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[quote author=vicdom post=114994169][/quote]You are just spewing nonsense, with useless statics that has no basis.

Tinubu develop and funded ACN to become party with governors, what party did Obi develop, the obi that was movie from APGA to PDP to labour?

It is unfortunate that this was push to the front page, this forum has really gone to the dogs.

franchasofficia:
All my permutations are also based on at least 80% free and fair election devoid of massive rigging by incumbent federal and state governments.



We are hoping INEC will try harder to remain neutral.

Election will be relatively free and fair.

But, I don't see him winning any state aside Anambra.

RexTramadol1:
Lmao…..


People overestimate this Obi too much

Atiku is also overestimating himself.

Amotolongbo:
How is it different from the 2015, 2011, 2007, 2003 and 199 presidential election results for PDP in the South East ?
Did Obi contest in those elections before 2019?

That time sef, the margin was so WIDE

vicdom:
Obasanjo still win his southern region even though he lost in sw. Ss and se votes were enough to upturn the votes he lost in sw. So with ss and se votes, he was able to secure majority of votes in the southern region. So in all, Obj first term, because there was no northener in the ballot, he won both south and north.

The north unlike the south has no sub blocks. North Hausa language is the lingua franca of the north unlike the south. Common tongue has helped the north to present a common front in all elections.

franchasofficia:
lol, the op is right. Atiku have little or no political influence when competing with strong opponents. Tinubu without Lagos treasury to throw about is a rejected politician outside Yoruba land.



In 2023, the whole North will not vote for Tinubu when two of their own sons; Atiku Abubakar and Kwankwaso are on ballot and thats if Kwankwaso doesn't step down for Tinubu or Atiku. Anybody that believes the whole North will vote Tinubu leaving Atiku and Kwankwaso because Tinubu picked a Northern Muslim VP is deluding, Lolz.





If Kwankwaso doesn't step down before the election day, what will happen is this:

Kwankwaso will win Kano, Tinubu will come second, Atiku 3rd, Obi 4th.

At the end, Tinubu will win NW with very insignificant votes, Atiku will come second, Kwankwaso 3rd, Obi 4th.


Atiku will win NE with very small margin, Tinubu will come second, Kwankwaso will come 3rd, Obi 4th.


Obi will win Northcentral, Atiku will come second, Tinubu 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.



Obi will win Southeast with very large margin, Atiku will come 2nd, Tinubu 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Obi will sin Southsouth, Atiku will come 2nd, Tinubu will come 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Tinubu will win Southwest, Obi will come second, Atiku 3rd, Sowore 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Now do the maths and know the likely winner if it doesn't enter runoff

Trash and balderdash. Emotional analyst. Let obi come and win north Central let's see.

kenedy175:
The fear of Peter Obi is the beginning of wisdom. APC and PDP know this, that's why they keep fighting tooth and nail to bring him down.

But the force behind Obi is stronger than what he could imagine

Parachoko:
Atiku is also overestimating himself.

Atiku is banking on Northern Votes, since Buhari is not contestit, he stand a better chance.

Carmal90:
That time sef, the margin was so WIDE

Don’t mind the buffoons who think Nigerian election started in 2019.

Mirriamvic:
Atiku doesn't lie.
Besides, his Twitter account is being managed by probably a manager from South.

Can you swear that Atiku don't lie?....

Carmal90:
North Central?

Kwara,
Benue,
Plateau,
Kogi,
Niger,
Nassarawa?

North Central?

Kwara, APC will win, PDP 2nd
Benue, LP will win, PDP 2nd
Plateau, LP will win, PDP 2nd
Kogi, APC will win, PDP 2nd
Niger, PDP will win, LP 2nd
Nassarawa? LP will win, PDP 2nd

PaChukwudi44:
Tinubu is not strong outside his SW region.Even in his SW region he is struggling

This sore loser!

February is here, Tinubu will win Borno and Yobe next year in Atiku region, you will see

Totilopussylick:
Both him and Tinubu will eventually lose to labour party in the next presidential elections in Nigeria

You people's delusion is getting out of hand.

Not even one bit of sign has shown that LP will even come third.

Ekiti and Osun elections have shown that you don't even have as much following as you like to think.

By the time we count everyone supporting LP, it will be a surprise if they are more than 20,000 in the whole of Nigeria.

Carmal90:
2021 wasn't the first year soludo was contesting and he lost.
He backed Oseloka in 2017 and lost as well, coming distant third.
Obi is not grounded politically, that is the fact.

