Okarakwu:
1. Did the story of Lot and his children not happened ?
2. Out of 12 one was exempted,

3. God's plans are beautiful . And who feeds you with your own lies and nonsense ? If to become a celibate is your calling ,stick to it.

What about the story of Lot and what has it to do with this?

2. Out of 12, 1 was exempted? What in the world does that mean?

3. Stop spewing meaningless Soundbites fed you by your pastors and mogs thinking that nonsense means something to others. Abeg, get to the point. What in the world are you on about?,

CaptMarvel:
its more like getting pregnant for your boyfriend whom you didn't marry, millions of this cases exist. And we understand that such offsprings are known as illegitimate. But such is not an unforgivable sin, in as much as you are not living under the same roof in fornication with the said father.

Churches opinions might differ reason being that they may have code of conducts and ethics that guide their members.

See wetin religion don do folks abeg!

Abbey2908:
It's ungodly. No any other name to call it

But God Himself cursed childbearing in Genesis 3 vs 16 washing His hands off your childbearing as a result, so?

phemmyfour:
It's a sin. Child upbringing is designed by God to be execute by both Parents (father n mother) by default

Where exactly did God state any what you claim above?,

alabo1:


Some of these people belong on another planet. Man owns Children ke? It's a pity that religion can make people lose their brains

I wonder what religion taught him such stupidity.

Kobojunkie:
Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so.

I only desire to cure your laziness, the mark of your generation.
Why do you want me to spoonfeed you when you're not an infant?
It is bad alone that you do not know what is in the Bible.
It is even worse that you do not want to know and cure your shameful ignorance.
You need help. Bye.

Gospel2Day:
I only desire to cure your laziness, the mark of your generation.
Why do you want me to spoonfeed you when you're not an infant?
It is bad alone that you do not know what is in the Bible.
It is even worse that you do not want to know and cure your shameful ignorance.
You need help. Bye.

Again, Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you not go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so

[quote author=MrBrownJay1 post=116851813]you are talking of the HYPOCRISY of the church here... aka they would look down on this female as if she was the dirtiest wh0re in town and completely forget that their baba jesus mother was technically the same.[/quote

Please how do you mean by their baba Jesus mother? Because I can seem to get anything meaniful from what u just said.

Kobojunkie:
Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so.

I only desire to cure your laziness, the mark of your generation.
Why do you want me to spoonfeed you when you're not an infant?
It is bad alone that you do not know what is in the Bible.
It is even worse that you do not want to know and cure your shameful ignorance.
You need help.
Bye.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:


I only desire to cure your laziness, the mark of your generation.
Why do you want me to spoonfeed you when you're not an infant?
It is bad alone that you do not know what is in the Bible.
It is even worse that you do not want to know and cure your shameful ignorance.
You need help.
Bye.
Shalom.

Again, Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you not go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so

Kobojunkie:
Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so.

You have no regards for the Bible
I will not dignify your insolence towards biblical truths with an answer.
If truly you respect biblical truths and views, get a Bible app and start seeking the answers to the questions you asked me.
I wish you a fruitful search and study, and an amazing discoveries.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:
You have no regards for the Bible
I will not dignify your insolence towards biblical truths with an answer.
If truly you respect biblical truths and views, get a Bible app and start seeking the answers to the questions you asked me.
I wish you a fruitful search and study, and an amazing discoveries.
Shalom.

Again, Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you not go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so

First we all must have the Spirit of God in us, and walk in the spirit so that we will not fulfill the desire of the flesh.

What ever we desire must proceed from the Spirit. Not just allowing our flesh to control us to do certain things.

As far as I know we are been called to walk in liberty only we should not use the liberty for an occasion of the FLESH.

Where there is no law then there is no sin. And we are to live our lives in the freedom of what Christ has done for us by setting us free from sin and Death which is the LAW.

If is not a sin for someone to donate blood to another person to give him or her life, then is not a sin for her to have a baby through dissemination as long Fornication and adultery is not committed.

But also is adviceable to always be yourself if u know u can keep up.

Ochelyko1:
First we all must have the Spirit of God in us, and walk in the spirit so that we will not fulfill the desire of the flesh.

What ever we desire must proceed from the Spirit. Not just allowing our flesh to control us to do certain things.

As far as I know we are been called to walk in liberty only we should not use the liberty for an occasion of the FLESH.

Where there is no law then there is no sin. And we are to live our lives in the freedom of what Christ has done for us by setting us free from sin and Death which is the LAW.

If is not a sin for someone to donate blood to another person to give him or her life, then is not a sin for her to have a baby through dissemination as long Fornication and adultery is not committed.

But also is adviceable to always be yourself if u know u can keep up.

in response to the statement in bold, what would the Spirit need you to bear fleshly children for?

Kobojunkie:
Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so.

So LAZY you could not even type something different.
Only copying and pasting same lame and lazy lines.
This generation is finished, having all the tools to get and gather knowledge, yet so lost and ignorant.
It is a shame.
Very nauseating.

Gospel2Day:


So LAZY you could not even type something different.
Only copying and pasting same lame and lazy lines.
This generation is finished, having all the tools to get and gather knowledge, yet so lost and ignorant.
It is a shame.
Very nauseating.

Again, Ad Populum... clear indication you have no clue if or where such scriptures even exist. I suggest you not go around spreading lies regarding that which is in scripture. It is sin against God to do so

raphretle:
So supposing an unmarried woman decides to artificially inseminate herself because she is approaching menopause.. Then she gets pregnant.
Is it a sin??
Note: Fornication is not involved.
What would be the stand of the church on such issues?

Be fruitful and multiply.

TheGift:
Be fruitful and multiply.

