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Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by LordReed(m): 1:38pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Your Bible is simply a compendium of books written by different authors over different time periods, all as a way to convey their individual message regarding God and the things of God to those who will listen. undecided

To suggest the book needs updating is to reveal stack ignorance of what is in fact contained in the pages of the book. undecided
Huh? But you disregard at least 13 books of this compendium, isn't that an editorialisation?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:59pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Was Peter filled with and led by the Holy Spirit before the Pentecost?
Ọmọ even after the pentecost Peter was led by the demon of racism {Galatians 2:11-14} what do you think Paul used to convince Peter that something is wrong?
Well it's the written word of God:

You will then rejoice over all the good that Jehovah your God has given you and your household, you and the Levite and the foreign resident who is among you. Deuteronomy 26:11

The gentiles who has accepted Christ is no longer a pagan so they can eat and drink together with such ones but which spirit led Peter and the others to display that racist attitude?
God's Holy Spirit or a demonic spirit controlling unbelieving Jews? smiley
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by cornelboy(f): 2:05pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Truth is a spirit (the source), not just written words (the product).
If all the books and writing materials in the world are burned up, will the truth cease to exist?
Nevertheless the only book inspired by God available today is the Bible.

Those that had connection with the source wrote what we have today as Bible (product).
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by cornelboy(f): 2:08pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
God’s religion is my religion, that’s if He has one. (But we know He doesn’t)
I’m into TRUTH.
Lol God gave Moses a religion for his people.
And now he also established another form of worship through Christ his son.

So what truth are you into exactly.
Pls kindly share it with us.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:16pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol God gave Moses a religion for his people.
And now he also established another form of worship through Christ his son.

So what truth are you into exactly.
Pls kindly share it with us.
Which religion did Adam, Enoch or Abraham or Job practice?
Are you prioritizing religious beliefs over a personal relationship with the ALMIGHTY?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:17pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Nevertheless the only book inspired by God available today is the Bible.

Those that had connection with the source wrote what we have today as Bible (product).
Were these books inspired by the figments of men's imaginations?
1) The Annals of King David - referenced in 1 Chronicles 27 v 24.
2) The Acts of Solomon - referenced in 1 Kings 11 v 41.
3) The Acts of Samuel the Seer - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29.
4) The book of Nathan the Prophet - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29 and 2 Chronicles 9 v 29.
5) The book of Gad the Seer - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29
6) The book of Jehu - referenced in 2 Chronicles 20 v 34
7) The Acts of Uzziah - referenced in 2 Chronicles 26 v 22
8 ) The vision of Isaiah - referenced in 2 Chronicles 32 v 32
9) The sayings of the Seer, also known as the Sayings of Hozai - referenced in 2 Chronicles 33 v 19
10) The book of Jasher - referenced in Joshua 10 v 13 and 2 Samuel 1 v 18
11) The book of Shemaiah the Prophet - referenced in 2 Chronicles 12 v 15
12) The book of the Wars of the Lord - referenced in Numbers 21 v 14
13) The book of Enoch - referenced in Jude 1 v 4,6,13,14,15 and 2 Peter 2 v 4, 3 v 13


The dead sea scrolls?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:18pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol God gave Moses a religion for his people.
And now he also established another form of worship through Christ his son.

So what truth are you into exactly.
Pls kindly share it with us.
What truth am I into? Does truth have a religious affiliation or leaning?

Is God not the truth and the truth God?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:19pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ even after the pentecost Peter was led by the demon of racism {Galatians 2:11-14} what do you think Paul used to convince Peter that something is wrong?
Well it's the written word of God:

You will then rejoice over all the good that Jehovah your God has given you and your household, you and the Levite and the foreign resident who is among you. Deuteronomy 26:11

The gentiles who has accepted Christ is no longer a pagan so they can eat and drink together with such ones but which spirit led Peter and the others to display that racist attitude?
God's Holy Spirit or a demonic spirit controlling unbelieving Jews? smiley
You're missing my question.

Can you obey the Holy Spirit and Satan AT THE SAME TIME?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:20pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol God gave Moses a religion for his people.
And now he also established another form of worship through Christ his son.
So what truth are you into exactly.
Pls kindly share it with us.
Satan is fighting really tough {1Peter 5:8} to get as many as possible into atheism so no church today can stand the heat except Jehovah's organization! 1Peter 1:7
So all forms of standards established by man is collapsing globally, false religions based on man's wisdom are falling away {Revelations 6:16; Luke 23:30} that's why most Churchgoers are ashamed to speak about the doctrines of their churches because they're already aware that it's not producing anything worthwhile.
But watch them closely all they're expecting from JWs is to do the same to our own source of divine guidance whereas we know that the Governing Body are the spiritual Jews {Zechariah 8:23} or Jesus' spiritual brothers who are serving as the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45

OkCornel love to be called a worshiper of God but i will continue to tell him that if he's not with us he can't be a worshiper of our own God {Luke 11:23} because you can only be one of us when you're doing the WORK with us! James 2:18-26 wink
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
You're missing my question.
Can you obey the Holy Spirit and Satan AT THE SAME TIME?
You're deflecting! wink

The point is anyone can be misled by Satan if you're not sticking to the TRUTH which is the WRITTEN words of God: Bible! smiley
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:25pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're deflecting! wink

The point is anyone can be misled by Satan if you're not sticking to the TRUTH which is the WRITTEN words of God: Bible! smiley
I'm pretty sure I wrote the words "AT THE SAME TIME" in all the instances I asked this question.
There was never any deflection at any point. If anything, helping you to understand my question better.

