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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by orisa37: 8:27am On Sep 02, 2022
Jonathan was astute and brilliant in this instance. He applied "UDI FORMULA" SOLUTION STRAIGHT and won.

ASUU is the Way to all universities. They are the accredited Standards of unionism strikes and settlements. Any other way is SHARIA STANDARDS.

"The affected ministers such as the minister of education, labour and other relevant ministers are expected to face ASUU, and then report to the president".

No. That's SHARIA STANDARDS AND IT'S CHAOTIC PUERILE AND MEDIOCRE.

This is the twenty first century and not USMAN DAN FODIO ERA. NIGERIA IS NOT MACBAN LAND.
NIGERIA BELONGS TO THE AFENIFERE OHANAEZE PANDEF MIDDLE BELT AND AREWA.

BUHARI CANNOT APPOINT HIS NEPHEW AS THE CEO OF THE FEDERAL PRINTING AND MINTING COMPANY.

THAT WILL BE FATHERISM, NEPOTISM FAVORISM AND IDIOTICAL DEVIATION FROM NORMAL.

MAY GOD DELIVER NIGERIA FROM BMF-BOKOISWA.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Josephkabila12: 8:28am On Sep 02, 2022
IboHausaYoruba:
I feel ASUU are too self centered, the economy situations all over the world do not support such bogus requests at this umpteenth time. ASUU has never fought for the welfare of Nigerian students since i was born all they always ask for is salary, salary and salary increment. Let them resign in droves, we've got many brighter minds out there looking for opportunities.
A lot of PhD holders sef

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by tnerro1(m): 8:28am On Sep 02, 2022
No work no pay, simple

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by hotseat: 8:28am On Sep 02, 2022
Op, you appear one-sided and biased in your "analysis" of the ongoing ASUU strike.



First you should be reminded that the university is primus inter pares and the zenith of education.



This is the standard place accorded the university across the globe except Naija.



The sorry state of Nigerian universities is a calculated attempt by past and present administrations to bastardize tertiary education, particularly the universities, so as to make a political capital by sending their children and wards to foreign universities only to mock hapless and hopeless Nigerians on social media with photos of them with their their graduating children.




These are the same so-called leaders who ought to be held accountable for the rot in our educational system back home.



I salute the resolute spirit of ASUU ably piloted by the indefatigable Professor Osodeke, the Adams Oshiomole of ASUU, the Odogwu himself!




The FG must pay up to the last dime to serve as a deterrent that they owe the universities a duty to fund, equip and ensure smooth running of the system.




The bottom line is that it takes two to tangle!

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Softmirror: 8:29am On Sep 02, 2022
luizpippo:



Clowns.


It was during Prof Abdulrahman Oba's tenure lecturers were sacked for going on strike and they finally won at the supreme court in 2009 during the term of the Oloyede you are hyping.
They were reinstated and paid their salaries for 8years of doing no work.

Meanwhile they were already employed by private universities.



ASK YOURSELF WHY DIDN'T UNIVERSITY OF ILORIN UNDER PROFESSOR OLOYEDE JOIN THE NUMEROUS STRIKES SO AS TO GIVE MORAL SUPPORT TO THOSE LECTURERS WHO WERE BOOTED OUT FROM THE SAME UNIVERSITY. CAN YOU TELL US WHY? WHILE ALL OVER NIGERIA, ASUU WILL GO ON STRIKE STATING AMONG THEIR TERMS, THAT THOSE FEW LECTURERS SHOULD BE REINSTATED, UNI ILORIN ACADEMIC YEAR WAS MOVING SMOOTHLY THEY WERE NOT EVEN PARTICIPATING IN ASUU STRIKE.

