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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by keeper303: 9:05pm On Jul 23, 2022
chauder:
This is one that FG debt servicing is more than revenue, Gurus please what's the faith of our monies in FG TBills and Bond. Is there a possibility of default? or delayed payback?

Yes. There is possibility of default but I seriously pray against it.�
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by JaySterling: 9:24pm On Jul 23, 2022
Which investment would yield better for the sum of 1M

Treasury bills or fixed deposit ?

Please advise

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Munamoqel: 9:55pm On Jul 23, 2022
Tranquility2345:


See this one dey use style to market. You must think we are all fools here angry
BBN season 7 is here ! the voting centre rackets start !. more money to very lazy youths work don dey tongue

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by rmx: 10:17pm On Jul 23, 2022
jedisco:
The cycle of devaluation has become quite typical.

Last 2 weeks I got an email from my bank updating me on some new restrictions on PTA/BTA- this is usually the first sign and so I eased off the naira...

Unsurprisingly, after a week, the rates started pushing up... typical!

CBN threatening folks shows they're panicking. In the past, they'd have blamed crypt0 traders for their ineptitude. Also, some of the news filtering thru about the economy (debt servicing more than revenue) doesn't inspire confidence.

Thirdly, CBN rapidly increasing interest rates for the first time in years looks like they've sensed rapid inflation is beckoning.

I've always held that with rapid devaluation, around the 700-750 mark lies the point where the average Nigerian losses hope in the naira. This is usually where things begin to spiral out. If the gallop we saw this week continues into next, then that number is not far away.

What's worse is the inflation that follows any major devaluation. There's usually a 2-3 month lag for this. Inflation currently at 19% would easily reach 25-30% should the exchange rate reach 700. When handling a building project I usually like to be in usd preceeding this kind of devaluation and buy items in naira once things stabilise. If caught in naira, I buy up items quite quick cos prices would soar in the coming months..

Finally, over the last decade and half, the naira has averagely lost 10- 15% of its value against the usd every year (i.e 50% is lost every 6 years). This year (just like 2015) was going to be tough mainly due to the general elections and the money politics we play which is sadly now done in usd. All said, it's my duty to protect my wealth. Our leaders (and populace) do not care.

Well said , I have come to adapt very well to periods like this since I live in nigeria . The only thing I love better than holding dollars in times like this , is holding stocks of goods I deal in . Very interesting times , the pain won’t stop anytime soon , besides there is world wide inflation

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by StrafordSTONES(m): 10:25pm On Jul 23, 2022
jedisco:


Bonds (moreso locally denominated) are not my forte



Hello Jedisco,

Please have you any idea if there is an option for locked staking on Binance...I want to lock away my busd for a long time without being able to break or have access to it until expiration of the lock period.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Olaide1295: 10:56pm On Jul 23, 2022
StrafordSTONES:




Hello Jedisco,

Please have you any idea if there is an option for locked staking on Binance...I want to lock away my busd for a long time without being able to break or have access to it until expiration of the lock period.

Binance gives 10% rate up to $4000.(Split 2k in BUSD and 2k in USDT flexible savings). Above that and the return rates are terrible.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 11:32pm On Jul 23, 2022
JaySterling:
Which investment would yield better for the sum of 50M

Treasury bills or fixed deposit ?

Please advise

Treasury bill but MMF will even be better

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by JaySterling: 12:03am On Jul 24, 2022
emmasoft:


Treasury bill but MMF will even be better
Please which MMF has the highest interest rate as at today

And what’s the rate per annum. I know it fluctuates, but what’s the highest as at today?

Thanks boss

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 12:04pm On Jul 24, 2022
chauder:
This is one that FG debt servicing is more than revenue, Gurus please what's the faith of our monies in FG TBills and Bond. Is there a possibility of default? or delayed payback?

Not a guru... I don't see an issue of default with TBs and bonds. They're denomited in local currency and the government would print money to pay up just as they've always done.

Most of the money used in settling TBs in the past was not from generated revenue. Reason why we should have questioned the high rates despite the instruments being oversubscribed. The effect of such reckless money printing is what we're enjoying now.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 12:12pm On Jul 24, 2022
rmx:


Well said , I have come to adapt very well to periods like this since I live in nigeria . The only thing I love better than holding dollars in times like this , is holding stocks of goods I deal in . Very interesting times , the pain won’t stop anytime soon , besides there is world wide inflation

Numerous knee-jerk moves by the cbn in quick succession played a good part in this jump. Let me see where the rate stabilises but for an economy heavily dependent on imports, you could expect goods to begin their rise from next month.

