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Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 3:08pm On Oct 30, 2022
TenQ:
Only their apologists are getting the truth about the multiple versions of the Arabic Qurans. The vast majority of Muslims are still glued to their flawed standard narrative.

If you can get Hakeem's quote for me, I will appreciate.
Let's get him talking.

Haekymbahd, were the quran and hadith written by men?

Are they fallible?

Since the quran has been edited several times and the Saudis found 2500 errors in it.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 3:43pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Let's get him talking.

Haekymbahd, were the quran and hadith written by men?

Are they fallible?

Since the quran has been edited several times and the Saudis found 2500 errors in it.
The Quran was revealed to Muhammad to memories and not a book.... Quran is not a book but what is being recited. The actual Qur'an lives in the memorized recitations that exist all over the world. There are thousands of websites at which you can listen to the recitation, or download it, or you can walk into almost every masjid and listen to a hafiz.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 4:13pm On Oct 30, 2022
haekymbahd:
The Quran was revealed to Muhammad to memories and not a book.... Quran is not a book but what is being recited. The actual Qur'an lives in the memorized recitations that exist all over the world. There are thousands of websites at which you can listen to the recitation, or download it, or you can walk into almost every masjid and listen to a hafiz.
According to islamic texts and Aisha who wrote the Quran as well, some texts disappeared while somebwere eaten by sheep. Do you accept that Aisha was being honest or was she Dishonest?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 4:15pm On Oct 30, 2022
haekymbahd:
The Quran was revealed to Muhammad to memories and not a book.... Quran is not a book but what is being recited. The actual Qur'an lives in the memorized recitations that exist all over the world. There are thousands of websites at which you can listen to the recitation, or download it, or you can walk into almost every masjid and listen to a hafiz.
In the quran, allah identifies the quran as a book. Do you think allah was being honest or dishonest?

Again, he said that he sent it in pages and in tablets. Do you agree with all on this?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 4:18pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
According to islamic texts and Aisha who wrote the Quran as well, some texts disappeared while somebwere eaten by sheep. Do you accept that Aisha was being honest or was she Dishonest?
Okay you mean what was written document disappeared... It doesn't matter much since it was already memorized..
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 4:22pm On Oct 30, 2022
haekymbahd:
Okay you mean what was written document disappeared... It doesn't matter much since it was already memorized..
Is not what I mean. The islamic storyline has it. Was the writing before the memorization or vice versa?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 4:35pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
In the quran, allah identifies the quran as a book. Do you think allah was being honest or dishonest?

Again, he said that he sent it in pages and in tablets. Do you agree with all on this?
Yes Allah was right but the Quran was a preserved book with him recited to Muhammad. The Holy Quran is a heavenly book revealed by God for prosperity and guidance of humanity to God. It was sent down on the heart of the Last of Prophets and the Seal of Messengers, Muhammad b. Abdullah peace be upon him and his descendants.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 4:38pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Is not what I mean. The islamic storyline has it. Was the writing before the memorization or vice versa?
The Quran was a heavenly book with Allah recited to Muhammad... His sahabas have there own mushafs too...

Allah say:
"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:37pm On Oct 30, 2022
You said that it wasn't a book and now it is a book. Okay, let's continue.

Since the quran is a heavenly book, did that heavenly book have the diacritics or not?
haekymbahd:
The Quran was a heavenly book with Allah recited to Muhammad... His sahabas have there own mushafs too...

Allah say:
"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:45pm On Oct 30, 2022
So you accept that you were wrong initially when yousaid that the quran is not a book. Correct?
Now, you accept that allah is right when he stated right in the quran that the quran is a book.

To ensure that you understand what just happened, you had lied against allah and the quran and now, you stand corrected. Recall that you are the same one who accused the FxMasterz of lacking knowledge. Will you admit that you lacked knowledge too when you lied against the quran?

