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Re: ...... by movado19: 4:47pm On Aug 05, 2022
Salamun Alaikum And Jumma Mubarak to Everyone.

This was a very interesting read for me that I thought to share.

Re: ...... by movado19: 6:36pm On Aug 05, 2022
Can anyone who is in or very familiar with the Tijjaniyya Tariqah kindly explain why the first criteria is that way?
I ask because I personally am not aware that other tariqahs (to the best of my knowledge) hold such stringent criteria, meaning that if the Mureed/a
feels that he/she is no longer benefiting spiritually, then they are free to seek another shaikh or tariqah.

I am aware that not all shaykh/a - Mureed/a relationships are made in heaven or a best fit, so my inquiry is geared toward understanding when this dynamic doesn't yield fruit for both parties, then how does the mureed/a exit the tariqa?

Thank you.

Re: ...... by littleguy444: 2:31pm On Aug 06, 2022
movado19:
Can anyone who is in or very familiar with the Tijjaniyya Tariqah kindly explain why the first criteria is that way?
I ask because I personally am not aware that other tariqahs (to the best of my knowledge) hold such stringent criteria, meaning that if the Mureed/a
feels that he/she is no longer benefiting spiritually, then they are free to seek another shaikh or tariqah.

I am aware that not all shaykh/a - Mureed/a relationships are made in heaven or a best fit, so my inquiry is geared toward understanding when this dynamic doesn't yield fruit for both parties, then how does the mureed/a exit the tariqa?

Thank you.
Yes it might not be so in other tariqat.
Because not all sheikh- murid relationship are successful there are conditions established for changing of sheikh but it must be within the tijaniyat tariqat and not any other tariqat reason being from the maqam bestowed on sheikh Ahmad tijanni r.t.a known as the seal of sainthood.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 11:08pm On Aug 06, 2022
littleguy444:
Yes it might not be so in other tariqat.
Because not all sheikh- murid relationship are successful there are conditions established for changing of sheikh but it must be within the tijaniyat tariqat and not any other tariqat reason being from the maqam bestowed on sheikh Ahmad tijanni r.t.a known as the seal of sainthood.

Okay, thank you for explaining it.
I have actually heard other shaykhs in other tariqas say almost the same thing about their own tariqa, that other ones (tariqas) will eventually fizzle and merge with their own over time as they are the eventual "flagbearers"... Allahu Alam.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 11:35am On Aug 07, 2022
movado19:


Okay, thank you for explaining it.
I have actually heard other shaykhs in other tariqas say almost the same thing about their own tariqa, that other ones (tariqas) will eventually fizzle and merge with their own over time as they are the eventual "flagbearers"... Allahu Alam.
Yes truly but more pronounced in Tijanniya tariqa. I think one can always switch over to the one you perceive more affinity. And even at other ends I am amazed from other sheikhs where instruction do come from, but more would definitely be from the sheikh you have most affinity or close to.

I have since reply your email and still expecting your reply.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 12:09pm On Aug 07, 2022
LadunaI:

Yes truly but more pronounced in Tijanniya tariqa. I think one can always switch over to the one you perceive more affinity. And even at other ends I am amazed from other sheikhs where instruction do come from, but more would definitely be from the sheikh you have most affinity or close to.

I have since reply your email and still expecting your reply.


Okay, thank you for explaining it.

Really? I did not see it in my inbox or junk mail.
Could you please resend? Thank you.
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:33pm On Aug 07, 2022
movado19:



Okay, thank you for explaining it.

Really? I did not see it in my inbox or junk mail.
Could you please resend? Thank you.
Done!
Re: ...... by movado19: 9:27pm On Aug 07, 2022
LadunaI:

Done!

Replied.
Re: ...... by littleguy444: 1:54pm On Aug 09, 2022
LadunaI:

Yes truly but more pronounced in Tijanniya tariqa. I think one can always switch over to the one you perceive more affinity. And even at other ends I am amazed from other sheikhs where instruction do come from, but more would definitely be from the sheikh you have most affinity or close to.

