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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by isahsalee: 5:57pm On Aug 14, 2022

This is how they pushed Ukraine into unnecessary with Russian, Ukraine taking all the hit. Now Taiwan!

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Emac34: 5:59pm On Aug 14, 2022

Sltp:
USA don't have the capacity to fight any nuclear armed state.

And which nuclear armed state has the capacity to fight USA??

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Maxcollins042(m): 6:09pm On Aug 14, 2022

NwaMamaIwota:
US no be world power for mouth

World power wey grow cold feet for Afghanistan. Keep on hyping her.

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Maxcollins042(m): 6:10pm On Aug 14, 2022

isahsalee:
This is how they pushed Ukraine into unnecessary with Russian, Ukraine taking all the hit. Now Taiwan!

Taiwan's leaders are plain stupid. The U.S will use them as another pawn to wage a proxy war against China and na dem go suffer the whole thing las las for nothing.

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Mrtaye: 6:12pm On Aug 14, 2022

BentizilL:
There's nothing like sole superpower, we've few of them...
No one dare try this nonsense with Russia, even Pro Westerners her knows that..
Who wan die?

No body fear Russia naw it's just that they don't wanna go into the mud with muddy Russia ni...

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Mrtaye: 6:15pm On Aug 14, 2022

Danisaint112:
Why are telling me this? It's not my business what transpired between them in the past but I believe in the right of freedom of speech, movement and self autonomy if it is permissable by law. Period.

China should kiss Taiwan Goodbye. Trust me they would never integrate Taiwan into China Unless U.S, U.K, & Nato is completely dead...

Exactly my brother some people don't even know the meaning of rule of law, they are just supporting Russia and China like blinded zombies just because of the hate for America

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Mrtaye: 6:18pm On Aug 14, 2022

Goddson:
I see a lot of ignorant discussion on geo-politics on nairaland as usual.

China wants Taiwan's infrastructure intact (I.e semi-conductors plants). A full ballistic invasion is impossible without setting Taiwanese industry back by a decade.

That’s why China offered 1 country and two systems type of government just like it’s done with Hong-Kong.

A lot of people don’t know that this is an existential fight China is fighting, Taiwan cannot be an unsinkable aircraft carrier and landing for western military.
Did you know Japan attacked China from the Taiwanese island for half a century? Do you think China would want that to ever happen again by forfeiting Taiwan?

Most people here should pick up history books and start reading before coming here to gallivant in ignorance.

So have USA attacked China

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by giantstar: 6:19pm On Aug 14, 2022

mbaboy:
China and empty threats never deterred US

I wonder o despite all the threat from China.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Minjim: 6:29pm On Aug 14, 2022

China can do its worst

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Nobody: 6:31pm On Aug 14, 2022

Mrtaye:
So have USA attacked China

You have a dictionary right? Go check the meaning of “PROVOCATION”.
When you see the meaning, then there goes your answer.

Stop asking unintelligent questions please.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Minjim: 6:32pm On Aug 14, 2022

Maxcollins042:
World power wey grow cold feet for Afghanistan. Keep on hyping her.

You talking as if Afghanistan went to war with the US and defeated the US.

Afghans defeated themselves by choosing the Taliban. Now they won't say the US never assisted them

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Amayabor1: 6:32pm On Aug 14, 2022

Goddson:
I see a lot of ignorant discussion on geo-politics on nairaland as usual.

China wants Taiwan's infrastructure intact (I.e semi-conductors plants). A full ballistic invasion is impossible without setting Taiwanese industry back by a decade.

That’s why China offered 1 country and two systems type of government just like it’s done with Hong-Kong.

A lot of people don’t know that this is an existential fight China is fighting, Taiwan cannot be an unsinkable aircraft carrier and landing for western military.
Did you know Japan attacked China from the Taiwanese island for half a century? Do you think China would want that to ever happen again by forfeiting Taiwan?

Most people here should pick up history books and start reading before coming here to gallivant in ignorance.

You have not made any point. What is your point ?

Moreover, Taiwan people are wiser. They saw how China slowly and delibrately eroded the rights of Hong kong residents while paying lip service to one country two systems. Taiwan will never toll the line of Hong Kong.

