Who was Yaldabaoth(Demiurge) ??

How important was he in what i'm about to talk about??

Yaldabaoth chief archon was believed to be an evil deity and creator of the material world.He was regarded as the Demiurge and false god who kept the souls trapped in physical bodies,imprisoned in the material universe.

The people who believed in these taught that there was a distinction between the Highest,Unknowable God and the Demi urge "creator" of the material universe.

They taught that the universe began with an Original,Unknowable God referred to as the parent

They considered the hebrew god of the old testament (Yahweh) as the false god,and the Unknown God the father of Jesus christ and creator of the spiritual world as the true,good God.They believed that Yaldabaoth kept people imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created

Yaldabaoth is the son of Sophia,she is the lowest Aeon
she wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way:she conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.

Her child was the "Demiurge",a misshapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike other heavenly beings.

Sophia immediately realized her horrible mistake and cast her child out of the PLEROMA

The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way

How was Yaldabaoth CREATED??

Yaldabaoth was the son of Sophia,she was the lowest Aeon
she wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way,so she conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.

Her child was the "Demiurge",a misshapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike other heavenly beings.

Sophia immediately realized her horrible mistake and cast her child out of the PLEROMA



The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way

From his mother he received the powers of light,but he used them for evil.He strove to hide the fact that there were any powers above himand proclaimed,"i am father and God,and there his mother sophia told him to tell the truth but he refused
[b]Who was Yaldabaoth(Demiurge) ??

How important was he in what i'm about to talk about??

Yaldabaoth chief archon was believed to be an evil deity and creator of the material world.He was regarded as the Demiurge and false god who kept the souls trapped in physical bodies,imprisoned in the material universe.

The people who believed in these taught that there was a distinction between the Highest,Unknowable God and the Demi urge "creator" of the material universe.

They taught that the universe began with an Original,Unknowable God referred to as the parent

They considered the hebrew god of the old testament (Yahweh) as the false god,and the Unknown God the father of Jesus christ and creator of the spiritual world as the true,good God.They believed that Yaldabaoth kept people imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created

Yaldabaoth is the son of Sophia,she is the lowest Aeon
she wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way:she conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.

Her child was the "Demiurge",a misshapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike other heavenly beings.

Sophia immediately realized her horrible mistake and cast her child out of the PLEROMA

The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way

How was Yaldabaoth CREATED??

Yaldabaoth was the son of Sophia,she was the lowest Aeon
she wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way,so she conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.

Her child was the "Demiurge",a misshapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike other heavenly beings.

Sophia immediately realized her horrible mistake and cast her child out of the PLEROMA



The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way

From his mother he received the powers of light,but he used them for evil.He strove to hide the fact that there were any powers above himand proclaimed,"i am father and God,and there his mother sophia told him to tell the truth but he refused
[/b]Who was Yaldabaoth(Demiurge) ??

How important was he in what i'm about to talk about??

Yaldabaoth chief archon was believed to be an evil deity and creator of the material world.He was regarded as the Demiurge and false god who kept the souls trapped in physical bodies,imprisoned in the material universe.

The people who believed in these taught that there was a distinction between the Highest,Unknowable God and the Demi urge "creator" of the material universe.

They taught that the universe began with an Original,Unknowable God referred to as the parent

They considered the hebrew god of the old testament (Yahweh) as the false god,and the Unknown God the father of Jesus christ and creator of the spiritual world as the true,good God.They believed that Yaldabaoth kept people imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created

Yaldabaoth is the son of Sophia,she is the lowest Aeon
she wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way:she conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.

Her child was the "Demiurge",a misshapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike other heavenly beings.

Sophia immediately realized her horrible mistake and cast her child out of the PLEROMA

The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way


YALDABOATH BELIEVES HE'S ALONE

The demiurge,now alone believed that he was the only being who had ever existed and created the material world out of his ignorance,foolishness and malevolence,trapping sparks of divinity within Adam and Eve along the way

From his mother he received the powers of light,but he used them for evil.He strove to hide the fact that there were any powers above himand proclaimed,"i am father and God,and there his mother sophia told him to tell the truth but he refused

Yaldaboath, master of fallen watchers.
Bwahahahah

Maynmann:
Yaldaboath, master of fallen watchers.
Bwahahahah

Lmao

SandraIkuboR:


Oh

Aka, Samael

But from what i know,according to the gnostics who our religion really started from/with

Yaldabaoth the chief archon was an evil deity and creator of the material world.He was regarded as the Demi urge and false god who keeps the souls trapped in physical bodies,imprisoned in the material universe

SandraIkuboR:
But from what i know,according to the gnostics who our religion really started from/with

Yaldabaoth the chief archon was an evil deity and creator of the material world.He was regarded as the Demi urge and false god who keeps the souls trapped in physical bodies,imprisoned in the material universe

How was yaldaboath created? Did they mention sophia?