I have since reply your email and still expecting your reply.
Sheikh laduna it's been so long we tapped from your fountain of experience regarding matter of the other ends, well I am expecting your words of wisdom and knowledge and encouragement coupled with marifa, Masha Allah sheikh.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 8:51pm On Aug 09, 2022
littleguy444:
Sheikh laduna it's been so long we tapped from your fountain of experience regarding matter of the other ends, well I am expecting your words of wisdom and knowledge and encouragement coupled with marifa, Masha Allah sheikh.
Lol @ sheikh grin. I am still a salik trying hard to better myself by subjugating my stubborn self-Nafs.

Whenever the need arises, we might still continue sharing our various experiences, it helps motivate us further to do more.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 4:53pm On Aug 15, 2022
From Page four of thread:

...two out of the three darknesses that plague mankind's ascension to Allah...
Wilaya is dependent on eradicating these darknesses.

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Re: ...... by littleguy444: 7:11am On Aug 16, 2022
LadunaI:

Lol @ sheikh grin. I am still a salik trying hard to better myself by subjugating my stubborn self-Nafs.

Whenever the need arises, we might still continue sharing our various experiences, it helps motivate us further to do more.
Masha Allah

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Re: ...... by littleguy444: 7:12am On Aug 16, 2022
movado19:
From Page four of thread:

...two out of the three darknesses that plague mankind's ascension to Allah...
Wilaya is dependent on eradicating these darknesses.









Please what is the third and can you please elaborate on the darknesses and how to eradicate them.q
Re: ...... by movado19: 5:26pm On Aug 16, 2022
littleguy444:
Please what is the third and can you please elaborate on the darknesses and how to eradicate them.q



1. Grief of the past (huzn).
- Only those who die disobedient to Allah and RasulAllah (S.A.W.) should expect to be in a state of grief and fear Q03:153.


2. Fear/anxiety about the future (khawf).
- Those who are tyrannical (as a result of inducing fear in others) shall taste of grief over what they have done and are anxious and fear what they will face in front of Allah. Q10:83.
- The end of Pharoah the tyrant as he fears the sight of what lays ahead of him Q10:90.


3. Expectation from people as well as expecting rewards and/or praises. This is the hardest to overcome.
- Story of Musa (A.S.), Khidr and the wall. Q18:77.
- Giving up what you love and not expecting to be rewarded nor praised for it. Q:76:09


A Muslim who aspires to be a Mumin and then Muhsin should / must eradicate this problem with the help of a Murshid (guide).
This is not about self-help or going to workshops as seen in the west but has to do with the spiritual state of the heart, hence the need for a spiritual guide.

You must believe in:
- Allah
- His Last prophet and messenger as well as the past prophets and messengers
- His Angels and the unseen worlds
- His books
- Heaven and Hell
- The last day
- Qadha Wa Qadr

The one who abides by the above shall have no grief nor fear.

You must/aspire to be:
- be a Mumin/Muhsin
- establish Salat
- give Zakat
- submit your will to Allah
- kill your Nafs for the sake of Allah
- have taqwa of Allah
- willing to reform yourself
- obedient to Allah, His last prophet, and those in divine authority
- be righteous
- spend in secret and/or in public (without showing off)
- have a good expectation of Allah always (Husn Ad-Dhan Billah)

The one who embodies the above shall have no grief nor fear, nor do they expect praises or rewards.

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Re: ...... by littleguy444: 5:50pm On Aug 16, 2022
movado19:




1. Grief of the past (huzn).
- Only those who die disobedient to Allah and RasulAllah (S.A.W.) should expect to be in a state of grief and fear Q03:153.


2. Fear/anxiety about the future (khawf).
- Those who are tyrannical (as a result of inducing fear in others) shall taste of grief over what they have done and are anxious and fear what they will face in front of Allah. Q10:83.
- The end of Pharoah the tyrant as he fears the sight of what lays ahead of him Q10:90.