So Oseloka is better than Obiano to you?? Obiano performed wonderfully well in his first term. so people will leave Obiano to vote for Oseloka?? 2023 is not far, you will understand that Obi is a strong force most especially in the east. maybe by then, I don't know what you will say.

franchasofficia:
North Central?

Kwara, APC will win, PDP 2nd
Benue, LP will win, PDP 2nd
Plateau, LP will win, PDP 2nd
Kogi, APC will win, PDP 2nd
Niger, PDP will win, LP 2nd
Nassarawa? LP will win, PDP 2nd

So LP will have more votes than APC in Niger? This deluded ibo people . Don't worry, February is here

Totilopussylick:
Both him and Tinubu will eventually lose to labour party in the next presidential elections in Nigeria

On social media you mean?

Dreamers

Totilopussylick:
Both him and Tinubu will eventually lose to labour party in the next presidential elections in Nigeria

Carmal90:
Atiku is banking on Northern Votes, since Buhari is not contestit, he stand a better chance.

That's why I said he is overestimating himself.

What did he got with the ACN when he contested? With or without Buhari contesting, Tinubu can not lose woefully to Atiku in the North. In fact, I still believe Tinubu might defeat him in the North.

Dreamers

Totilopussylick:
Both him and Tinubu will eventually lose to labour party in the next presidential elections in Nigeria

Don't know what you guys have foreseen?
Cus you guys talk rubbish

Indispensable85:
You must have failed mathematics in high school. How's 50k votes 1% of the total votes cast? Lol......
But I agree with you that Atiku is not as strong in the north as people are presuming.

Buhari got 30k plus.it was Enugu he got 50k

Jack500:
Trash and balderdash. Emotional analyst. Let obi come and win north Central let's see.

Be realistic. I know u guys are only banking on rigging as your sure bet for APC to win.


If you analyze the situation of Nigeria, follow up trends of events and the mindset of Nigerians currently, APC can only win NW cos of Buhari, SW cos of Tinubu being a Yoruba and then get good vote in NE cos of Boko Haram Shettima and Northern Muslim fanatical reasoning towards issues of life.



If INEC can deliver 80% free and fair election in 2023, APC will either come 2nd or 3rd.


But because of rigging and the incumbency power, APC will not be that easy to defeat in 2023, but to win will most likely not be a reality for APC. The election will most likely enter runoff if Kwankwaso doesn't step down

Carmal90:
Atiku is banking on Northern Votes, since Buhari is not contestit, he stand a better chance.

Exactly why tinubu insisted on a Muslim VP from the North.
LP and obi are inconsequential

There is something people are not taking into consideration about Atiku. Dude is a feather weight politician who is only relying on looted funds to remain relevant.

Atiku does not have any demographic base he can rely on, unlike other heavyweight politicians, and I will explain:

1. Atiku is from a micro-minority ethnic group; unlike the general belief that Atiku is Fulani, he is not and Northern feudal system that reverence Fulanis know that fact, and that's why they hardly vote for him.

2. Atiku is a moderate Muslim; moderate Muslims don't get massive support in the North. Except Aminu Kano during the years after independence, no other moderate Muslim has enjoyed mass appeal to them. That was Atiku hurriedly deleted his message that earlier condemned the killing of Deborah. He immediately realized that Northern Muslims like fanatical muslim leaders and thus immediately reversed himself.

3. Aside Bat, majority of Nigerians see Atiku as one of the most corrupt politician today. What gave him credibility during the last election was Obi his Vice.

These factors are the reasons why Atiku has been finding it difficult to win as president and it's likely to torpedo his attempt once again in 2023.

If Atiku was Hausa or Fulani from NW, he would have succeeded with ease. For someone that has been a major contestant since 1993, about 3 decades now, it is unbelievable that he has remained a runner up. How many people even know that Atiku stepped down for Abiola in SDP? Labour Party's vice Presidential candidate was still a youth corper then!

Now that Buhari is not on the ballot, Atiku would naturally have had an easy ride to Aso rock but those structural defects I mentioned is why he is likely to fail again. Unfortunately for Atiku, Obi his backbone then is now his opponent on the ballot and has pulled majority of voters that would have gone to Atiku.

Jack500:
This sore loser!

