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Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 2:46pm On Sep 07, 2022
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"


As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 5:35pm On Sep 07, 2022
Lalasticlala I believe this is insightful.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by DenreleDave(m): 6:02pm On Sep 07, 2022
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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by hedonido: 6:02pm On Sep 07, 2022
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Komolafe89: 6:18pm On Sep 07, 2022
Do you even understand the type of the of restructuring needed

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 10:04pm On Sep 07, 2022
Komolafe89:
Do you even understand the type of the of restructuring needed

It is either resource control by states or regional as it was in the 1963 constitution

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 10:04pm On Sep 07, 2022
hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.


Go and do proper research perhaps you will know better

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Praxis758: 10:08pm On Sep 07, 2022
That 1999 document is the catalyst of various malfunctioning in this country .

Our evil-minded leaders leveraged on it to wreck havoc.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by hedonido: 11:34pm On Sep 07, 2022
Toks2008:


Go and do proper research perhaps you will know better

You've not said anything in response to specific concerns raised. Such escapist brevity doesn't signpost wit or wisdom.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 4:50am On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


You've not said anything in response to specific concerns raised. Such escapist brevity doesn't signpost wit or wisdom.

Guy we are in the 21st century where whatever info we want is just a click away.

I have explained in the write up, so for more info just do your home work about what true federalism.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 4:51am On Sep 08, 2022
Praxis758:
That 1999 document is the catalyst of various malfunctioning in this country .

Our evil-minded leaders leveraged on it to wreck havoc.

And they will wreck more havoc if nothing is done right away.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by gidgiddy: 4:57am On Sep 08, 2022
Toks2008:
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"


As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

Restructuring back to the 1963 constitution, or along those lines, is a good thing. Unfortunately, the North will not agree to it because it will deprive them of what they have built up since the end of the war, the economic and political control of Nigeria

Nigeria can never restructured, the North will never allow it

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by gidgiddy: 4:59am On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.


The minorities are already crying of marginalisation within the current system anyway, however, Nigeria is not supposed to be run according to the dictates and wishes of a section of the country, or their will never be peace

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 8:53am On Sep 08, 2022
gidgiddy:


Restructuring back to the 1963 constitution, or along those lines, is a good thing. Unfortunately, the North will not agree to it because it will deprive them of what they have built up since the end of the war, the economic and political control of Nigeria

Nigeria can never restructured, the North will never allow it

So what is the essence of maintaining the current structure that has put the south in a subservient position to the north?

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by gidgiddy: 9:26am On Sep 08, 2022
Toks2008:


So what is the essence of maintaining the current structure that has put the south in a subservient position to the north?

Now you understand why Ojukwu declared Biafra more than 50 years ago

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 10:28am On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


You've not said anything in response to specific concerns raised. Such escapist brevity doesn't signpost wit or wisdom.
But he is right, the North has a lot untapped mineral deposit which can not be touched because the constitution says they all belong to the federal government and the FG is currently not doing anything about it because of easy oil money. There is also arable land, some countries depends on only agricultural export.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 10:30am On Sep 08, 2022
Toks2008:
[b]Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999.
That is my take, I only support a candidate who speaks devolution of power, any candidate who speaks otherwise don't truly understand the problem of the country

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by hedonido: 12:14pm On Sep 08, 2022
Blakjewelry:

But he is right, the North has a lot untapped mineral deposit which can not be touched because the constitution says they all belong to the federal government and the FG is currently not doing anything about it because of easy oil money. There is also arable land, some countries depends on only agricultural export.

Well, it is easier said than done. The so-called untapped mineral deposits and arable land would take decades of purposeful leadership, toil, sacrifice, delayed gratification and untold suffering in the North to accomplish. Not to mention to immense funding needed to tap these potentials. There are no easy ways or short cuts to this. Nobody will leave the easy and present bountiful food (oil money) in search of long route channels to an uncertain end. So the point is, how would restructuring benefit the economy of the North within the next decade for instance?

Let's not delude ourselves. We know why the North would never allow this to happen. Like I said earlier, which remains the crux of my contention, it is far fetched and a bit insincere to declare that restructuring would lead to economic prosperity for Nigeria as we know it. Maybe it would lead to a better economy for the South, but not for the North in this generation.

So that's why I insist that the clamour for restructuring is more honestly couched in the demand for justice and greater equity rather than in any delusions of economic prosperity for all.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 12:25pm On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


Well, it is easier said than done. The so-called untapped mineral deposits and arable land would take decades of purposeful leadership, toil, sacrifice, delayed gratification and untold suffering in the North to accomplish. Not to mention to immense funding needed to tap these potentials. There are no easy ways or short cuts to this. Nobody will leave the easy and present bountiful food (oil money) in search of long route channels to an uncertain end. So the point is, how would restructuring benefit the economy of the North within the next decade for instance?