3. Expectation from people as well as expecting rewards and/or praises. This is the hardest to overcome.
- Story of Musa (A.S.), Khidr and the wall. Q18:77.
- Giving up what you love and not expecting to be rewarded nor praised for it. Q:76:09


A Muslim who aspires to be a Mumin and then Muhsin should / must eradicate this problem with the help of a Murshid (guide).
This is not about self-help or going to workshops as seen in the west but has to do with the spiritual state of the heart, hence the need for a spiritual guide.

You must believe in:
- Allah
- His Last prophet and messenger as well as the past prophets and messengers
- His Angels and the unseen worlds
- His books
- Heaven and Hell
- The last day
- Qadha Wa Qadr

The one who abides by the above shall have no grief nor fear.

You must/aspire to be:
- be a Mumin/Muhsin
- establish Salat
- give Zakat
- submit your will to Allah
- kill your Nafs for the sake of Allah
- have taqwa of Allah
- willing to reform yourself
- obedient to Allah, His last prophet, and those in divine authority
- be righteous
- spend in secret and/or in public (without showing off)
- have a good expectation of Allah always (Husn Ad-Dhan Billah)

The one who embodies the above shall have no grief nor fear, nor do they expect praises or rewards.



Jazakumullahu khayran for this, I pray may Allah s.w.t make it easy for us.a

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 5:47pm On Aug 17, 2022
movado19:




1. Grief of the past (huzn).
- Only those who die disobedient to Allah and RasulAllah (S.A.W.) should expect to be in a state of grief and fear Q03:153.


2. Fear/anxiety about the future (khawf).
- Those who are tyrannical (as a result of inducing fear in others) shall taste of grief over what they have done and are anxious and fear what they will face in front of Allah. Q10:83.
- The end of Pharoah the tyrant as he fears the sight of what lays ahead of him Q10:90.


3. Expectation from people as well as expecting rewards and/or praises. This is the hardest to overcome.
- Story of Musa (A.S.), Khidr and the wall. Q18:77.
- Giving up what you love and not expecting to be rewarded nor praised for it. Q:76:09


A Muslim who aspires to be a Mumin and then Muhsin should / must eradicate this problem with the help of a Murshid (guide).
This is not about self-help or going to workshops as seen in the west but has to do with the spiritual state of the heart, hence the need for a spiritual guide.

You must believe in:
- Allah
- His Last prophet and messenger as well as the past prophets and messengers
- His Angels and the unseen worlds
- His books
- Heaven and Hell
- The last day
- Qadha Wa Qadr

The one who abides by the above shall have no grief nor fear.

You must/aspire to be:
- be a Mumin/Muhsin
- establish Salat
- give Zakat
- submit your will to Allah
- kill your Nafs for the sake of Allah
- have taqwa of Allah
- willing to reform yourself
- obedient to Allah, His last prophet, and those in divine authority
- be righteous
- spend in secret and/or in public (without showing off)
- have a good expectation of Allah always (Husn Ad-Dhan Billah)

The one who embodies the above shall have no grief nor fear, nor do they expect praises or rewards.



Jazakhallaukhairan for this sis. While I am digesting the insight in your post, I am as well intrigue with irony example given presented.

Hardrat Musa(as) actually practiced the third option when he helped the two sisters to water their sheep's by not demanding any things but rather asked Allah for any assistance from him right their immediately after task Q28:24, but ironically telling Hardrat Khidr(as) to take wages for his work?

Also, how would you class this kind of fear Hardrat Musa(as) had in Q28:21

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Re: ...... by fadal(m): 7:03pm On Aug 18, 2022
ANIMALS CAN SEE ANGELS
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 9:11pm On Aug 18, 2022
fadal:
ANIMALS CAN SEE ANGELS
And you being one of special class of "ANIMAL" have seen one before?
Re: ...... by movado19: 10:54pm On Aug 18, 2022
LadunaI:

Jazakhallaukhairan for this sis. While I am digesting the insight in your post, I am as well intrigue with irony example given presented.

