NairalandMD:

4: same Allah in arabic is the same Jehovah in jewish, it's all sounds different according to our languages

Christians and Muslims don't serve the same God. The God of Islam is call Al-Lah. Al-Lah means, the god Lah. Lah is the moon � god. He is the chief god among the 360 gods in the Kabba. He has 3 daughters called Manat, Uzzat and Allat.

U are all being decieved all u hypocrite

TenQ:

Google is your friend my dear!

Don't shut your eyes against the TRUTH?

How come you not using that same google to learn about your religion and deity?

Is google not your friend?

dexmond:


Christians and Muslims don't serve the same God. The God of Islam is call Al-Lah. Al-Lah means, the god Lah. Lah is the moon � god. He is the chief god among the 360 gods in the Kabba. He has 3 daughters called Manat, Uzzat and Allat.

God of Christians is called yahweh, Israelite god, son of El and asheera.

Ola260:

Your God and his followers praises the devil.
Can u pls explain this to me too

What you translated was
إلهكم وأتباعه يمدحون الشيطان.

I asked you to translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Sixfiguresmart:
absolutely. They burn the words of their allah

And they will kill others if they accidentally tear the pages of the Qur'an!

TenQ:

What you translated was
إلهكم وأتباعه يمدحون الشيطان.

I asked you to translate this Arabic sentence?

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

So u know how to use google translator.
The google can translate the rubbish sentence u came up with too.
It will as well benefit your fellow dancers too today, so pls don’t forget to share with them

Ola260:

So u know how to use google translator.
The google can translate the rubbish sentence u came up with too.
It will as well benefit your fellow dancers too today, so pls don’t forget to share with them

Can you explain why you seem to be afraid of translating the phrase below

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

TenQ:


Can you explain why you seem to be afraid of translating the phrase below

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Pls what if kind of dullard are u now.
U came up with a rubbish and still expect someone to explain to u.

Maynman:


God of Christians is called yahweh, Israelite god, son of El and asheera.

The God of Christians is called Yahweh. He is the God of Israel. He is not the son of El and Asheera.

What I said about Allah is true. We know that Qurayshi were pagans. Even Mohammeds father Abdullah was a pagan who practiced divination.

dexmond:


The God of Christians is called Yahweh. He is the God of Israel. He is not the son of El and Asheera.

What I said about Allah is true. We know that Qurayshi were pagans. Even Mohammeds father Abdullah was a pagan who practiced divination.

Nicene Christianity is from Judaism.
What i said about yahweh is also true. It was his father EL, that gave him israEL as inheritance, as you said he is the god of israel no more than that.
Abraham father was also a pagan who practiced divination.
What you said about alalh is wrong.
Allah and elohim means same thing that comes from Semitic languages.

Ola260:

Pls what if kind of dullard are u now.
U came up with a rubbish and still expect someone to explain to u.

Okay, let's move on

Here below is the Arabic phrase I asked you to translate
Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Is the translation below of the Arabic verse above wrong?

Translation:
Indeed, Jesus and his cohort [angels] pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him


Here below is am ACTUAL correct Quranic verse

Qur'an 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا ٥٦

Which of these THREE translation of Qur'an 33:56 is correct?
1. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, God and His angels pray (yusalloona) to the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation!

2. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

3. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Thank you

Maynman:

Nicene Christianity is from Judaism.
What i said about yahweh is also true. It was his father EL, that gave him israEL as inheritance, as you said he is the of israel no more than that.
Abraham father was also a pagan who practiced divination.
What you said about alalh is wrong.
Allah and elohim means same thing that comes Semitic languages.

Wikipedia as reference? Haha! This could have bee written by an enemy. Can you cite any reference from the Bible to support your position?

dexmond:


Wikipedia as reference? Haha! This could have bee written by an enemy. Can you cite any reference from the Bible to support your position?

Please give me your own reference where you saw allah as moon god

dexmond:


Wikipedia as reference? Haha! This could have bee written by an enemy. Can you cite any reference from the Bible to support your position?

World history is also your enemy abi
https://www.worldhistory.org/Yahweh/

TenQ:

Okay, let's move on

Here below is the Arabic phrase I asked you to translate
Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Is the translation below of the Arabic verse above wrong?

Translation:
Indeed, Jesus and his cohort [angels] pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him


Here below is am ACTUAL correct Quranic verse

Qur'an 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا ٥٦

Which of these THREE translation of Qur'an 33:56 is correct?
1. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, God and His angels pray (yusalloona) to the prophet. O ye who believe! pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation!

2. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

3. Qur'an 33:56
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Thank you

Ask prophet Google na why disturb Muslims and post the Google translate simple that is what you are told...

There is no English equivalent word for Salah it derive it's meaning based on context....

Praise, confer blessings, get close to, pray can be it's meaning based on context and pray doesn't fit the context maybe you should teach google...


Infact the preposition on (عَلَى) itself shows it can't be pray... You inserted to in the verse instead of on ...

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12

haekymbahd:
Ask prophet Google na why disturb Muslims and post the Google translate simple that is what you are told...

There is no English equivalent word for Salah it derive it's meaning based on context....

Praise, confer blessings, get close to, pray can be it's meaning based on context and pray doesn't fit the context maybe you should teach google...


Infact the preposition on (عَلَى) itself shows it can't be pray... You inserted to in the verse instead of on ...

This is why I always ask Muslims to translate the Arabic phrase below as they always reject my own translation.

How will you translate the script below

Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

TenQ:

This is why I always ask Muslims to translate the Arabic phrase below as they always reject my own translation.

How will you translate the script below

Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Apart from the subject itself the preposition on shows pray doesn't fit the context of the verse you are mistranslating... But whatever rocks your boat

Thank God you know even google is not on your side now...

TenQ:

And they will kill others if they accidentally tear the pages of the Qur'an!

Imagine the double standards.

Lies and deception. Cover ups and deceits.

haekymbahd:

Apart from the subject itself the preposition on shows pray doesn't fit the context of the verse you are mistranslating... But whatever rocks your boat

Thank God you know even google is not on your side now...

Are you saying that the correct translation of

Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Should be

Script:
Indeed, Jesus and his angels pray to ON the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Rather than
Script:
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

TenQ:

Are you saying that the correct translation of

Phrase:
إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Should be

Script:
Indeed, Jesus and his angels pray to ON the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Rather than
Script:
Indeed, Allah and his angels pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

The subject and the preposition shows pray doesn't fit the context... Well you know more than google what do I know

haekymbahd:
The subject and the preposition shows pray doesn't fit the context... Well you know more than google what do I know

Let me give you EXACTLY what Google translate gave me. You can please confirm.

Original Arabic Text

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Exact Google translate;
Indeed, Jesus and his cohort pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Please confirm!

TenQ:

Let me give you EXACTLY what Google translate gave me. You can please confirm.

Original Arabic Text

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

Exact Google translate;
Indeed, Jesus and his cohort pray to the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray for him, and may the peace and blessings of God be upon him

Please confirm!

I told you the subject and preposition.... When you use God the Almighty is used as subject it changes the context coupled with the preposition on.....


Salah has no direct English equivalent word but takes its meaning based on context.. If you think pray is the direct equivalent of Salah in English that is your problem but know that google disagrees with you....

Sixfiguresmart:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."


A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart.

islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble.

Hahahaha. Both the apostle and the "apostled" are confused. Mohammed that was crying beside the graveyard of his followers while the disciples of Jesus were raising the dead. Even Jesus disciples are greater than Mohammed!

Truvelisback:
Muslims believes ablution(washing their hands, mouth, legs and different parts of their body with water) cleanses them from whatever sin they might have committed.

Great deception. Water can only wash the body. Not the soul. The devil has deliberately used Mohammed to send many to hell. How can water cleanse sins for God's sake? Even those in the spirit realm of darkness know that without blood, there's no atonement.

TenQ:

I think everyone should ALL consider converting to Islam. See the condition for entering Paradise (all from the mouth of the greatest prophet of all ages)

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329 :
Narrated by Abu Dhar
Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

Although, this hadith may not be true BECAUSE Christians and Jews have most likely smuggled the hadith into Buhari's collection just like the satanic verses were smuggled into the Qur'an.

I can understand now why there is a Brothel in Islamic Paradise
A supermarket where you take your pick for sex from pictures (images)

Source: Jami’ at-Tirmidhi 2550, https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2550
Ali narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: ‘Indeed in Paradise there is a market in which there is no buying nor selling- except for images of men and women. So whenever a man desires an image, he enters it (for sex).’”

Lol

haekymbahd:
I told you the subject and preposition.... When you use God the Almighty is used as subject it changes the context coupled with the preposition on.....


Salah has no direct English equivalent word but takes its meaning based on context.. If you think pray is the direct equivalent of Salah in English that is your problem but know that google disagrees with you....