You said Japan attacked China from Taiwan. If you knew your history very well, you would have known that during those times, Taiwan was under Japanese control. Japan was in control of Taiwan. It was not as if Taiwan was Controlled by Taiwanese and they allowed Japan to lauch attack against china from their land. It was an occupation. The story is different today where Taiwan is an independent country. If we are to flip the coin, do you think Japan will fold it's hands and allow China invade and take over Taiwan? Knowing fully well that if Taiwan falls under Chinese rule, it will jeopardize their own security.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by BentizilL: 6:33pm On Aug 14, 2022

Mrtaye:
No body fear Russia naw it's just that they don't wanna go into the mud with muddy Russia ni...

You can keep the consoling for yourself, everybody know who the West fear and always shit in their whenever they see... grin

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by bagad: 6:38pm On Aug 14, 2022

This is not Ukraine with u.s restricted
direct assistancee.
China can do and will do nothing.
Too much noisy threats Everytime, make Dem attack Taiwan na, battleships, submarines and aircraft carriers are stationed well well for interception and retaliation.
Straight

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by baralatie(m): 6:38pm On Aug 14, 2022

RomanGreen:
This your analysis is lame, China is currently dominating the entire continent of Africa with several African countries accumulating debts they can't repay, if you must know China has literally colonised Africa economically. That's why they use your country's national assets as collateral before they give you loan...tell me what that is if not subjugation. The USA isn't a saint here but currently China is cancer to the development of Africa

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Nobody: 6:51pm On Aug 14, 2022

Amayabor1:
You have not made any point. What is your point ?

Moreover, Taiwan people are wiser. They saw how China slowly and delibrately eroded the rights of Hong kong residents while paying lip service to one country two systems. Taiwan will never toll the line of Hong Kong.

You said Japan attacked China from Taiwan. If you knew your history very well, you would have known that during those times, Taiwan was under Japanese control. Japan was in control of Taiwan. It was not as if Taiwan was Controlled by Taiwanese and they allowed Japan to lauch attack against china from their land. It was an occupation. The story is different today where Taiwan is an independent country. If we are to flip the coin, do you think Japan will fold it's hands and allow China invade and take over Taiwan? Knowing fully well that if Taiwan falls under Chinese rule, it will jeopardize their own security.

Read my message again and read yours, who has made a point and who has not? Your message is just an extension of my point above, you only went into the history. I don’t have to go deeper into history of Taiwan, I ll let the ignorant lot to pick up a book and read on that… My point is china’s mainland was attacked from Taiwan during the second sino Japanese war.
Like I said before, China will never allow such that has happened to them in the past I.e Taiwan to be an unsinkable aircraft carrier for western forces. Such mistake will never happen again.

I guess you didn’t read my message well, you are just rushing to debate me and prove me wrong, mind you you don’t want to go that route with me, I’m vast in geo politics and well traveled.

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Omeizadean(m): 6:53pm On Aug 14, 2022

The US did more than this with Ukraine but quickly recoiled when Russia made good its threats.
If China swoop down on Taiwan now US will fold its arms and send weapons instead.
Or u don't get it?
Both China and US are nuclear capable state so war with each other can quickly go down south and they knew better.

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by baralatie(m): 6:54pm On Aug 14, 2022

Amayabor1:
You have not made any point. What is your point ?

Moreover, Taiwan people are wiser. They saw how China slowly and delibrately eroded the rights of Hong kong residents while paying lip service to one country two systems. Taiwan will never toll the line of Hong Kong.

You said Japan attacked China from Taiwan. If you knew your history very well, you would have known that during those times, Taiwan was under Japanese control. Japan was in control of Taiwan. It was not as if Taiwan was Controlled by Taiwanese and they allowed Japan to lauch attack against china from their land. It was an occupation. The story is different today where Taiwan is an independent country. If we are to flip the coin, do you think Japan will fold it's hands and allow China invade and take over Taiwan? Knowing fully well that if Taiwan falls under Chinese rule, it will jeopardize their own security.

Correct
The erosion and depletion of Hong Kong was china's undoing in this matter

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Staphylococcus: 6:59pm On Aug 14, 2022

Fuckingmallam45:
USA will partner with you once they realize you have got what they need.
There has NEVER been any confirmation or guarantee by USA that they will use military force to assist or protect Taiwan if China were to reunite Taiwan by force.

USA has been taking advantage of the situation between ROC Taiwan and PRC China to keep selling Taiwan their overpriced outdated weapons and most recently drugs-fed pork. US of A very wise Country.

Are you current at all?

Do you know what year that was signed?