If the quran were the mother of books, why does it need the hadith to explain it?
haekymbahd:
Yes Allah was right but the Quran was a preserved book with him recited to Muhammad. The Holy Quran is a heavenly book revealed by God for prosperity and guidance of humanity to God. It was sent down on the heart of the Last of Prophets and the Seal of Messengers, Muhammad b. Abdullah peace be upon him and his descendants.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 3)

"And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom."
(QS. Az-Zukhruf 43: Verse 4)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 8:46pm On Oct 30, 2022
Memorized by who? Give me the name of ONE person who memorized the quran before it was written.
haekymbahd:
Okay you mean what was written document disappeared... It doesn't matter much since it was already memorized..
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 9:48pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Everyone is a liar, bro. You are a lawyer and lawyers are liars. Ain't it? I didn't lie but I built my case based on the evidence presented. If you say that it wasn't intellectually correct, I can agree with you, your honor. But to call it a lie when my case involves conflicting islamic texts would be intellectually dishonest of you.

But, let me ask you. Before Adam was created, were there other people here on earth
LOL! This is cliche sixfiguresmart and it doesn't make sense. I will deal with your claims in three parts (and I must confess giving you audience is a nauseating exercise!)

EVERYBODY IS A LIAR

6FIGSMART REALLY? This is a very dumb take, please. I will encourage you not to say this in the gathering of right thinking me! Let me explain this to you like a baby. Suppose you went to our pretty boy TenQ grin house and you met his lawyer friend.

- Assume that the name of this friend his Alex;

- Pretty boy grin introduced Alex to you and you all started gisting. Just put at the back of your mind somewhere that birds of a feather flock together. grin You told Alex that you are a 'computer guru'. LOL! No be so?

- And Alex tells you he is a lawyer. Then went ahead to tell you about an old case he did where he defended a rapist against this young girl. He won the case using technicalities (to some lay man, this means pure lying).

- When you queried him on the act of rape and defending rapists, he said 'Of course, every man don f_ck up, who never f_ck up hands in the air'?

- In the context of that hypothetical conversation, are you telling me your hands would not be in the hair??

LAWYERS ARE LIARS ?

You are really educated sixfiguresmart and you should not be found making statements typical of mor0ns. With statements like this, you will lower your estimation in the eyes of right thinking men. No sane man in the society would take you seriously. Just a piece of unsolicited advice as I do not even know where to start from. Lawyers are liars? My goodness!

CONFLICTING ISLAMIC TEXTS?

You know why I stop when I notice I am debating with liars? It is a rabbit hole and they will keep on lying. Mark Twain was quoted as saying:

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience . That holds true of liars as you will undoubtedly beat me with lying experience! Conflicting Islamic Source? You first lied Al-Haythami was the contemporary of the prophet, technically acknowledged that was a lie and shifted to Tabarani. Now you are saying your sources are conflicting? Which Islamic source told you Tabarani was a contemporary of the prophet to start with?

I think you once made this claim of Tabrani being contemporary of a companion of the prophet and I even gave you the opportunity to cross-check. Tabarani was born at least 160 years after the death of the prophet. It is just pure logic that he could never have met ANY companion of the prophet. Just common sense! And I asked you to NAME just one contemporary of the prophet Tabarani met and all we get is gfgwsodhiefiuhcihijoe (you know what that means - bunkum!).

I really struggled against my will to give you audience. Like I said earlier, it is nauseating engaging a LIAR!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 10:03pm On Oct 30, 2022
Hey Pretty Boy TenQ !!!,

It is annoying that I challenged your reputation, alleged that you are a morally reprehensible human not worthy of any engagement just because you are liar. Rather than struggle to clear your name, you have been silent. You think silence will save you? Really? Nah. I think you underestimate my will to chase you down the world just to show that you are a liar. That 'quote me well' you have been shouting up and down, I will learn it and make sure the world see you for who you are.

Our judges have not responded and I am not too sure that they are willing to take this noble task. You see I included NNTR (A christian and someone I had once engaged with and which ended badly) as the panel Judge. When you have solid evidence to back you up and you are confident of your logic, just like Daniel that was sent to the lion's den, one is confident of victory.

I really want to show the world you are liar and a despicable human. And I will give the chance to prove that I am a liar. But I want the pain to be slow and beautiful. I want to put you at the center of the pacific with the closest ship being 10,000 nautical miles away. Then sixfiguresmart will be a spectator and see the painful capsizing of his mentor.

I will keep scouting for judges or do you have anyone in mind?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 10:08pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
You said that it wasn't a book and now it is a book. Okay, let's continue.