Was Peter filled and led by the Holy Spirit before the pentecost?
Can one be led by the Holy Spirit and be deceived AT THE SAME TIME? 1 John 2 v 26-27
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:26pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Satan is fighting really tough {1Peter 5:8} to get as many as possible into atheism so no church today can stand the heat except Jehovah's organization! 1Peter 1:7
So all forms of standards established by man is collapsing globally, false religions based on man's wisdom are falling away {Revelations 6:16; Luke 23:30} that's why most Churchgoers are ashamed to speak about the doctrines of their churches because they're already aware that it's not producing anything worthwhile.
But watch them closely all they're expecting from JWs is to do the same to our own source of divine guidance whereas we know that the Governing Body are the spiritual Jews {Zechariah 8:23} or Jesus' spiritual brothers who are serving as the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45

OkCornel love to be called a worshiper of God but i will continue to tell him that if he's not with us he can't be a worshiper of our own God {Luke 11:23} because you can only be one of us when you're doing the WORK with us! James 2:18-26 wink
Luke 9 v 49-50;
49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”

50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:38pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Luke 9 v 49-50;
49 “Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”

50 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”
Jesus has not established any group when his disciples did that but after pentecost all those claiming believers throughout the earth must be in subjection to the decrees made by the Apostles {Act 2:42} and for your information that's what Jesus meant when he said:

"I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

So don't be deceived if you're not one of those working with the GOVERNING BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you can't possibly be a worshiper of our God! wink
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 2:46pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus has not established any group when his disciples did that but after pentecost all those claiming believers throughout the earth must be in subjection to the decrees made by the Apostles {Act 2:42} and for your information that's what Jesus meant when he said:

"I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

So don't be deceived if you're not one of those working with the GOVERNING BODY of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you can't possibly be a worshiper of our God! wink
His words were unconditional. “Anyone who is not against you is for you”
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:53pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
His words were unconditional. “Anyone who is not against you is for you”
As long as you're not with us doing the work we aren't on the same page with you!

You must be baptized as one of us after studying with us and agreeing with all terms and conditions binding us together as ONE! smiley
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by Kobojunkie: 3:41pm On Oct 28, 2022
LordReed:
Huh? But you disregard at least 13 books of this compendium, isn't that an editorialisation?
I do not "disregard" any book out there. So I have no clue what your are churning there. undecided
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 3:42pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
As long as you're not with us doing the work we aren't on the same page with you!

You must be baptized as one of us after studying with us and agreeing with all terms and conditions binding us together as ONE! smiley
The man that casted out that demon in Jesus’ name… did he jump through these hoops?

Only the pure in heart will see God.

If the heart isn’t right, all these other requirements are pointless.

Note - I’m not in anyway disputing with you. Apologies if you have that impression, it’s not my intention.

Stay blessed.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
The man that casted out that demon in Jesus’ name… did he jump through these hoops?

Only the pure in heart will see God.

If the heart isn’t right, all these other requirements are pointless.

Note - I’m not in anyway disputing with you. Apologies if you have that impression, it’s not my intention.

Stay blessed.
Your heart means nothing to Jesus if you're not ready to join his group! Luke 18:22

So give up all your ego and humbly join us or hold on to your own god, we're not on the same page! wink
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 4:15pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Your heart means nothing to Jesus if you're not ready to join his group! Luke 18:22

So give up all your ego and humbly join us or hold on to your own god, we're not on the same page! wink
Matthew 5 v 8;
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. smiley
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by LordReed(m): 4:26pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I do not "disregard" any book out there. So I have no clue what your are churning there. undecided
You have repeatedly said you do not hold with what Paul wrote so yes you disregard the 13 books attributed to Paul.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by Kobojunkie: 4:28pm On Oct 28, 2022
LordReed:
You have repeatedly said you do not hold with what Paul wrote so yes you disregard the 13 books attributed to Paul.
Paul's opinions I respect as his opinions much the same as I respect your opinions here. I do not disregard his opinions in the same way I do not disregard your opinions here. undecided
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by LordReed(m): 4:39pm On Oct 28, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Paul's opinions I respect as his opinions much the same as I respect your opinions here. I do not disregard his opinions in the same way I do not disregard your opinions here. undecided
You don't believe what Paul wrote so how exactly do you regard them? Especially during discourse you have repeatly said Paul's writings should not be quoted at you. I am not seeing how you regard them.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by Kobojunkie: 4:41pm On Oct 28, 2022
LordReed:
You don't believe what Paul wrote so how exactly do you regard them? Especially during discourse you have repeatly said Paul's writings should be quoted at you. I am not seeing how you regard them.
Everyone has opinions....if we go around believing the opinions of others wouldn't that make us all imbe_ciles? undecided

Again, Paul's opinions I respect as his opinions much the same as I respect your opinions here. I do not disregard his opinions in the same way I do not disregard your opinions here. undecided
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by VenumX: 6:01pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Your heart means nothing to Jesus if you're not ready to join his group! Luke 18:22

So give up all your ego and humbly join us or hold on to your own god, we're not on the same page! wink
Join who? Homosexuals and child r@pists?

