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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:36pm On Aug 12, 2022 |
joephemzyz: Hei! My mind reach your side just last week sef. Hope you dey kampe? No worry, we dey Buhari matter, we go flog am for you 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:48pm On Aug 12, 2022 |
birdman:It really rubbishes the myth that lousy gatekeepers like Draymond try to peddle that playing basketball means you're an expert at all things basketball and you're the only ones that should be critiquing. A guy like Steve Nash who's a HOF PG should not be deficient in X's and O's and caught lacking this badly. He played for years under Don Nelson and Mike D'Antoni ffs. Can you imagine a guy like Nick Nurse with this Nets squad? Even with the guys they've added once they get a serviceable big this is a championship caliber roster. If I'm Joe Tsai I'd probably fire Nash, that's the only compromise I can make and get a real coach, cos If KD is running from the grind with this squad then he's a fraud I'm afraid |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 6:11pm On Aug 12, 2022 |
A40: When I saw the coaches you mentioned, I started laughing Don Nelson is an HOF coach, but absolutely no discipline when it comes to defense. He was called mad genius for a reason. Even his offensive schemes were crazy. As far as Im concerned, the only reason Dantoni is still a coach in the NBA is hand check rules. At best this guy is an assistant coach, an offensive coordinator if you will. At one point the guy benched Gasol in favor of small ball |
Re: The NBA Begins by Android22: 9:18pm On Aug 12, 2022 |
A40:Nick Wright said something about KDs requests and I think I agree with him. He said KD did not really want to get Mark and Nash fired but to appear like a cancerous player so he could force Tsai to trade him. He signed off on Nash and now wants to throw him under the bus? Whether Nash is this much of a bad coach, we may never know because he let KD and Kyrie do what they liked. KD is dipping because he does not want to get flak for how disastrous last season was. Even Lebron tweeted after Nets got swept that he promises to never miss out on the playoffs again so it won't affect his legacy. KD knew that was a veiled shot which is why he is taking the anger out on the ownership even though they gave him all he wanted. Westbrook has his flaws but he tried to tell us KD was a snake and a cupcake. KD slied Russell, slied Steph and the Warriors, and is trying to do same to the Nets. Great player no doubts. . .horrible teammate away from basketball. 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 11:23pm On Aug 12, 2022 |
birdman:You're not getting my own point. Nobody said he had to be a great defensive coach. In the NBA the truth is the game is 80% talent and 20% coaching. Don Nelson never had enough to be a title winning coach. Even D'Antoni if we want to be honest has never had enough to win a title. The difference is they had a style and D'Antoni came the closest of all to beating a fully loaded 2017 Warriors team. With a team that honestly had no business doing so. Those guys had a philosophy which the likes of Kerr copied and fine tuned. Having generational shooters like Steph and Klay also helped. My issue with Nash is they're not playing with any philosophy on offense or defense. They lack identity |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 1:34am On Aug 13, 2022 |
A40: I understand you perfectly. My point is neither of those coaches is the type that instills discipline in players. And neither of them look like the type that mentors others to be great coaches. For example, if Nash had played for Larry Brown, there is no way you come out of that system and not have some Larry Brown type discipline instilled in you. |
Re: The NBA Begins by joephemzyz(m): 6:10am On Aug 13, 2022 |
birdman: HahHaha sure guy! Thanks heaps. I dey okay o. How this year fantasy go na, who win? |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:31pm On Aug 13, 2022 |
Android22:I get that angle. KD is trying to play chess. The question is what will a team hoping to trade for KD know they're getting? Imagine trading your first rounders for the next 3 to 4 years for a player who will be 34 soon and has suffered a torn Achilles and has had significant injuries last two seasons. What is clear is that the Nets did not have any culture or chain of command. They let two high skilled but low character players run their franchise to the ground and now have almost wrecked it. This season has made it abundantly clear that a KD while great is going to need another team on a Golden State caliber level to even be a sure shot to a ring. A team lacking an MVP caliber player will be stupid to trade for KD as he's not physically or even mentally that guy he was in 2016. If I'm Joe Tsai I'm only trading for commensurate compensation. Whatever KD chooses to do is his business, ofe l'ohun. A star caliber player, a serviceable bench guy and 3-4 first rounders is the only reasonable compensation, and a smart GM on the other hand will only make that trade if he had a Steph, Giannis, Jokic, Luka level player 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:51am On Aug 15, 2022 |
joephemzyz: Na knightfury o. killrhymz was the team to beat all season, but the finals was the mother of all surprises.The way knightfury take flog am, ha! I have not seen or heard from killrhymz since then. E shock am, bro neva recover Even smooshchn chop unmerited beating I kukuma didnt make the playoffs 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:34am On Aug 15, 2022 |
Man do I love the #Slimreaper He just knows how to get them riled up.... |
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 7:33pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Hate or love Stephen A, what you can't deny is that he's big. He's is Him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zri8mMsnFyA |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:12am On Aug 18, 2022 |