Since the quran is a heavenly book, did that heavenly book have the diacritics or not?
Muhammad was told to recite and memorize it and he did then taught his followers what he had read and they also did like their leader recite and memorize...

Diacritics marks was only for Non Arab speakers who find it difficult to read Arabic so as not to fall In error and the were accompanied by teachers who taught how to read it...

The book with diacritics is not the Quran but what is being recited...
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 10:15pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
So you accept that you were wrong initially when yousaid that the quran is not a book. Correct?
Now, you accept that allah is right when he stated right in the quran that the quran is a book.

To ensure that you understand what just happened, you had lied against allah and the quran and now, you stand corrected. Recall that you are the same one who accused the FxMasterz of lacking knowledge. Will you admit that you lacked knowledge too when you lied against the quran?

If the quran were the mother of books, why does it need the hadith to explain it?
No book was given to Muhammad he was to recite and memorize and not forget.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)


Hadith are sayings of the prophet whom the Quran was revealed to. Are you saying Muhammad being the leader and teacher of Muslims shouldnt teach the Quran.

You can see christians despite reading the same book can't settle on a particular doctrine some believe in trinity while some don't but what did Jesus teach? Can you answer this I doubt it cos it will lead to a long debate btw you and and your fellows


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 59)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by NNTR: 10:18pm On Oct 30, 2022
LegalWolf:
You see I included NNTR (A christian
You sure have no idea. Short time or long, I wish you may become what I am and more, bar christian ...

LegalWolf:
... someone I had once engaged with and which ended badly) as the panel Judge.
Nothing went bad. Twas all the way good as far as I am concerned

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 10:21pm On Oct 30, 2022
Maynman:
Worthless jewish slave and his smelling momma.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Go and worship your jewish god, mentally ill illiterate like your FATHER! grin
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

little queer, your book consists of only a few verses that you have written
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 10:28pm On Oct 30, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.



johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

little queer, your book consists of only a few verses that you have written
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.


Damnation and Sorrow lover, all you got are forged and plagiarised books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS and used by damned slaves like you and your smelling momma.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by LegalWolf: 10:44pm On Oct 30, 2022
NNTR:
You sure have no idea. Short time or long, I wish you may become what I am and more, bar christian ...

Nothing went bad. Twas all the way good as far as I am concerned

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Same here as well man. I wish you may become what I am and more, bar Muslim. Handshake from here ..
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by haekymbahd(m): 10:45pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
Memorized by who? Give me the name of ONE person who memorized the quran before it was written.
Many Companions memorized the Quran during the life of the Prophet including the Four Caliphs, ‘Abdur-Rahman ibn ‘Auf, Zubayr ibn al-‘Awaam, Mu’aath ibn Jabal, ‘Ubay ibn Ka’b, Zayd ibn Thaabit, Abu Zayd, ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr, and others.

The evidence about their great number is that on the day of the Battle of al-Yamaama, seventy among those who memorized the entire Quran were killed as stated by Al-Qurtubi and others. Also, a large number of those who memorized the entire Quran were killed in the Battle of Bi'r Ma’oonah (well of Ma’oonah), during the life of the Prophet .


Manaahil Al-ʻIrfaan reads:

“There was a great number of the Companions who memorized the Quran during the lifetime of the Messenger, including the four Rightly-guided Caliphs, Talhah, Saʻd, Ibn Masʻood, Huthayfah, Saalim (the freed slave of Abu Huthayfah), Abu Hurayrah, Ibn ʻUmar, Ibn ʻAbbaas, ʻAmr ibn Al-ʻAas and his son ʻAbdullaah, Muʻaawiyyah, Ibn Az-Zubayr, ʻAbdullaah ibn As-Saa'ib, ʻAa'ishah, Hafsah, and Umm Salamah, and they were all from the Muhaajireen (emigrants) may Allaah be pleased with them all. Those who memorized the Quran in his lifetime from the Ansaar were Ubayy ibn Kaʻb, Muʻaath ibn Jabal, Zayd ibn Thaabit, Abu Ad-Dardaa', Majmaʻ ibn Haarithah, Anas ibn Maalik, and Abu Zayd, about whom Anas was asked and said, 'He is one of my cousins may Allaah be pleased with them all...' It was also said that some of them completed the memorization of the Quran after the death of the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam.”
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:19pm On Oct 30, 2022
haekymbahd:
Many Companions memorized the Quran during the life of the Prophet including the Four Caliphs, ‘Abdur-Rahman ibn ‘Auf, Zubayr ibn al-‘Awaam, Mu’aath ibn Jabal, ‘Ubay ibn Ka’b, Zayd ibn Thaabit, Abu Zayd, ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr, and others.

