Kobojunkie:
The psalms are there to teach you of God. They are not there however to command you in regards to God since Jesus Christ is the one who is meant to be your one and only Master and commander. And as Jesus Christ taught, it is against God to store New wine in Old wineskin, and vice versa.

oya, psalm 92

Kobojunkie:
The psalms are there to teach you of God. They are not there however to command you in regards to God since Jesus Christ is the one who is meant to be your one and only Master and commander. And as Jesus Christ taught, it is against God to store New wine in Old wineskin, and vice versa.

Also psalm 47 says, clap ur hands all peoples, acclaim God with shouts of joy. Does it mean that some of u pick some passages and throw away some?

Let him read psalm 47 and know if Jesus is not God.

Kobojunkie:
1. What exactly are "holy hands" because that concept alone is foreign to His teachings.

2. Look, this is simple. Jesus Christ is the Covenant upon which you are called by God to live your life by, the foundation upon which your idea of who God is ought to be built. As He told you, you are called to obey His every teachings and commandments, and no other- John 14 vs 15 - 20 - in His Name. And this is what God's Will is.

If you are unable to get that foundation correct, everything you build on whatever foundation you choose instead is meaningless- all other grounds are sinking sand - Matthew 7 vs 24 - 29

No one says otherwise. Even Jesus quoted from the old testament which shows you that God honours His word. So, don't be too Jesus and forget that we are both talking about God's word.

Kobojunkie:
But Jesus Christ never gave to you that responsibility to begin with so by whose authority do you claim to have it?

You can't return that which you were never given authority for or to.

The same Jesus also returned Glory to God. So, are you saying we should not imitate Jesus? As I don't understand your argument.

Safyqueen:


Islam is for the whole world. It therefore come in contact with different cultures hence the slight difference you see in Muslims.
But every Muslim has the following in common which is the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith.
1. GOD ALMIGHTY which we call ALLAH SWT is one and only one.
2. That MUHAMMAD SAW is HIS slave and messenger. The same with other prophets like Musa(AS), Isah (As) etc.
3. The book al Qur'an is unique word of ALLAH SWT reveal to our holy prophet for all mankind. The book is same in all respect and non revisable. The Arabic form which is the original form is same in words, spelling and chapters for all Muslims any where in the world.
4. Pray five times
5. Go to Hajj
6 give arm to the poor.
7. Fasting during the month of Ramadan.

So Islam is one and every of our compulsory way of worshipping is the same. But cannot say of other religion this way.

The true sect is the sect that believe in all of the above which includes all Muslims.

You mean it is out of cultural diversity that some people, like the Boko Haram believed killing others is justify in the Quran or you are saying that they are actually following the instructions as written in the Quran?
Are you saying that you are happy and in support of what is happening in Afghanistan and that they are true Muslims who are following the word as written?

Christians always deceived there selfs, why will you be clapping for human being like you, all creature are being sent to deliver message. All messengers of Almighty God, are human being like us. Christians stop misleading young ones.

Clapping was an expression of religious adoration and worship during the time of Israel. Clapping of hands in the Temple is only to exalt God as King. It was used in recognition of Him as the Sovereign Lord, the Ruler of the Universe and the Savior. A clap the hands indicates approval, applause, commendation, a message expressing a favourable opinion concerning an issue. See Psalm 47:1, Isaiah 55:12 and 2Kings11:12.

It is really sad to see someone who claims to be a believer "selecting" what books of the Bible to accept.

The Holy Bible is our authority. It has the old and new testaments.

Jesus Christ even confirms the old testament as an authority.
During Christ's temptation in the wilderness, he quoted from the book of Deuteronomy.

Jesus Christ not only upheld the old testament, he also raised the standards.
In the old testament, it is said, thou shalt not commit adultery but Christ said that if you look at a woman lustfully, you have already committed adultery in your heart.

All the books of the Bible make up the Bible. They all are accounts written by people inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Do not remove any part as irrelevant nor add to what is written therein. There are consequences.

ayourbamie:
Na so one pastor say Alleluia is not an heavenly language

Still same pastor

New things everyday

AzzaMan:



Church of Christ?


Romans 16:16

Yes sir

Kobojunkie:
1. Keep your peace.... I have no need of it.

2. Stop being afraid of what Jesus Christ told you to do? He is the one you claim is your saviour and He called you to follow and obey Him. So, why do you hesitate when you read what He said to you over 2000 years ago?

3. God sent you Jesus Christ and He told you to obey Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ never told you to clap hands or play the drums to Him, not even once. He told you that those who do as He commands are those who are His friends, so if you don't even respect what He says to you, and you don't obey Him, ask yourself.. who is it that you really follow?

