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Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:12am On Aug 15, 2022 |
If you can think and make things better just as God did by creating life and making it meaningful then you are a god. That's why God forbids humans from making images of flying, creeping, see or other creatures nor bowing to them {Exodus 20:1-5} because we are created in the image of God while all those creatures can't make any form of improvement in the way they do things. Humans keep making improvements because we are created in the image of God! Genesis 1:26 So we are gods! Psalms 82 2 Likes |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 7:40am On Aug 21, 2022 |
Why didn't any of the apostles call us gods? Or do you know better than all of them? Do you know better than Jesus also? MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 8:24am On Aug 21, 2022 |
There teaching of humans being smaller gods is actually of pagan origin. It is a gnostic teaching not of christ. There is nowhere in the Bible that says if you are born again you are a God, this teaching is a lie from the devil The word 'gods' used for the judges in Isreal is metaphoric rather than literal just like calling someone 'a goat' it does not mean that person is really a goat but is very stubborn as a goat. So many false teachers takes the bible out of context and forms demonic doctrine, the end of such doctrine is goddlessness and immorallities. 2 Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:56am On Aug 21, 2022 |
knowingChrist: As God's children each human is a god but there is a clause the only reason why we are gods is to make things better just as God created us in His image on the earth and told us to subdue it {Genesis 1:26-28} we must not set standards for others {Genesis 2:17} all those setting standards for their fellow humans have become rebellious so they are the gods that God's judgment is coming up against them {Daniel 2:44 compare to John 10:34-35} therefore when such once fall in death {Psalms 82:6} they will not be remembered {Psalms 9:17} WHY? Because unlike Moses and Jesus who were also gods these rebellious ones seek their own glory not that of the Almighty who made us in His image! John 8:28 Thanks! 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 12:29pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Jump up and down the scriptures to pick averse that suit ur logic will lead to destruction. This is what Satan did when he tempted Jesus. He was jumping up and down and picking verse at random. Learn to read the scriptures pls. You're selling a can without water in it. May God help you. MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:49pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
knowingChrist: This is your question: Are we really Gods? So if you already have a preconceived thought on the topic you supposed to go straight up to what you have in mind instead of asking others what they think about the question. From what the Bible said i will quote: And God said, Let us make man in our IMAGE, after our LIKENESS: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26 Regarding other creatures God said: And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:21 So if God's word refer to the firstborn image of God {Colossians 1:15} as God {John 1:1} what then is man who is also created in God's image? Well the Creator never refer to animals as his children but regarding Adam God's word called him His son {Luke 3:38} because Adam was created with the ability to make things better unlike other creatures who has continued to exist and live the same way throughout their generations man has created lots of things like cars that can move faster than the cheetah, planes that can fly faster than eagles, submarines that can convey hundreds of people from one continent to another continent which the largest whale can't do, skyscrapers that's as tall as mountains, telecommunications, internet, electricity, automobiles and many more while other creatures just remain the way they are. Well if you feel it's just a coincidence then i don't the reason why man can do all these is because we are created in the image of God so we are gods. The one and only problem we have is trying to rule as in set standards for our fellowman which God forbids us from doing! Genesis 2:17 May you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Kobojunkie: 1:58pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
knowingChrist:Not trying to hold brief for anyone , but according to Jesus Christ "godhood" is only attained by those who diligently do that commanded by Jesus Christ - John 8 vs 31 - 35 - probably until the very end - Matthew 24 vs 12-13 & Mark 13 vs 13. Only those who diligently do the will of God can become a Son of God. It isn't necessarily something a man pronounces on Himself but one that God Himself announces to the one who has attained it instead. 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 5:12pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
