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Masterito:
I think you are dumb. Obviously you don't know understand American's interest. China won't dare to attack Taiwan untill they are sure America doesn't have significant interest there. Mumu, you for help China attack Pelosi when she visited Taiwan. Was that China's red line? Have sense, don't comment with emotions.

You are the definition of dumbness. Taiwan is Chinese territory. China does not have any business with america interest before attacking Taiwan. China never threatened to attack Taiwan, neither did they say anything about attacking Pelosi. China said they will respond accordingly which they're already responding.

The aims of US is to push China into war, just in a way they frustrated Russia to war with Ukraine, The objective of US on this strategy is by using the war to damage image of Chinese government and weaken their economy if China mistakenly fall to the trap like what is happening to Russia.

obedience4:
So what your conclusion?..
The USA war in Afghanistan wasn't a conventional war it's was asymmetric which insurgents uses. Same tacit the Vietcong used in Vietnam.. The USA fought and won the two gulf wars.. And also the liberation of Kuwait those are wars fought conventionally..
The USA military hardware's are overated.Guess the Ukrainians will beg to differ, you are talking about wargames in Sweden?? Rea d about ww2 and the battle in the Pacific and invest yourself in the capabilities if the might USA Navy..
Any country could be defeated in a war but defeating uncle SAM in a conventional war its a tall order

Don't mind them. They blindly hate the US. The US economy has been the biggest economy in over almost 100 years. They chased the Taliban into their caves and occupied Afghanistan for over 20 years. The reason they went into Afghanistan was to get Bin Laden when the Taliban refused to give him up. They just got entangled there trying to install democracy there ..

The Vietnam war like you said a different war. You had the Russians and Chinese backing the Vietcong and that was typical jungle warfare....Someone here wrote that the US is a paper tiger...

The US CAN fight in any continent in the world..they have mastered the art of all warfare...can the Chinese survive the harsh desert climate of the middle east, they can't even do very well in jungle warfare...

The Chinese are still having paranoia over a Japan that is aging but wants to rearm....

Fuckingmallam45:
Let me explain something to you.
To put it as simply as I can—US is afraid of China going berserk.

China established her credit through Korean war. China warned US not to intervene in Korea, but US did not respect China and take China seriously. China taught US a lesson by defeating US and pushed UN forces back to 38th line.

In Vietnam war, China said don’t go over 17th line. This time US remembered historic lesson they learnt in Korea and obeyed.

Now China did not say exactly what they are going to do when US formally recognize Taiwan, but promised to go berserk. US, being a smart country, decides to obey.

Just looked at this one who knows nothing about history and the only history he knows about is that of the history of Muhammad
The Korea war aka the forgotten war was the way in which the North Korea then was already at the bridge of extincting the south Korea if not for the intervention of the US hence pushing the North Korea back to the 38th line

Read and understand history you dumb pig

Sltp:
You are the definition of dumbness. Taiwan is Chinese territory. China does not have any business with america interest before attacking Taiwan. China never threatened to attack Taiwan, neither did they say anything about attacking Pelosi. China said they will respond accordingly which they're already responding.

The PRC has never for once in her over 60 years history ruled Taiwan.

Goddson:
Did you know Nato trained Ukrainian troops on Ukrainian soil for 8years, what is the result today?
Same fate awaits Taiwan, very soon the media will coin the topic that “China attacked Taiwan unprovoked”.. that will be the narrative, and you will soon stand with Taiwan just like you are standing with Ukraine.

I want you to see the bigger picture outside western propaganda, I understand your mind has been conditioned to follow the western narrative, China will take control of Taiwan in the not too distant future and all that will happen is more media propaganda and sending more weapons to Taiwan to defend themselves which benefits and enriches the military industrial complex in USA.

At home, the mid term elections is coming up in November and democrats are desperate to stir up any conflict and go any length to retain their seats. Which delegations do you think are going to Taiwan? Democrats.

It’s all a game bro, it’s just so unfortunate that when elephants fight, the grass suffers.