I don’t think you’re read what you wrote to my response to you ! So off you go bruh ! Avoid me on any topic on this platform make I no vex for you because you obviously just quoting me for whatever reason known to you not because you want to make a point , where in my comments did I make mention of disobeying Jesus Christ or God Himself? I think you should read what you wrote on paragraph 2 again because…… wo don’t stress me jare

spencekat:
It is not bad clapping or drumming in the church.

Well we don’t do it in my Church.

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Islam is for the whole world. It therefore come in contact with different cultures hence the slight difference you see in Muslims.
But every Muslim has the following in common which is the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith.
1. GOD ALMIGHTY which we call ALLAH SWT is one and only one.(@ ahad means one of, wahid means one)ikhlas
2. That MUHAMMAD SAW is HIS slave and messenge.(@ ok)
3. The book al Qur'an is unique word of ALLAH SWT reveal to our holy prophet for all mankind. The book is same in all respect and non revisable. The Arabic form which is the original form is same in words, spelling and chapters (@ 1st revelation was iqraa but is a middle chapter now;walrsh qur'an has 112 suras,hafs' 114;some verses were lost in battle eg yamama,etc ibn umar even said so.Sura 33 & al azhab; a'isha RA said the sura of breastfeeding an adult was eaten by a sheep when the prophet saw died)
4. Pray five times(@ qur'an says three)]

CAN should say something about this

Kobojunkie:
It is unnecessary because Jesus Christ said He does not want your praise- John 5 vs 41 - 45 . Same applies as far as the supposed lifting of holy hands. It is all vain where Jesus Christ is concerned.

no na..lifting up holy hands

Stanleyq:
oya, psalm 92

Again, The psalms are there to teach you of God. They are not there however to command you in regards to God since Jesus Christ is the one who is meant to be your one and only Master and commander. And as Jesus Christ taught, it is against God to store New wine in Old wineskin, and vice versa.

You can also quote from Exodus 20 through the books of Deuteronomy where God's actual commandments are recorded. The same applies even then. Those commandments are not meant for you but for the children of Israel because they are those who are of the agreement that is written there. You however, are instead called to have Jesus Christ as you Master, and as such you are to obey Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ. You commit sin against God by attempting to follow the Old ways and the New together. So, what of this do not understand?

Stanleyq:
Also psalm 47 says, clap ur hands all peoples, acclaim God with shouts of joy. Does it mean that some of u pick some passages and throw away some?

Again, The psalms are there to teach you of God. They are not there however to command you in regards to God since Jesus Christ is the one who is meant to be your one and only Master and commander. And as Jesus Christ taught, it is against God to store New wine in Old wineskin, and vice versa.

You can also quote from Exodus 20 through the books of Deuteronomy where God's actual commandments are recorded. The same applies even then. Those commandments are not meant for you but for the children of Israel because they are those who are of the agreement that is written there. You however, are instead called to have Jesus Christ as you Master, and as such you are to obey Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ

This isn't about picking and choosing. Instead it is about obeying God, the one who clear warned you not to mix Old and New wine together nor store New wine in Old wine skin. Will you obey Him or will you trust instead in the lies of men and their churches, you decide? Will you choose to sin against God who warned you not to add, change or remove commandments from His Law, which is what you do when you attempt to follow commandments in His Old Law( a law you were excluded from by the way) while claiming to belong to His New Law?

Nauttyprof:
No one says otherwise. Even Jesus quoted from the old testament which shows you that God honours His word. So, don't be too Jesus and forget that we are both talking about God's word.

Quoting from the Old Covenant is one thing but not once did Jesus Christ command His disciples to do as the Old Covenant people did. Did you at least understand that from reading His teachings? He gave His followers a New and different Law , a standard that is higher than that documented in the Old Covenant and He commanded them to obey Him only.

Lol.... don't be too Jesus.... you mean one is not meant to obey all of Jesus Christ's decrees, including that which warns against the serving of two Masters .e.g the Old Law and the New Law at the same time, as well as warnings against attempting to store Old Wine in New wine skin?

Don't be too Jesus.... lol... you folks never cease to amaze me with your utterances.

Nauttyprof:
The same Jesus also returned Glory to God. So, are you saying we should not imitate Jesus? As I don't understand your argument.

Jesus Christ never asked you to imitate Him. Instead, He said those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 . And those who are His friends are those who do as He says....John 15 vs 14.

He made it abundantly clear that the key to the Kingdom of God is Obedence... not prayer as your pastors and mogs have continuously lied to you.