It's a forum and intend to learn even as i intend to teach plus, there's a popular narrative like yours where pastors are deceiving people that they're gods, in defiance of their place as the sons of God. So i asked the question to that i might break this table of lies that you're standing on. Dear max. i'll advice you take some time to study but i know we're in the end times when people don't study to know the truth, everyone just speaks from the imagination of their mind and want to force this their imagination as the word of God. That said, if you so believe that man is made in the likeness of God, then we expect God to sin anytime soon bc Man sinned. if Adam was truly in the likeness of God, then i imagine you assume that a person called Satan made him fall and other stories you might have in your mind. So why can't this person also make God fall? if He could defeat Adam then he's suppose to defeat God too bc Adam is like God. remember for one is for all? the same principle that killed all and also saved all. If Adam was like God and satan could defeat him then satan can defeat God bc for one is for all. However, we know only Christ is the likeness of God and this is why Christ is without sin and why he defeated the deception and wickedness of Adam. Even so, we who are born to be the likeness of God too cannot sin 1 John 3:9, confirming that your Father Adam was not the likeness of God because he could sinned. I know you don't know these things I'm saying and would rather speak instead of learning but i'm taking time to reply you because of curious mind who might really want to learn. All that stories up in your mind are not biblical they're just falsehood that the world has ingrained in your mind so that your foundation is laid on sand instead of rock. Like many of your brothers whose foundation are like yours, all of you talk without learning and there's the wickedness of the pride of flesh that blinds them from learning. it's important that you start leaning the truth by first asking the right question. don't be led astray because your religion propels you towards doom. I'm a Christians quite alright, a fervent one by that matter but i know that this false Gospel is not of Christ so i have taken time to learn Christ so i might be like him, something impossible for Christians whose foundation is sand which is why there ar eso many Christians in the world yet unrighteousness is at its peak. I'll like to show you Christ if you let me Max, i'll like to take you through the scriptures by asking you question that might open ur mind. Let me leave you with this question since you're so sure that Genesis 1:26-28 is talking about Adam Are you aware that replenish just means renew, return to original form, refill, restore etc Why is there the need to renew a new world? why is there a need to refill a full world? i would imagine that you do not know that the meaning of replenish is to bring back to original form or return to original plan? why would God tell Adam to bring the world to original plan when the world had not fallen away? Does your mind ever tell you that this part of the bible is talking to Believers and not Adam? does your mind ever agree with you that Christ is the image and likeness of God? Colossians 1:15-17 Hebrews 1:3 2 Corinthians 4:4 Does your mind ever agree with anything the bible says? MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:42pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
knowingChrist: Do you agree with the scriptures that both Jesus and Moses were Gods? Exodus 7:1; John 1:1 If Jesus was God why did Satan tempt Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by xproducer: 6:56pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
"Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?" - Malachi 2:10 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." - James 2:19 "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." -Ephesians 4:6 |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 7:26pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Because I said, I am the Son of God. John 10:36 Go and argue with Jesus bc you know him more than he knows himself. Ogbeni says he's "the son of God" but one Max from nairaland says No he's God. I'll rather follow Jesus bc he's the light of the world than you bc i know you're confused and ignorant of the truth of God. Ok Mr max. here lies the end of this convo, goodbye. MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
knowingChrist: You missed the point with the highlighted there it's not me that says Jesus WAS a god rather it's APOSTLE John who wrote: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God. John 1:1 And at Exodus 7:1 we read: And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. So it's God's word that called humans "Gods" {Psalms 82:6} not Max! Farewell! 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by yourconstruct(m): 11:24pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Yes, we are gods. You can make yourself immortal. https://yourconstruct3..com/ If the hyperlink doesn't work properly, copy and paste below and remove the spaces. y o u r c o n s t r u c t 3 . b l o g s p o t . c o m |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by nencounter10: 4:47am On Aug 22, 2022 |