In such times, if opting to hold goods, I prefer to buying items whose price is directly correlated with the usd rate. The fact is one doesn't make profit with such moves, all one achieves is protecting their purchasing power.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 12:19pm On Jul 24, 2022
StrafordSTONES:


Hello Jedisco,

Please have you any idea if there is an option for locked staking on Binanz...I want to lock away my busd for a long time without being able to break or have access to it until expiration of the lock period.

There's option of lock staking.

Usdc and busd have the most trust in the market as they're properly backed by cash/cash equivalents and properly audited.

The recent drawdown in crypt0 has caused somewhat of a contagion that has affected some major players. Reason I say this is cos with locked staking, the security of your coins is dependent on the platform (Binanz here). It could be a single point of failure.

If investing good sums, it might be worth staking it across platforms.
Also, other forex denominated instruments are a good bet..e g foreign bonds.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by StrafordSTONES(m): 1:14pm On Jul 24, 2022
Olaide1295:


Binance gives 10% rate up to $4000.(Split 2k in BUSD and 2k in USDT flexible savings). Above that and the return rates are terrible.



Okay...Thanks a bunch...will go with busd
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 3:46pm On Jul 24, 2022
How and where?
jedisco:



Also, other forex denominated instruments are a good bet..e g foreign bonds.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by StrafordSTONES(m): 9:14pm On Jul 24, 2022
jedisco:


There's option of lock staking.

Usdc and busd have the most trust in the market as they're properly backed by cash/cash equivalents and properly audited.

The recent drawdown in crypt0 has caused somewhat of a contagion that has affected some major players. Reason I say this is cos with locked staking, the security of your coins is dependent on the platform (Binanz here). It could be a single point of failure.

If investing good sums, it might be worth staking it across platforms.
Also, other forex denominated instruments are a good bet..e g foreign bonds.



Ok boss, I am already looking into it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Vote4ObiDatti: 7:24am On Jul 25, 2022
Rizin:


Supported.
I bought dolar at @570 in April this year at 8% per annum. Currently it goes for 640 as at this morning. Representing 12% increase in just 4months.
God help our country.

"God help our country" indeed, when you're also part of the problem. Nigerians will use naira to buy dollar and hoard it. Some will demand for dollar officially and sell it in the black market. All these are rent seeking activities that sabotage the economy.

Why not look for ways to earn dollar legitimately instead? If you want to hedge against inflation, you can buy lands.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AngelicBeing: 10:22am On Jul 25, 2022
Vote4ObiDatti:


"God help our country" indeed, when you're also part of the problem. Nigerians will use naira to buy dollar and hoard it. Some will demand for dollar officially and sell it in the black market. All these are rent seeking activities that sabotage the economy.

Why not look for ways to earn dollar legitimately instead? If you want to hedge against inflation, you can buy lands.
grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 4:56pm On Jul 25, 2022
Was expecting this on Friday 22 July but it dropped today. wink
skydiver01:
The 2026 FGN bond is due 22 July... I am now looking forward to it dropping on Friday wink

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 5:10pm On Jul 25, 2022
skydiver01:
Was expecting this on Friday 22 July but it dropped today. wink

Na una make naija broke, una no want politicians see money steal, congratulations snr man
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 6:37pm On Jul 25, 2022
grin
RayRay06677:


Na una make naija broke, una no want politicians see money steal, congratulations snr man
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 7:28pm On Jul 25, 2022
Baba, you don retire?
You do not seem to be into equities, looks like you prefer fixed income.
skydiver01:
Was expecting this on Friday 22 July but it dropped today. wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 9:42pm On Jul 25, 2022
No, I have not retired. I have equities too that provide diversification.
ojesymsym:
Baba, you don retire?
You do not seem to be into equities, looks like you prefer fixed income.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akerewe(m): 10:30am On Jul 26, 2022
Good day all my Oga dem dem,

Pls I need a personal experienced advice on gtbank salary advance.

If I borrow 70k from gtbank salary advance for 5 days and liquidate it with repayment, how much will my total repayment be for 5 days?

It's said to b a minimum of 30days with 29% interest rate but I just need it for 5days, will my 29% interest be calculate for 5days or am still going to pay for 30days duration if I repay it in 5days??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RESHARPENED: 10:40am On Jul 26, 2022
Akerewe:
Good day all my Oga dem dem,

Pls I need a personal experienced advice on gtbank salary advance.

If I borrow 70k from gtbank salary advance for 5 days and liquidate it with repayment, how much will my total repayment be for 5 days?

It's said to b a minimum of 30days with 29% interest rate but I just need it for 5days, will my 29% interest be calculate for 5days or am still going to pay for 30days duration if I repay it in 5days??