Hardrat Musa(as) actually practiced the third option when he helped the two sisters to water their sheep's by not demanding any things but rather asked Allah for any assistance from him right their immediately after task Q28:24, but ironically telling Hardrat Khidr(as) to take wages for his work?

Also, how would you class this kind of fear Hardrat Musa(as) had in Q28:21


You are most welcome, and your questions are excellent, Ma Sha Allah!

I will InshaAllah start with Q:28:21 :
Musa (A.S.) was running away due to the incident with the Egyptian because he knew the action that would be taken against him.
The fear he experienced is very natural as we all experience it too, which is that we see something which is very harmful and because we know its final outcome should it get to us, then we become afraid and seek means to distance ourselves from it or reach safety, such as an attack from a rabid dog, being attacked by a crocodile or lion, running away from armed robbers, etc.
This type of fear is known as Al khawf At-tabi'i (natural fear).

Note: Prophet Musa (A.S.) wasn't yet a prophet during this phase of his life, so he would experience emotions of anxiety and fear as other people too.


In Q:28:24 , Musa helped the two sisters and did not demand for payment and immediately asked Allah for any help/relief because:
- he (A.S.) was known to be a very chivalrous man and asking - especially women - for money wasn't/ isn't part of chivalry.
- his act was sadaka ahead of asking Allah for help/relief. This is part of where the lesson and adab to perform sadaka before
asking Allah for something is learnt from.
- Also, he did what is known as FI SABIL ALLAH (for the sake of Allah), which is a form of J!had An Nafs.
- Allah immediately accepted his dua by one of the sisters speaking well about him to her father (prophet Shuaib A.S.) who then
asked to bring Musa (A.S.) to him.
- He was blessed to learn/do Khidma from a prophet of Allah.
- He was blessed by Allah with the marriage to one of the prophet's daughters.

- Musa (A.S.) came to that place in a state of fright/flight for his life and anyone in such a state has no appetite for the material things in life.
All the person is strongly yearning for is to be spared and protected by Allah, so we can see from his voyage with Khidr when juxtaposed with
that of the sisters, that he was in two completely different states.
1. state of flight/fright - became more aware of himself and Allah as his only source. And according to Q28:21, he was in a state of
Muraqaba (vigilance). Truly, someone in this state is so vigilant that life's pleasantries make no meaning to such a person.
2. state of rest/ non-flight - he became less aware as there was no imminent danger and as such, one in this state would most likely indulge in
the good things of life.

There is a saying that goes: "Ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship."
A lot of people forget themselves and even Allah when all is going okay in their lives. The Quran also attests to this Q31:31-32

3. With the sisters, he had not attained prophethood, so there is a level of expectation from him as a human.
With Khidr, he was already a prophet, and so, there is higher level of expectation from him.

A lot of the older and past sheikhs will say something like:
"what is accepted for the everyday person becomes a degree of sin or darkness for an elite."
Meaning, to whom much is given, much is also expected.
An ordinary person can have expectations from people/things but the Salik cannot be this way. His/her expectations should
be fully in Allah, whether in a state of constraint or ease.
The higher one's station, the higher his/her Ihsan will/should be.

Musa (A.S.) got his prophethood when he was drawn by the fire/light and as a reminder of his station, Allah said to him:
" Ya Musa! have no FEAR. For truly in my presence, those called as messengers have NO FEAR ! Q27:10
And that is why fear and anxiety are stumbling block/darkness for the Salik. A guide with experience (Khidr) will help
expose your fears and also help in overcoming them, because what the sight beholds during ascension is tremendous indeed...
And with respect to his position/station, it does not befit Musa (A.S.) to have those layers of darkness hovering over him/his life.