The gnostics presented a distinction btw the highest,Unknowable God and the Demi urge "Creator" of the Material Universe.

They taught that the universe began with an original Unknowable God referred to as the parent

Maynmann:

How was yaldaboath created? Did they mention sophia?

Yes

SandraIkuboR:


Yes

How was yaldaboath created?

The gnostics considered the Hebrew God of the Old Testament(Yahweh) as the false god and the Unknown God the father of Jesus Christ and creator of the spiritual world,as the true good God.

Yaldabaoth keeps people imprisoned in the world full of pain and suffering that he created.

And Yes Yaldabaoth was the son of Sophia,who was part of the lowest Aeon

Maynmann:


How was yaldaboath created?

Sophia wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way.She conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.Her child was the "demi urge",a mis shapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike the other heavenly beings

She was so dizzy with love for the creative source that anytime she sees a brilliant shimmering light below,she flings herself down into darkness:mistakenly following what she believws to be her father's radiance ,fooled by a mere reflection.There in the abysmal unrealized potential of the world,she is trapped_seperated from the light,the spiritual realization

SandraIkuboR:


Sophia wanted to have a child,but went about it in the wrong way.She conceived without the involvement of her male partner or the approval of the father.Her child was the "demi urge",a mis shapen beligerent creature that was utterly unlike the other heavenly beings

Yeah exactly.
And who created sophia? Or where did she part from?
You know this sophia story was narrated in another way in the tanakh, when samuel was hearing voices in the temple. It was sophia that was speaking.

Maynmann:


Yeah exactly.
And who created sophia? Or where did she part from?
You know this sophia story was narrated in another way in the tanakh, when samuel was hearing voices in the temple. It was sophia that was speaking.

Oh okay
Sophia was created by the Supreme Unknown God whose identity was Unknown and who the gnostics believed Jesus was talking about

She was part of the Aeons and was the last of them all
The aeons were created by the Unknown God who no one really knew about

SandraIkuboR:
is it true that the christian God of the old testament was different from who jesus was really trying to tell us to call on to

While the God Jesus was really talking about was the Supreme God who No one knew of ie he was Original and Unknowable and that jesus was trying to save us from the one in the old testament....and that was why he was killed

And mind you,i'm part of the free masons in the uk and so are my parents??

Was this what you were taught in freemason's teachings? I mean are you confused as against the general knowledge of who Christians thought God was?

sharpwriter:

Was this what you were taught in freemason's teachings? I mean are you confused as against the general knowledge of who Christians thought God was?

I was not taught this in any free mason teaching
This was what the gnostics believed

Yes,some people saw it as being crazy and confused
but these were people whose teachings really influenced the christians as of today

In every Nonsense,there was always an atom of SENSE

SandraIkuboR:


Oh okay
Sophia was created by the Supreme Unknown God whose identity was Unknown and who the gnostics believed Jesus was talking about

She was part of the Aeons and was the last of them all
The aeons were created by the Unknown God who no one really knew about

Supreme unknown god inside “gnostic” lol
When was jesus born? When was Gnostic created?
Gnostic literally means knowledge and not afflicted with any religion.

Maynmann:

Supreme unknown god inside “gnostic” lol When was jesus born? When was Gnostic created? Gnostic literally means knowledge and not afflicted with any religion.

They wrote about him long before he was born Yes it's not affilated with any religion whatsoever
They believed in SPIRITUALITY not FAITH
Unlike the christians who believed in FAITH

SandraIkuboR:


They wrote about him long before he was born
Yes it's not affilated with any religion whatsoever

They believed in SPIRITUALITY not FAITH

Unlike the christians who believed in FAITH

Who wrote about him? In which book?
Gnostic literally means knowledge
“Gnostic” talking about unknown god, let us see

Maynmann:


Supreme unknown god inside “gnostic” lol
When was jesus born? When was Gnostic created?
Gnostic literally means knowledge and not afflicted with any religion.

