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Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 6:14pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:1. God isn't the one being questioned here, you are. God is the one who created these Eunuchs , as He informed you by Himself. So obviously, what He said to men in the beginning wasn't a mandate but a choice He gave to men from the beginning. 2. Enough with the non-sequiturs abeg and please answer the questions asked Abeg. The same God who gave the command in the beginning also created some men and women Eunuchs from birth, allowed some to become Eunuchs in this life, and permitted others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 11 - 12. And He is the very same that, when man fell, cursed childbearing, making it a process that is of the world of men, and not of His Kingdom - Genesis 3 vs 16. So again, my question to you, and this following your very own claim from earlier... Ochelyko1:... why would "the Spirit" need for you to bear children when God never required you to such for His sake or His Kingdom for that matter? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 7:28pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: My friend there was never a time God said any man should be Eunuchs! If you have that in your Bible bring it out let's see. From the beginning it was be fruitful and multiply. And that's why the Bible says that for these reason a man will leave his father and mother and clieve with his wife and they become one FLESH. God may that to be a command. But that of Eunuchs was not a command. Jesus making such statement in that Matthew u quoted has to do with a prophetic statement What brought that statement was because of divorce in marriage, why I said it was prophetic because Brother Paul for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven refuse to marry, so that it won't hinder him from preaching the kingdom of God. So he do that by his own choice no one did. Also those born Eunuchs from birth doesn't mean God made them so! Because accordingly to the plan of God for all man kind is for us to be married and be fruitful and multiply. But now we have been born again, born of the Spirit of God so is no longer us that is living but Christ that is living inside of us. So what ever Christ wants from us that's what we will do. Now be led by the spirit of God one can choose to be a Eunuchs for the kingdom sake also been led by the spirit of God one can also get married and have children. Which ever way nothing stop us from attending to the kingdom of God matters. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by bepositive11: 7:24pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
raphretle: To be honest, it's a selfish thing to do. The child will have a very hard life. It's better for that woman to adopt a child 1 Like |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 7:28pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:WOW.... so basically you believe Jesus Christ lied in the following... 11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.What you are insinuating is that Jesus Christ did not mean that God created Eunuchs nor did God make some Eunuchs in this life. God instead created all to produce and so all must produce, according to you? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:04pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: You have failed to show me where God said he created some to be Eunuchs. Show me first in the scripture then before u can start saying what Jesus Christ said. What was written in the Bible was about divorce, and I also told you that what Jesus Christ said was a prophetic statement. So I don't know if u understand what it means for something to be prophetic? Search through the scriptures and get this things right. From the beginning God created male and female and bless them to be fruitful and multiply not to be Eunuchs. So those who choose to be did so by their own will. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:12pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:1. According to Jesus Christ, His teachings are directly from God Himself. So, it should then follow that since Jesus Christ speaks that which is God's - He is the Word of God after all - and since God is the one and only creator, that God is the one who spoke even the Words recorded in the passage below through Jesus Christ.16. Jesus answered, “What I teach is not my own. My teaching comes from the one who sent me. 11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.Or do you believe instead that Jesus Christ lied? 2. I'm sorry, what has that written about divorce to do with the context of this discussion? Also, what "prophetic" claim are you suddenly making here of divorce when Jesus Christ never said anything of the such to begin with? 3. For the umpteenth time, did God lie through Jesus Christ when He said that Some were created Eunuchs from their birth? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:21pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: My friend Jesus didnt say a new thing by what he said concerning been Eunuchs. Now read this translations Matthew 19:12 There are different reasons why some men cannot marry. Some men were born without the ability to become fathers. Others were made that way later in life by other people. And some men have given up marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. But the person who can marry should accept this teaching about marriage.” Now from this translations Jesus was given reasons why some people don't marry. The disciples made a statement that made Jesus to speak prophetically of those who is not marry because they are born that way from birth, and I know of some who refuse to marry not because of God Kingdom sake but they just feel like because they were born with it. Some are made not to marry by men, look at the priests of the Catholic Church they were not allow to marry, not order by God but by men! Why some they decide to catraste themselves or rather refuse to marry simply because of kingdom of God not that God is stoping them to marry Eg brother Paul. So when u hear Jesus last statement that who can receive this should receive. It means is something that has never been done before in old. Because even the priest of old do marry and have children. So please for better understanding read other translations thank u. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:28pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:Stop running all over the place with the ramblings.... 11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.The statement above was made by Jesus Christ, the one who said all He teaches is that which the Father directly feeds through Him. And according to the statement above, God created some Eunuchs from birth. Or who else creates those who are born? Did Jesus Christ lie in His declaration above or not? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:34pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: God created all human beings but how they came to life is the responsibility of the Father and the mother. Some where born blind, some where born deaf and dumb so are you saying God is responsible for that too? Some where born with deformation and so some where born with terrible sickness and diseases was it God who brought all those this to them? Just as God has given us a way of salvation it is left for you to chose whether u want to be save or not everything is in your hand. So Jesus teaches came from God and it seems you can't differentiate a parable or prophetic word from Jesus teaches. So sometimes you take word literally. But one thing I know is that God created man to be fruitful and multiply. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:39pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:Again.. enough of the story telling... 11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.Did Jesus Christ lie when He proclaimed that some were created from birth as Eunuchs hence without the ability to procreate meaning that they cannot bear children? Yes OR No? You claim all must procreate - that procreation is some sort of mandate for all men from God - but here is Jesus Christ clearly telling you that not all were made to procreate and rather than directly accept or deny... you choose to beat about the bush thinking this will somehow go away... how? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:41pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Answer my question first now bro. Just answer yes or no then I will give u ur answer. Those born blind, deaf and dumb was it God that made them that way? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:46pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Am waiting for your response please do answer me so that I can answer yours ok. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:46pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:Did God mandate sight, hearing, or speech too? Focus on the discussion at hand. You can create another thread to discuss other things if you chose. Again.. 11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.Did Jesus Christ lie when He proclaimed that some were created from birth as Eunuchs hence without the ability to procreate meaning that they cannot bear children? Yes OR No? You claim all must procreate - that procreation is some sort of mandate for all men from God - but here is Jesus Christ clearly telling you that not all were made to procreate and rather than directly accept or deny... you choose to beat about the bush thinking this will somehow go away... how? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:50pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: My friend I can see u don't have any answer to give so if u can't answer mine then I can't answer urs. We are talking about birth here. God created man and said man should be fruitful and multiply. God has already put everything in place right from the beginning. So what ever comes out from there till now has to do with the individual. But since u don't have a answer to my question then I live u to ur faith |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:53pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:I take it then by your numerous attempts at explaining away that clearly declared by Jesus Christ here - first you claimed His Words were not of God, then you claimed that somehow Jesus Christ spoke instead of an idea outside of the hands of God - that you don't believe in Jesus Christ let alone God, and so there is no point in going further with you on this. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 9:58pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: That's your own story bro, Jesus Christ word are spirit and life. So if you misquote what Jesus said that's ur own cup. But am still in the interest concerning the topic matter before you start your argument of Eunuchs that the lady has not commit any sins what so ever for getting pregnant through what she did. She is not an Eunuchs and her womb is fertile to receive baby. I know of those who are Eunuchs by birth and by man will and also by their own self. Everyone have their own choice to make. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 9:59pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Ochelyko1:Again....I take it then by your numerous attempts at explaining away that clearly declared by Jesus Christ here - first you claimed His Words were not of God, then you claimed that somehow Jesus Christ spoke instead of an idea outside of the hands of God - that you don't believe in Jesus Christ let alone God, and so there is no point in going further with you on this. |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Ochelyko1: 10:03pm On Sep 24, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Thank you and have a nice night ok bye bye� |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Nobody: 2:31pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Do what you got to do and stop using church or scripture as an excuse. Your life should not be define by church. raphretle: |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Mike008(m): 4:51pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
For those of you demanding biblical explanations for condemnation of artificial insemination, can you conversely prove to us where in the bible it is was permitted? Can you even prove under whatever guise it is permitted? Artificial insemination cannot be used as a tool to override the sin of sexual immorality. The only permissible or recognized mode of conception ordained by God is between a man and a woman, anything other than that is a violation of the human body, and therefore a sin. For our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit. 1Corinthians 6:19 Note that, it was only after the creation of man and woman that God charged them to fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth, and subdue it. Gen. 1:28. So if God had desired man to reproduce through any other means he would not have created woman. And to all those mocking the conception of Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit, know ye that God forgives all sins, but the sin against the Holy Spirit is not forgiven. Matthew 12:31 1 Like |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Mike008(m): 5:40pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: What are the other ways God decreed childbearing? |
Re: Is Artificial Insemination A Sin When Done By A Single Lady?? by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Mike008:In Jesus Christ? God didn't decree childbearing. For Pete's sake consider Jesus Christ Himself didn't bear a child at all. If God had infact decreed childbearing wouldn't Jesus Christ have been considered a sinner for flouting such a law? |
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