It is interesting to note that his expectation from people did not reveal itself prior to being a prophet, when he helped the sisters and in a state
of dire need, rather, it manifested after he became a prophet of Allah and wasn't being chased for his dear life!
This goes to show that no one should rest on their laurels and think that they are safe or know it all, no matter the person's position.
Also, every situation, in ease or in difficulty, is a test from Allah, and as such, one should always be in a state of Muraqaba (vigilance).

May Allah be with us all, have mercy on us all and overlook our shortcomings, Amin.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 11:02pm On Aug 18, 2022
...please, let us not get derailed, so just overlook and no need to engage, and keep it moving, Bi Ithin Allah.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 11:07pm On Aug 18, 2022
littleguy444:
Jazakumullahu khayran for this, I pray may Allah s.w.t make it easy for us.a



You are most welcome.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:24am On Aug 19, 2022
movado19:



You are most welcome, and your questions are excellent, Ma Sha Allah!

I will InshaAllah start with Q:28:21 :
Musa (A.S.) was running away due to the incident with the Egyptian because he knew the action that would be taken against him.
The fear he experienced is very natural as we all experience it too, which is that we see something which is very harmful and because we know its final outcome should it get to us, then we become afraid and seek means to distance ourselves from it or reach safety, such as an attack from a rabid dog, being attacked by a crocodile or lion, running away from armed robbers, etc.
This type of fear is known as Al khawf At-tabi'i (natural fear).

Note: Prophet Musa (A.S.) wasn't yet a prophet during this phase of his life, so he would experience emotions of anxiety and fear as other people too.


In Q:28:24 , Musa helped the two sisters and did not demand for payment and immediately asked Allah for any help/relief because:
- he (A.S.) was known to be a very chivalrous man and asking - especially women - for money wasn't/ isn't part of chivalry.
- his act was sadaka ahead of asking Allah for help/relief. This is part of where the lesson and adab to perform sadaka before
asking Allah for something is learnt from.
- Also, he did what is known as FI SABIL ALLAH (for the sake of Allah), which is a form of J!had An Nafs.
- Allah immediately accepted his dua by one of the sisters speaking well about him to her father (prophet Shuaib A.S.) who then
asked to bring Musa (A.S.) to him.
- He was blessed to learn/do Khidma from a prophet of Allah.
- He was blessed by Allah with the marriage to one of the prophet's daughters.

- Musa (A.S.) came to that place in a state of fright/flight for his life and anyone in such a state has no appetite for the material things in life.
All the person is strongly yearning for is to be spared and protected by Allah, so we can see from his voyage with Khidr when juxtaposed with
that of the sisters, that he was in two completely different states.
1. state of flight/fright - became more aware of himself and Allah as his only source. And according to Q28:21, he was in a state of
Muraqaba (vigilance). Truly, someone in this state is so vigilant that life's pleasantries make no meaning to such a person.
2. state of rest/ non-flight - he became less aware as there was no imminent danger and as such, one in this state would most likely indulge in
the good things of life.

There is a saying that goes: "Ease is a greater threat to progress than hardship."
A lot of people forget themselves and even Allah when all is going okay in their lives. The Quran also attests to this Q31:31-32

3. With the sisters, he had not attained prophethood, so there is a level of expectation from him as a human.
With Khidr, he was already a prophet, and so, there is higher level of expectation from him.

A lot of the older and past sheikhs will say something like:
"what is accepted for the everyday person becomes a degree of sin or darkness for an elite."
Meaning, to whom much is given, much is also expected.
An ordinary person can have expectations from people/things but the Salik cannot be this way. His/her expectations should
be fully in Allah, whether in a state of constraint or ease.
The higher one's station, the higher his/her Ihsan will/should be.

Musa (A.S.) got his prophethood when he was drawn by the fire/light and as a reminder of his station, Allah said to him:
" Ya Musa! have no FEAR. For truly in my presence, those called as messengers have NO FEAR ! Q27:10
And that is why fear and anxiety are stumbling block/darkness for the Salik. A guide with experience (Khidr) will help
expose your fears and also help in overcoming them, because what the sight beholds during ascension is tremendous indeed...
And with respect to his position/station, it does not befit Musa (A.S.) to have those layers of darkness hovering over him/his life.

