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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by DeepSight(m): 6:29am On Oct 01, 2022
ken6488:
Do you justify Kosovo, Iraq?

Afghanistan, Libya. . .

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:30am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:
I don't know what morals (he gave examples - to those that watched the video) have got to do with annexing someone's land.

While he is bitter about the dissolution of USSR by Russian politicans of that era, Last time I checked, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Georgia e.t.c are happy to be independent nations and don't see the breakup as a catastrophe. He sees the breakup as catastrophe but those countries don't see it as such.


Will you shut the hell up. So the Donestsk and Luhansk people should be consistently persecuted because they are pro-russian?

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:31am On Oct 01, 2022
Neddstark:


Will you shut the hell up. So the Donestsk and Luhansk people should be consistently persecuted because they are pro-russian?
Because Putin told you so.

Dumbass.

Minks2

Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:31am On Oct 01, 2022
SonOfTheRisingS:
Nnamdi Kanu of Russia



Liberation of Biafra from Nigeria loading...... 99%, hello 2023 Biafraaaaa/Russiaaaaaaa vs Nigeria shocked

Russia is pro-Nigeria. Who sold us weapons to win the war?
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:34am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

You are talking in the rubbish.
MDA's Glide Phase Interceptor is a missile designed to shoot down a hypersonic weapon in the middle (or glide phase) of its flight.

Your chemical weapon will be shot down in the sea before it reaches where it could make any significant impact let alone any radiation tsunami.

Please keep quiet. Anti hypersonic and even supersonic missile interceptors have a success engagement rate of at best 10%. What happens to the rest. Even attacking a missile during your so called glide phase has a number of variables to be successful such as position of the launcher etc. Now with MITWs (multiple Independent Targetable Warheads) like the Satan 1 and 2 as well as a number of Warheads by US, China, Pakistan and co this becomes even more difficult.

Read and learn bri

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:34am On Oct 01, 2022
alabo1:


Please keep quiet. Anti hypersonic and even supersonic missile interceptors have a success engagement rate of at best 10%.
Read and learn bri
Keep your mouth shut. He was talking about using hypersonic for nuclear war head.
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022
DeepSight:


I think the speech was directed at showing up Western hypocrisy. Which is undeniably real and stinks to high heavens. The bit about sex change was just an add-on to show how the west is moving in the direction of moral and social absurdities and depravities. In war, you throw everything at your enemy to show them in the darkest possible light. He never gave sex change as the reason for the war. He has given reasons for that separately. He just said that to make the point that the people claiming the moral high ground are socially depraved.

I hate it when people bring in morality into any arguments, it betrays lack of valid reasons for your positions.
Morality is a social construct that changes between societies, era and circumstances. Moral issues like human sacrifices, slavery, polygamy, homosexualism, prostitution, wars, genocide, fashion, abortion, substance abuse (smoking, marijuana,
drug use,) etc evolves with time even within the same society.

I never supported NATO's expansion to the east. But putin handling of the whole issues left much to be desired.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by tete7000(m): 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022
Dmacqh:
Do we really want, here, in our country, in Russia, instead of ‘mum’ and ‘dad’, to have ‘parent number one’, ‘parent number two’, ‘number three’? Have they gone completely insane?

Do we really want … it drilled into children in our schools … that there are supposedly genders besides women and men, and [children to be] offered the chance to undergo sex change operations? … We have a different future, our own future.”

This may be the downfall of the West.
NB : I don’t support invasion of Ukraine.
As much as western democracy comes with its loads of immorality and decay, socialism is also not free from decay. It is why USSR crumbled. None of the system can save humanity.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

Because Putin told you so.

Dumbass.

Minks2

I have been ardent in international politics way long before you began suckíng phalluses in a bid to get a visa to the US.
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

Another putard. So after the annexation, how has it made Russia safer?

He has secured an additional buffer zone but maybe that is beyond your comprehension. Like I said you bots don't read. I am a historian and analyze without sentiment based on research.

Even talking about safety everyday life in Russia is far better than the US, but of course CNN won't tell you that.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:37am On Oct 01, 2022
Neddstark:


I have been ardent in international politics way long before you began suckíng phalluses in a bid to get a visa to the US.
Dummy. I don't even remember the last time I used a visa to travel let alone apply for one grin

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:38am On Oct 01, 2022
alabo1:


He has secured an additional buffer zone but maybe that is beyond your comprehension. Like I said you bots don't read. I am a historian and analyze without sentiment based on research.

Even talking about safety everyday life in Russia is far better than the US, but of course CNN won't tell you that.
A disputed region as buffer zone or your shallow brain thinks that conflicts will stop in the region because Putin waved a magic wand to annex them. Historian my arse.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:40am On Oct 01, 2022
Johel:



PUTIN is a good man....America is a Satanic country.