SO, IT WAS THE SUPREME COURT THAT SETTLED THE MATTER AND NOT A BUNCH OF LUNATICS WHO CHOOSE TO GO ON STRIKE ACHIEVING NOTHING AT THE END OF THE DAY EXCEPT TIME WASTING LOL. THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

OH! THE GOT EMPLOYED IN PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES. WAS IT ONE OF THIS SO CALLED GLORIFIED SECONDARY SCHOOLS WE PRESENT AS UNIVERSITIES IN NIGERIA?
grin

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by sultan003(m): 8:29am On Sep 02, 2022
Oblivion34:
ASUU declared a strike in February 2022.

Every meeting with the Union has always ended in deadlock.

The union, however, stood its ground and claims not to shift grounds until all of its demands are met.

Meanwhile, the union president kept referring to how the government has seized their salaries to influence their decisions and stance.

This is the month of September 2022 and the government has met more than 60% of the union demands.

All the striking unions already called off strike the past month after a brief meeting with the government.

ASUU has refused to call off the strike because the Federal government is not willing to pay them their 6 months salary arrears.

They've however been very tactical with the strike time frame. At first, they declared one month strike, then kept increasing the time frame while making it look as if they were willing to call off the strike in good faith.

They declared an indefinite strike after the government had met 60% of their frivolous demands.

Before the federal government thinks about paying the union their 6 months arrears, think about the effect it will have.

ASUU is known for declaring strikes every year because they often get paid before they resume back to class.



Where is it done that a union will declare 6 months strike, and still be expecting a salary for work not done?

There is without a doubt that the union has lost the sympathy of 80% of most Nigerians, and the only thing stopping students from declaring them public enemy No.1 in the educational sector is because of "fear"

If the federal government decides to pay them today, nothing will stop them from declaring a 3-5 years strike tomorrow!!!



ASUU is failing to realize that nobody is happy with the present-day government.

Declaring over 3 months of strike while expecting pay for work not done is selfish, and unjustifiable.

In a sane world, a union is expected to press its demands for a maximum of 3 months before resuming back to classes.

Before declaring an indefinite strike; the union claim they are not going to make up for the lost months if the government fails to pay them

No matter what happens, students will always be at the receiving end.

During our time, lecturers were so inconsiderate after calling off 4 months ASUU strike. They started exams immediately as if we were the cause of the strike/fight.

The bolded part has always been the tradition of ASUU. They don't make up for all the lost months.

"ASUU claims the strike is a sacrifice for the generation to come." They should also be willing to sacrifice their one-year salary for the generation to come.

Paying ASUU will mean more subscriptions to more strikes in the nearest future.

Not paying them their 6 months strike will make them more reasonable before declaring another strike in the nearest future,
(II) It will enable them to give more listening hears to what the government has to offer quicker, rather than standing on what they want!



I am #Oblivion


There is nothing like work not done in the university academic system, because whenever the strike is called off all those semesters and session paused will be resumed and concluded before a new session is started.

So the work is still done, except when those semesters and sessions are cancelled that is when work is not done

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Josephkabila12: 8:32am On Sep 02, 2022
No work no pay. Also they shouldn't be paid for that six months they didn't work.

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by alimiadedayo1: 8:36am On Sep 02, 2022
loko50:


Keep writing mumu grammar. Unjustifiable kill you there! Instead of you to put pressure on the government you are typing bs. I guess you must have many carry overs or probably a dropout before you can be dishing out baseless and sentimental comments just like this. Olodo!
infact I was just shaking my head when I read his article a youth supporting this present Government is as wicked as the government and a clown for that matter

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 8:37am On Sep 02, 2022
Revolution2022:
What about the lawmakers who will go on recess for 3 months or more and they will be paid their jumbo salaries in full?Bihar will travel out of Nigeria for medical tourism for many months and he will be paid his salary in full.Buhari is the minister of petroleum.What has he been doing as a minister and he is receiving fat salaries in that self-.appointment
So because of all that u said above it is now justifiable for government to pay Assu 6 months salary of job not done. Two wrongs never makes a right. If government is continues to run this ways then it will just collapse one day and u will be one of the first to start shouting and causing ur leaders. Even Po become president, this lecturers will still go on strike by scamming govt and still wants to be paid.