knowingChrist Yes Bible called Jesus God. We see this in John 1:1 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. If you read down the above chapter you will know that the Word there was referring to Jesus. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. We also see this in Philippians 2:5 Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: A child/ son of God is God. If God were to give birth to children, his children will be beings after his kind. John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. We are not children of God because we obey God. We are children of God because God fathered us. He gave birth to us. We came out of his loins. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but o[b]f God.[/b] James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Children are beings after the kind of their parents. A son/child of God is God. Note we are not gods but Gods. That was a translation error. In the original Hebrew text, what was translated gods in Psalm 82:6 is the Hebrew word Elohim. Which is the same word translated God in Genesis 1:1. The word translated gods in John 10:34 is the Greek word Theo which is the same word translated God in John 1:1. In fact, in John 10:34, the word Theo was capitalized in the original Greek text. What you need to ask yourself is this: " Did God father us?" , if yes, we are beings after his kind, we are Gods. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:53am On Aug 22, 2022 |
yourconstruct: When some wake up from their slumber with a preconceived thought they feel it's not to be disputed but then they come in contact with better understanding the next is bitterness. How can someone keep arguing blindly that the creatures made in the image of the Creator Himself are not gods when we can all see the results of CREATIVITY man has done on this planet? Isn't it the ability to create that made God's firstborn {Colossians 1:15-16} a God too? John 1:1 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 6:19am On Aug 22, 2022 |
nencounter10:Psalm 82 vv 6 was speaking about Israelities Judges or rulers. Elohim is sometimes used to describe magistrates or Judges of israel and also The logic "if God begot us then we are Gods" is flawed because spiritual birth is not like physical birth, those born of God do not become Gods, this is a false teaching propagate by false teachers. The Greek interpretation [b] does not distinguish between "a god and God". When a man becomes born again, his Spirit is reborn in the image of God, however this does not make him God. The image means a resemblance of God not the exact. One thing is the devil twist the word of God, when he said you shall be like God in the Garden of Eden he didn't specify in what way. Christians share in the divine nature in things like his holiness, righteousness,kindness,love etc This is the image of his son that is born in a saved person. 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 8:11am On Aug 22, 2022 |
As many as received him, to them he gave the power to be sons of God. How do you received Christ? Is it by disobedience to the word of God? What does it mean to be sons of God? Are you aware that a son does the will of his father. Never did the bible call believers gods, all the apsitles made it clear that we're the sons of God. Even Jesus called himself son of God. Jesus also say that unrighteousnes people who the word of God came to are gods and the bible makes it clear that jesus came to his own but his own received him not. Only unrighteous judges of this earth did the bible call the gods. Study this things holistically by reading from Genesis pls. Don't scheme around in the word of God to pick verses that suit you. Follow the thread from the beginning of the bible and you'll see the difference between gods and sons of God mean. Are you aware that Adam was the son of God in Genesis? Luke 3:38. Why did the serpent tell Eve that they'll become as gods if they disobey? Do you see the difference? Son of God is through obedience to the word of God but gods is through disobedience. We who believe in Jesus by obeying his commandment are the sons of God. We are born by the word of God and this why were the sons of God. But those whose Christianity is in their mouth while their righteousness is theirs and not that of God are gods. They know more than God and all his disciples. They create their own doctrines and live the way they want. They're gods. So I'll leave you here bc our destination is different.. We don't need to make this communication long than it should bc we're different. You're a god but I'm not. Let's respect our differences pls.. light and darkness don't have any business. Have a lovely day.. May the peace of Christ find you, and may the knowledge of his person come upon you through your obedience to his commandment. Amen. nencounter10: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by nencounter10: 9:49pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
