gidgiddy:


You need to Google what was agreed at Aburi to know that is not true. Ojukwu actually wanted the highest ranking officer at the time, Brigadier Ogundipe, a Yoruba man, to take over, as military tradition recommends.

At Aburi, Ojukwu agreed that Gowon, who was at the time junior to several officers, including Ojukwu, should become head of State as long as Nigeria was run as a confederation until the return of civilian rule.

Gowon returned to Nigeria, turned his back on the Aburi agreement he signed in Ghana, and to add insult to injury, announced Decree 14, which abolished all 4 Regions all together, replaced them with 12 brand new states, half of which was allocated to the North, took away resource control and fiscal federalism

Ojukwu was left with no choice but to declare Biafra

Aburi is one of the major reasons they will never teach Nigerian history in schools, they dont want people to know the truth

Again with this usual lies you keep repeating.

It was Ironsi an Igbo man that abolished regionalism by creating a unitary government..

Your lies will never become truth..

Toks2008:
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

you might not be far from the truth.

Josephkabila12:
. God bless you for this. This is what we need in Nigeria of today. We the youth need to do massive protest in all the 36 state capitals in Nigeria.

See the problem is that "we", there is no "we" when it comes to the nigerian masses. North, south, east, west everyone is constantly singing a completely different tune.

Rico96:
Please remove Jesus Christ in your reference... Don't cross our redline and respect our religion...thanks

No be only red line.

Check my signature and see that you are not more Christian than me.

codemaniacs:


The current system was created by Ironsi ( the Ig:bos ) to favour the Igbos but it back fired and now favors the north and the U:K...

So stop crying for what your ancestors caused and started...

How did Ironsi manage to do this if the 4 Regions that were there the day he took over, were still there the day he was killed?

codemaniacs:


Again with this usual lies you keep repeating.

It was Ironsi an Igbo man that abolished regionalism by creating a unitary government..

Your lies will never become truth..

Rather than believe what you were told, use google and find Gowons decree 14, where he abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

But the core north is already absolutely penurized or what else do you mean? The north has been described as the poverty capital of the world, the population of almajiri, out of school children and potential terrorists keeps increasing by the minute. There is no short cut to success, we can keep wishing and deceiving ourselves.
The earlier we return to regionalism, where govt focus on their main duty which is human capital development the better for all.

Toks2008:
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

Excellent. You nailed it.

gidgiddy:


Rather than believe what you were told, use google and find Gowons decree 14, where he abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states

Ironsi's decree 34 of 1966 abolished regionalism in Nigeria. Stop saying things you don't know. Gowon's decree merely split the regions to smaller states. Ironsi killed federalism and substituted it with a unitary system.

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

What u just said here is there is no hope for Nigeria

No country has ever made it in life with naija's system of govt

gidgiddy:


How did Ironsi manage to do this if the 4 Regions that were there the day he took over, were still there the day he was killed?

gidgiddy:


Rather than believe what you were told, use google and find Gowons decree 14, where he abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states

Ironsi made it that the regions no longer controlled their resources and their revenue which means the regions became subservient to the FG.

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

send me your mail there is a book i will send to you to read on how best to restructure Nigeria, and how it would benefit the federating units. The 1999 constitution is a sham that will take us nowhere.

Exactly the reason I don't fancy Obi as someone who can remotely make anything better. It's the reason why I see anyone aspiring to be president as someone trying to be the biggest legal criminal in the land nothing more. What could Buhari do in the end despite his passion for the people to make life better for us? The system we are operating now must be completely overhaulled and I will not be part of those who will queu in the sun to vote in another opportunist again until someone who campaign with promise to first of all amend that criminally drafted, crafted and enacted 1999 constitution.

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

If you know the truth but shy away from it because you are in love with the present arrangement, don't worry, the falsehood you are vehemently defending will happen to you when time changes and you will have no bury your head in shame. Full stop.

This reminds me of one my favorite lecturer’s quote in college, back in naija… he said and I quote “ even if una elect Jesus as una president, he won’t succeed, with this current Nigeria’s political structure”.

The 1999 constitution needs to be abolished, if there’s no provision for that, maybe another bloodless coup should happen…. If una elect Obi with this current structure, una own go worse pass change agents back in 2015…. #MyOpinion

gidgiddy:


Restructuring back to the 1963 constitution, or along those lines, is a good thing. Unfortunately, the North will not agree to it because it will deprive them of what they have built up since the end of the war, the economic and political control of Nigeria

Nigeria can never restructured, the North will never allow it

It may not happen because of the greedy people we have in the south, if all the southerners come together and say they want something the north can't do anything. The north don't have any power if not for the greedy saboteurs we have in the south, because as it is now, many of the indigenous people in the north have risen up against the usurpers called fulani, all we need to do is to replicate same in the south and chase them out of Nigeria and completely out of our political domain.

codemaniacs:




Ironsi made it that the regions no longer controlled their resources and their revenue which means the regions became subservient to the FG.