It is interesting to note that his expectation from people did not reveal itself prior to being a prophet, when he helped the sisters and in a state
of dire need, rather, it manifested after he became a prophet of Allah and wasn't being chased for his dear life!
This goes to show that no one should rest on their laurels and think that they are safe or know it all, no matter the person's position.
Also, every situation, in ease or in difficulty, is a test from Allah, and as such, one should always be in a state of Muraqaba (vigilance).

May Allah be with us all, have mercy on us all and overlook our shortcomings, Amin.




Mashallah! Thanks for your detailed exposition, you never disappoint.

"Also, every situation, in ease or in difficulty, is a test from Allah, and as such, one should always be in a state of Muraqaba (vigilance)."

I really like this your conclusion. May Allah always help us to overcome our weaknesses and give us grace to act rightly be it ease or difficult amin. Jazakhumullahu khairan.

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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 9:22pm On Aug 20, 2022
ikupakuti:
,

Lols,

I‘ve never come across ibn. Al-arabi‘s exegesis of that hadith before. Did he write a book on those terms ?

But in regards to the quoted hadith, the class of wilayya described by the holy Prophet (s.a.w) there in, is the superior class (wilayyatul kubra), which comes after the completion of ma‘arifa & after individuality has been attained, @least from fardaniyya to qutbaniyyatul uzma.

Those are the ones who have access to محبة الذات , the unique divine love he‘s refering to.

The actual state he‘s refering to in which the individual self through self oblitration gets totaly absorbed in the “universal soul“ and exists no more in actuality, where & when there is “nothing“ left & that “nothing“ is God, then.

That state is momentarily accessible (hal) for the floor members of wilayyatul kubra but a permanent state (maqam) for the al-qutbul al-jami‘. Those qualities mentioned are strictly qutbaniyya‘s affair.

It was during a momentary seizure by that state, al-hallaj made that his “infamous“ declearation
.

Movado19 have you come across the details of al-hallaj story before?, an interesting one indeed that reveal the different spiritual state/awareness even among elites Sufis.
Re: ...... by movado19: 4:37am On Aug 21, 2022
LadunaI:

Mashallah! Thanks for your detailed exposition, you never disappoint.

"Also, every situation, in ease or in difficulty, is a test from Allah, and as such, one should always be in a state of Muraqaba (vigilance)."

I really like this your conclusion. May Allah always help us to overcome our weaknesses and give us grace to act rightly be it ease or difficult amin. Jazakhumullahu khairan.


Alhamdulillah.
Amin Ya Rabb.

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Re: ...... by movado19: 5:47am On Aug 21, 2022
LadunaI:


Movado19 have you come across the details of al-hallaj story before?, an interesting one indeed that reveal the different spiritual state/awareness even among elites Sufis.


Al-Hallaj was truly a Wali of Allah who got inebriated by the Divine Presence!
Surely, the things which he uttered can be classed as violation of Sharia, and rightly so!
He was a "mad" man/lunatic to the outer world (as is normally the case) but to those who know what it means to "taste"
AL HAQQ AL YAQIN, they understood him perfectly.

Q08:17 was what was continuously being displayed in his life and utterances, which disrupts normalcy.
Some have actually classed him as a MAJZUB, because these kinds of people when followed, can lead others
to depart from their faith, hence the saying: "Al Majzub La Ya Murshida." such people cannot see Allah's creation as all they see in ONLY Allah.They cannot guide others to become Arif bi'llah as they are not Kamil shaikh/ Wali Kamil , meaning that there should be a perfect balance of shariah and haqiqqah...Al-Hallaj's case was an overbearing domination of haqiqqah reality which seemed as if it was going against the shariah. He was a Majzub Salik.
The are so many Wali Allah who experience profound realities yet are able to keep it together...this is an aspect of the nature of one's soul composition, which is another matter entirely...