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by obedience4(m): 7:02pm On Aug 14, 2022

SUPERPACK:
Let USA go ahead and drop a bomb on Russia let us see how far they can go on conventional warfare. They have never fought a battle alone in their hostory.

...
I guess Nigeria helped the USA defeat the japs during ww2 in the Pacific theater.. grin

..I guess you also help the Americans during the Beach landing in Omaha and Normandy.. Or you also help the Americans during the first gulf war.
Go and Google the battles the USA has won..the Chinese you are all hyping hasn't shot one single bullet in real warfare in over 100 years..the Russians that can't even capture Kiev grin

..
Wars are fought with Allies and all the battle the USA has been in coalition with either NATO or UN they have been the backbone of such operations..
Be it the UN intervention in Korea. NATO intervention in Libya, in the gulf wars, the war against terrorism the USA has been the Major contributor of both manpower and hardware.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Sltp: 7:03pm On Aug 14, 2022

obedience4:
So what your conclusion?..
The USA war in Afghanistan wasn't a conventional war it's was asymmetric which insurgents uses. Same tacit the Vietcong used in Vietnam.. The USA fought and won the two gulf wars.. And also the liberation of Kuwait those are wars fought conventionally..
The USA military hardware's are overated.Guess the Ukrainians will beg to differ, you are talking about wargames in Sweden?? Rea d about ww2 and the battle in the Pacific and invest yourself in the capabilities if the might USA Navy..
Any country could be defeated in a war but defeating uncle SAM in a conventional war its a tall order

The Almighty USA got scared of conventional warfare with Japan and was forced to use Atomic weapons. The Ukrainians are getting whooped daily.

There are countries that are difficult to defeat and defeating any of them them in an all war is a tall order - this is not specific to the Almighty USA.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by obedience4(m): 7:11pm On Aug 14, 2022

Sltp:
The Almighty USA got scared of conventional warfare with Japan and was forced to use Atomic weapons. The Ukrainians are getting whooped daily.

There are countries that are difficult to defeat and defeating any of them them in an all war is a tall order - this is not specific to the Almighty USA.

Come on bro, the USA was already winning in the Pacific theater, the battle of Midway change the tide.the us forces were already in Japanese territory.
The USA gave the Japanese a week to surrendered.
The emperor refuses and paid the Price..
Ukrainian are getting wiped huh

.. When last did you hear that Russia taken a new city..I thought they wanted to take Kiev in two weeks..
The USA took Iraq in a month.. Them Iraq had the largest standing army and the best air force in the middle east..

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by stylesh(m): 7:23pm On Aug 14, 2022

Sltp:
You sound dumb. The Soviets didn't fight war in Afghanistan. They fought a faction of Afghanistan that were being armed by NATO - America and Europe. The Soviets later had an agreement with the same NATO and left, the same NATO invaded and also lost after 20 years.

In an all out war between America and any major nuclear power, America will lose as much as the other side.

America military hardwares are overrated. Ordinary Sweden once sank the most prestigious american warship with a toy in a war game. They got whooped in Vietnam as well. Stop allowing yourself to be deceived of american media report on the inferiority of the military of their rivals. No country is undefeatable. War is unpredictable

obedience4:
Come on bro, the USA was already winning in the Pacific theater, the battle of Midway change the tide.the us forces were already in Japanese territory.
The USA gave the Japanese a week to surrendered.
The emperor refuses and paid the Price..
Ukrainian are getting wiped .. When last did you hear that Russia taken a new city..I thought they wanted to take Kiev in two weeks..
The USA took Iraq in a month.. Them Iraq had the largest standing army and the best air force in the middle east..

Sltp:
You sound dumb. The Soviets didn't fight war in Afghanistan. They fought a faction of Afghanistan that were being armed by NATO - America and Europe. The Soviets later had an agreement with the same NATO and left, the same NATO invaded and also lost after 20 years.

In an all out war between America and any major nuclear power, America will lose as much as the other side.

America military hardwares are overrated. Ordinary Sweden once sank the most prestigious american warship with a toy in a war game. They got whooped in Vietnam as well. Stop allowing yourself to be deceived of american media report on the inferiority of the military of their rivals. No country is undefeatable. War is unpredictable

You Lied big time here.. The Soviets Ran out of money to continue fighting the war in Afghanistan which led to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the great depression of the Russian Economy .