The evidence about their great number is that on the day of the Battle of al-Yamaama, seventy among those who memorized the entire Quran were killed as stated by Al-Qurtubi and others. Also, a large number of those who memorized the entire Quran were killed in the Battle of Bi'r Ma’oonah (well of Ma’oonah), during the life of the Prophet .


Manaahil Al-ʻIrfaan reads:

“There was a great number of the Companions who memorized the Quran during the lifetime of the Messenger, including the four Rightly-guided Caliphs, Talhah, Saʻd, Ibn Masʻood, Huthayfah, Saalim (the freed slave of Abu Huthayfah), Abu Hurayrah, Ibn ʻUmar, Ibn ʻAbbaas, ʻAmr ibn Al-ʻAas and his son ʻAbdullaah, Muʻaawiyyah, Ibn Az-Zubayr, ʻAbdullaah ibn As-Saa'ib, ʻAa'ishah, Hafsah, and Umm Salamah, and they were all from the Muhaajireen (emigrants) may Allaah be pleased with them all. Those who memorized the Quran in his lifetime from the Ansaar were Ubayy ibn Kaʻb, Muʻaath ibn Jabal, Zayd ibn Thaabit, Abu Ad-Dardaa', Majmaʻ ibn Haarithah, Anas ibn Maalik, and Abu Zayd, about whom Anas was asked and said, 'He is one of my cousins may Allaah be pleased with them all...' It was also said that some of them completed the memorization of the Quran after the death of the Prophet, sallallaahu ʻalayhi wa sallam.”
The Companions Who Memorized the Glorious Qur'an

Qatadah asked Anas ibn Malik, "Who memorized the Qur'an at the time of the Prophet?" He replied, "Four, all of whom were from the Ansar .Ubayy ibn Ka`b, Mu`adh ibn Jabal, Zayd ibn Thabit and Abu Zayd."


In another narration, Anas said, "When the Prophet died, no one had memorized the Quran except four people: Abu Ad-Darda', Mu`adh ibn Jabal, Zayd ibn Thabit and Abu Zayd."


Apparently, the latter narration differs with the former in two things: (l) It signifies that only four persons amongst the Companions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) completed the memorization of the Qur'an during the lifetime of the Prophet (peace be upon him), and (2) it mentioned Abu Ad-Darda' in the place of Ubayy ibn Ka`b.

Muslim scholars do not accept that only four from amongst the Companions memorized the Quran in the lifetime of the Prophet, basing their opinion on the view that Anas ibn Malik said this according to his own knowledge. Moreover, `Abdullah ibn `Amr said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah say, 'Learn the Quran from (any of these) four individuals: Abdullah ibn Mas`ud, Salim the freed slave of Abu Hudhayfah, Ubbay ibn ka'b, and mu'adh ibn jabal.

Now, note that you had posted that Abd al-Rahman ibn Awf learned the recitation AFTER the demise of a man who died on a teenage girl during an all-night sex romp and thighed the said girl at 6 years of age.

Now, the four reciters of the quran learned these while mohammed was still alive. The important thing here is that islamic sources claim that mohammed continued to receive quranic revelations in his death death, I mean while on top a teenager slobbering and gassing out his spirit.

Question is: Was the quran recited before mohammed received the revelation on his sick bed? Or after his death? What would you call that recitation before the final revelations were given him?

I will give you an example: We have the old testament and the news testament. Reading the old testament, I will say that I can recite the OLD TESTAMENT not the Bible.

I will ask again, did those men recite the revelations given to mohammed in his sick bed? Were the final revelations included in the quran or not?
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:27pm On Oct 30, 2022
Verse 16:64
We have sent you the Book [/b]for no other reason than to settle their differences and to be a guide and mercy for those who believe.


surah 7:1˹This is˺ a Book sent down to you ˹O Prophet˺—do not let anxiety into your heart regarding it—so with it you may warn ˹the disbelievers˺, and as a reminder to the believers.