Open your eyes, open your mind, emancipate yourself from mental slavery, be awake…

The US and UK train Nigeria troops on counter terrorism, yet bandits are shooting at the convoy of the President...how does training amount to having the money to buy the right tools.

Military wise Taiwan and Ukraine are two different attack scenarios ....a Chinese invasion would be amphibious...Go and read the battle of Normandy

Qtrpst4:
You are obviously ignorant of what you are saying, google and you will find documents to that effect.
Do you know how many years it took russia to invade Ukraine? And he had to do it when trump left office, why does he need to do that?

Stop ranting and read

What happened in Afghanistan should open your eyes ? Latest USA military fighters jets and equipment Worth billions of dollars budgeted was lost to terrorist because the Biden Regime couldn’t maintain the USA accord with the taliban forces, it was one of the most shameful thing that has ever happened in the history of USA, that’s why the Russia government got the impetus to attack Ukraine.
Why did Russia not attack Ukraine in Trump administration?
They’re a lot of junks called conspiracy theory in the internet, don’t feed on that.
you couldn’t win a war against common taliban talk of China that has nuclear warhead and second largest economy in the world.

Mccullum:
The aims of US is to push China into war, just in a way they frustrated Russia to war with Ukraine, The objective of US on this strategy is by using the war to damage image of Chinese government and weaken their economy if China mistakenly fall to the trap like what is happening to Russia.

Exactly bro, USA will never go to war with China, they know the consequences of that.

Lol, emotions dey worry your head. Since China does have any business with American interest, then tell them to invade Taiwan na. Military drills is the response? You are a big clown. Taiwan has also done defensive drills and the US has also announce military drills in the Taiwan striat. Pelosi dared China by visiting Taiwan yet all China could do announce military drills. Lol, get sense abeg.

Sltp:
You are the definition of dumbness. Taiwan is Chinese territory. China does not have any business with america interest before attacking Taiwan. China never threatened to attack Taiwan, neither did they say anything about attacking Pelosi. China said they will respond accordingly which they're already responding.

Oga, are you aware the Russians also lost in Afghanistan? How do you compare conventional warfare with guerrela warfare, are they the same? China attacking Taiwan will be a conventional warfare and they can't win the US. Take that to the bank

brandsoncharlie:
What happened in Afghanistan should open your eyes ? Latest USA military fighters jets and equipment Worth billions of dollars budgeted was lost to terrorist because the Biden Regime couldn’t maintain the USA accord with the taliban forces, it was one of the most shameful thing that has ever happened in the history of USA, that’s why the Russia government got the impetus to attack Ukraine.
Why did Russia not attack Ukraine in Trump administration?
They’re a lot of junks called conspiracy theory in the internet, don’t feed on that.
you couldn’t win a war against common taliban talk of China that has nuclear warhead and second largest economy in the world.

Daum:
The US and UK train Nigeria troops on counter terrorism, yet bandits are shooting at the convoy of the President...how does training amount to having the money to buy the right tools.

Military wise Taiwan and Ukraine are two different attack scenarios ....a Chinese invasion would be amphibious...Go and read the battle of Normandy

All you wrote is jargons… I need not to waste my time.

tegrianonigltd:
Una no sabi politics, na just read and reply, usa build base for Taiwan, e go be threat to China why Russia is fighting Ukraine, but usa no go like make anyone build base for Cuba and Mexico, narcissist character, Na why Putin and China no wan gree, not about Ukraine or Taiwan. About their border been invaded by usa. Usa is the narcissist here, they are ones slowing africa development, forget say we Dey go there go enjoy, they need to maintain power and to do that, everyone need to be under you, same kind of politics our leaders Dey practice.

There is a guy I knew sometime ago, who after considering his most strength and weakness in his final year of Study, called all his friends, bought them bottles of beer with his last school fees, dropped out gracefully and started off with grilled chicken business. Today he's fulfilled, living in money. Him school fees no waste, but you...
you wait till final year, pay school fees, collect result, go NYSC, come back, come yarn this kind garbage with arrogance. School fees of how many years just loss throway with nothing to show for. Na wa o

Fuckingmallam45:
USA will partner with you once they realize you have got what they need.
There has NEVER been any confirmation or guarantee by USA that they will use military force to assist or protect Taiwan if China were to reunite Taiwan by force.

