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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Kingpin1000: 3:37pm On Aug 05, 2022
MT:


Sadly, Taiwan is not China. China is communist, Taiwan is democratic. Taiwan collects its own tax, votes for its own president, has its own passport, has its own military. It is entirely self ruled.

No one can dictate to the US. Pelosi dared China and there was absolutely nothing they did about it apart from shooting missiles into Taiwan water. Such a waste
You need to make more research about Taiwan when Moa CCP took over china the events that followed.
Do you think the US would have done otherwise had the scenario been reversed?
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by KingAzubuike(f): 3:37pm On Aug 05, 2022
Enddy50ty:
China needs America more than America needs China
China has been self sufficient for several decades. Lol you saying they need America more is dumb.

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by emmyileri(m): 3:38pm On Aug 05, 2022
TechtraGadgets:


What stupid freedom? Taiwan is and has always been a part of China. No country in the world, including the US, recognises Taiwan as an independent country.

The US suddenly has interest in a sovereign Taiwan because most of the chips used in Smartphones and modern cars come from TSMC in Taiwan.

Pull your head out of the butthole of woke american narcissists like Pelosi and the American media.

Side note, Sri Lanka destroyed it's economy by buying into the bullshit climate change gospel from the west. Hopefully, Africa doesn't make the same mistake.
US will never allow China take over Taiwan. If China take over Taiwan, they automatically control the pacific which accounts for major trade routes in Asia and a dent to US economy. Imagine what will happen if China close that route? It means end of business to US. Taiwan is not Ukraine!

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by sonofElElyon: 3:39pm On Aug 05, 2022
IbomFinest:
Chinese government is just making a mockery of themselves grin

USA just wants to put Taiwan in trouble like it did Ukraine... And they won't send troops in to help Taiwan...
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by kiddkash(m): 3:40pm On Aug 05, 2022
I wanna ask something honestly.

what did Taiwan gain from Pelosi's visit

US will come and make promises (heaven on Earth). they don't like just staying in their own country.
always manipulating country heads, funding the opposition parties and saying they are filing charges against someone
in order to turn the people against themselves and they come in and say they are peacekeepers.

case study: Iraq. under the guise of WMD came in and kill many, looted them dry and said they brought democracy.
don't take my word for it, search for yourselves

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by johnfem321: 3:43pm On Aug 05, 2022
Who is the oppressor the west or the east ?
dangermouse:
The yearnings of Freedom would always triumph over opression and the oppressors.

China should bring it on!
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by emmyileri(m): 3:43pm On Aug 05, 2022
Lovenorth:
I like the way China is approaching US, this Taiwan so-called president should be very careful with the most powerful country on earth. China has the ability to smoke them out in less than an hour.
Didn't you say the same thing about Russia and Ukraine? For your information, Taiwan's military is highly formidable coupled with geographical advantages just like Ukraine. Because they are not making noise doesn't mean they are cowards, it's just that not everybody value peace

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Shascky33: 3:44pm On Aug 05, 2022
Enddy50ty:
China needs America more than America needs China
Dat thing wey you dey smoke no fit you, change dealer.

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by ike007(m): 3:46pm On Aug 05, 2022
United States are fu.ckin.g hypocrites...what about Cuba that they blockaded nkor? Stupid USA..no be their fault, they haven't had their next door threatened. Taiwan never learn from Ukraine. That the United States are toothless bulldog who just encroach on the weak nations?
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Acidosis(m): 3:48pm On Aug 05, 2022
Enddy50ty:
China needs America more than America needs China

Funny. Go and check your data, sir. Even the "American" phone you used in typing this was made in China. grin
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by FarmTech(m): 3:49pm On Aug 05, 2022
Uprightness100:
Their so called climate change is a scam. The Ferocious changes in the Weather patterns are the Signs of the Imminent return of JESUS Christ. Nothing more! Nothing less!
Don't let them deceive you. There is nothing any nation, organization, expert or technology can do about the weather pattern .

Ladies and Gentlemen, Just look around the world
So much Bible Prophecies happening at once
The Prophetic Stage Has Been Set…
Things are not falling apart; they are falling into place..
This World is about to go Gaga!
We are living in Injury time.

JESUS Christ is Coming!!
Get Ready! Get ready! Be Ready !!
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I believe climate change is real because man's activities can harm the environment. If man can hunt animals to extinction, what about climate change. Try and Google how much CO2 is released into the environment via the Haber-Boch process of ammonia production. That is just a small fraction of pollution occurring worldwide. By the time you add exhaust gases from billions of vehicles and industrial power plants you will get the picture. What about methane emission from millions of rotting heaps, cows etc?
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This does not in any way disqualify the bible.