Lol

Ironsi was actually the only Nigerian military head of state who did not touch resource control, not even for one day

Ironsi's only budget of January 1966, which can be found online, was based on the 4 Regions controlling their resources, and paying tax to the government

It was Gowons decree 14 that abolished the 4 Regions, replaced them with 12 states, and stated that the Federal had to take over resources so as to ensure the survival of the 12 new states

Thats how resource control died.

ElSudani:


Ironsi's decree 34 of 1966 abolished regionalism in Nigeria. Stop saying things you don't know. Gowon's decree merely split the regions to smaller states. Ironsi killed federalism and substituted it with a unitary system.

Thats the lie that has been told for many years. But the simple way to know that Ironsi did not abolish Regionalism is that the Regions the 4 Regions that existed when Ironsi took over, were still existing the day he was killed

Gowon then took over, and before you knew it, the 4 Regions Gowon inherited from Ironsi were abolished with Decree 14, and replaced with 12 states

gidgiddy:


Lol

Ironsi was actually the only Nigerian military head of state who did not touch resource control, not even for one day

Ironsi's only budget of January 1966, which can be found online, was based on the 4 Regions controlling their resources, and paying tax to the government

It was Gowons decree 14 that abolished the 4 Regions, replaced them with 12 states, and stated that the Federal had to take over resources so as to ensure the survival of the 12 new states

Thats how resource control died.

ElSudani has already answered you so it's pointless replying you but any thread I see you spreading these same lies I will call you out.

Constitution my Foot..The major problem is our Mindset.

99% of Nigerians are Wicked, Deceitful.
We don't love each other, lots of Eye Service.

If you like change constitution 100million times, Nigeria will still be stuck.

Wicked Set of People.

Just an example.. How will a warehouse worker earn 15k per month? A teacher earning 10k per month teaching 3 classes all day..All because someone wants to maximise profit.

babajero:
It may not happen because of the greedy people we have in the south, if all the southerners come together and say they want something the north can't do anything. The north don't have any power if not for the greedy saboteurs we have in the south, because as it is now, many of the indigenous people in the north have risen up against the usurpers called fulani, all we need to do is to replicate same in the south and chase them out of Nigeria and completely out of our political domain.

Your problem is you are limiting yourself to the north..

Your problem is thinking the U:K and somr other foreign countries won't support the north. They were the ones who joined north and south Nigeria due to the balance of trade losses northern Nigeria was making..

codemaniacs:


ElSudani has already answered you so it's pointless replying you but any thread I see you spreading these same lies I will call you out.

You dont have to listen to me or anyone, use google and verify. But you can look at the first page of Gowons decree 14 below to see how he abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states

hedonido:


Well, it is easier said than done. The so-called untapped mineral deposits and arable land would take decades of purposeful leadership, toil, sacrifice, delayed gratification and untold suffering in the North to accomplish. Not to mention to immense funding needed to tap these potentials. There are no easy ways or short cuts to this. Nobody will leave the easy and present bountiful food (oil money) in search of long route channels to an uncertain end. So the point is, how would restructuring benefit the economy of the North within the next decade for instance?

Let's not delude ourselves. We know why the North would never allow this to happen. Like I said earlier, which remains the crux of my contention, it is far fetched and a bit insincere to declare that restructuring would lead to economic prosperity for Nigeria as we know it. Maybe it would lead to a better economy for the South, but not for the North in this generation.

So that's why I insist that the clamour for restructuring is more honestly couched in the demand for justice and greater equity rather than in any delusions of economic prosperity for all.

Please can you tell me the main financial sustainability of Nigeria before oil, what happened to the groundnut pyramids that existed before oil? Let's just be sincere if we continue like this, the north will remain lazy and their main target and job will be just to over populate the country to win elections. Why buhari can't account for the billions of dollars he has borrowed is because he has used more than half to feed and pamper the over population in the north with no economic benefits.

Blakjewelry:

I don't think there is anything like North wanting control rather greedy politicians wanting control, we have Southern people in government as long as their pocket is full they have no problem. Even the common northern man is been fool with the same idea of northern control, that is why you seen an impoverished North because its elites who benefit from the system in place.

check the percentage of politians in Nigeria we have more northerners

Toks2008:
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

U are rice. It's just Some humanbeans here won't see sense in ur write-up.

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

you are totally wrong, your assertion reek of support for the north inspite of other regions!
with regional government ,all region will be productive in their own way same as it was post independent
the north used to be very productive in those days, with lot of agricultural resources and output, the land they used for farming then is still available today, how about their abundant mineral resources? go to dutsinma and jibya in katsina state, then you will know how much the north is blessed with mineral resources not to mention zamfara and host of other states with resources.

hedonido:
How exactly will restructuring or true federalism 'end' Nigeria's economic stagnation? How? I'm curious.

The clamour for restructuring and true federalism would clearly give greater control to the federating units/regions, and promote a sense of localised power, but that's even unlikely - because the minorities within each region would still cry out about inequalities and marginalisation.

Then of course the most immediate reality that would emanate from true federalism is that the core North would be absolutely penurized because the largesses they have unfairly enjoyed for decades would be eliminated. So of course there would be no near term 'improvement' in the economy of the North. Rather, their economic woes will be x10 of what it is today.