So as a black man, what has putin done for you or your country? I am sure satanic America has granted a close family member or friend citizenship to better their lives.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:40am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

Dummy. I don't even remember the last time I used a visa to travel let alone apply for one grin

Say hello to your husband
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2022
wirinet:


So as a black man, what has putin done for you or your country? I am sure satanic America has granted a close family member or friend citizenship to better their lives.
Not only that. The billions of dollars in aid as well.
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2022
Neddstark:


Say hello to your husband
Say hello to your boyfriend too. Fagggot

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by DeepSight(m): 6:43am On Oct 01, 2022
wirinet:


I hate it when people bring in morality into any arguments, it betrays lack of valid reasons for your positions.

Its virtually impossible to avoid moral arguments in any war.

Morality is a social construct that changes between societies, era and circumstances. Moral issues like human sacrifices, slavery, polygamy, homosexualism, prostitution, wars, genocide, fashion, abortion, substance abuse (smoking, marijuana,
drug use,) etc evolves with time even within the same society.

This can be a quaint escapist argument for those nations who have committed abominations in the past. It is also very slippery because who is the judge of that evolution or the timespan required for it. Has there been moral evolution, for example, since the West's fraudulent war in Iraq over non-existent weapons of mass destruction - something which was a deliberate lie and which millions of people globally protested against? Afghanistan nko? Libya nko?

I never supported NATO's expansion to the east. But putin handling of the whole issues left much to be desired.

Agreed. But I must point out one thing: if you are in the habit of "doing anyhow" don't try to lecture your opponent on how to respond to your "anyhowness." Dem sef fit respond with anyhow.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:47am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

Not only that. The billions of dollars in aid as well.
Don't mind them anarchists. They even want to destroy their own destinies along with their country's. Lots of Nigerians have been integrated within the US (and British) political, economic,military and social systems, and a Nigerian is calling Putin an angel and the US Satan. Putin and Russia that hate black Africa like plague.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:47am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

Keep your mouth shut. He was talking about using hypersonic for nuclear war head.

You slowpokes don't know and can't even understand simple English. What was I talking about if not using hypersonic missiles as Warheads? The point I was making is that even with the current supersonic Warheads defence systems are largely ineffective especially with the existence of MITWs. Get it?

Let me repeat slooooowly. There is no current defence system against supersonic as well as hypersonic missiles that has a success rate higher than 20% and note these tests are always done in controlled situations. In real life battles few systems behave optimally. I await your response hopefully after some research

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Enumerator(m): 6:50am On Oct 01, 2022
cheesy
Corridon:
Nigerians suggests that Buhari should wage war against Putin.
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by true2god: 6:51am On Oct 01, 2022
blueAgent:


Without the colonization by the West, you would not have had the privilege to read and write this nonsense you wrote here.

Putin ass licker.

Putin did not mention that some followers of the West have become great and successful nations.
Eg South Korea,Singapore,Malaysia

He did not Mention that it was the West that help stop Apartheid in South Africa, Slavery in Africa and the World, it is also the west that Spread civilisation to Africa and the World.

He putin did not mention how USSR killed tortured and colonised nations to form the USSR.
Neither did he mention the massive killing under his predecessor during Russia's Communist years.

The West are not perfect, they are currently ruled by Satanic Elites bent on achieving New World Order.
Hence the promotion of same sex marriage and transgenderism.

Putin and Russia are not saints.

Go and read about Satlin and Russia's role in the NWO.
I am surprised that sonome can talk and think this way. You must be a white man to have the gut to write this nonsense..

Africa was relatively peaceful because the whites came and destroy this continent. The whites enslaved us, exploit us, colonized us and are still neocolonizing most part of Africa.

You are talking rubbish

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Nobody: 6:52am On Oct 01, 2022
afribookorg:
And the West said Ukraine is winning the war.
this meme no be from halita? grin
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by BentizilL: 6:53am On Oct 01, 2022
nairalee:
I never knew one could be so bold to defy US and the rest of the world and remain standing.
It's only Russia that can do that, both Russia and the West know their weaknesses...
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by pacespot(m): 6:54am On Oct 01, 2022
OceanRed:
then why did the people vote to join Russia? How come the leaders of the region travelled to Moscow to sign the pact?

You mean the Putin imposed leader? You are in Nigeria and you sound like you don't know how this politics works.

Most of the people who voted in the Russia controlled referendum in those regions of Ukraine were coerced to do so, otherwise they risk jail time or seriou consequences if they did not vote along Russian line. How can Putin say he held a referendum for people of Russia descent in another country without any international observers present.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by pacespot(m): 6:55am On Oct 01, 2022
OceanRed:
then why did the people vote to join Russia? How come the leaders of the region travelled to Moscow to sign the pact?