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 8:40am On Sep 02, 2022
sultan003:



There is nothing like work not done in the university academic system, because whenever the strike is called off all those semesters and session paused will be resumed and concluded before a new session is started.

So the work is still done, except when those semesters and sessions are cancelled that is when work is not done
So work is done by quickly rushing students to examination table just after one month of resumption. Paying them amount to scamming millions of Nigerians wch include u and I. By next year they will still strike because it is a norms to them and they know government will pay them

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 8:43am On Sep 02, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Nigeria is a funny country . FG will boldly tell u that it does not have the financial muscle to improve the education sector as much as ASUU are demanding , yet the same FG keeps establishing new federal universities and upgrading some FG owned polytechnics to Universities. U do not have enough money to run the existing universities to world standard , yet u are establishing more universities …..
This is not about financial running of the university but about the financial runnings of ASUU pocket. They kept on demanding for more money every year

No be juju be that ?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 8:45am On Sep 02, 2022
loko50:
I wonder how old you are and if you have knowledge of what ASUU is requesting for. Your biased opinion is solely based on witheld salaries but you failed to mention the renegotiation of the current salary. How can workers be on same salary since 2009? It would be better if you can provide a more general view that this monolithic approach. This make you look like someone sponsored by the government.
Liers u better very claims b4 coming to post any thing on social media.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by kafeii123: 8:45am On Sep 02, 2022
Foolishness...ASUU didn't start the strike because of unpaid salaries...the strike wasn't because of unpaid salaries... even if you pay the salaries..ASUU would still not resume unless the issues that caused the strike in the first place.. become resolved...

If you will punish ASUU for maintaining the strike...then you should also include everyone in the ministries of labor... and education... for letting the strike go on this far...yet not resolving anything....

After all ASUU had concluded talks with the government's teams... before the minister of education now suddenly came up with a sham decree that negates all the terms of the concluded agreement
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by sultan003(m): 8:47am On Sep 02, 2022
IboHausaYoruba:
I feel ASUU are too self centered, the economy situations all over the world do not support such bogus requests at this umpteenth time. ASUU has never fought for the welfare of Nigerian students since i was born all they always ask for is salary, salary and salary increment. Let them resign in droves, we've got many brighter minds out there looking for opportunities.

ASUU is fighting for everybody, but you guys choose to believe otherwise..

What is NANS doing for the students?

When the FG came up with a proposal to increase school fees in all federal Universities to over 1m for Arts and 2m for Sciences, no one said anything ooo, even the students no talk, it was ASUU that rejected the proposal.

ASUU fought for tetfund, needs etc and got it, everybody is benefiting from state universities to federal and state polytechnics and colleges of education, no one will talk about that oo..

I will not talk about ippis.

To me ASUU is fighting too many battles for others that are not grateful, ASUU should simply focus on federal Universities and leave others to fight and fend for themselves.
Ofcourse they will still go back and copy ASUU's template.

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 8:51am On Sep 02, 2022
princeade86:
students are still enjoying home. Their parents are still enjoying seen them staying at home with them and helping them do one or two things. If not, it doesn't cost students to troop out and stage a massive protest against government by delaying their destiny. I don't know why people are blaming ASUU for the strike, while in every sectors of government, billions of naira are missing without traces. Is unfair. If Nigeria labor Congress can hold government tight like ASUU, by now, Nigeria
would have better. But their own sector already compromise with bad leadership.
So the government should just give whatever money demanded by ASUU to them and any time they come for more money they should be given. U must be a good leader and is that how u run the affairs of ur home to start with. If student protest against the government and govt pays them then what has change in the system. Does it mean they will not strike again b4 those student graduate. They will just start using students as tools to fight for there pocket.