The truth is that true federalism or restructuring is more a cry for justice - justice for the South specifically - than anything else. That's why the North cannot and will never entertain any such talk.

What now stops the north from focusing and commercialising their own natural and agricultural resources??

gidgiddy:


You dont have to listen to me or anyone, use google and verify. But you can look at the first page of Gowons decree 14 below to see how he abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 states

In a fictional story, Lets say you own a business and your business has 4 buildings and each building represent a sector of your business and are in the same compound...

there are 3 leaders - leader A ( original system ) , leader B ( Ironsi ) , leader C ( Gowon )...

during leader A tenure your business was making $900m per year..

but leader B did a coup and killed leader A then leader B creates a law that says 96% of your revenue should go to him while you keep 4% ( $36m per year ) then leader C also does a coup and kills leader B then leader C create a law that maintains that 96% of your revenue should go to him and your company is now divided into different sectors ( manufacturing sector, finance sector, marketing sector. I.T sector ) but your company will remain in the same compound..

Now under which leader did you make the most revenue and have more independence

Toks2008:
Nigeria problem is not really about leadership but of structural anomaly brought about by a failed constitution of 1979 and amended in 1999...This is the reason why any elected president will never make any viable progress because the present constitution is very inimical to the progress of Nigeria.

Even if Jesus comes down to rule Nigeria, he will definitely restructure the entire failed system first before assuming power because even the scriptures attest in the books of psalms 11vs3 "If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?"

As 2023 approaches, rather than drumming up support for any candidate or any party, Nigerians should clamor for a total overhaul of the 1979/99 constitution that has stagnated the country for several years because in my opinion, no matter who gets there, no substantial progress can ever be made with the present structure and we will only keep going round and round in circles for many years to come.

More saddening is that the leaders in political offices know this but have vehemently refused to do anything about it simply because the present unproductive structure comes with so much largesse for them.

Nigerians should come together to demand that the country returns to the 1960/63 constitution which reflects true federalism with regions as federating units or restructure the present system to allow True federation.

This will end the economic stagnation of many years, accelerate national growth, put an end to the clamor for secession and foster the unity of Nigeria thereby making her more productive, more powerful and more dominant on the global economic scene.

Before the next President embarks on any task, restructuring must be done else all his efforts will be futile and will end up like his predecessors.

Yes Sir I totally agree with you. States should only be created based on Tribes , such that every tribes determine it's future and prosperity.

And if we still want to be together, our union should be based on the model of United Tribes of Africa to form a country

This way, competitive development shall force every region to develop their people and region.

OceanRed:

you are totally wrong, your assertion reek of support for the north inspite of other regions!
with regional government ,all region will be productive in their own way same as it was post independent
the north used to be very productive in those days, with lot of agricultural resources and output, the land they used for farming then is still available today, how about their abundant mineral resources? go to dutsinma and jibya in katsina state, then you will know how much the north is blessed with mineral resources not to mention zamfara and host of other states with resources.

jasonex4:


What now stops the north from focusing and commercialising their own natural and agricultural resources??

babajero:
Please can you tell me the main financial sustainability of Nigeria before oil, what happened to the groundnut pyramids that existed before oil? Let's just be sincere if we continue like this, the north will remain lazy and their main target and job will be just to over populate the country to win elections. Why buhari can't account for the billions of dollars he has borrowed is because he has used more than half to feed and pamper the over population in the north with no economic benefits.

Northern Nigeria has never ever been productive don't let them deceive with pyramid story..

If north was productive then the br:itish won't have amalgamated north and south Nigeria in 1914.. It was because the north was poor they joined it with southern Nigeria..

If Nigeria practices the regionalism you guys want then northern Nigeria will be in very extreme poverty... that's why they are land grabbing and killing the indigenes and also supporting a northern man to build and own a refinery and do other things they can to capture and steal and hold onto the wealth of southern Nigeria...

hedonido is right..

gidgiddy:



Restructuring back to the 1963 constitution, or along those lines, is a good thing. Unfortunately, the North will not agree to it because it will deprive them of what they have built up since the end of the war, the economic and political control of Nigeria

Nigeria can never restructured, the North will never allow it

So invariably, the rest of nigeria(apart from the easterners obviously) is slave to northerners. How do you guys refuse to fight for your right, yet laugh at igbos trying to leave the failed & failing contraption

codemaniacs:


You have a problem.. your problem is you think in terms of Nigeria..

it's not about Nigeria not having a refinery it's about an individual , a state , group of states, group of private companies , group of people e.t.c building and owning a refinery..

Thats one of the reasons the north is building a refinery through dang:ote.

Lagos ogun and all the SW states could have come together and contributed to build a refinery since all these years..

Same thing for the SE and SS they could have come together to build anything they want.

The Eastern region ( the Igbos ) would have had one of the biggest oil companies in the world if they had built an oil company instead of trying to take over Nigeria through war.

Hope you know your own problem too.

So it's the north that is building dangote refinery

Any doc to back it up

Why don't you say the just launched pinnacle depot in Lagos is built by the se.