So the WNBA playoffs started today and I wanted to talk about the format. They play a best of 3 series with a 2/1 game format. The team with the better regular season record play 2 games at home before heading away for the 1 game, if needed. I don’t like this format because it doesn’t reward the team with the winning record. If the other team (away team) splits the first 2 games, game 3 which would be the series decider will be hosted by the lower seeded team. Take for example, today the Chicago Sky who are the number 2 seed and defending champions, I might add lost at home to NY Liberty who are seeded 7th. That means, at worst, the Liberty will host the series decider in NY which is a huge advantage. A 1/1/1 format will be better. I hope they seriously consider it. Also, the WNBA needs to reconsider the rule which forces every WNBA team to fly commercial. If an owner can afford to fly his team via private planes let them be allowed to do it. It is called competitive advantage. It is sad to know that college athletes (basketball/ football) fly private planes across the country and abroad while professional WNBA players are stuck in queues with everyone else trying to board commercial flights and in some instances these flights get cancelled or delayed with lost baggages. The WNBA have a lot of work to do in making this league more marketable. I know I have talked about this in the past and nothing as far as the level of play has changed. Maybe I am expecting too much but for what they are demanding, they absolutely have to raise their game. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:16pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Roland17: Fundamentally, sports is a guy thing more than girl thing. Women have other entertainment options besides watching 5 grown men or women putting a ball in the basket. Wether people want to be politically correct or not, women still gravitate more towards other kinds of recreation. So womens sports like bball, soccer, etc will never be on par in terms of money. This is not a bad thing in itself. 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:08pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Roland17:Lmao College athletes actually turn profit. The WNBA does not. You see that league. That league is the result of performative and not organic support. Of which this format is basically to reduce back and forth flights Let me tell you the truth. The WNBA cannot be marketed more than it's being marketed now. The problem is an audience and demographic problem. Like birdman said, we can be PC all we want or we can be honest with the real issues here. The primary demographic that watch and invest in sports is straight males between 15 and 65. No straight man is out here trying to watch Britney Griner, Brianna Stewart and Elena Delle Donne I'm sorry. If you're going to watch athletically inferior product you should at least have eye candy to look at. Not women trying to move like men (let's keep it funky now) The LGBTQIA crowd that holler about gender inequality and other megedefegede that should be their audience are #1 in the minority and #2 and perhaps more crucially they don't really give a shyte about sports. Look at Twitter. WNBA has less than 800k followers, NBA has almost 40million There's more women than men in America. A country of over 300 million people. If they support their own like men do. They will earn as much if not more than men 4 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 9:32pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
The real issue with the WNBA is one of time. The league is about 25years old and on paper it is built for a demographic that as at the time of its inception had other things to entertain them. If you look at the nba, nfl even European football ball leagues in their 1st 25 yrs of existence one thing that is noticeable is that the players were not as well off as their peers today, most of the early pioneers in sports had to have 2nd jobs. Women leagues of every kind has to go through the growing pains that the men's leagues also went through. They need to first get the sports to the young kids, who if they fall in love with the sport will help create the bed rock of the fan base that can make it a commercial success in the future, just as the men's league all did. Most of the fans of all men's league fall into three categories, people who played when young, or people who got introduced to the game by either their father or the father figure in their life, or guys who got introduced to the sport by a friend or friends who fall into one of the 1st two categories. The fact is historically there was a time men were not watching the sports we all enjoy today in the numbers that enabled players to become rich from playing them. 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 10:12am On Aug 19, 2022 |
A40 birdman Roland17 Khaben all of you made valid points on this WNBA issue. I felt like giving all of you cold beer I was reading your post. WNBA could and will eventually evolve to be a better product but there will always be limitations because watching and spending your money on sports in general is not a ladies thing. some women do it but they are small percentage. Even the sports where the women are cashing out. Their tournaments are closely bundled with the men's game e.g the big tennis and athletics event go on in the same tournaments with the male section so it caters for similar audience (mostly men) so they share from the same port of TV revenue and sponsors. Likewise there will never be a successful male version of keeping up with khardasians. We just have different preferences. 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 3:24pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
Unfortunately, this is not the issue. Ofcourse they'll keep getting better until they climax, as in there's only so much you can do to better another person, i.e to @A40s comment. What the female gender wants is to be at the same level as the men. . And it's clear once they start complaining the most powerful amongst us bulge and offer palliatives. The plan is to keep them from complaining. I don't know but if you decide to venture into an activity someone else dominates, whether because they've been doing it for much longer, you better be hella creative and ready with the tools. Men are physically competitive, so any sports that involve you displaying your physical prowess, we love. As @A40 mentioned, depending on what the sport is about, I am not watching a stack inferiorly gifted on average. If you want us to watch you, go compete with the most gifted in that sport. The issue with the female gender becoming relatively relevant in sports as far as viewership is they cannot even serve their immediate audience which is their fellow women, fundamentally cos, despite some of them continue dey make mouth , they are not interested in watching activities that require a display of physical strength, although they may be by association(partners, children e.t.c). The first market for men's sports is men. Women are more interested in activities centered around the display of certain features , or portrayal of certain characters, feelings or/and pleasures, for example as you mentioned, the Khardasians. Get your fellow women to watch first, or cater to their preferences. . Very simple. In tennis, moneys are awarded based on the qualification of players to another level, relatively smaller in quantity and different from the individual contract structure of Football, Basketball e.t.c, it's easy to equalize earnings in the former. Unfortunately, cos physical strength is involved women continue to turn into men in these sports, and I'm not sure any man likes the sound of that. . All in all good luck to them. etidy: 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 3:42pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