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by sultan003(m): 8:51am On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

So work is done by quickly rushing students to examination table just after one month of resumption. Paying them amount to scamming millions of Nigerians wch include u and I. By next year they will still strike because it is a norms to them and they know government will pay them



Okay, so cancelling it and starting a new session is the best way forward then..
Otherwise suggest the best solution

FYI, no one is going to rush anyone.. those session will go on normally, except there will be no holidays

If you schooled abroad and schooled in a Nigerian federal University, you will understand what is going on..
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by TenQ: 8:53am On Sep 02, 2022
Privatepart00:


They are been paid 27th of every month since the strike started. PRODA falls under this category yet all their staffs are getting paid while on strike.
FG is owning all staffs in federal universities their salary arrears of 2022 . Those ones suspended their strike to have something in their pocket. Let FG withdraw the salary arrears on fixed deposit and pay. That’s how they dragged new minimum wages areas for a year before they finally paid in May 2022.
The FG Unfortunately consist of civil and public servants who frustrate their colleagues in other sectors simply because they feel they cannot be beneficiaries of such increments.

If NLC was organised like ASUU or NMA, their strikes would be more effective
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Haywhy3579: 9:00am On Sep 02, 2022
sultan003:




Okay, so cancelling it and starting a new session is the best way forward then..
Otherwise suggest the best solution

FYI, no one is going to rush anyone.. those session will go on normally, except
If you schooled abroad and schooled in a Nigerian federal University, you will understand what is going on..

I schooled in a public university and i withness ASUU strike first hand. The lecturers always come back to class rooms to rush students and the school also shorten there calendar and give like a week holiday between semesters. So it still doesn’t justify the fact that the lecturer will do six month work in 2 months and now collect 8 months salaries with 2 month job

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by TenQ: 9:01am On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

So the government should just give whatever money demanded by ASUU to them and any time they come for more money they should be given. U must be a good leader and is that how u run the affairs of ur home to start with. If student protest against the government and govt pays them then what has change in the system. Does it mean they will not strike again b4 those student graduate. They will just start using students as tools to fight for there pocket.
ASUU is not asking for more money. ASUU is simply asking that the signed agreements between ASUU and the FG be honoured!

Is there anything wrong with insisting that a signed agreement be honoured?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by garfield1: 9:15am On Sep 02, 2022
fergie001:
My dear Oblivion,

You should have mentioned the demands and name the ones the FG has fulfilled.

ASUU should have sense na.it is obvious that their demands would not be met by this outgoing govt.let them take whatever is being offered and strike once a new govt is in
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by princeade86(m): 9:44am On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

So the government should just give whatever money demanded by ASUU to them and any time they come for more money they should be given. U must be a good leader and is that how u run the affairs of ur home to start with. If student protest against the government and govt pays them then what has change in the system. Does it mean they will not strike again b4 those student graduate. They will just start using students as tools to fight for there pocket.
but they can loot the money right?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Heterodox(m): 9:45am On Sep 02, 2022
The OP is just one of many bastards around.



Are you okay with the useless graduates Nigeria education system is producing?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by fergie001: 10:15am On Sep 02, 2022
garfield1:


ASUU should have sense na.it is obvious that their demands would not be met by this outgoing govt.let them take whatever is being offered and strike once a new govt is in
What is been offered them?
That's what I was asking him and now I am asking you!
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by galantjoe(m): 10:24am On Sep 02, 2022
Nauttyprof:
The OP writes as if he is a foreigner. Not paying the 6 months Arrears will extend the strike and the government will have no option but to pay for more months.

Our politicians do nothing and yet get paid and receive several allowances. Did anybody query our senators when they didn't meet the number of seating expected of them? Yet, they collected all salaries and allowances due to them. Did anybody query our politicians who leave their duties to travel just for personal gains? Yet, they get fully paid.