Yes they believed in a Supreme unknown God who created everything but not the universe or the earth

And they never followed a set of rules or believed in faith like the christians

SandraIkuboR:


Yes they believed in a Supreme unknown God who created everything but not the universe or the earth

And they never followed a set of rules or believed in faith like the christians

Gnostic deals with knowledge not beliefs.
Where are you reading all these?

If he’s unknown how did they know so much about him?

Maynmann:

Who wrote about him? In which book? Gnostic literally means knowledge “Gnostic” talking about unknown god, let us see

PLUTO did❗❗❗ But he's was different

SandraIkuboR:


PLUTO did❗❗❗
But he's was different

Pluto means Gnostics?
What are you saying?

Are you talking about pluto beliefs?

Maynmann:


Gnostic deals with knowledge not beliefs.
Where are you reading all these?

So who were they always calling on then??
Stop arguing with me,and do your findings PROPERLY

Yes they believed in the existence of a supreme being but believed that he was the original unlike the christians that believed in FAITH,HEAVEN and so on

Maynmann:

Pluto means Gnostics? What are you saying?
Are you talking about pluto beliefs?

i never said pluto means Gnostics....Pleasseeeee
i'm out

SandraIkuboR:


So who were they always calling on then??
Stop arguing with me,and do your findings PROPERLY

Gnostics calling on who?
Who are these gnostics?

Go and start reading, YOU HAVE NEVER RESEARCH A BIT.

SandraIkuboR:


i never said pluto means Gnostics....Pleasseeeee

i'm out

So why did you bring pluto in?

Run run with your lies.

Maynmann:


So why did you bring pluto in?

Run run with your lies.

Stop being so IGNORANT
Why would i want to lie ??

Stop quoting me please

SandraIkuboR:


Stop being so IGNORANT
And why would i want to lie ??

Stop quoting me please

You are the IGNORANT one, saying dumb and baseless things without evidence.
You want to lie so you can feel good in your ignorance.
All where you are reading your jargons is it from pluto?

Stop quoting me too.

SandraIkuboR:


I was not taught this in any free mason teaching
This was what the gnostics believed

I know about the gnostic beliefs, and I wonder why they had to be wiped off. Also, why some of their texts were burnt leaves one wondering. Furthermore, even some Bible books were hidden until some later were revealed as deuterocaninicals and apocryphals. There are others like "the assumption of Moses", "gospel of Thomas" etc.

Now, this Thomas's gospel was found alongside some gnostic texts in Nag hammadi library in 1945 which leaves much to desire and worry about (for those seeking truth, knowledge anyways).

All of these things makes one question : Why?

My personal opinion is that there are so much hidden secrets and knowledge which were deliberately done to keep some sets of people or all humanity in darkness to the benefit of a selected few. And also, the real truth about our world is unavailable or scarce in this realm. Also, most people arrogantly think they know all (especially Christians and Muslims) about their religion, this realm and the unseen realm and after life but they are massively ignorant.

Yes, we know there is a God, but we all don't really know what or who he is. Perhaps till the reality of the great beyond comes!

sharpwriter:

I know about the gnostic beliefs, and I wonder why they had to be wiped off. Also, why some of their texts were burnt leaves one wondering. Furthermore, even some Bible books were hidden until some later were revealed as deuterocaninicals and apocryphals. There are others like "the assumption of Moses", "gospel of Thomas" etc.

Now, this Thomas's gospel was found alongside some gnostic texts in Nag hammadi library in 1945 which leaves much to desire and worry about (for those seeking truth, knowledge anyways).

All of these things makes one question : Why?

My personal opinion is that there are so much hidden secrets and knowledge which were deliberately done to keep some sets of people or all humanity in darkness to the benefit of a selected few. And also, the real truth about our world is unavailable or scarce in this realm. Also, most people arrogantly think they know all (especially Christians and Muslims) about their religion, this realm and the unseen realm and after life but they are massively ignorant.

Yes, we know there is a God, but we all don't really know what or who he is. Perhaps till the reality of the great beyond comes!

If you’ve read the book of thomas, you’d have know who this “god” is.

Maynmann:


You are the IGNORANT one, saying dumb and baseless things without evidence.
You want to lie so you can feel good in your ignorance.
All where you are reading your jargons is it from pluto?

Stop quoting me too.

Are you gnostic??....No
Whereas i'm one

So what makes you think i'm reading all these from somewhere,when it's what i practice