USA has been taking advantage of the situation between ROC Taiwan and PRC China to keep selling Taiwan their overpriced outdated weapons and most recently drugs-fed pork. US of A very wise Country.

you must be IPOB representative on Nairaland because every good news you always detest it. Have u ever wondered why usa remain super power, it is simply because of their full pledge to democracy around the globe..

Mike23r:
good thought...dat chips industry is why usa is so interested in taiwan..

Dem no even dey interestd in fight china or so

d owner of chip superiotity own half of all tech

TSMC is using American shared technology. That manfucturing hub has control panels in US and Europe, not just Taiwan alone. There'll be no TSMC without the West. The system isn't solely run by Taiwan. It's interconnected. It can be literally 'turned off' and rendered inoperable remotely from outside Taiwan. So if China even invades Taiwan and captures TSMC, it will be virtually locked and be as good as useless.
The US makes up about 65% of TSMC's market. That speaks volume.
US will always remain ambiguous about what she'll do in particular if China attempts invasion of Taiwan. What Biden spilled is fact. A surprise package for the Chinkos if them try am.

If no be YEYE authoritarian country, why should a country (China) tell another country (Taiwan) who is allowed to visit and who is not.

Everybody better chill and enjoy life. Human life span is around 80-120 years. You can choose to enjoy it or use it on Vawulence...na una Sabi.

Masterito:
Lol, emotions dey worry your head. Since China does have any business with American interest, then tell them to invade Taiwan na. Military drills is the response? You are a big clown. Taiwan has also done defensive drills and the US has also announce military drills in the Taiwan striat. Pelosi dared China by visiting Taiwan yet all China could do announce military drills. Lol, get sense abeg.

Stop being silly. Did China ever tell you they're in the business of invasion? China is regarded among the top 3 most powerful superpower, have you ever seen a country that got invaded by China? So they should invade Taiwan when they have other methods of achieving their objectives? If they'll invade Taiwan, US doesn't come in question and coward US will do absolutely nothing about it.

Goddson:
Still waiting for your text if you are who you really say you are…

Lol. Text you for what? You are free to believe anything sir.

Daum:
The PRC has never for once in her over 60 years history ruled Taiwan.

Tell that to the UN, the EU and even the US that even yesterday reiterated that One China principle

Goddson:
If that is your statement above then you also have the blood of 14000 Russian speaking dead civilians (women and children) living in Donbass area of eastern Ukraine on your neck.

So the 14000 people that was killed between 2014 to early 2022 (8years) is unprovoked?
Imagine the Nigerian government shelling your village and killing your people for 8years, wiping your family and kind off the face of earth because your tribe is different and you don’t speak Hausa or Fulani?

If that comment is truly coming from you, then you are a nazi, a vampire, and blood is also in your hands.

That's the same deluded and assumptous excuse Russia used in order to attack cremia in 2014

BentizilL:
How did Iraq sympathized and bankrolled the bombing of world trade centre?
Ignorant fools forming woke...
Spit!!

Yes that's actually the bitter truth you guys don't wanna hear lolz but always rejoice whenever America is attacked...am very sure you would be so happy behind your closet when wtc was bombed isn't it

Elsueno:
U.S army is only effective AGAINST insurgents who do not have similar weapons of war... Hundreds of thier veterans who believe in thier own lies & went to Ukraine to face d russians are getting massacred during encounters while d rest run away back to America...U.S can only intimidate third world countries & thier slaves in d E.U. In a conventional war fare thier chances of defeat against nationalistic armies 4rm Russia or China is extremely high... Especially Russia.. currently d only country with d highest number of experienced troops in conventional & modern warfare