He taught that those who build the foundation of their lives in the Kingdom through obedience of His teachings and commandments are those whose foundation is set on on Rock; all others instead set their foundations on sinking sand - Matthew 7 vs 24 - 29 & Luke 6 vs 47 - 49.

So, the question remains why continue with these meaningless rituals when from over 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ informed you of their meaninglessness?.

elonize:
no na..lifting up holy hands

What makes your hands holy to begin with?

Olojuobinrin:
I don’t think you’re read what you wrote to my response to you ! So off you go bruh ! Avoid me on any topic on this platform make I no vex for you because you obviously just quoting me for whatever reason known to you not because you want to make a point , where in my comments did I make mention of disobeying Jesus Christ or God Himself? I think you should read what you wrote on paragraph 2 again because…… wo don’t stress me jare

Believe me when I tell you that I am not the cause of your confusion at all. Many of you have allowed yourselves become so indoctrinated in the lies fed you by your Many pastors and mogs, men who you claim are holy even when God never promised to send any such to you to begin with. You are so deceived that even the very Words of Jesus Christ, words spoken from over 2000 years ago, hit you like heresy and send you scrambling for the lies as way of justifying your disobedience of what is God's command to you.

You claim to belong to the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom that is ruled by Jesus Christ and whose Key is Jesus Christ, yet you refuse to obey Jesus Christ who told you that obedience is the key into the Kingdom of God and eventually into Heaven at the end. You want to enter His Heaven but you refuse to do what He said instead searching high and low for backdoor which you pretend your pastors and mogs provide for you. No be juju be that?

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Stop embarrassing yourself. Look for knowledge first before commenting on public issues.

Safyqueen:


Islam is for the whole world. It therefore come in contact with different cultures hence the slight difference you see in Muslims.
But every Muslim has the following in common which is the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith.
1. GOD ALMIGHTY which we call ALLAH SWT is one and only one.
2. That MUHAMMAD SAW is HIS slave and messenger. The same with other prophets like Musa(AS), Isah (As) etc.
3. The book al Qur'an is unique word of ALLAH SWT reveal to our holy prophet for all mankind. The book is same in all respect and non revisable. The Arabic form which is the original form is same in words, spelling and chapters for all Muslims any where in the world.
4. Pray five times
5. Go to Hajj
6 give arm to the poor.
7. Fasting during the month of Ramadan.

So Islam is one and every of our compulsory way of worshipping is the same. But cannot say of other religion this way.

The true sect is the sect that believe in all of the above which includes all Muslims.

Yes o. They have suicide bombing, terrorism, underage marriage in common too.

They also share in common the practice of killing people for their "prophet." Right?

Whatever, anyway? I couldnt read ur long comment, sorry.

damosky12:


Yes o. They have suicide bombing, terrorism, underage marriage in common too.

They also share in common the practice of killing people for their "prophet." Right?

You are a media schooled fellow. No knowledge and lack the capacity of looking for one as well.
All the crime listed above have no religion nor tribe. No country commits mass bombing crime more than America but today they are your Messiah and source of civilisation. Our daughters doesn't flirt around anyhow. No baby factories. You know what I mean

Safyqueen:


You are a media schooled fellow. No knowledge and lack the capacity of looking for one as well.
All the crime listed above have no religion nor tribe. No country commits mass bombing crime more than America but today they are your Messiah and source of civilisation. Our daughters doesn't flirt around anyhow. No baby factories. You know what I mean

I love your excess use of emoticon. E shock you.

That line of trying to blacklist the media is lame already, by the way...

Well, the bulk of the most violent terrorists in the world have been Moslems. We can actually literally reel out lists and lists of them here.

Another fact you can't deny is that overwhelmingly the most disturbed, violent prone, poverty-ridden regions of the world are Islam dominated. It is a no-brainer. Afghanistan, South Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Seria, Yemen. Name them...

Let's not go too far. The most troubled places in Nigeria are what? Who are the bandits, the book harams, their sponsors?

The world will be free from the evils of Islam.

damosky12:


I love your excess use of emoticon. E shock you.

That line of trying to blacklist the media is lame already, by the way...

Well, the bulk of the most violent terrorists in the world have been Moslems. We can actually literally reel out lists and lists of them here.

Another fact you can't deny is that overwhelmingly the most disturbed, violent prone, poverty-ridden regions of the world are Islam dominated. It is a no-brainer. Afghanistan, South Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Seria, Yemen. Name them...

Let's not go too far. The most troubled places in Nigeria are what? Who are the bandits, the book harams, their sponsors?

The world will be free from the evils of Islam.

