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Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Perfectman91: 9:27am On Jul 24, 2022
Hello fam, I'm aware that taking agbo can harm the kidney and cause kidney problems & failure but can this be same about taking bitters?

Over to the docs in the house please

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nigeriafirstlad(m): 9:35am On Jul 24, 2022
Perfectman91:
Hello fam, I'm aware that taking agbo can harm the kidney and cause kidney problems & failure but can this be same about taking bitters?

Over to the docs in the house please

Bitters and agbo are both the same.
Just packaging

Bitters and Agbo are both kidney destroyer. Do not be deceived by big brand companies and business merchants, using portable and their likes to promote toxic and harmful substances.
Giving false impressions on how it boost performance in bed.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Perfectman91: 9:38am On Jul 24, 2022
Nigeriafirstlad:


Bitters and agbo are both the same.
Just packaging

Just knowing this o, I need to drop down on taking bitters then
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by sseunth(m): 9:45am On Jul 24, 2022
Perfectman91:
Hello fam, I'm aware that taking agbo can harm the kidney and cause kidney problems & failure but can this be same about taking bitters?

Over to the docs in the house please

They only cause kidney failure if you abuse them.

Before civilization, agbo was used for treatment.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Kenpaly(m): 10:02am On Jul 24, 2022
Pls doctors in the house what about white hot.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by HiideaConsole(m): 10:37am On Jul 24, 2022
Perfectman91:
Hello fam, I'm aware that taking agbo can harm the kidney and cause kidney problems & failure but can this be same about taking bitters?

Over to the docs in the house please

Uncontrolled use over time is what affects the kidney
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by vastolord4(m): 10:42am On Jul 24, 2022
HiideaConsole:


Uncontrolled use over time is what affects the kidney

Agbo that is natural cause kidney failure? But pills that contains added preservatives and lab products are better of? You gat to be kidding me bro.. agbo all the way o

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by HiideaConsole(m): 11:10am On Jul 24, 2022
vastolord4:


Agbo that is natural cause kidney failure? But pills that contains added preservatives and lab products are better of? You gat to be kidding me bro.. agbo all the way o

C'mon, why are you talking like this?? Shey you no go school nih

Agbo is in uncontrolled amounts, that is, in excessive amounts which overtime has effects on your kidneys because they are the ones charged with ultrafiltration and those stuffs

Drugs on the other hand which you should know are actually most times gotten from these natural herbs are in the exact controlled amount required for the ailment you have to be cured. Before a drug is released, there are tests to know the exact amount needed for the ailments

Na why dem go tell you not to abuse drugs or misuse them because everything is already regulated

But someone like you no go wan hear, you go talk say you smart pass scientists? Haba

No one is saying you shouldn't use agbo but uncontrolled use overtime actually affects your kidneys... Just do a little search on Google

Peace

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nobody: 11:16am On Jul 24, 2022
Nigeriafirstlad:


Bitters and agbo are both the same.
Just packaging
No they're not the same. Certain bitters are regulated and approved for consumption by the legit regulatory bodies hence they're definitely not the same with agbo that anyone can cut any tree wood and soak in ethanol then begin dey sell. Abeg bitters pass bitters. Know what u are buying undecided
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by vastolord4(m): 11:19am On Jul 24, 2022
HiideaConsole:


C'mon, why are you talking like this?? Shey you no go school nih

Agbo is in uncontrolled amounts, that is, in excessive amounts which overtime has effects on your kidneys because they are the ones charged with ultrafiltration and those stuffs

Drugs on the other hand which you should know are actually most times gotten from these natural herbs are in the exact controlled amount required for the ailment you have to be cured. Before a drug is released, there are tests to know the exact amount needed for the ailments

Na why dem go tell you not to abuse drugs or misuse them because everything is already regulated

But someone like you no go wan hear, you go talk say you smart pass scientists? Haba

No one is saying you shouldn't use agbo but uncontrolled use overtime actually affects your kidneys... Just do a little search on Google

Peace

Asides menial jobs and healthy natural meals. I'm sure some 4 generations before you lived to see Thier great grand kids right? Can that be said for the generation before you and so applies to most parts of west Africa.. you comprehend the afore statement.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by SenecaTheYonger: 11:32am On Jul 24, 2022
Perfectman91:


Just knowing this o, I need to drop down on taking bitters then

How often do you take it?
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by SenecaTheYonger: 11:39am On Jul 24, 2022
HiideaConsole:


C'mon, why are you talking like this?? Shey you no go school nih

Agbo is in uncontrolled amounts, that is, in excessive amounts which overtime has effects on your kidneys because they are the ones charged with ultrafiltration and those stuffs

Drugs on the other hand which you should know are actually most times gotten from these natural herbs are in the exact controlled amount required for the ailment you have to be cured. Before a drug is released, there are tests to know the exact amount needed for the ailments

Na why dem go tell you not to abuse drugs or misuse them because everything is already regulated

But someone like you no go wan hear, you go talk say you smart pass scientists? Haba

No one is saying you shouldn't use agbo but uncontrolled use overtime actually affects your kidneys... Just do a little search on Google

Peace

Kidney failure is caused by the APOL 1 gene which we evolved with to combat the effect of sleeping sickness. Because if you think about it, when last you see someone with that disease? Our body has evolved to tackle it but the gene that tackles it also destroys the kidney and it’s called APOL1. Some have one alleles of it, some have two alleles, and they’re more at risk. So a healthy lifestyle is adviced. I believe you could test for the gene to know if you’re at risk or not.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by shogotermies(m): 11:40am On Jul 24, 2022
Modern and traditional drugs has tendencies to destroy your kidney.
But the abuse of traditional drugs is the main reason doctors are against it.
Those boys in the garage taking paraga every now and then, are at the risk of kidney failure for two reasons.
1. The excess intake of 40% alcoholic content.
2. Excess intake of the herbs, will allow the body to create a resistance against the herb action

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by HiideaConsole(m): 11:41am On Jul 24, 2022
SenecaTheYonger:


Kidney failure is caused by the APOL 1 gene which we evolved with to combat the effect of sleeping sickness. Because if you think about it, when last you see someone with that disease? Our body has evolved to tackle it but the gene that tackles it also destroys the kidney and it’s called APOL1. Some have one alleles of it, some have two alleles, and they’re more at risk. So a healthy lifestyle is advices.

Person wey sabi
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Perfectman91: 12:18pm On Jul 24, 2022
SenecaTheYonger:


How often do you take it?

Like everyday, pet bottle
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by shogotermies(m): 12:34pm On Jul 24, 2022
Excess use of drugs either modern or traditional can cause organ damage.
I'm into herbal medicine, and the truth is there is dosage for all tincture, decoction or tea. E.G you have infection and use herbal tea once a day for two weeks and after the cure, you use the tea once or twice per week to prevent it. This example is a good way of using herbal drugs.
But you see those guys in the garage taking paraga,they are at high risk of kidney failure. Why? because a lot of them takes more than the required dosage. And they have more risks due to these reasons.;
1. Excess intake of an alcoholic content greater than 33%
2. The alcoholic content are not even 90% edible alcohol, they are usually mixed with methanol.
3. Excess intake of the herbal content.
[b][/b] the excess intake of herbal content or modern drugs will;
1. Make your body build a resistance towards the herb or drug
2. Over work your liver and kidney
3. Alter physiological function.

My advice on bitters, take it 3 to 4 times per week.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nigeriafirstlad(m): 12:56pm On Jul 24, 2022
killmods:

No they're not the same. Certain bitters are regulated and approved for consumption by the legit regulatory bodies hence they're definitely not the same with agbo that anyone can cut any tree wood and soak in ethanol then begin dey sell. Abeg bitters pass bitters. Know what u are buying undecided



My lecturer always use to say that "half knowledge is more dangerous than zero knowledge"
Zero knowledge you say nothing, contribute nothing and nobody is at risk.

When you have half knowledge you are always eager to contribute in a conversation, you are eager to recommend, give advice not minding or even knowing that your suggestions can lead to collateral damage.

You are very conversant how agbo is produced but have no clue how bitters is produced.
Soaking of roots and herbs in ethanol is an old practice in Africa and it has been handed over from generation to generation, visit many villages today you will see men and women of 80 to 100years using roots and herbs (Agbo) to keep body and soul together.
Meaning the health implication is minimal.

Factory production of bitters is still very new to us and many of us have not bother to do a research on the production process in various factories across the country.

Bitters are made from the chemical bleaching of herbs to extract the flavour, distilled and mix with high concentration of ethanol, then packaged to look more like a wine.