You need to be beaten to stupor. Mad creature.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Matthew 5 v 8;
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. smiley
This verse refers to members of the Christian congregation whose hearts God reads due to their steadfastness. But the first thing that makes us members of God's family is humility because without this quality each person will continue claiming they're pure in heart yet there will be contradictions everywhere due to lack of humble spirit! smiley
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by cornelboy(f): 7:36pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
What truth am I into? Does truth have a religious affiliation or leaning?
Is God not the truth and the truth God?
Lol. I don't understand what you mean by "God is the truth".

Jehovah God of the Hebrews is the true and God and the creator of all life.

He revealed things to his prophets and everything he revealed we regard as truth.

The God I know gave his people religion or a way of worship. You probably are into a different God.

Pls kindly tell us who your God is. Thanks.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by cornelboy(f): 7:39pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Were these books inspired by the figments of men's imaginations?
1) The Annals of King David - referenced in 1 Chronicles 27 v 24.
2) The Acts of Solomon - referenced in 1 Kings 11 v 41.
3) The Acts of Samuel the Seer - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29.
4) The book of Nathan the Prophet - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29 and 2 Chronicles 9 v 29.
5) The book of Gad the Seer - referenced in 1 Chronicles 29 v 29
6) The book of Jehu - referenced in 2 Chronicles 20 v 34
7) The Acts of Uzziah - referenced in 2 Chronicles 26 v 22
8 ) The vision of Isaiah - referenced in 2 Chronicles 32 v 32
9) The sayings of the Seer, also known as the Sayings of Hozai - referenced in 2 Chronicles 33 v 19
10) The book of Jasher - referenced in Joshua 10 v 13 and 2 Samuel 1 v 18
11) The book of Shemaiah the Prophet - referenced in 2 Chronicles 12 v 15
12) The book of the Wars of the Lord - referenced in Numbers 21 v 14
13) The book of Enoch - referenced in Jude 1 v 4,6,13,14,15 and 2 Peter 2 v 4, 3 v 13
The dead sea scrolls?
They might have been inspired or not.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by cornelboy(f): 7:50pm On Oct 28, 2022
OkCornel:
Which religion did Adam, Enoch or Abraham or Job practice?
Are you prioritizing religious beliefs over a personal relationship with the ALMIGHTY?
Which religion did Moses and the Israelites practice and who gave them the religion?

The early church also had their religion, who were they worshipping and who gave them the way of worship?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 8:05pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Which religion did Moses and the Israelites practice and who gave them the religion?

The early church also had their religion, who were they worshipping and who gave them the way of worship?
Which religion did God give man to reach out to Him? Are you really listening to yourself?

Did Adam, Enoch or Abraham or Job have a religion?

Or was it more of a faith driven and personal relationship with the ALMIGHTY.
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m):
cornelboy:
They might have been inspired or not.
Just like the 66 books and the Apocrypha right? undecided

If they might have been inspired, then why do you regard the 66 books of the Bible as the complete word of God?

Sounds like mental conditioning to me…
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 8:07pm On Oct 28, 2022
cornelboy:
Lol. I don't understand what you mean by "God is the truth".

Jehovah God of the Hebrews is the true and God and the creator of all life.

He revealed things to his prophets and everything he revealed we regard as truth.

The God I know gave his people religion or a way of worship. You probably are into a different God.

Pls kindly tell us who your God is. Thanks.
My God is Truth. How is this too hard for you to comprehend?

Does Truth (God) belong to a religion?
Is Truth (God) limited to what is written? Or is Truth (God) a Spirit?
Re: Does The Bible Need An Update? | Ep. 101 by OkCornel(m): 8:11pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This verse refers to members of the Christian congregation whose hearts God reads due to their steadfastness. But the first thing that makes us members of God's family is humility because without this quality each person will continue claiming they're pure in heart yet there will be contradictions everywhere due to lack of humble spirit! smiley
So there were Christians on the planet when Jesus preached the sermon on the Mount?

By the way, do you recall what happened to Simon the sorcerer despite being baptised, believed the gospel and followed the Apostles around? He was scolded for trying to purchase the Holy Spirit with money, and told to repent because HIS HEART was not right with God.

Bible studies and baptism is pointless if one’s heart isn’t pure and right before God.
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