You are a follower of media attack on Islam but ALLAH SWT guides HIS religion not the Muslims against the attackers.
All those countries were peaceful before the enemy of Islam, the western countries in search of free mineral resources infiltrated wars, chaos, removal of regime and so on into them.
They commit suicide bombing in retaliation to the oppression and preoccupation of their land.
You think the north enjoys what is happening and you people thought those killing are Muslims, sorry for you. We pray for GOD ALMIGHTY intervention if not by the time they (neo-colonial masters) succeeded in causing war in this country be it religiously or otherwise, the speed at which they will start taking our resources free will shock you. Those western countries will stay in between to kill both sides and keep on draining the minerals.

Safyqueen:


You are a follower of media attack on Islam but ALLAH SWT guides HIS religion not the Muslims against the attackers.
All those countries were peaceful before the enemy of Islam, the western countries in search of free mineral resources infiltrated wars, chaos, removal of regime and so on into them.
They commit suicide bombing in retaliation to the oppression and preoccupation of their land.
You think the north enjoys what is happening and you people thought those killing are Muslims, sorry for you. We pray for GOD ALMIGHTY intervention if not by the time they (neo-colonial masters) succeeded in causing war in this country be it religiously or otherwise, the speed at which they will start taking our resources free will shock you. Those western countries will stay in between to kill both sides and keep on draining the minerals.

The western countries that you keep demonizing are responsible for the education that you have now (which your brethren, book haram, are fighting against). They are responsible for the tech advancements spread all over the globe today.

It's only thanks to them that you are communicating to me in English language and using a phone. But you think they are telling lies against Islam when they report the cases of violence by Islam. What a muffled, self-deluded, self-deceitful perspective!

Did the Western media misreport the following:

1) The barbaric lynching of a Christian girl, Deborah, in the Sokoto, by Moslem mob https://www.nairaland.com/7132197/deborah-samuel-sokoto-mob-killed/5

2) non-religious man burnt to death by Moslem mob https://www.nairaland.com/7161433/mob-kills-vigilante-blasphemy-abuja

3) killing of prostitute girl by Moslem mob who came to patronise her because they found Qur'an in her room https://www.nairaland.com/7177215/lagos-prostitute-hannah-saliu-burnt


I can go on and on. But you can wallow in your utopia of a saintly Islam.

Islam has been associated with violence since it's incipience... Book haram, Isis, Al Qaeda, and "moderate" Moslems all have that demonic DNA of violence in them.

The religion spread by violence, thrived by violence, and is only being sustained by violence. This is why the most islamic regions of the world are the most unpeaceful.

That's the truth. Deal with it.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never asked you to imitate Him. Instead, He said those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 . And those who are His friends are those who do as He says....John 15 vs 14.

He made it abundantly clear that the key to the Kingdom of God is Obedence... not prayer as your pastors and mogs have continuously lied to you.

He taught that those who build the foundation of their lives in the Kingdom through obedience of His teachings and commandments are those whose foundation is set on on Rock; all others instead set their foundations on sinking sand - Matthew 7 vs 24 - 29 & Luke 6 vs 47 - 49.

So, the question remains why continue with these meaningless rituals when from over 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ informed you of their meaninglessness?.

Like I earlier stated, read Bible in its wholeness and not just take a side to dwell on. What does Matthew 11:29 then mean. Please, before you reply me also check the meaning of imitate.

To have even suggested a half view of what Jesus expect from us, are you also saying the Disciples who directly learnt from Christ got it wrong? While only you had the right view of Jesus' teaching.

Please, let's stop all these religiosity and begin to focus on just the Bible and not just one sided view of the Bible

Kobojunkie:
Quoting from the Old Covenant is one thing but not once did Jesus Christ command His disciples to do as the Old Covenant people did. Did you at least understand that from reading His teachings? He gave His followers a New and different Law , a standard that is higher than that documented in the Old Covenant and He commanded them to obey Him only.

Lol.... don't be too Jesus.... you mean one is not meant to obey all of Jesus Christ's decrees, including that which warns against the serving of two Masters .e.g the Old Law and the New Law at the same time, as well as warnings against attempting to store Old Wine in New wine skin?

Don't be too Jesus.... lol... you folks never cease to amaze me with your utterances.

Never give the scriptures your own meaning that's the beginning of heresy. This is one of the reason I mentioned that you want to be too Jesus in this whole discussion.

When Bible referred to two masters, there was nowhere Jesus referred to Old and New testament, you gave it a meaning which Jesus never said. He referred to God and money. To have even suggested that this meant the two testaments is heresy as you are even saying there are two different God involved.

Do you know more than Jesus who quoted from the Old testament from the beginning of his ministry and to the end on earth? Some were replaced, some He emphasized more on them and also dwelled on God's word from the old