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Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 6:40pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Is allah wahid or ahad? Will Madhi be a messenger, a messiah, a prophet or a sender. haekymbahd: |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 6:45pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
FxMasterz:Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification... Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 6:45pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart:is Jehovah wahid or ahad? |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:55pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart:The hallmark of Islam is lies: plenty of it. Even they don't trust their own hadiths 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Lawag3: 6:55pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
AntiChristian: They were given to the priest and Levites The women were taken as spoils after the war with Midyan along with a large number of livestock. When the warriors Moses gave very specific instructions on how the spoils should be divided. Everything was to be divided into 2 equal parts; one part went to the 12,000 warriors and the other went to the Israelites who stayed in the camp (even though this seems unfair, keep in mind that there were only 12,000 warriors while there were about 600,000 Israelites who stayed behind so the warriors got a larger share per person). The warriors had to give 1/500th of their spoils as a tribute to the priests (who didn't take part in the campaign) while the rest of the Israelites had to give 1/50th. Being that there were 32,000 women taken captive who were divided into two equal parts of 16,000, that leaves us with a tribute of 32 women from the warriors (16,000/500) and 320 from the rest of the Israelites (16,000/50). So the total of women the priests got as their part in the spoils was actually 352. The Torah doesn't tell us what the priests did with those women (just like it doesn't tell us what the Israelites did with theirs, or with the livestock for that matter). Presumably they were taken as servants. If any of the Israelites would want to marry one of the women the laws in Deuteronomy 21:10-14 would presumably apply. The reason why only virgins are mentioned can be understood based on Numbers 31:13-18, for context on that see Numbers 25. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:57pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
AntiChristian:It doesn't answer this 1. Does this particular hadith need a special interpretation? 2. What else do you think the hadith means? |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 6:59pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
[quote author=Ola260 post=117971668][/quote] Muslims have been afraid of the truth since I posted this! Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence? إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ٥ The truth will set you free |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:01pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart:Please ask them o: was it Allah that authorized the rearrangement of the perfect word of Allah? 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:02pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Ola260:You don't need to engyme in any conversation, you only need to ask WHY they are all hiding information from you Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence? إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ٥ |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 7:05pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
haekymbahd:Saved by grace means saved by GOD's MERCY because no one can pay for his sin against God! |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:27pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:the Hadith teaches repentance of sin then get saved by Gods mercy .. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 7:28pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ: That y I said u should ask your pastor when u go dance and clap tomorrow. The only I can render here is to provide the authentic verse. Your pastors that wrote those rubbish should help you tomorrow. إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا﴾ [ الأحزاب |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:29pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
You cannot answer for your allah. I asked you cos Antichristian said that allah is ahad while myislam said wahid. So, I need your confirmation. again can you throw more light on mahdi. Is he a prophet a messenger or a messiah? Is islam a family affair? haekymbahd: |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 7:30pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
So the hadith that he posted earlier is wrong. Ain't it? haekymbahd: |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:33pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart:it wasn't wrong he didn't understand it and I explained to him... |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 7:36pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart:when you answer whether Jehovah is wahid or ahad there lies your answer... Prophet Muhammad will be the last prophet simple so use your head.. Messiah was already ordained a prophet before prophet Muhammad... In John 1:19-28, John the Baptist is asked if he is Elijah, and he denies that he is Elijah (or the Prophet or the Christ). He isn't comming as a prophet but Christ even the Jews knows this.... |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by FxMasterz: 8:02pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart: Smiles. I got it. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:04pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
AntiChristian: A. There are just three categories of your hadith 1. Sahih (Sound) 2. Hassan (Good) 3. Daif (Weak) There is no grade of hadith called FABRICATION/FABRICATED! The fact that a hadith is rated Daif does not make it a fabrication or untrue. If a hadith is a Fabrication, what is it doing in your books. B. You Muslims can't do without your hadiths because some of your hadiths is actually superior to the Qur'an. If you claim I lie, Ill give you two examples 1. The Qur'an says Pray THREE times a day: the hadith abrogated the Qur'an and fixed the times of prayer to FIVE 2. Mutah (Temporary Marriage or Prostitution) was legalised in the Qur'an but abrogated by the hadith Therefore, your hadith is even more powerful than you think. C. Finally, on Numbers 31:41, I guess you need to suggest what you think the maidens were used for. LOL! You sure indeed have a perverted mind! 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:29pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Ola260:I never insinuated that the Arabic verse was a Qur'an and indeed it is NOT Qur'an. I am puzzled that Muslims flee like there is no tomorrow when asked to translate the Arabic. Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence? إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ٥ |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 8:35pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:And why should any Muslim bother to translate the rubbish you forged. Anyone in his right sense knows what u have there is not the real verse. U can still ask your pastors when u go clap and dance tomorrow sha |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:38pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
haekymbahd:Is this true or another Taqqiyya? Sahih Muslim 2658 a Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the ears is listening to voluptuous (song or talk) and the adultery of the tongue is licentious speech and the adultery of the hand is the lustful grip (embrace) and the adultery of the feet is to walk (to the place) where he intends to commit adultery and the heart yearns and desires which he may or may not put into effect. This hadith seem to say differently sir! |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Ola260:Like I said, I NEVER ever claimed that this is Qur'an. It is just a sentence in Arabic. It is NOT any verse in the Qur'an. Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence? إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ٥ Is it a complex Arabic? |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 8:47pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
haekymbahd: Are you saying that Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B ABROGATED Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 : ? |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Ola260: 8:53pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:And like Ive said before too, u can table it before your pastors tomorrow after dancing and clapping. I’m sure they wrote it for u. Again, Arabic is just a language and can be learned by anyone. So u can as well help your if your fellow dancers can’t help u. Thanks |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Truvelisback(m): 8:53pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
FxMasterz:Muslims believes ablution(washing their hands, mouth, legs and different parts of their body with water) cleanses them from whatever sin they might have committed. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:No, I am saying it even explains it better.... |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 9:18pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
haekymbahd:But they are separate hadiths. One Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas and the other by Narrated Abu Dhar from different occasions. How do we know which of the two hadiths explain the other? |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by TenQ: 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Ola260:I actually wrote it by myself. If you check, you've NEVER ever come across such a sentence. I noticed that ALL Muslims seem to be AFRAID of translating it and the Christians especially the pastor's cayn speak Arabic. Can you please honestly translate this Arabic sentence? إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ٥ |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:26pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:Do you believe in destiny? Allah knows what one will become before being born .. destiny can be changed by evil forces so we all need to follow instructions/commandment from God to make sure our destiny changes for good. God has sent prophets and messages whosoever follows the prophets and message will be saved, following Gods commandment takes ones heart away from immoral activities even if it is ones Destiny. So destinies can change for good and whosoever repents and follow Gods commandment will make paradise.. |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by haekymbahd(m): 9:31pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
TenQ:From the Quran we know this Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: "Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 268) Morover the Hadith is a report from the same person so it is logical that he would have the same point of view.... |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 9:32pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601 Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you." Truvelisback:A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart. islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble. 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim Will Enter Paradise Even If He Commits Theft Or Adultery by Sixfiguresmart(m): 9:33pm On Oct 29, 2022 |
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601 Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you." A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart. islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble. FxMasterz: |
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