Let's not delude ourselves. We know why the North would never allow this to happen. Like I said earlier, which remains the crux of my contention, it is far fetched and a bit insincere to declare that restructuring would lead to economic prosperity for Nigeria as we know it. Maybe it would lead to a better economy for the South, but not for the North in this generation.

So that's why I insist that the clamour for restructuring is more honestly couched in the demand for justice and greater equity rather than in any delusions of economic prosperity for all.
Why do you think it was far fetched when it was achieved before during the regional government. It can be achieved, easy money leads to the corruption we facing. It was done before and it can be achieved again, do not be deceive the word north or south, the only problem we have is a united politicians who are looking for easy money to steal.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by hedonido: 12:38pm On Sep 08, 2022
Blakjewelry:

Why do you think it was far fetched when it was achieved before during the regional government. It can be achieved, easy money leads to the corruption we facing. It was done before and it can be achieved again, do not be deceive the word north or south, the only problem we have is a united politicians who are looking for easy money to steal.

It was achieved in the First Republic because they hadn't experienced the wonders of oil wealth then. Nobody eats the forbidden fruit and goes back. Mouth wey don wide, don wide. It is really that simple. The biggest mistake Nigeria ever made was to end the more confederal regionalism and usher in the idea of federating states with a strong centre. And of course, correcting mistakes are never as easy as making them.

Let's not bother about philosophy. Let's focus on pragmatics. The North would never allow restructuring for the very simple reason that it would immediately plunge them into social and economic disaster. Forget long talks and outdated stories about arable land and groundnut pyramids.

For the last time, let me reiterate that the main basis of the clamour restructuring is to correct the injustice of the North receiving more than its fair share, while contributing next to nothing. That is the koko. It's not about improving economy of the whole country.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by gidgiddy: 12:50pm On Sep 08, 2022
Blakjewelry:

But he is right, the North has a lot untapped mineral deposit which can not be touched because the constitution says they all belong to the federal government and the FG is currently not doing anything about it because of easy oil money. There is also arable land, some countries depends on only agricultural export.

This not just about mineral resources, that just half of it, theres also political control

The current system with a strong centre allows the North to keep overall political control of Nigeria. Why do you think the capital was moved to Abuja?

Devolution of powers to the federating units will weaken the centre and make it impossible for anyone to have political control of Nigeria

Anyone who wants restructuring has to look at the second option of leaving Nigeria because the North will never allow Nigeria to be restructured, not now or in a million years

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 1:00pm On Sep 08, 2022
gidgiddy:


This not just about mineral resources, that just half of it, theres also political control

The current system with a strong centre allows the North to keep overall political control of Nigeria. Why do you think the capital was moved to Abuja?

Devolution of powers to the federating units will weaken the centre and make it impossible for anyone to have political control of Nigeria

Anyone who wants restructuring has to look at the second option of leaving Nigeria because the North will never allow Nigeria to be restructured, not now or in a million years
I don't think there is anything like North wanting control rather greedy politicians wanting control, we have Southern people in government as long as their pocket is full they have no problem. Even the common northern man is been fool with the same idea of northern control, that is why you seen an impoverished North because its elites who benefit from the system in place.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 1:03pm On Sep 08, 2022
Toks2008:


But the moment they assume office they forget about it.

That is the big problem here which is why i think Nigerians should clamor for restructuring rather than the frenzy of 2023 election which is bound to be futile if the constitution remains as it is.

Lalasticlala, Mynd44 biko make una beam this thread.
Unfortunately people fail to see the broader side of the story, they fail to see the system in place breed corruption. They are expecting a magician or messiah which will never come.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 1:05pm On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


It was achieved in the First Republic because they hadn't experienced the wonders of oil wealth then. Nobody eats the forbidden fruit and goes back. Mouth wey don wide, don wide. It is really that simple. The biggest mistake Nigeria ever made was to end the more confederal regionalism and usher in the idea of federating states with a strong centre. And of course, correcting mistakes are never as easy as making them.

Let's not bother about philosophy. Let's focus on pragmatics. The North would never allow restructuring for the very simple reason that it would immediately plunge them into social and economic disaster. Forget long talks and outdated stories about arable land and groundnut pyramids.

For the last time, let me reiterate that the main basis of the clamour restructuring is to correct the injustice of the North receiving more than its fair share, while contributing next to nothing. That is the koko. It's not about improving economy of the whole country.

Guy why you dey reason like this?

Is it not elementary knowledge is that the GDP of a country grows when resources are appropriately explored?