The health hazards is still unknown because there is no institution or research facility working on it.
SON and NAFDAC are only interested in the monitary aspect of registration and licence.

U can take this as project, do research and save lives.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nobody: 1:07pm On Jul 24, 2022
Nigeriafirstlad:




My lecturer always use to say that "half knowledge is more dangerous than zero knowledge"
Zero knowledge you say nothing, contribute nothing and nobody is at risk.

When you have half knowledge you are always eager to contribute in a conversation, you are eager to recommend, give advice not minding or even knowing that your suggestions can lead to collateral damage.

You are very conversant how agbo is produced but have no clue how bitters is produced.
Soaking of roots and herbs in ethanol is an old practice in Africa and it has been handed over from generation to generation, visit many villages today you will see men and women of 80 to 100years using roots and herbs (Agbo) to keep body and soul together.
Meaning the health implication is minimal.

Factory production of bitters is still very new to us and many of us have not bother to do a research on the production process in various factories across the country.

Bitters are made from the chemical bleaching of herbs to extract the flavour, distilled and mix with high concentration of ethanol, then packaged to look more like a wine.

The health hazards is still unknown because there is no institution or research facility working on it.
SON and NAFDAC are only interested in the monitory aspect of registration and licence.

U can take this as project, do research and save lives.
I am not implying all agbo are dangerous to health.. of course not But the it's quite on a high side since it's not regulated. There are more fake herbalist without any real knowledge of the old traditions than the regulatory bodies being interested in monetary gains. Mr full knowledge the epistle is uneseccary. Why don't u elaborate on the research u have done over the years. I still stand on agbo and real bitters not being the same.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nigeriafirstlad(m): 1:12pm On Jul 24, 2022
killmods:

I am not implying all agbo are dangerous to health.. of course not But the it's quite on a high side since it's not regulated. There are more fake herbalist without any real knowledge of the old traditions than the regulatory bodies being interested in monetary gains. Mr full knowledge the epistle is uneseccary. Why don't u elaborate on the research u have done over the years. I still stand on agbo and real bitters not being the same.

I will recommend Agbo anytime anyday......

Happy Sunday.
We non dey quarrel
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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jul 24, 2022
Nigeriafirstlad:


I will recommend Agbo anytime anyday......

Happy Sunday.
We non dey quarrel
grin grin grin grin grin grin
Qurrel ke? I take agbo but not from everywhere and i also don't just drink any bitters too. Enjoy ur Sunday wink
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Stone03: 1:40pm On Jul 24, 2022
HiideaConsole:


C'mon, why are you talking like this?? Shey you no go school nih

Agbo is in uncontrolled amounts, that is, in excessive amounts which overtime has effects on your kidneys because they are the ones charged with ultrafiltration and those stuffs

Drugs on the other hand which you should know are actually most times gotten from these natural herbs are in the exact controlled amount required for the ailment you have to be cured. Before a drug is released, there are tests to know the exact amount needed for the ailments

Na why dem go tell you not to abuse drugs or misuse them because everything is already regulated

But someone like you no go wan hear, you go talk say you smart pass scientists? Haba

No one is saying you shouldn't use agbo but uncontrolled use overtime actually affects your kidneys... Just do a little search on Google

Peace


Agbo is herbs, made of plants. I don't think that excessive intake of it is that harmful owing to the fact that plant food dissolves and is quickly absorbed by human body system. Unlike chemical/synthetic drugs.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by 4ward4: 1:51pm On Jul 24, 2022
vastolord4:


Agbo that is natural cause kidney failure? But pills that contains added preservatives and lab products are better of? You gat to be kidding me bro.. agbo all the way o

Pills are measured in a concentrated form. If you pick up a drug label you will see the entire concentration of ever Single composition used in making such drugs.
Agbo on the other hand isn't proper studied and it's composition accurately combined.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by HiideaConsole(m): 2:00pm On Jul 24, 2022
Stone03:



Agbo is herbs, made of plants. I don't think that excessive intake of it is that harmful owing to the fact that plant food dissolves and is quickly absorbed by human body system. Unlike chemical/synthetic drugs.