benji93:In fact if you unpack female tennis from male tennis by taking away the grand slams that both gender partake in. Female tennis won't have the followership and money it enjoys today. |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:48pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
etidy:Yes. People keep getting it twisted conflating abilities and gender megedefegede with actual value which is what generates and dictates what you're going to get paid as an athlete. Conor McGregor is not and never has been as good as a Kamaru Usman but Kamaru will never touch McGregor money. Because value matters As for WNBA. Another silent problem is their perception as a league of the Woke. That's the problem ESPN is also facing. The truth is people just want to watch games and not have to worry about players taking political stands and being used as perceived pawns. There's just nothing visually appealing to a straight male to compensate for the inferior athletic abilities. Add the wokism and it's double jeopardy Unlike tennis where you have people like Graf, Anna Kournikova, Sharapova, Serena and numerous other fine women who just happen to play tennis and are marketable and relatable. If I'm a brand how do I market a Britney Griner to my primary demographic of men, hell even your average woman that wants to be feminine Realistically speaking more women are going to have to gain some interest in the league. Or they get more marketable faces of feminine women (whether they like it or not) to get the 15-65 straight male demographic interested and invested 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 4:02pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
A40: My girl, one of her padi for law school na wife to one of these wnba players wey don enter wnba finals before. She they news as of now on top the russian thing. If you ask my wife how many times she don go wnba games go watch even her friend partner, he never reach two but when argument for equal pay start with Nba, The points wey she they make no be for here. I go just keep quiet make them no call me names wey i no be. If i ask am where the bar go come from to pay them, na small remain make she say make Nba pay them abi she even talk am sef 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:03pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
etidy:This is true but these gender Warriors don't wanna hear this. I do think they would at least fare better than the WNBA in that regard. The disparity won't be as wide 2 Likes |
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 4:44pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
Take care ooo, before them initiate person. . I no talk anything ooo. donlittle25: 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:51pm On Aug 19, 2022 |
donlittle25:Lmaoo. Guy I no send oh. Any woman wey no fit stomach true talk no go fit cope with me. As e be na so I dey talk am. How many years person go live this life? Hahaha na Griner wife? Shey them talk say them want equality nau. Them see equality now them dey run. I can't take anyone arguing that equal pay nonsense serious. This is a league wey never make $1 since them open for business. In a truly capital world them suppose dey receive invoice not paycheck These people don't support this league at all. Na why I dey always attack them without remorse. Them no dey practice wetin dem dey preach Go and check the engagements of their posts for normal games vs when argument for pay come up. The difference is night and day. Left for them NBA suppose dey comot from their money give them (which they're doing anyway) these are people averse to spending on their own male partners but for some reason dem expect men wey no sabi them from Adam to share their loot with them |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 12:16am On Aug 20, 2022 |
benji93: To be honest, I think this would be terrible for society. We need more feminine energy in society, not less. Most of the shootings, robbery and assaults and r*pe are men. Like 80% ish. What we really need is women doing things the feminine way and getting paid equivalently. Wether doctor, or model or whatever. There should be no reason to consider MMA a better sport than a beauty contest. You like what you like! Thats why even the women MMA fights, Im not a fan. It feels more like violence p0rn than anything else. I saw one the other day, wey dem panel beat this woman's face like 1980s Peugot 504 . Ha! What kind of society thinks those kinds of depictions of women are ok? But hey, thats just me. Where is ewuro4 btw. Come and chime in pls Roland17, why u quiet now? lol 1 Like |
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 12:42am On Aug 20, 2022 |
birdman: Thank you for noticing say I don quiet. I quiet for 2 reasons. 1. I love to read more, particularly divergent opinions about this issue. 2. E be like say people no really understand my position or it has been misconstrued my original post. But I love what I have been reading. I go definitely clarify my position. |
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 12:46am On Aug 20, 2022 |
Na how you go no say some of us don mean these people tey tey. Any small thing we just explode. Next time no mention them. Roland17: |
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 10:07pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
benji93: dey take style dey pour kerosene on top firewood. we see you o |
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 3:07pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Mo mind me. No mind me. Make October reach quick quick, make we get better something talk. birdman: |
Re: The NBA Begins by joephemzyz(m): 8:07am On Aug 23, 2022 |
birdman: |
Re: The NBA Begins by felix00(m): 4:21pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
KD stays after all |
Re: The NBA Begins by felix00(m): 4:23pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
KD finally came to his senses. Running it back with the Nets is his best shot at a title. Hopefully Ben simmons and Kyrie are committed this time around. He should demand assurances 1 Like
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