February is here, Tinubu will win Borno and Yobe next year in Atiku region, you will see

Shut up!! say Shettima will win and not Tinubu. Why didn't Tinubu contest with his ACN party all these while since he has been nursing presidential ambition?? Because he knows he's not a force at all. He only gave Atiku and Ribadu ticket at some point, why didn't he contest?? he wants to ride on Buhari's structure to win

pacesetting:
Atiku is not really a political strategist. Otherwise he would have done everything possible to pull Obi to his side. He didn't event try.

He is even making matters worse with the way he has treated Wike. Apart from Lagos, Rivers has the highest number of voters in the entire South.

Atiku is only relevant because of his money. That's the only reason why he keeps winning primaries.

Same thing i have been saying.. even if Obi doesn't win(which i don't pray for), Atiku is definitely not winning. i am yet to know where Atiku will get his block votes from. Allowing Obi to leave was wrong.. but i know Wike,Ugwuanyi(Enugu) and other Wike supporters forced Obi out of PDP to give Wike edge in the Presidential primaries and VP slot.. now everything don backfire. Na Atiku go come suffer d lose. I am yet to know d region where Atiku will get his major votes from.

Acidosis:
This just shows that Northern Muslims are truly extremists and their extremism is kinda disgusting and barbaric.

How can Muslims in Adamawa vote Buhari in 2019 against Atiku? This is not about Atiku's personality or what he failed to do. Nigeria was already a mess in 2019.

The truth is if Buhari decides to come back again, he'll still win in the north. That's how barbaric and ediotic some of them are.

That is why tinubu and kwankwaso will win the north

Acidosis:
You can simply look up voting patterns in Christian and Muslim populated areas. I won't be surprised if Atiku won the majority votes in Southern Kaduna too.

He did.atiku won four states in the north which are plateau,benue and taraba which are christian dominated.in Adamawa,Christians made him win.he failed woefully in Muslim areas

Parachoko:
That's why I said he is overestimating himself.

What did he got with the ACN when he contested? With or without Buhari contesting, Tinubu can not lose woefully to Atiku in the North. In fact, I still believe Tinubu might defeat him in the North.

Buhari contested In 2007 sha, and ACN wasn't a national party.

snapshot:
When Atiku said Obi's exit from PDP will not affect the fortunes of the party in 2023,I knew that Atiku has lost touch with current reality.

Let us see how he will get the kind of votes he got in South East and south south in 2019.

The votes belonged to PDP, and not because Obi was running mate.

In 2007, Ojukwu was on the ballot, and yet he was beaten in the Southeast by Yar'Adua, a Northern Muslim.

Obi is not even popular outside Anambra state.

Carmal90:
Election will be relatively free and fair.

But, I don't see him winning any state aside Anambra.

Now I see that you are a kid, sorry i made mistake replying a minor, my bad

vicdom:
So Oseloka is better than Obiano to you?? Obiano performed wonderfully well in his first term. so people will leave Obiano to vote for Oseloka?? 2023 is not far, you will understand that Obi is a strong force most especially in the east. maybe by then, I don't know what you will say.

You shouldn't bother, because I strongly believe he will struggle to win Anambra state, that is if it possible sef

franchasofficia:
lol, the op is right. Atiku have little or no political influence when competing with strong opponents. Tinubu without Lagos treasury to throw about is a rejected politician outside Yoruba land.



In 2023, the whole North will not vote for Tinubu when two of their own sons; Atiku Abubakar and Kwankwaso are on ballot and thats if Kwankwaso doesn't step down for Tinubu or Atiku. Anybody that believes the whole North will vote Tinubu leaving Atiku and Kwankwaso because Tinubu picked a Northern Muslim VP is deluding, Lolz.





If Kwankwaso doesn't step down before the election day, what will happen is this:

Kwankwaso will win Kano, Tinubu will come second, Atiku 3rd, Obi 4th.

At the end, Tinubu will win NW with very insignificant votes, Atiku will come second, Kwankwaso 3rd, Obi 4th.


Atiku will win NE with very small margin, Tinubu will come second, Kwankwaso will come 3rd, Obi 4th.


Obi will win Northcentral, Atiku will come second, Tinubu 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.



Obi will win Southeast with very large margin, Atiku will come 2nd, Tinubu 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Obi will sin Southsouth, Atiku will come 2nd, Tinubu will come 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Tinubu will win Southwest, Obi will come second, Atiku 3rd, Sowore 3rd, Kwankwaso 4th.


Now do the maths and know the likely winner if it doesn't enter runoff

I like this but tinubu will win nc or come a close second.same thing in ss