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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 6:40pm On Oct 29, 2022
Is allah wahid or ahad?

Will Madhi be a messenger, a messiah, a prophet or a sender.
haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the point of death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 6:45pm On Oct 29, 2022
FxMasterz:
Sahih Bukhari , Book 23, Number 329:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

Sixfiguresmart and TenQ should kindly help them out.
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 6:45pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Is allah wahid or ahad?

Will Madhi be a messenger, a messiah, a prophet or a sender.
is Jehovah wahid or ahad?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:55pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Hahaha how can I convert so that I can commit sexual immorality the way that I like and eventually get into paradise?

Will it be possible to thigh a 6 year old girl there and have sex with a 9 year old like mohammed did?

I also want to know if it will be possible to meet the allah that allah prays to and also have allah pray to me like he prayed to mohammed.

Lastly, if I convert would it be possible for mohammed to kiss my penis like he did Hassan and Hussein, and can allah blow into into my vagina like he did Mary?
The hallmark of Islam is lies: plenty of it. Even they don't trust their own hadiths

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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Lawag3: 6:55pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:
The authentication of hadiths are done and is well known unlike the Bible. No one is claiming they are from Jews or Christians so stop off-points.

You lack even the smallest knowledge of the science of hadiths so i will especially tell you to keep shut in this regard. Don't go past your pay grade! Your opinion is wholly false. Fabricated hadiths are clear from Authentic ones to those with the knowledge not an holy spirit liar.

Chai. Hadiths is more like words attributed to the Prophet with the narrators and transmitters. All the people involved are screened specially. I don't think you can even understand even if i explain as the Bible does not not have such authentication. Holy Spirit don carry everything!

None is embarrassing to me. Your Bible may be.

For example how can your God get 32 virgins as tribute out of 16000 virgins of war in Numbers 31:40 after all their families male and young were killed off?

They were given to the priest and Levites
The women were taken as spoils after the war with Midyan along with a large number of livestock.

When the warriors Moses gave very specific instructions on how the spoils should be divided. Everything was to be divided into 2 equal parts; one part went to the 12,000 warriors and the other went to the Israelites who stayed in the camp (even though this seems unfair, keep in mind that there were only 12,000 warriors while there were about 600,000 Israelites who stayed behind so the warriors got a larger share per person).

The warriors had to give 1/500th of their spoils as a tribute to the priests (who didn't take part in the campaign) while the rest of the Israelites had to give 1/50th. Being that there were 32,000 women taken captive who were divided into two equal parts of 16,000, that leaves us with a tribute of 32 women from the warriors (16,000/500) and 320 from the rest of the Israelites (16,000/50). So the total of women the priests got as their part in the spoils was actually 352.

The Torah doesn't tell us what the priests did with those women (just like it doesn't tell us what the Israelites did with theirs, or with the livestock for that matter). Presumably they were taken as servants.

If any of the Israelites would want to marry one of the women the laws in Deuteronomy 21:10-14 would presumably apply.

The reason why only virgins are mentioned can be understood based on Numbers 31:13-18, for context on that see Numbers 25.
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:57pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:


If you read the others i posted up their your brain will be updated and resettled.
If not then you're irredeemably irreparable!
It doesn't answer this
1. Does this particular hadith need a special interpretation?
2. What else do you think the hadith means?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:59pm On Oct 29, 2022
[quote author=Ola260 post=117971668][/quote]
Muslims have been afraid of the truth since I posted this!

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

The truth will set you free
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:01pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
I am wondering too but I need to ask antichristian. Antichristian, kindly let us know who numbered the quran and arranged the chapters.

Who ordered the Abbasid to write the Hadith?

Where is the family lineage of mohammed today since someone from his family will be the last prophet? The one that allah will SEND in mohammed's family, is he a messenger or a prophet?

Antichristian and Lukuluku69, kindly tell Tenq if the quran was HANDED down to mohamed or DICTATED.

FxMasterz would also want to hear from you guys whether the quran was recited during mohammed's lifetime since he continued receiving revelations during the night that he had an all-night sex romp with an 18 year old teenager and died on top her.

When allah said 'worship allah', was he talking to himself or to mohammed? In other verses was he talking to himself or to mohammed? How do we distinguish when allah is referring to himself and who determines that?

Are the words in the Hadith from allah or men? When you follow it, are you following allah or men?

Please ask them o: was it Allah that authorized the rearrangement of the perfect word of Allah?