Imagine what will happen if each state or region manages their own reasources.

Each state in Nigeria has resources but human and natural that can be harnessed to build the state.

Canada, United states, UK and other developed countries in the world practice true federalism where states or regions control their resources thereby boosting economy growth.

In Nigeria what we have is a situation where the central govt spoon feeds the states each month, states can't control their resources and they had to depend on the FG.

I CAN'T believe I'm explaining this to you.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Toks2008(m): 1:07pm On Sep 08, 2022
Blakjewelry:

Unfortunately people fail to see the broader side of the story, they fail to see the system in place breed corruption. They are expecting a magician or messiah which will never come.


Corruption thrives with beaureacratic system but with resource control there will be less beareacracy and corruption can be better tackled even if it can't be stopped.

Lagos alone is a country with population arger than that of Togo and Benin republic combined but a state this big can't manage her own resources and will still depend on the FG for allocation.

With restructuring, states can create their own police which will increase the security of lives.

There are projects in many states that are abandoned because they are tagged Federal projects.

Look at Electricity, it was just this year that the bill was passed where states can generate their own power SINCE 1960...

With restructuring, states will have 100% autonomy to build rather than depending on the ineptitude of the federal govt.

This is the only way forward.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 1:11pm On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


For the last time, let me reiterate that the main basis of the clamour restructuring is to correct the injustice of the North receiving more than its fair share, while contributing next to nothing. That is the koko. It's not about improving economy of the whole country.
Well everybody has his own outlook on things, the above is your own opinion, I am of the opinion the only way we can optimize things is through restructure. If you have a factory with four engine and only 1 and half is working, you going to have constant problems with poor output, but if you decide to fix all of them then is will your output increase.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 1:23pm On Sep 08, 2022
Toks2008:


Guy why you dey reason like this?

Is it not elementary knowledge is that the GDP of a country grows when resources are appropriately explored?

Imagine what will happen if each state or region manages their own reasources.

Each state in Nigeria has resources but human and natural that can be harnessed to build the state.

Canada, United states, UK and other developed countries in the world practice true federalism where states or regions control their resources thereby boosting economy growth.

In Nigeria what we have is a situation where the central govt spoon feeds the states each month, states can't control their resources and they had to depend on the FG.

I CAN'T believe I'm explaining this to you.
Many people don't seem to understand the root cause of our problems, as the FG feeding the state directly power is far from the people, the primary focus on governance should be the local government, then state before the federal government because the local council is closest to the people. I even I have blueprint on how the local government can change Nigeria.
For instance if each local government decide to provide modern farming equipment and too to hire to farmers for a small fee, then provide storage facilities for storage of perishable goods like chicken, tomatoes, vegetables etc. What if local government decide to keep their local government area clean by sweeping sand and dirt of the road, clean drainage and waste for small fee, it will create employment also. What if local government decide to repair maintain street lights provided state government and other intervention bodies. The list is endless.

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Sammy07: 1:29pm On Sep 08, 2022
hedonido:


It was achieved in the First Republic because they hadn't experienced the wonders of oil wealth then. Nobody eats the forbidden fruit and goes back. Mouth wey don wide, don wide. It is really that simple. The biggest mistake Nigeria ever made was to end the more confederal regionalism and usher in the idea of federating states with a strong centre. And of course, correcting mistakes are never as easy as making them.

Let's not bother about philosophy. Let's focus on pragmatics. The North would never allow restructuring for the very simple reason that it would immediately plunge them into social and economic disaster. Forget long talks and outdated stories about arable land and groundnut pyramids.

For the last time, let me reiterate that the main basis of the clamour restructuring is to correct the injustice of the North receiving more than its fair share, while contributing next to nothing. That is the koko. It's not about improving economy of the whole country.

I agree with you

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by ambimo(m): 4:59pm On Sep 08, 2022
Blakjewelry:

Many people don't seem to understand the root cause of our problems, as the FG feeding the state directly power is far from the people, the primary focus on governance should be the local government, then state before the federal government because the local council is closest to the people. I even I have blueprint on how the local government can change Nigeria.
For instance if each local government decide to provide modern farming equipment and too to hire to farmers for a small fee, then provide storage facilities for storage of perishable goods like chicken, tomatoes, vegetables etc. What if local government decide to keep their local government area clean by sweeping sand and dirt of the road, clean drainage and waste for small fee, it will create employment also. What if local government decide to repair maintain street lights provided state government and other intervention bodies. The list is endless.
can we be friends?

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Re: Restructuring: No President Can Solve Nigeria Problem Without Doing This by Blakjewelry(m): 6:44pm On Sep 08, 2022
ambimo:
can we be friends?
Sure send pm

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