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You said the USA is only effective against insurgent. I guess you were the one that liberated Asia from the grip of the imperialist Japan empire during ww2, well I guess you fought the two gulf wars for the USA.
You said the Russia currently d only country with the highest number of experience troops in conventional and modern warfare.. .. Yet they perform poorly during an urban dense fight around keiv and retreated we all saw clips of Russia soldiers crying and showing high level of indiscipline during the Ukraine war..you said Russia has experience in conventional war from which battle? The last major conflict the Russia soldiers fought was fight sepratives in south Ossetia.. And going to Syria and bombing children and women. So I wonder were you got the impression that the Russia soldiers has experience in conventional warfare.
China that has not shot one bullet in real warfare in over 100 years you are comparing with the USA.
Nawaoo just because you hate the USA doesn't mean you shouldn't see reasons

Goddson:
All you wrote is jargons… I need not to waste my time.

Lol... jargon, because you have nothing to refute what he said....

Stop wasting your time, USA will continue to be number 1

ecolime:
This one na see finish.. Chaii

The West only fears Putin and North Korean fatboy.

They are always careful not to scratch or fond1e the balls of erratic people.

Make dem sha no provoke China pass this current level. The Russian-Ukranian mess still dey ground biko

They'll goad Taiwan into self-destruction. They're just looking for a way to hit China's economy. The west is struggling. China should be smart not to invade, hit Taiwan from within.

Daum:
You make the Chinese intervention in the Korean war Look like it was a direct conflict. The Chinese sent over 100,000 troops as volunteers into that war.... Remember it was easy for the Chinese to mobilize quickly because they share a border with North Korea and most of the troops in that war were the communist guirella forces who just won the civil war.

America was fighting a Korean war far away from home. You guys need to give enough respect to these yankees. They fight you in your own turf and backyard.... If General Mc Arthur had not underestimated the Chinese he would have known how to deal with them.

Today's America doesn't underestimate China
Infact she sees china as the power she wants to contend with. So America is preparing for a war....the last time china was in a war was with Vietnam and they had to hurry out of it...this was in the 70s....

The current troops in china have never fought a war...most of their generals or commanders haven't also any war experience...

This will tell on the field

I absolutely agree with you.

olaniyilukman:
you must be IPOB representative on Nairaland because every good news you always detest it. Have u ever wondered why usa remain super power, it is simply because of their full pledge to democracy around the globe..

I really shouldn't answer troll question by folks who know nothing about me, who never bother to check maybe I'm truly the kind of person he claimed I was and did nothing else on Nairaland than to abuse and insult over someone personal opinion. To even see that you're even a Yoruba guy makes me to feel disappointed, because we don't behave like this.

But let me still educate you a little. The USA will stand up to China regarding Taiwan AS LONG AS IT IS IN THERE INTEREST TO DO SO and not a second more

Now what that interest is is a much more complex and often dark question that I would not go into too much detail here.

But if you ask me as someone who has seen the world quite enough, I feel it’s pretty stupid for a country to trust the good will of the USA you might as well join the player of the game instead of hoping your a pawn that the player you like more would treat you nicely and won’t sacrifice you when needed.

womenareapezz:


Just looked at this one who knows nothing about history and the only history he knows about is that of the history of Muhammad
The Korea war aka the forgotten war was the way in which the North Korea then was already at the bridge of extincting the south Korea if not for the intervention of the US hence pushing the North Korea back to the 38th line

Read and understand history you dumb pig

In terms of intelligent, you can't compare yourself with me, in all ramifications academically, we are not in the same level, now I understand why you address yourself as "womenraper, your moniker befitted you accurately . Now let me educate you bros:
We should always base our thinksing on hard facts.

China never support North Koreans attack South Korea! It was USA making up these assumptions, fool the S Koreans so that they will pay USA, offer military bases and let US buy out Samsung!

When N Korean invaded South, China did not supported them. No China army involved.

When MacArthur crossed the 38th Parallel border as defined by International Agreement, no China Army was not involved.

MacArthur, US and 15 other countries joint forces standing at the opposite of Yalu River, targeted on the very last mile to China's border, China jointed the war at this worst situation. No air support, no heavy artillery, no latest weapons!

China pushed the 16 countries forces back to 38th Parallel in just a few weeks.

China never crossed the 38th Parallel.