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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:02pm On Oct 29, 2022
Ola260:

Now I know who exactly u are.
I don't have to engage u in conversation.
"إِنَّ عيسى". I seek refuge from shaytan the cursed one
You don't need to engyme in any conversation, you only need to ask WHY they are all hiding information from you

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:05pm On Oct 29, 2022
haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

Saved by grace means saved by GOD's MERCY because no one can pay for his sin against God!
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:27pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

Saved by grace means saved by GOD's MERCY because no one can pay for his sin against God!

the Hadith teaches repentance of sin then get saved by Gods mercy ..
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 7:28pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

You don't need to engyme in any conversation, you only need to ask WHY they are all hiding information from you

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥


That y I said u should ask your pastor when u go dance and clap tomorrow.
The only I can render here is to provide the authentic verse. Your pastors that wrote those rubbish should help you tomorrow.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا﴾
[ الأحزاب
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:29pm On Oct 29, 2022
You cannot answer for your allah. I asked you cos Antichristian said that allah is ahad while myislam said wahid. So, I need your confirmation.

again can you throw more light on mahdi. Is he a prophet a messenger or a messiah?

Is islam a family affair?
haekymbahd:
is Jehovah wahid or ahad?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:30pm On Oct 29, 2022
So the hadith that he posted earlier is wrong. Ain't it?
haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:33pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
So the hadith that he posted earlier is wrong. Ain't it?
it wasn't wrong he didn't understand it and I explained to him...
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:36pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
You cannot answer for your allah. I asked you cos Antichristian said that allah is ahad while myislam said wahid. So, I need your confirmation.

again can you throw more light on mahdi. Is he a prophet a messenger or a messiah?

Is islam a family affair?
when you answer whether Jehovah is wahid or ahad there lies your answer...

Prophet Muhammad will be the last prophet simple so use your head..

Messiah was already ordained a prophet before prophet Muhammad...

In John 1:19-28, John the Baptist is asked if he is Elijah, and he denies that he is Elijah (or the Prophet or the Christ).

He isn't comming as a prophet but Christ even the Jews knows this....
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by FxMasterz: 8:02pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
They do not care about your love. Just pound them with the truth. the older ones are locked in the bad ways. the younger ones are more critical of the lies. Pound him hard. He is vicious. Look at his moves. He is not playing. He comes really hard and look at his pseudonym. that man can kill you if granted the chance. do not be lenient at all with them. they need tough love.

Smiles. I got it.
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:04pm On Oct 29, 2022
AntiChristian:
The authentication of hadiths are done and is well known unlike the Bible. No one is claiming they are from Jews or Christians so stop off-points.

You lack even the smallest knowledge of the science of hadiths so i will especially tell you to keep shut in this regard. Don't go past your pay grade! Your opinion is wholly false. Fabricated hadiths are clear from Authentic ones to those with the knowledge not an holy spirit liar.

Chai. Hadiths is more like words attributed to the Prophet with the narrators and transmitters. All the people involved are screened specially. I don't think you can even understand even if i explain as the Bible does not not have such authentication. Holy Spirit don carry everything!

None is embarrassing to me. Your Bible may be.

For example how can your God get 32 virgins as tribute out of 16000 virgins of war in Numbers 31:40 after all their families male and young were killed off?

A. There are just three categories of your hadith
1. Sahih (Sound)
2. Hassan (Good)
3. Daif (Weak)

There is no grade of hadith called FABRICATION/FABRICATED!

The fact that a hadith is rated Daif does not make it a fabrication or untrue. If a hadith is a Fabrication, what is it doing in your books.

B. You Muslims can't do without your hadiths because some of your hadiths is actually superior to the Qur'an. If you claim I lie, Ill give you two examples
1. The Qur'an says Pray THREE times a day: the hadith abrogated the Qur'an and fixed the times of prayer to FIVE
2. Mutah (Temporary Marriage or Prostitution) was legalised in the Qur'an but abrogated by the hadith

Therefore, your hadith is even more powerful than you think.

C. Finally, on Numbers 31:41, I guess you need to suggest what you think the maidens were used for. LOL!
You sure indeed have a perverted mind!