Steep: Jesus Christ's proved the correct interpretation of Psalm 82: 6 is with reference to deity when he quoted it in John 10:34. He called God his father and the Jews tried to stone him. He asked why they were trying to stone him. They told him it was because you, a man, are calling yourself a deity. His response was that there was nothing with me, a man, calling myself deity after all God had called humans deity in the scripture. Jesus' correct interpretation of Psalm 82:6 proves that a man can be God. If you have ever read any of the prophesis of King David concerning Jesus in the Psalms. In many of them he seem to be talking about himself. Reference to them by Peter and Paul made it clear he was prophesying. Consider an example: Thou wilt not abandon my soul in hell, thou will not allow they holy one to see corruption. If you read that verse in context in the Psalm, you will conclude he was talking about himself, yet Peter, on the day of Pentecost gave the correct interpretation to mean he was referring to Christ. Similarly, contrary to the conclusion you came to on reading Psalm 82:6 in context, Jesus gave the correct interpretation in John 10:34 to mean calling men Gods. The assertion that if God begat us we are Gods is not flawed. It was the very reason the Jews nearly stoned jesus. It was the very reason they killed him. It stood to common sense to the Jews that if God were to have a son/child, his child will also be God because all beings give birth to children after their kind. Jesus in his reaction to the Jews in John 10 agreed with then. In stead of telling them that their conclusion was wrong, he instead said their was nothing wrong with him claiming to be God. It is not true that the Greek makes no distinction between Gods and gods. Greek language has but capital and small letters. The Greek language also has rules for capitalisation. They could have simply used a small letter in place of a capital letter in the word Theo. The Hebrew word Elohim is used exclusively in scriptures to refer to God. If you say this is not so, then give me a scriptural verse we're it is not so. I will readily prove you wrong. I have a copy of the original text. When a person is born again, he is born of God. He receives the exact same nature God has which Bible calls the Divine nature, that is, nature of deity(2 Peter 1:4). Also, he receives the exact same life God has called Eternal life. (1 John 5:11). If a person who is born of God has the exact same nature that God has, and the exact same life that God then he is definitely God. God has the Divine life, the life of Deity- Zoe. His children have have the Divine life , the life of Deity called Zoe. They are definitely Gods. You said spiritual birth is different from physical birth. That is true. Bible gave us the basic difference between spiritual birth and physical birth. John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Physical birth produces physical beings, spiritual birth produces spirit beings. God is a spirit, when he gives birth to children, his children are spirits ( who live in physical bodies). My advice to you is to consult different translations and the original text often when you study your Bible. It will make things clear to you. I suggest you start with John 1:13 for a start . You will see reason to change your mind. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 10:02pm On Aug 22, 2022 |
This is a well written material. For this I'll say welldone. However, your premises for this is incorrect and pardon me for saying this. Jesus says the scriptures called them gods bc they had already made themselves gods by creating their own ways and taking judgment by their own hands and not the standards of God. This is what Jesus was telling and it's the context of psalm 82. I don't know where you heard what you said but I'll advice you to study the topic again and ask yourself this: why didn't any of the apostles call us gods? Why did they refer to us as sons of God and not gods? Why did Adam who was the son of God wanted to be god? nencounter10: |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by nencounter10: 12:10am On Aug 23, 2022 |
knowingChrist: You are making me sound like a broken record. When a person calls himself a son/child of God, he is actually calling himself God That was the Crux of of the issue the Jews had with Jesus. All Jesus did was merely call God his father. The Jews took up stones to stone him because they knew that by if anyone called himself a child/son of God, he was by implication calling himself God. Jesus never contested nor corrected that conclusion, instead he corroborated it. Every time you call yourself a son of God, you are calling yourself God. I can tell for free that if this were back then in Jesus' days, all those Christian's who go about calling themselves children of God would get crucified like Jesus was crucified. Calling yourself a Son of God is the same as calling yourself God. So, each time the Bible calls us sons of God, it was actually calling us God. You said God called those people God's in Psalm 82:6 because they already called themselves God. That's not true. There is nothing in that chapter that suggest it. You write-ups are riddled with personal opinion and not Gods opinion. Since you can't wrap your mind around the fact of a child of God being God, you are going about twisting God's word with personal opinions to prove that that fact is not true. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Cordenify(m): 1:07am On Aug 23, 2022 |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by knowingChrist(m): 4:14am On Aug 23, 2022 |