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Sltp: 7:26pm On Aug 14, 2022

obedience4:
Come on bro, the USA was already winning in the Pacific theater, the battle of Midway change the tide.the us forces were already in Japanese territory.
The USA gave the Japanese a week to surrendered.
The emperor refuses and paid the Price..
Ukrainian are getting wiped .. When last did you hear that Russia taken a new city..I thought they wanted to take Kiev in two weeks..
The USA took Iraq in a month.. Them Iraq had the largest standing army and the best air force in the middle east..

The Japanese were getting whooped but the US were the ones getting scared of a prolonged war? Maybe you need to go check why they US had to go atomic.

As for the Ukrainian invasion, there's no where the US invaded that they performed better than how they Russians are performing in Ukraine. If Russia is out to carpet bomb Ukraine, they'll overrun Ukraine in a week. When you're on the defensive, you are at the highest advantage. The only thing that shifts the tide is to carpet bomb your target which Russia doesn't want to do. Unfortunately, the US has done it in a lot of their invasions.

Talking about Iraq shows you know nothing about warfare. The Iraqi mission and the Ukrainian mission are different. The Iraqi mission is not for annexation, but regime change. They went their, carpet bombed Iraq, captured their targets and left, and hundreds of thousands of civilians paid the price with their lives. And when talking about large army, being large doesn't equate being strong. Ukraine has the second largest army in Europe - only next to Russia, but we know they're not in the top 10 strongest army in Europe

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Jokerman(m): 7:37pm On Aug 14, 2022

DeepSight:
Those toads could not beat the Taliban, and you think they can take on China?
Keep dreaming.

The USA that crushed Taliban in 2 weeks in 2001 or what?

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Sltp: 7:37pm On Aug 14, 2022

stylesh:
You Lied big time here.. The Soviets Ran out of money to continue fighting the war in Afghanistan which led to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the great depression of the Russian Economy .

Soviets ran out of money to continue invasion in Afghanistan? You can only tell that to western zombies like you. Some western propaganda has it that the invasion also "contributed" to what led to the break up of the Union - another hogwash

We all know how the Taliban were freedom fighters during the time of the Soviet occupation. They were sending arms and funds to help the fight against Soviet imperialism. Funds was also publicly solicited all over Europe and a lot of Europeans were sending donations to help the Taliban. Immediately the Russians left, the narrative changed, and the Talibans were no longer freedom fighters but Islamist and terrorists. The west are a threat to mankind

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Jokerman(m): 7:41pm On Aug 14, 2022

Maxcollins042:
World power wey grow cold feet for Afghanistan. Keep on hyping her.

Are you saying Afghanistan can stand USA in an all our war, not... minding civilians, just conventional?

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by Amayabor1: 7:47pm On Aug 14, 2022

Goddson:
Read my message again and read yours, who has made a point and who has not? Your message is just an extension of my point above, you only went into the history. I don’t have to go deeper into history of Taiwan, I ll let the ignorant lot to pick up a book and read on that… My point is china’s mainland was attacked from Taiwan during the second sino Japanese war.
Like I said before, China will never allow such that has happened to them in the past I.e Taiwan to be an unsinkable aircraft carrier for western forces. Such mistake will never happen again.

I guess you didn’t read my message well, you are just rushing to debate me and prove me wrong, mind you you don’t want to go that route with me, I’m vast in geo politics and well traveled.

Okay. So your point is that Japan attacked China from Taiwan. Okay, let me also add that Japan also occupied some area of present day mainland China.

However, this is the 21st century. Until China dares to invade Taiwan, Taiwan will continue to operate as an independent country.

When you say China will never allow Taiwan to be an unsinkable aircraft carrier for western forces, i just laugh. Last year, the Taiwan president confirmed that US troops are in Taiwan training Taiwanese soldiers. What did China do?

The present status of Taiwan (as an independent country) is already a win for the US and the west.

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Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by leathalbeast: 8:00pm On Aug 14, 2022

Danisaint112:
China the toothless bulldog. I wonder why they didn't bring down Pelosi plane as their government officials where all ranting on social media.

China should rest abeg. This people have a full functioning government, Happy and progressing. They have made it clear that they don't want to be part of China I wonder why China is peased over their peace.

did you say same thing when Biafrans were shouting for independence from Nigeria?

Re: US Congressional Delegation Visits Taiwan by leathalbeast: 8:03pm On Aug 14, 2022

Mrtaye:
Exactly my brother some people don't even know the meaning of rule of law, they are just supporting Russia and China like blinded zombies just because of the hate for America

USA that invaded Iraq with any evidence? Is that the rule of law you are talking about?

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