Your best bet is to reach out to GTB customer care.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Anatech(m): 12:36pm On Jul 26, 2022
Tobex4realTobex234:
Dollar limit on naira cards are now $20/month.
Virtual USD cards are being banned left and right.
PTA has been almost impossible to access from the banks.
Getting forex to pay for school fees has become increasingly difficult.

So, the dollar rate is not artificial, just wait for September admission Japa wave to U.K and January admission wave to U.S, if CBN doesn't provide forex for these needs, the scarcity of dollar would push it to 650 by 2023.

There are still a couple of companies that operate virtual dollar cards, please read this article to find them

https://www.anatech.com.ng/best-virtual-dollar-cards-in-nigeria/

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tobex4realTobex234(m): 5:51pm On Jul 26, 2022
1 USD = 670 shocked

Every month I send money home, I've had to exchange less and less dollar equivalent. Na to go find naira loan like this grin grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 7:39pm On Jul 26, 2022
Vote4ObiDatti:


"God help our country" indeed, when you're also part of the problem. Nigerians will use naira to buy dollar and hoard it. Some will demand for dollar officially and sell it in the black market. All these are rent seeking activities that sabotage the economy.

Why not look for ways to earn dollar legitimately instead? If you want to hedge against inflation, you can buy lands.

The kneejerk reaction by consumers who are speculating is not the reason we're here. Rather what they're doing is a consequence of past macro events.

When CBN was rapidly issuing short-term TBs at rates well over 10%, did we bother to ask how the government will generate revenue to pay back? We all knew the revenue of the government was in decline and the only way they'd pay back was to print more naira yet we kept quiet and enjoyed the largesse.

When DMO and MOF kept issuing eurobonds at rates of close to 10% and coming back to boast that their oversubscription means there is confidence in the market, what did we say? We said the professionals know better. Same forex that foreign governments borrow at negative rates.

Where was CBN when Emefiele was toying with the presidential race?
Where was CBN when dollars were bring distributed in the name of primaries?

Blaming the masses is similar to blaming the victims of the train attack for being kidnapped. Let everyone protect their wealth as they see fit so long they are not committing a crime.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 7:42pm On Jul 26, 2022
ojesymsym:
How and where?

Not very conversant with the process but I know some local fund managers do offer FGs eurobond. Some also offer usd denominated bonds.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by BECALMBECALM(m): 6:29am On Jul 27, 2022
jedisco:


The kneejerk reaction by consumers who are speculating is not the reason we're here. Rather what they're doing is a consequence of past macro events.

When CBN was rapidly issuing short-term TBs at rates well over 10%, did we bother to ask how the government will generate revenue to pay back? We all knew the revenue of the government was in decline and the only way they'd pay back was to print more naira yet we kept quiet and enjoyed the largesse.

When DMO and MOF kept issuing eurobonds at rates of close to 10% and coming back to boast that their oversubscription means there is confidence in the market, what did we say? We said the professionals know better. Same forex that foreign governments borrow at negative rates.

Where was CBN when Emefiele was toying with the presidential race?
Where was CBN when dollars were bring distributed in the name of primaries?

Blaming the masses is similar to blaming the victims of the train attack for being kidnapped. Let everyone protect their wealth as they see fit so long they are not committing a crime.
My brother don't mind that guy. He wants me to loose my hard earned money because
of some animals in power.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ibechris(m): 10:44am On Jul 27, 2022
JaySterling:
Please which MMF has the highest interest rate as at today

And what’s the rate per annum. I know it fluctuates, but what’s the highest as at today?

Thanks boss


As at today,ARM mmf is 7.52%.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Acidosis(m): 11:30am On Jul 27, 2022
Tobex4realTobex234:
1 USD = 670 shocked

Every month I send money home, I've had to exchange less and less dollar equivalent. Na to go find naira loan like this grin grin

One of the easiest ways to get rich this period is to take a long-term loan with fixed interest rate.

It's just sad that Nigerians don't have access to mortgage, long-term car loans, and the likes. And unfortunately, many motivational speakers have demonized loan taking, so even when people have access to this type of loan, they avoid it out of ignorance and false teachings.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by XiaoLi: 1:33pm On Jul 27, 2022
Haha..she might have travelled to Delta state to eat free chicken na, someone on this forum invited her to Delta state to eat chicken which she humbly accepted since no bbn to do some voting racketeering, remember?? Laff wan scatter me grin grin grin grin grin
Munamoqel:
BBN season 7 is here ! the voting centre racketeering start !. more money to very lazy youths work don dey tongue

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by iamrichiefola(m): 2:05pm On Jul 27, 2022
I just check my Stanbic IBTC Equity Fund (after a long time of not checking) only to find out that there have been losses. I checked just now and noticed more loss.

Would you advise I pull out my money or just watch it for some time?

[b][/b]PS: More than half of the interest accrued over time is gone

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