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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:29pm On Oct 29, 2022
Ola260:

That y I said u should ask your pastor when u go dance and clap tomorrow.
The only I can render here is to provide the authentic verse. Your pastors that wrote those rubbish should help you tomorrow.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا﴾
[ الأحزاب
I never insinuated that the Arabic verse was a Qur'an and indeed it is NOT Qur'an. I am puzzled that Muslims flee like there is no tomorrow when asked to translate the Arabic.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 8:35pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

I never insinuated that the Arabic verse was a Qur'an and indeed it is NOT Qur'an. I am puzzled that Muslims flee like there is no tomorrow when asked to translate the Arabic.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥
And why should any Muslim bother to translate the rubbish you forged. Anyone in his right sense knows what u have there is not the real verse. U can still ask your pastors when u go clap and dance tomorrow sha
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:38pm On Oct 29, 2022
haekymbahd:
the Hadith teaches repentance of sin then get saved by Gods mercy ..
Is this true or another Taqqiyya?

Sahih Muslim 2658 a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the ears is listening to voluptuous (song or talk) and the adultery of the tongue is licentious speech and the adultery of the hand is the lustful grip (embrace) and the adultery of the feet is to walk (to the place) where he intends to commit adultery and the heart yearns and desires which he may or may not put into effect.


This hadith seem to say differently sir!
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2022
Ola260:

And why should any Muslim bother to translate the rubbish you forged. Anyone in his right sense knows what u have there is not the real verse. U can still ask your pastors when u go clap and dance tomorrow sha
Like I said, I NEVER ever claimed that this is Qur'an. It is just a sentence in Arabic. It is NOT any verse in the Qur'an.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Is it a complex Arabic?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:47pm On Oct 29, 2022
haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the point of death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

Are you saying that

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B
ABROGATED
Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 : ?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 8:53pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

Like I said, I NEVER ever claimed that this is Qur'an. It is just a sentence in Arabic. It is NOT any verse in the Qur'an.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Is it a complex Arabic?
And like Ive said before too, u can table it before your pastors tomorrow after dancing and clapping.
I’m sure they wrote it for u.
Again, Arabic is just a language and can be learned by anyone. So u can as well help your if your fellow dancers can’t help u.
Thanks
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Truvelisback(m): 8:53pm On Oct 29, 2022
FxMasterz:
Sahih Bukhari , Book 23, Number 329:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

Sixfiguresmart and TenQ should kindly help them out.
Muslims believes ablution(washing their hands, mouth, legs and different parts of their body with water) cleanses them from whatever sin they might have committed.
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:


Are you saying that

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B
ABROGATED
Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 : ?

No, I am saying it even explains it better....
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 9:18pm On Oct 29, 2022
haekymbahd:
No, I am saying it even explains it better....
But they are separate hadiths.

One Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas and the other by Narrated Abu Dhar from different occasions.

How do we know which of the two hadiths explain the other?
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2022
Ola260:

And like Ive said before too, u can table it before your pastors tomorrow after dancing and clapping.
I’m sure they wrote it for u.
Again, Arabic is just a language and can be learned by anyone. So u can as well help your if your fellow dancers can’t help u.
Thanks
I actually wrote it by myself. If you check, you've NEVER ever come across such a sentence. I noticed that ALL Muslims seem to be AFRAID of translating it and the Christians especially the pastor's cayn speak Arabic.

Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:26pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

Is this true or another Taqqiyya?

Sahih Muslim 2658 a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the ears is listening to voluptuous (song or talk) and the adultery of the tongue is licentious speech and the adultery of the hand is the lustful grip (embrace) and the adultery of the feet is to walk (to the place) where he intends to commit adultery and the heart yearns and desires which he may or may not put into effect.


This hadith seem to say differently sir!
Do you believe in destiny?

Allah knows what one will become before being born .. destiny can be changed by evil forces so we all need to follow instructions/commandment from God to make sure our destiny changes for good.

God has sent prophets and messages whosoever follows the prophets and message will be saved, following Gods commandment takes ones heart away from immoral activities even if it is ones Destiny.

So destinies can change for good and whosoever repents and follow Gods commandment will make paradise..
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:31pm On Oct 29, 2022
TenQ:

But they are separate hadiths.

One Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas and the other by Narrated Abu Dhar from different occasions.

How do we know which of the two hadiths explain the other?
From the Quran we know this

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 268)



Morover the Hadith is a report from the same person so it is logical that he would have the same point of view....
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 9:32pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."


Truvelisback:
Muslims believes ablution(washing their hands, mouth, legs and different parts of their body with water) cleanses them from whatever sin they might have committed.
A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart.

islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble.

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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 9:33pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."


A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart.

islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble.
FxMasterz:


Smiles. I got it.

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