Allah's promise in the hadith qudsi below became fulfilled in the life of Al Hallaj as:

"...When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask something]of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about seizing the soul of My faithful servant - he hates death and I hate to hurt him.”
- Bukhari

In essence:
“So remember Me and I will remember you.
Be thankful to Me, and never ungrateful.”
- Quran 2:152.


Al-Hallaj was a consumate Zaakir who got completely engulfed and in a constant state of fanaa and in such a state, ones speech/utterance is hard to digest by the public as what is said is a direct witnessing, hence the need not to divulge what one sees/witnesses WITHOUT the permission ITHN of Allah to do so, else His creation will come against you, which was the case of Al-Hallaj!

May Allah sanctify him and wipe off his errors and grant him the highest level of Jannah in the company of the Lovers of Allah, Amin.

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Re: ...... by SultanaZahraa95(f): 7:21am On Aug 21, 2022
LadunaI:


Movado19 have you come across the details of al-hallaj story before?, an interesting one indeed that reveal the different spiritual state/awareness even among elites Sufis.

Assalamualaikum wa ramatullahi wa barakathuhu brothers and sisters. I have been following this thread and received much benefit. Alhamdulilah. I am a new Muslim convert and Sufi and I have had my fair share of trials. I'm currently experiencing something so great that shakes my Iman but subhanallah. I tried to reach you and other notable people on this thread for spiritual guidance. Please email me.

Also can any of you reply this? How can one break of spiritual subjugation? A Muslim and non Muslims used both Islamic and diabolical powers to subjugate my spirit, soul and Qareen for years. I recently discovered but I have suffered so much physical abuse by invisible entities who I know are both human and demons.

I know a bit about demonism before I converted because as a child I use to see visions, have dreams that come to pass, know things before they happen, have knowledge of things I have never come in contact with before. But all these gifts stopped at age 18. I also used to know and still know when angels and jinn are in a place but I don't see them, I feel them. I am also clairvoyant, and clairaudiant.

I used to think I am abiku because I have died 5 times in my life as a child and it stopped. No sacrifice was offered to jinn. So I was told. I also thought I was emere because I had dreams of water spirits and rulers telling me to take my position as their head.

Similarly I see myself in heaven as the leader of women from different races but I run away and they put an interim leader while telling me that I am supposed to rule them. The women in top positions try to punish and force me.

Also, I see dreams of high old witches angry but calling me their boss and I should lead them but I run away refusing. Since I became Muslim and a Sufi at that I have seen hell and spiritual wotowoto that I can not describe. Mouth weak me. So please help Alhaji Emeritus, Molvado19, Ladunsl, EmekaRaj, Empire. Epp edakun, what to do and please check your emails.

P.S: I have gone to imams and Alfas but they do shirk. They all say to offer sacrifice to water jinns. I refused. The others pretended to be Sunnah with no shirk but did the worse to me. I had to run away from them. I had no one to talk to as I have a phobia for Imam, Alfas and Sheikhs now o. So from your knowledge advise a sister. My email is: sultanafatimazahraa @ g.m.a.i.l.c.o.m

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Re: ...... by Alhajiemeritus: 10:05am On Aug 21, 2022
SultanaZahraa95:


Assalamualaikum wa ramatullahi wa barakathuhu brothers and sisters. I have been following this thread and received much benefit. Alhamdulilah. I am a new Muslim convert and Sufi and I have had my fair share of trials. I'm currently experiencing something so great that shakes my Iman but subhanallah. I tried to reach you and other notable people on this thread for spiritual guidance. Please email me.

Also can any of you reply this? How can one break of spiritual subjugation? A Muslim and non Muslims used both Islamic and diabolical powers to subjugate my spirit, soul and Qareen for years. I recently discovered but I have suffered so much physical abuse by invisible entities who I know are both human and demons.