You mean the Putin imposed leaders? You are in Nigeria and you sound like you don't know how this politics thing works.

Most of the people who voted in the Russia controlled referendum in those regions of Ukraine were coerced to do so, otherwise they risk jail time or serious consequences if they did not vote along Russian line. How can Putin say he held a referendum for people of Russia descent in another country without any international observers present.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Guyman01: 6:56am On Oct 01, 2022
DigitalLawyer:


Don’t mind this CNN devotees. Western propaganda sometimes take away common sense from many people. How can you say that Russia lost a battle and yet Russia successfully annexed territory as big as the entire Eastern region in Nigeria.
Territory larger than Netherlands and Belgium have been annexed taken by Russia and CNN is talking about counteroffensive taking villages and calling it victory cheesy

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:56am On Oct 01, 2022
gambojimeta:

A disputed region as buffer zone or your shallow brain thinks that conflicts will stop in the region because Putin waved a magic wand to annex them. Historian my arse.

Those who don't remember history always yap like you. In 2014 I spoke like this about Crimea and your ilk were spouting uninformed positions like this.

I made the following assertion today that the 4 regions like Crimea are gone. Because you lack an understanding of geopolitics you can't see it. It does not matter if the west recognizes the annexation of the regions or not. For Russia they are now Russian territories an any incursion will be treated as an invasion with full consequences.

The west wont risk MAD over those regions or even the whole Ukraine since they are not part of NATO. In order words It's checkmate- the regions declared are under Russian control and further millitary action by Ukraine will be treated as a full scale war with attendance result. Dispute my analysis with a logical one if you can not half baked dismissives

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:58am On Oct 01, 2022
Guyman01:

Territory larger than Netherlands and Belgium have been annexed taken by Russia and CNN is talking about counteroffensive taking villages and calling it victory cheesy
Putin is so afraid of the advances in capturing these villages that he is now sending people trained for one week or two week max to Ukraine. More meat for the grinder.

As we speak, battle is still raging in Lyman which is in the DPR and other parts of the annexed regions. Western bought weapons keep flowing in too.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Guyman01: 7:03am On Oct 01, 2022
Elsueno:


Russia has no choice but to stand ground....it's literally d only military force dat d U.S fears in conventional war fare....The propaganda aside, Russian allied forces are literally battling some of NATO's best commanders in Ukraine....forget d Ukrainians, they are just cannon fodder for their.....China on d other hand is d only country dat d U.S fears economically.....These factors create a kind of balance & keep both NATO & Russia/China in check....Russia most not bow down to NATO otherwise they would eventually be turned cowards like Germany who can't even complain when thier economic life line is blown off
Germany is weak and down and can only stand aside and watch a key pipeline destroyed that will damage their economy

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 7:06am On Oct 01, 2022
DeepSight:


Its virtually impossible to avoid moral arguments in any war.

War is the last place to bring moral arguments. Throughout history morality had never been considered in war until the end of WW2 and the setting up of the Geneva Convention. If you followed the Greek wars, Roman wars, Gengis Khan Mongolian wars, you will see such things as genocide, rape, stealing (war booty), slavery, etc., were considered normal consequences of war. Even in the Bible rape, genocide and slavery were not considered immoral in war.



This can be a quaint escapist argument for those nations who have committed abominations in the past. It is also very slippery because who is the judge of that evolution or the timespan required for it. Has there been moral evolution, for example, since the West's fraudulent war in Iraq over non-existent weapons of mass destruction - something which was a deliberate lie and which millions of people globally protested against? Afghanistan nko? Libya nko?
As I said, exploitation of other people's land and resources had been an integral part of human history. Stronger and more cohesive societies exploit the weaknesses of weaker societies to their advantage. That's why the England, a people with land the size of yoruba land was able to conquer India, a whole continent and half the world. If Gadaffi had not weakened the political and social structure of the Libyan society so he could remain in power perpetually and the hand over to his son, the West would not have been able to exploit the division created.



Agreed. But I must point out one thing: if you are in the habit of "doing anyhow" don't try to lecture your opponent on how to respond to your "anyhowness." Dem sef fit respond with anyhow.

I don't subscribe to the doctrine of whataboutism. Which is because someone else had done it justifies my doing same also.

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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Skty: 7:08am On Oct 01, 2022
wirinet:

Which yeye super power. Let them prove their super power onthe battle field instead of threatening everybody with nuclear

Lol ...I even join like ur comment...nor be lie...let the do that at the battle field
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by timesupreloaded: 7:11am On Oct 01, 2022
Offpointng:



Is Nigerian army gallancy a joke to you?? Ukraine just bout the size of Osun state is giving Russia tough season like this, you think he'll just crush Nigeria like it don't military might?? you must be joking
Ukraine about the size of Osun? lol. Your brain don malfunction. Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe excluding Russia.

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