China never supported the North Koreans in getting Seoul.

If the N Korean and China joint force can push the US Army all the way from China border 400kms away to 38th Parallel, which is a few miles from Seoul, why not also taking Seoul which is just within eye sight ?

It was because China never support N. Koreans, even though they try hard on Seoul, without China's army crossed into the South, they can never get Seoul!

China is always the same, not supporting N. Korean invade South in the past, and will not in the future!

Minjim:
You talking as if Afghanistan went to war with the US and defeated the US.

Afghans defeated themselves by choosing the Taliban. Now they won't say the US never assisted them

Yeah. The same people they evacuated out of Afghanistan to keep them out of reach of the Talibans chose the Taliban.

Didn't they invade Afghanistan to depose the despotic Talibans and usher in democracy? They didn't know the people were against their form of government in the first place?

Fuckingmallam45:
Let me explain something to you.
To put it as simply as I can—US is afraid of China going berserk.

China established her credit through Korean war. China warned US not to intervene in Korea, but US did not respect China and take China seriously. China taught US a lesson by defeating US and pushed UN forces back to 38th line.


In Vietnam war, China said don’t go over 17th line. This time US remembered historic lesson they learnt in Korea and obeyed.

Now China did not say exactly what they are going to do when US formally recognize Taiwan, but promised to go berserk. US, being a smart country, decides to obey.

I think USA is not looking to defeat China in a war but to cause instability in the Asia Pacific region and distract China from becoming world preeminent power.

dreu2fine:
Even if their is treat the USA wants to see their strength.
But China advance sha

1. There can be only one superpower. If another wants to CLAIM superpower, its has to prove it in blood.

2. China cannot outspend US in defense. Apart from the Chinese J-fighters (which was a copy anyway) and some few other military techs, China has a very outdated arsenal (check out their arsenal on online)-more outdated than Russia's.

3. No sane country would align with automcacy over democracy. Hence China has very very very few allies who could go as far as going into war alongside with it.

4. Chinese economy is over 70% export dependent. About 50% of it goes to Europe alone. Unlike Russia, China does not have DEPENDENT resources that could adversely affect Europe. A sanction on China would be catastrophic.

5. Over 90% of Chinese export is via sea. America controls ALL the choke points. A mere navy blockade would crumble at least 80% of Chinese exports.

6. If America stops innovating now, it would take another 20 years for China to catch-up with Anerica's technology might (especially military hardware).

7. Over 70% of Chinese industries are around the sea (Beijing, Shanghai etc). A full and UNRESTRAINED confrontation would see those industries up in flames.

8. Russia will not join China in fighting. The country has exhausted over 50% of its military might in Ukraine and currently vulnerable. Besides, China and Russia are not friends (long story for another day). Even if China and Iran chose to be involved, there presence will make very little difference. Besides, the war would be a maritime war and would happen in China. And Neither Russia nor Iran has reasonable naval asset

Finally, a war between China and US would take the world backward for a least 50 years. There would be untold suffering, death, and starvation, especially in third world countries.

However, China knows that going head on with US, now is a suicide mission. Forget the yeye equipment dem dey display. Na children dey try prove a point.

God1000:
It appears china's military drills around Taiwan following the visit by house speaker Nancy pelosi aimed at deterring Washington has failed

No US administration can afford to dismiss Taiwan as an island of non-concern, given america’s ideological commitment to preserve and promote liberal democratic world order

China cannot intimidate USA, the world's foremost superpower

Poking nose into other countries affairs is creating problems were there is non, same way the US manufactured the proxy war between Russia and Ukraine but couldn't send troops when the war started.

Now they left Ukraine to create another war in between Taiwan and China. Can the US fight both Russia and China at the same time? Doom for the US, its about time the US is humbled.

Righteousness2:
The cup of Iniquity of Nomerica is Full.

From Russia to China to Iran and Within ,God is stirring up Nomerica aka Mystery Babylon to its destruction.

You are a f00/ ...
Minister of d00m. Scammer.

Ppogbae:
We need more features and functionalities on nairaland. Latest changes aren't enough

Whack updates.