And the same God who gave that command in the beginning also created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuchs in this life and allowed others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom. When God gave the decree to mankind, He didn't mean all should do breed abeg!

Kobojunkie:
in response to the statement in bold, what would the Spirit need you to bear fleshly children for?

Be fruitful and multiply?

Someone to give, receive and experience unconditional love with?

TheGift:

Be fruitful and multiply.

Someone to give and receive unconditional love with.

unconditional love? Where did you get that ridiculousness from?

Gosh ,thought I was engaged with a higher intellect ...my apologies

Kobojunkie:
What about the story of Lot and what has it to do with this?

2. Out of 12, 1 was exempted? What in the world does that mean?

3. Stop spewing meaningless Soundbites fed you by your pastors and mogs thinking that nonsense means something to others. Abeg, get to the point. What in the world are you on about?,

This would be an issue if her service was to men and the church. It's a 'discussion' between the lady and her God. If she's at peace with this decision, she needs no validation from church.

Okarakwu:
Gosh ,thought I was engaged with a higher intellect ...my apologies

Don't confuse Soundbite Christ with God's Truth abeg!

Kobojunkie:
in response to the statement in bold, what would the Spirit need you to bear fleshly children for?

Maybe your mum shouldn't have given birth to you Instead. But anyway just as it was stated from the beginning be fruitful and multiply.

So that's why the Spirit need you to bear children.

Ochelyko1:
Maybe your mum shouldn't have given birth to you Instead. But anyway just as it was stated from the beginning be fruitful and multiply.
So that's why the Spirit need you to bear children.

The same God who gave the command in the beginning also created some men and women Eunuchs from birth, allowed some to become Eunuchs in this life, and permitted others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 11 - 12. And He is the very same that, when man fell, cursed childbearing, making it a process that is of the world of men, and not of His Kingdom - Genesis 3 vs 16. So again, my question to you, and this following your very own claim from earlier...

Ochelyko1:
Whatever we desire must proceed from the Spirit. Not just allowing our flesh to control us to do certain things.

... why would "the Spirit" need for you to bear children when God never required you to such for His sake or His Kingdom for that matter?

The same God who gave the command in the beginning also created some men and women Eunuchs from birth, allowed some to become Eunuchs in this life, and permitted others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 11 - 12. And He is the very same that, when man fell, cursed childbearing, making it a process that is of the world of men, and not of His Kingdom - Genesis 3 vs 16. So again, my question to you, and this following your very own claim from earlier...

Ochelyko1:
Whatever we desire must proceed from the Spirit. Not just allowing our flesh to control us to do certain things.

... why would "the Spirit" need for you to bear children when God never required you to such for His sake or His Kingdom for that matter?

Where's Righteousness2??

Kobojunkie:
1. Matthew 19 vs 12.

3. Again, read Matthew 19 vs 12.

4. God created all animals, did He not?

5a. Your response makes no sense considering what it is in response to.
5b. There you go again making rules thinking they are yours to make. Again, according to scripture Eve was made from the same stock as Adam.
5c. Of course I don't believe you since I would rather deal with facts.

Shikena Just an advice you can't isolate scriptures and give it you interpretation. Just a tip for yiur next bible study which I doubt you have had in a very very long time. No further comment your honour

Adeebiwa09:
Shikena Just an advice you can't isolate scriptures and give it you interpretation. Just a tip for yiur next bible study which I doubt you have had in a very very long time. No further comment your honour

Here's a simple question... which of the scriptures I quoted from seemed "isolated" to you?

Is it the part where God Himself informed you that He did not create everyone with the ability to procreate or the part where God said He makes people unable to procreate or the other part where He informed you that He permits others to choose not to procreate for the sake of His Kingdom?

All your Bible study never open your mind to the fact that in Jesus Christ, "be fruitful and multiply" is not a mandate but instead reduced to a choice individuals can make of their own much the same as marriage is?

Kobojunkie:
Here's a simple question... which of the scriptures I quoted from seemed "isolated" to you?

Is it the part where God Himself informed you that He did not create everyone with the ability to procreate or the part where God said He makes people unable to procreate or the other part where He informed you that He permits others to choose not to procreate for the sake of His Kingdom?

All your Bible study never open your mind to the fact that in Jesus Christ, "be fruitful and multiply" is not a mandate but instead reduced to a choice individuals can make of their own much the same as marriage is?

More

Kobojunkie:
The Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth aka Jesus Christ Himself will never teach you anything that contradicts or contravenes Jesus Christ. So be mindful of that - John 14 vs 25 - 27 and John 16 vs 4 - 15.

Good luck to you

babajeje123:

Wow

you're welcome sir

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=116911118]The same God who gave the command in the beginning also created some men and women Eunuchs from birth, allowed some to become Eunuchs in this life, and permitted others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 11 - 12. And He is the very same that, when man fell, cursed childbearing, making it a process that is of the world of men, and not of His Kingdom - Genesis 3 vs 16. So again, my question to you, and this following your very own claim from earlier...
... why would "the Spirit" need for you to bear children when God never required you to such for His sake or His Kingdom for that matter? [/quote

My friend no man can question God ok. If God from the beginning said be fruitful and multiply then you should be fruitful and multiply. No that what you choose to be or do is in your own hands. If you wish to Eunuchs then be but don't condemned those who have children. Also if you choose to have children don't condemned those who are Eunuchs.

For Christ has set us free only don't use the freedom for the occasion of sin.

As for the kingdom of God, we all are the children of God whether Eunuchs or not, whether married or not but we all shall be like the Angels.

The Spirit have bless marriage right from the beginning so my friend we are to be fruitful and multiply says the Lord.