calling yourself God is the same as calling yourself son of God? this is false.. and i'll advice you to see the bible as a whole and don't be a liar by breaking any part of it for a liar breaks the word of God and this is why satan took the bible out of context to tempt Jesus. If you say being a son of God is the same as God, why then did Adam and Eve eat the fruit? the serpent clearly told them that they'll be as gods if they eat. Let me explain to you pls, the serpent was telling the son of God that he'll be god if he eats. You see the difference now? Adam was created as the son of God. Sin made him god. Also, i know you've not really read so i'll help you. The Israelites have always been a proud people and called themselves gods and this is why they refuse to obey God. Jeremiah 2:31 has them saying they're lords and will not obey God. This is why those unrepentant people who met Jesus have a funny interpretation of Psalms. Remember he was talking to the Jews in that place, the same people the bible says rejected him Sinners are gods, but if you're say you're gods then i know you're one sinner or don't have a clue of what you're saying. Anyways, take some time to study pls. I know what you say is incorrect so i'll advice you to go into the book and stop reading the bible out of context pls. Psalm 82 is talking about judgment and God was talking to judges of the earth. Not this funny idea you have on your mind. nencounter10: 1 Like |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Janosky: 5:44am On Aug 23, 2022 |
Greek theos=a god/God. Greek lexicon 2316, pls go & confirm. 1Cor8:5,gods in heaven(spirits called angels)& gods on earth (men). 1Cor8:6,Ephe 3:14-15, God Almighty created them ALL. Deut10:17,Jehovah is the God of gods (Jesus,men &angels). Jn9:4.20:17.Acts3:13,follow Jesus to worship the God of Abraham. Jesus is a god,na him talk am,Jn10:34-36. A god is @Greek Jn10:33 not God,pls take note. The samething John is saying @Jn1:1. Shalom. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 6:23am On Aug 23, 2022 |
nencounter10:in John 10 vv 34, Jesus said they were called called "gods" the Greek word was theous not theou. However, what Jesus was saying was that, if people who recieved those words were called gods, then he could be called God in a much greater way. Jesus was saying he is more qualified to be called God than those people. It does not mean they were really God. let us see, what it means for men to be called elohim in the old testament. The first man to be called Elohim was Moses In exodus 7 vv 1. Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. The literally interpretation of "a god" is elohim which was used in Psalm 82. However what does it mean? Exodus 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God. This explains perfectly what it means for men to be called God. It means one who represent God. If you have ever read any of the prophesis of King David concerning Jesus in the Psalms. In many of them he seem to be talking about himself. Reference to them by Peter and Paul made it clear he was prophesying. Consider an example: Thou wilt not abandon my soul in hell, thou will not allow they holy one to see corruption. If you read that verse in context in the Psalm, you will conclude he was talking about himself, yet Peter, on the day of Pentecost gave the correct interpretation to mean he was referring to Christ. Similarly, contrary to the conclusion you came to on reading Psalm 82:6 in context, Jesus gave the correct interpretation in John 10:34 to mean calling men Gods.calling men gods, does not make them God. What you have there is not Christianity it is sometime else. The assertion that if God begat us we are Gods is not flawed. It was the very reason the Jews nearly stoned jesus. It was the very reason they killed him. It stood to common sense to the Jews that if God were to have a son/child, his child will also be God because all beings give birth to children after their kind. Jesus in his reaction to the Jews in John 10 agreed with then. In stead of telling them that their conclusion was wrong, he instead said their was nothing wrong with him claiming to be God.yeap the logic is flawed. Jesus was not claiming he is a god like them but rather he is a God more than them, note the difference. It is not true that the Greek makes no distinction between Gods and gods. Greek language has but capital and small letters. The Greek language also has rules for capitalisation. They could have simply used a small letter in place of a capital letter in the word Theo.please bring a an example of where a distinction was made. The Hebrew word Elohim is used exclusively in scriptures to refer to God. If you say this is not so, then give me a scriptural verse we're it is not so. I will readily prove you wrong. I have a copy of the original text.I have not said elohim is not used exclusively for God, (If I have said so it is an error,), it is also used for those representing God, such as the judges. When a person is born again, he is born of God. He receives the exact same nature God has which Bible calls the Divine nature, that is, nature of deity(2 Peter 