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by emmyileri(m): 3:50pm On Aug 05, 2022
Kingcalls:
I'm beginning to believe that the usa is Anti christ... they keep on doing to others what they themselves will not accept... if I were China or Russia...we will just collabo and build a powerful military station in Mexico so thst they will know how it feels .... just give Mexico 5 billion dollars ...they will accept
You believe that because you don't read your Bible
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:52pm On Aug 05, 2022
timay1:


It definitely will Affect Korea and Japan , if a war breaks out. Because those two countries are the closest to China and from the logistics point of view, they are the best place for USA to launch an attack on China from, because those two countries are literarily the US colony, they are currently not independent. Which means , those countries automatically become part of the war.
And it can go nuclear with North Korea lurking in the corner.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:53pm On Aug 05, 2022
emmyileri:

Didn't you say the same thing about Russia and Ukraine? For your information, Taiwan's military is highly formidable coupled with geographical advantages just like Ukraine. Because they are not making noise doesn't mean they are cowards, it's just that not everybody value peace
Strong military being encircled like creche toddlers?!
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Parkji: 3:55pm On Aug 05, 2022
Lovenorth:
I like the way China is approaching US, this Taiwan so-called president should be very careful with the most powerful country on earth. China has the ability to smoke them out in less than an hour.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT RUSSIA SAID.
WE WILL TAKE OVER UKRAINE IN 3 DAYS

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:56pm On Aug 05, 2022
MT:


You are funny. Taiwanese military did not promise to move heaven and earth. It was China that threatened the US, and US dared them. China should have hit Pelosi's plane with a projectile or one of the US military bases around them. Or they could have sent one missile into Taiwan, and see if all hell will not let loose.

I am not underestimating the Chinese military but they have certainly not got to the point they can challenge the United States. They can only bark but not bite.
Missiles were fired into Taiwan's waters.
Chinese jets flew past the median line with no response from the Taiwan airforce.
What sign of cowardice do you need again?!
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 3:58pm On Aug 05, 2022
Parkji:
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT RUSSIA SAID.
WE WILL TAKE OVER UKRAINE IN 3 DAYS
NATO should enter the conflict na. Putin has challenged them to try him in the battlefield. Ukraine is simply a drill for a bigger war with US and the puppet NATO.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by tishbite42: 4:01pm On Aug 05, 2022
MT:


You are funny. Taiwanese military did not promise to move heaven and earth. It was China that threatened the US, and US dared them. China should have hit Pelosi's plane with a projectile or one of the US military bases around them. Or they could have sent one missile into Taiwan, and see if all hell will not let loose.

I am not underestimating the Chinese military but they have certainly not got to the point they can challenge the United States. They can only bark but not bite.
The US that were literally chased out by rag-tag Taliban?! Abi another one?!
The only thing stopping any mega war is the nuclear deterrent. Forget any US bullshit.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by SIRTee15: 4:03pm On Aug 05, 2022
KingAzubuike:

China has been self sufficient for several decades. Lol you saying they need America more is dumb.

Which China is self sufficient. China was dirt poor until 30 yrs ago when America suddenly remembered them.
Before that, China was a backwater shit hole communist country with no hope and very depressed. This was after chairman Mao had sent 50 million of Chinese to their early graves due to famine, hunger and widespread poverty in the so called great leap backward.
American decision to move factory to China was what brought prosperity.
Yes America made China, but I agree Chinese people hardwork and resilience contributed significantly to the success.
That's why it's going to be vary hard for America to decouple from China, it can be done but very difficult.
No country can replicate the humongous Chinese manufacturing success.

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 4:09pm On Aug 05, 2022
obedience4:


Which Taiwanese tech? grin
Just semi- conductors that's what the west source from Taiwan..
Taiwan is not China and will never be Taiwan. Taiwanese tech (semi- conductors) are not for China..
Cheap labour cab easily be replace..
Countries like Vietnam the Philippines, India, Thailand could easily replace the cheap labour..
But can China replace the western market which amounts to 70% of its total trade?

'Just semi-conductor' shows you don't know much about semi-conductors.
If it's 'just semi-conductors', why can't big American tech replace it despite years of shortage? Or why is the US spending $50billion on semi-conductor factory subsidies.

The US is stiring up trouble because it can't stand a formidable China. While the US is stiring up conflicts from Asia, to Africa, to Europe, China is building meaningful trade relationships and investing in infrastructure across Asia and Africa.

Easily replaceable cheap labour but all the countries you mentioned are Asian countries. China will control the straits of the South China Sea and there's nothing narcissistic American liberals can do about it.

Biden asked this stupid woman not to embark on this trip but like any narcissistic woke liberal, they think international politics has to take a back seat to their fragile emotions.

No other country can attempt similar shenanigans with the US. Everyone acts like the Cuban missile crisis never happened and allow woke idiots like Pelosi to keep stiring up trouble that they won't be around to answer for when shit hits the fan.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Analyst7: 4:09pm On Aug 05, 2022
Enddy50ty:
China needs America more than America needs China
Sure now
Na when inflation dy US
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by InvertedHammer: 4:15pm On Aug 05, 2022
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US just like to stoke trouble.