Except the fact that the plants (or leaves) themselves contain a LOT of different chemicals

Plus some of the drugs you talk about were manufactured from extracts from medicinal herbs themselves and passed through different lab tests to be able to be used to fight specific diseases

Compared to when you take agbo which contains many different chemicals to fight just one ailment, plus the fact that there are no standardized regulations for these agbo which could mean taking in excessive amounts which could be harmful, do you get?

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Alphamale101(m): 2:03pm On Jul 24, 2022
shogotermies:
Excess use of drugs either modern or traditional can cause organ damage.

My advice on bitters, take it 3 to 4 times per week.

So someone like me that usually take at most 2 pet size bottle tho not steady Sha. Sometimes might go weeks without taking bitters. I would like to give an Instance of how I do consume. Today I might consume a pet size, likewise tomorrow then the following day might consume 2 pet size. And so on it doesn't have pattern but I don't excide 2 pet size in a day

So I'm I at risk
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by simple250: 2:39pm On Jul 24, 2022
drink responsibly and nothing will happen to your kidney....

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by shogotermies(m): 2:47pm On Jul 24, 2022
Alphamale101:


So someone like me that usually take at most 2 pet size bottle tho not steady Sha. Sometimes might go weeks without taking bitters. I would like to give an Instance of how I do consume. Today I might consume a pet size, likewise tomorrow then the following day might consume 2 pet size. And so on it doesn't have pattern but I don't excide 2 pet size in a day

So I'm I at risk

I believe one pet size bottle is enough, and also it doesn't have to be everyday.
Moreover, if you consume sugar so much then, 2 to 3 times is enough per week.
If not your body will build resistance towards it and what you aim to achieve won't work anymore.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by shogotermies(m): 2:58pm On Jul 24, 2022
Stone03:



Agbo is herbs, made of plants. I don't think that excessive intake of it is that harmful owing to the fact that plant food dissolves and is quickly absorbed by human body system. Unlike chemical/synthetic drugs.

Agbo is herbs, yes!
But have you forgotten some plants are toxic, that is to tell you plants can be powerful too.
Herbal medicine is a collection of multiple pharmacophore coming together to fight an ailment or more than on ailment. The fact they are effective is as a result of these active sites, but there is a dominating pharmacophore or active site which is the backbone in that medicine.
The issue now is, because herbal medicine is not yet analyzed, nobody knows how much of the active site you need to get cured. So when you use excess of that agbo, bitters or tea, in theory you are using an excess of digoxin, cocaine, arthermeter, paracetamol, aspirin, these of which are from herbal sources.
Agbo is drug dont abuse it.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Tboymessiah(m): 3:02pm On Jul 24, 2022
shogotermies:
Modern and traditional drugs has tendencies to destroy your kidney.
But the abuse of traditional drugs is the main reason doctors are against it.
Those boys in the garage taking paraga every now and then, are at the risk of kidney failure for two reasons.
1. The excess intake of 40% alcoholic content.
2. Excess intake of the herbs, will allow the body to create a resistance against the herb action

NasoLifeBe!!!

More anointing oil of wisdom for you
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by ednut1(m): 4:12pm On Jul 24, 2022
Abuse of drugs like pracetamol and others cause kidney failure too. Agbo does not have standardized dosage. Hence it can border line on abuse

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by Stone03: 4:32pm On Jul 24, 2022
HiideaConsole:


Except the fact that the plants (or leaves) themselves contain a LOT of different chemicals

Plus some of the drugs you talk about were manufactured from extracts from medicinal herbs themselves and passed through different lab tests to be able to be used to fight specific diseases

Compared to when you take agbo which contains many different chemicals to fight just one ailment, plus the fact that there are no standardized regulations for these agbo which could mean taking in excessive amounts which could be harmful, do you get?


As I was made to understand by a phyto scientist. The chemicals contained in agbo are biologically friendly to human systems as long as it is not a poisonous plant. Excessive intake of it can easily be dissolved into our body and flushed out through the body waste passages, unlike inorganic chemicals that deposits in the body and doesn't mix up because of the artificial nature of it compositions.

Though I am still researching on this and still stands to be corrected.

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Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by silibaba: 5:06pm On Jul 24, 2022
Nigeriafirstlad:


Bitters and agbo are both the same.
Just packaging
not true bae.
Re: Does Taking Bitters Cause Kidney failure? by jomarick(m): 5:51pm On Jul 24, 2022
I once heard of a man who developed kidney failure and died after consuming agbo. This is real. Its not made up and not a story.

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