1:4). Also, he receives the exact same life God has called Eternal life. (1 John 5:11). If a person who is born of God has the exact same nature that God has, and the exact same life that God then he is definitely God. God has the Divine life, the life of Deity- Zoe. His children have have the Divine life , the life of Deity called Zoe. They are definitely Gods.can you point out where in the scripture they receive the exact nature of God, hope you know there is a difference between "the nature of God" and the " the full nature of God"? Or " the image of God" and "the exact image of God"? You said spiritual birth is different from physical birth. That is true. Bible gave us the basic difference between spiritual birth and physical birth.All human beings are spirits in human body, does that mean all human beings are born of God? To be born of God does not mean you become a spirit, It means the spirit of man to be regenerated to the image of God. However, it does not mean to become God. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by nencounter10: 6:29pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
knowingChrist: You have said absolutely nothing. The Jews knew natively that if a man calls God his father,he is saying that he is God because if God were to have a child, his child will be God because children are the kind of their parents. If your father is human then you are human. If your father is God, then you are God. Jesus confirmed this belief in John 10. John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. Why is it difficult for people of this generation to realise that? One does not need to be a genious to realise this. For your information, there are several words that are translated son in scripture. The word son does not always refer to someone born as a result of reproduction. In you study the following scriptures you will realise that the word son refers to angels. KJV Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God [/b]came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Good news Genesis 6:2,4 [2]some of the [b]heavenly beings [/b]saw that these young women were beautiful, so they took the ones they liked. [4]In those days, and even later, there were giants on the earth who were descendants of human women and the [b]heavenly beings. They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago. KJV Daniel 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. Good news Daniel 3:25 [25]“Then why do I see four men walking about in the fire?” he asked. “They are not tied up, and they show no sign of being hurt — and the fourth one looks like an angel.” Also, Adam did not want to be God. He wanted to be like God. They are two different things.The promise that Satan made Adam and Eve is shown below KJV Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. AMPLIFIED Genesis 3:5 [5]For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing the difference between good and evil and blessing and calamity. Adam was not the son of God as a result of reproduction. We are sons of God as a result of reproduction. Adam did not want to become God, he wanted to be like God. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Janosky: 7:14pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
Steep:At the bolded comments in your post. No, Sir. Theou is the correct rendition at John 10:33, the Jews and John the apostle references Jesus Christ as a god (theou screenshots). Your Trinitarian mentors CHANGED theou @ John 10:33 because they were Trinitarians. John 10:33, Emphatic Diaglott Bible and NWT gives the correct rendition of that verse. Like John 10:33 like John 1:1. John 10:36,Is he not God's son? In a nutshell, Psalm 82:6 applied to Jesus Christ.
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Re: Are We Really Gods? by Steep(m): 7:37pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
Janosky:what are you saying? theous or Theous is the general word for God whether true, false or symbolic like men. Context is what determines which is which. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by tctrills: 8:34pm On Aug 23, 2022 |
knowingChrist:We are Children of God that on its own makes us 100% Gods. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Bubu4Sea: 1:18am On Aug 24, 2022 |
tctrills:Jesus gave us spirit of adoption, so its a gift not natural Romans 8:15 but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Since we are adopted, we are NO gODS. period |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by tctrills: 1:45am On Aug 24, 2022 |
Bubu4Sea:Claim down Act 17.29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Please do you know the difference between an offspring and an adopted child? We are God's. Zechariah 12 12 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Don't conclude from reading one verse. |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by Bubu4Sea: 1:52am On Aug 24, 2022 |
tctrills:God is worshiped, are you God? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Are We Really Gods? by tctrills: 9:40am On Aug 24, 2022 |
Bubu4Sea:Is Jesus Christ God? Revelation 3:21 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. |
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