I know a bit about demonism before I converted because as a child I use to see visions, have dreams that come to pass, know things before they happen, have knowledge of things I have never come in contact with before. But all these gifts stopped at age 18. I also used to know and still know when angels and jinn are in a place but I don't see them, I feel them. I am also clairvoyant, and clairaudiant.

I used to think I am abiku because I have died 5 times in my life as a child and it stopped. No sacrifice was offered to jinn. So I was told. I also thought I was emere because I had dreams of water spirits and rulers telling me to take my position as their head.

Similarly I see myself in heaven as the leader of women from different races but I run away and they put an interim leader while telling me that I am supposed to rule them. The women in top positions try to punish and force me.

Also, I see dreams of high old witches angry but calling me their boss and I should lead them but I run away refusing. Since I became Muslim and a Sufi at that I have seen hell and spiritual wotowoto that I can not describe. Mouth weak me. So please help Alhaji Emeritus, Molvado19, Ladunsl, EmekaRaj, Empire. Epp edakun, what to do and please check your emails.

P.S: I have gone to imams and Alfas but they do shirk. They all say to offer sacrifice to water jinns. I refused. The others pretended to be Sunnah with no shirk but did the worse to me. I had to run away from them. I had no one to talk to as I have a phobia for Imam, Alfas and Sheikhs now o. So from your knowledge advise a sister.
Wa alaykum Salam Warahmtulah. I can see you are trying to send a message, but I do not have access to this email.
From your descriptions above you might need Ruqyah.
Re: ...... by SultanaZahraa95(f): 12:08pm On Aug 21, 2022
Alhajiemeritus:

Wa alaykum Salam Warahmtulah. I can see you are trying to send a message, but I do not have access to this email.
From your descriptions above you might need Ruqyah.

Jazakallah Khairan. I want to do ruqyah but I'm presently not in Nigeria. Can ruqyah be done from a distance? My email is: sultanafatimazahraa @ g.m.a.i.l.c.o.m
Re: ...... by movado19: 12:40pm On Aug 21, 2022
SultanaZahraa95:


Please email me.
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Wa Alaikum Salam.

Sorry I didn’t receive your email.
Could you kindly resend?
And yes, @ Alhajiemeritus is right that you may need Ruqyah.
You want to be physically present when it is being done and not absent because proximity matters in things like that.

May Allah ease things for you, Amin.
Re: ...... by SultanaZahraa95(f): 12:53pm On Aug 21, 2022
movado19:


Wa Alaikum Salam.

Sorry I didn’t receive your email.
Could you kindly resend?
And yes, @ Alhajiemeritus is right that you may need Ruqyah.
You want to be physically present when it is being done and not absent because proximity matters in things like that.

May Allah ease things for you, Amin.





Ameen. For now I can't be present. Is there anything I can do for now? Like special prayers? The humans harming me are very wicked and stubborn. From my experiences and dreams Allah revealed to me, I know their names though I don't remember physical contact with them. They hold grudge of something I didn't know I did. I did Astagfirullah several times and soul search but I realized jealousy and fear was the problem and their motivation.

Once this humans are dealt with and removed physically and spiritually the jinn and attack will stop. That's what Allah has shown me several times. But I do not know the exact prayer to do because they are a mixture of Muslims and celestial church people and true muslims are afraid of them and they blasphemy the names of Allah and say Allah cannot do anything for me. I do not give up and I keep trusting Allah and I have seen the power of Allah but I need guidance in my prayers. So once Allah teaches these humans a lesson, the jinn goes too.

So I need a prayer for the humans. All the Alfas I consulted said so too but for the fact that they tried to harm me too. So the problem inshallah is wicked human holding grudge for nothing I did. They just want me to be useless and unsuccessful and to control my spirit.

I don't know how else to send messages on nairaland. Please send me an email via this email address: sultanafatimazahraa @ g.m.a.i.l.c.o.m that way I can reply you. Please anyone who can help me, send me an email with this email address so I can explain further.

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