That fighter jet formation that led Nancy Pelosi's plane into Taiwan is as intimidating as it can get.

I think it was a 7-2-2-5 formation. If they enter Nigeria like that, Buhari will run to Niger Republic grin grin

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by emmyileri(m): 4:17pm On Aug 05, 2022
tishbite42:

Strong military being encircled like creche toddlers?!
No one is denying that China is far stronger than Taiwan just as Ukraine restraint from many Russia provocations. But Taiwan is not a walk over, China would have invaded them if Taiwan is weak. Why do you support China that brought covid 19 to the world?

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 4:19pm On Aug 05, 2022
emmyileri:

US will never allow China take over Taiwan. If China take over Taiwan, they automatically control the pacific which accounts for major trade routes in Asia and a dent to US economy. Imagine what will happen if China close that route? It means end of business to US. Taiwan is not Ukraine!

Exactly why China will not allow a foreign power to control those routes. At least 70% of China's imported oil goes through those routes
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by jetpack(m): 4:21pm On Aug 05, 2022
America is an Economic World power but you see that military strength? Other countries have caught up.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by MT: 4:25pm On Aug 05, 2022
tishbite42:

Missiles were fired into Taiwan's waters.
Chinese jets flew past the median line with no response from the Taiwan airforce.
What sign of cowardice do you need again?!

Taiwan's airspace is not internationally recognised, the chinese just respect. Crossing the median does not mean in the real sense that Taiwan's airspace is breached because it was subjected to different interpretation. If China wants war, hit the US military base or hit any assets inside that Taiwan.

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by emmyileri(m): 4:26pm On Aug 05, 2022
TechtraGadgets:


Exactly why China will not allow a foreign power to control those routes. At least 70% of China's imported oil goes through those routes
You don't know anything about world politics

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by AlphaTaikun: 4:29pm On Aug 05, 2022
HonNL:
China scraps cooperation with US over Taiwan spat



SOURCE



SOURCE
The Chinese have an insidious territorial and expansionist agenda aside from Taiwan.

The world must keep a close watch to prevent the Chinese from becoming a threat to neighbors and the rest of mankind!

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Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by Electorate: 4:33pm On Aug 05, 2022
Enddy50ty:
China needs America more than America needs China

Ignorance is indeed a bad thing, do you know that your famous Iphone is designed in the US but manufactured in China since inception? Thats just an Iphone oooo...now imagine other trade relationship.

Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 4:35pm On Aug 05, 2022
Amayabor1:



No country in the World recognises Taiwan as an independent country? Please let us hear word.

If you knew your history too well, you would have known that the US interest on Taiwan didn't start today. Go back and read the Chinese civil war and the role the US played. You can also read about the first, second and third Taiwan crisis. All these occured at a point Taiwan has not become a chip manufacturing powerhouse. That chip is the reason the US is backing Taiwan is laughable.

You are the one to pull your head out of the butthole of Chinese imperialists.

Side note: Same Sri Lanka you mentioned handed over it's port to China when it couldn't repay it's loan. China is doing debt diplomacy to trap nations. Don't worry, Nigeria will relinquish some of it's national assets to China in the nearest future when all the loans Buhari is currently borrowing from China can't be repaid.

If you read my post carefully, you'll see that I mentioned "sovereign Taiwan"

There's always been skirmishes about who controls the straits in the South China sea. The US has always had interests in the region and in Taiwan but its interest in an "independent, sovereign Taiwan" has grown due to TSMC basically being the backbone of modern of tech.

You say it's laughable. So you think it's because of democracy like it was in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq..?

The Sri Lankan port issue pales in comparison to the billions of dollars of investments that China has made across Africa and Asia. It is giving American politicians sleepless nights.

"while the US goes to Afghanistan to preach about toxic masculinity, China goes there to build roads and bridges" - David Sacks, PayPal cofounder.

The fact that you will dismiss Taiwan not being recognised as an independent country as let us hear word, means you do not understand the gravity of what is being talked about. You ignore international laws and politics, thousands of people die, then you point your narcissistic finger towards China.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by TechtraGadgets: 4:36pm On Aug 05, 2022
emmyileri:

You don't know anything about world politics

But you do.
Re: Taiwan Visit: China Halts Climate, Military Ties With US; Sanctions Pelosi by MT: 4:41pm On Aug 05, 2022
jetpack:
America is an Economic World power but you see that military strength? Other countries have caught up.

In your dream. Do you even know the roles military bases play in warfare ?. Do you understand what logistics is about war? Have you considered the US annual military budget which dwarfs Russia and China budget combined? Do you know what US used to kill Al Zahwiri - Bladed HellFire which no one was aware of?

US is a beast. Do you know how much has been sunk into Ukraine in the proxy war with Russia? And they are still ready to prosecute another war with China. Omo, if you dont know , China knows, Russia understands. When you tell US not to do something, they will proceed to do it. That is liver, kidney and heart combined...lol

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