How about if I find hadiths that support my position that Allah prays to/on/for Mohammed: would that be a sufficient closure to this issue?

FxMasterz:


Hahahaha. Both the apostle and the "apostled" are confused. Mohammed that was crying beside the graveyard of his followers while the disciples of Jesus were raising the dead. Even Jesus disciples are greater than Mohammed!

Good points.

haekymbahd:
He knew he was wrong else he would have replied

And so?

Who was wrong? Mohammed never even asked the said messenger any question to know why Allah would allow adulterers and robbers to enter paradise as long as they're serving Allah alone. If he has asked and the messenger has replied that Allah is forgiving, that wouldn't be a new revelation to Mohammed as to make him excited.

The logical thing for the Mohammed to do was to probe and know how the adultrers and robbers would enter paradise just like that. Instead he was excited that they'll enter paradise as long as they don't serve any other God while sleeping with people's wives and robbing people. He was so excited about this fake revelation that he started spending the rest of his life on robbing caravans and sleeping on married women's beds as revealed by sixfiguresmart on his informative threads.

Antichristian was quoting that they'll enter paradise only because Allah is forgiving.

The fatal flaw in that argument is that, Allah is said to be generally forgiving for all sins except the sin of worshiping other gods. Mohammed has talked about that before someone brought him a new revelation that people who commit adultery and theft would enter heaven as long as they serve Allah alone. By implication, those who committed other sins wouldn't enter paradise even if they served Allah alone.

Or what made Mohammed excited at the message? Is it because Mohammed does not know that Allah is forgiving, and then he has just come to that realization? He's excited because he saw that now, 'As long as I serve Allah alone, no matter what I Bleep or steal, I would enter paradise." He doesn't even need to seek forgiveness. This was a new revelation for those two sins alone.

If you have any other opinion, let us know. TenQ and Truvelisback would also be interested in what you have to say.

FxMasterz:


Who was wrong? Mohammed never even asked the said messenger any question to know why Allah would allow adulterers and robbers to enter paradise as long as they're serving Allah alone. If he has asked and the messenger has replied that Allah is forgiving, that wouldn't be a new revelation to Mohammed as to make him excited.

The logical thing for the Mohammed to do was to probe and know how the adultrers and robbers would enter paradise just like that. Instead he was excited that they'll enter paradise as long as they don't serve any other God while sleeping with people's wives and robbing people. He was so excited about this fake revelation that he started spending the rest of his life on robbing caravans and sleeping on married women's beds as revealed by sixfiguresmart on his informative threads.

Antichristian was quoting that they'll enter paradise only because Allah is forgiving.

The fatal flaw in that argument is that, Allah is said to be generally forgiving for all sins except the sin of worshiping other gods. Mohammed has talked about that before someone brought him a new revelation that people who commit adultery and theft would enter heaven as long as they serve Allah alone. By implication, those who committed other sins wouldn't enter paradise even if they served Allah alone.

Or what made Mohammed excited at the message? Is it because Mohammed does not know that Allah is forgiving, and then he has just come to that realization? He's excited because he saw that now, 'As long as I serve Allah alone, no matter what I Bleep or steal, I would enter paradise." He doesn't even need to seek forgiveness. This was a new revelation for those two sins alone.

If you have any other opinion, let us know. TenQ and Truvelisback would also be interested in what you have to say.

You can't use just a quote from Hadith to judge. You have to know what the Quran says about this and other related Hadith to it or else it's more like cherry picking of verses..


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
 
"And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 68)
 
"Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated -"
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 69)

"Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 70)

haekymbahd:
You can't use just a quote from Hadith to judge. You have to know what the Quran says about this and other related Hadith to it or else it's more like cherry picking of verses..


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
 
"And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 68)
 
"Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated -"
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 69)

"Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 70)

You're not getting my drift.

If the message is in tandem with what the quoran has already revealed, Mohammed wouldn't need to be excited. The tone of excitement in that verse connotes a new revelation which actually suited Mohammed well. Let's look at the verse again:

Sahih Bukhari , Book 23, Number 329:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

The message was news, infact good news to Mohammed. For clearitty, Mohammed asked:

"Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?"

Mohammed wouldn't have reacted this way if the message was in tandem with what he previously knew, i.e, 'if they repent, they'll enter paradisise.' The new revelation that they would enter paradise as long as they serve Allah alone whether they repented or not was what excited Mohammed.