We need to start asking questions. ASUU on their part is fighting for a just course. Our educational system is absolutely rubbish. Equipment used in laboratories are of 18th century when we are in 21st century. Must we continue this way? One of the reasons these same politician run to other countries for medical treatment is basically due to the foundation - poor educational system. They don't trust our professionals and it is not just about the facilities. We keep blaming ASUU but we fail to attack the government whose priority isn't about education but cattle ranching, inflated infrastructure and many other wrong allocations from the budget. If all the figures padded into the infrastructure project are gathered, this would have solved many issues in the educational system.

stop comparing career civil servants such as ASUU members who spent up to 50years in office with 4-year-term politicians that spent fortunes to get elected.

the moment one is trying to make this world fair that will be moment it will create endless crisis. life is not fair. not equating everything. some senior private university lecturers are being N100k but their counterpart in federal are being N600k. is it fair.

ASUU is greedy and gluttony

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Niklaus398: 10:42am On Sep 02, 2022
blackpanda:


So ASUU did not strike during other regime abi Mtscheeeew
Count the amounts of months ASUU strike doing others rigime and count that of APC ...apc have broken the record. Useless party. Na God go punish them and their president there

Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Niklaus398: 10:48am On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

So work is done by quickly rushing students to examination table just after one month of resumption. Paying them amount to scamming millions of Nigerians wch include u and I. By next year they will still strike because it is a norms to them and they know government will pay them
why should dey govt delay the inevitable? We all know they're gonna pay ASUU that money one way or the other so why stress it and take students time?
Fg will still pay more than half of their salaries either way, so it is better they begin now.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by LORDCYPRESS(m): 10:49am On Sep 02, 2022
fergie001:
My dear Oblivion,

You should have mentioned the demands and name the ones the FG has fulfilled.

Mr oblivion...(op)

Pls answer this question sincerely.

Since you only know how to support evil...

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by LORDCYPRESS(m): 10:56am On Sep 02, 2022
garfield1:


ASUU should have sense na.it is obvious that their demands would not be met by this outgoing govt.let them take whatever is being offered and strike once a new govt is in
..

So u think the incoming govt will like to pay the debt.. They did hv any idea abt abi??

My question is why can't fg agree to fulfil thire own side of agreement they had wit ASsu??

If they thire straight forward.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Hadizometer: 11:16am On Sep 02, 2022
Missionaire:
Where is it done that a union will declare 6 months strike, and still be expecting a salary for work not done?

Where is it done that a Union will return from strike and still do the backlog of the work they didn't do while on strike (without being paid)?

It is a simple thing. Either ASUU is paid for the time on strike since they will still do the backlog of the work just as they have been doing or they don't get paid but it is agreed that they will start on a new slate thereby making new students, final year students and pending lectures to be overboarded.
Are they paid based on work done or monthly?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by fergie001: 11:33am On Sep 02, 2022
LORDCYPRESS:


Mr oblivion...(op)

Pls answer this question sincerely.

Since you only know how to support evil...
Leave them alone.
Govt will meet with ASUU then beg, now come to the media and say something else.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Nauttyprof(m): 11:37am On Sep 02, 2022
galantjoe:


stop comparing career civil servants such as ASUU members who spent up to 50years in office with 4-year-term politicians that spent fortunes to get elected.

the moment one is trying to make this world fair that will be moment it will create endless crisis. life is not fair. not equating everything. some senior private university lecturers are being N100k but their counterpart in federal are being N600k. is it fair.

ASUU is greedy and gluttony

ASUU is greedy but your Politicians are saint who have made the educational system rot to this stage. Did you hear yourself?

Fairness and equity must be brought to this. Someone spent fortunes to get elected is not an excuse to lavishly spend our resources. Please, say something else

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by sultan003(m): 11:52am On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

I schooled in a public university and i withness ASUU strike first hand. The lecturers always come back to class rooms to rush students and the school also shorten there calendar and give like a week holiday between semesters. So it still doesn’t justify the fact that the lecturer will do six month work in 2 months and now collect 8 months salaries with 2 month job

This is a lie

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