Christians believe in one thing. False Christians are the fake one. Do you blame them, mohammedans burn burned down the bibles?

Why are there variances in Islam?
haekymbahd:
No book was given to Muhammad he was to recite and memorize and not forget.

[b]Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget,"
(QS. Al-A'laa 87: Verse 6)


Hadith are sayings of the prophet whom the Quran was revealed to. Are you saying Muhammad being the leader and teacher of Muslims shouldnt teach the Quran.

You can see christians despite reading the same book can't settle on a particular doctrine some believe in trinity while some don't but what did Jesus teach? Can you answer this I doubt it cos it will lead to a long debate btw you and and your fellows


Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

"O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 59)
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 11:36pm On Oct 30, 2022
Maynman:
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Damnation and Sorrow lover, all you got are forged and plagiarised books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS and used by damned slaves like you and your smelling momma.
gone in the head mad mayn man
when are you going to write chapters 1 to 5 up to verse 5 of wakanda

and queer mayn, when are you going to write chapters 1 to 6 up to verse 66 of
legbegbe, oh most dum one

so dum mad mayn man, you wrote 5:5 of wakanda before even writing 1:1
and you wrote 6:66 of legbegbe before even writing 1:1
such a dummy

Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 11:40pm On Oct 30, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.


johnw47:
gone in the head mad mayn man
when are you going to write chapters 1 to 5 up to verse 5 of wakanda

and queer mayn, when are you going to write chapters 1 to 6 up to verse 66 of
legbegbe, oh most dum one

so dum mad mayn man, you wrote 5:5 of wakanda before even writing 1:1
and you wrote 6:66 of legbegbe before even writing 1:1
such a dummy

Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
Mentally ill illiterate, worthless slave.
Used homophile like your father and jannyboy smelling momma.
Basing your worthless and dejected life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Such an unfortunate lunatic like your FATHER.


Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:50pm On Oct 30, 2022
Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 37, Number 4311:

Narrated Fatimah, daughter of Qays:

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) once delayed the congregational night prayer.

He came out and said: The talk of Tamim ad-Dari detained me. He transmitted it to me from a man who was of the islands of the sea. All of a sudden he found a woman who was trailing her hair. He asked: Who are you?

She said: I am the Jassasah. Go to that castle. So I came to it and found a man who was trailing his hair, chained in iron collars, and leaping between Heaven and Earth.

I asked: Who are you? He replied: I am the Dajjal (Antichrist). Has the Prophet of the unlettered people come forth now? I replied: Yes. He said: Have they obeyed him or disobeyed him? I said: No, they have obeyed him. He said: That is better for them.

Do you believe that mohammed approached the antichrist?
LegalWolf:
LOL! This is cliche sixfiguresmart and it doesn't make sense. I will deal with your claims in three parts (and I must confess giving you audience is a nauseating exercise!)

EVERYBODY IS A LIAR

6FIGSMART REALLY? This is a very dumb take, please. I will encourage you not to say this in the gathering of right thinking me! Let me explain this to you like a baby. Suppose you went to our pretty boy TenQ grin house and you met his lawyer friend.

- Assume that the name of this friend his Alex;

- Pretty boy grin introduced Alex to you and you all started gisting. Just put at the back of your mind somewhere that birds of a feather flock together. grin You told Alex that you are a 'computer guru'. LOL! No be so?

- And Alex tells you he is a lawyer. Then went ahead to tell you about an old case he did where he defended a rapist against this young girl. He won the case using technicalities (to some lay man, this means pure lying).

- When you queried him on the act of rape and defending rapists, he said 'Of course, every man don f_ck up, who never f_ck up hands in the air'?

- In the context of that hypothetical conversation, are you telling me your hands would not be in the hair??

LAWYERS ARE LIARS ?

You are really educated sixfiguresmart and you should not be found making statements typical of mor0ns. With statements like this, you will lower your estimation in the eyes of right thinking men. No sane man in the society would take you seriously. Just a piece of unsolicited advice as I do not even know where to start from. Lawyers are liars? My goodness!

CONFLICTING ISLAMIC TEXTS?

You know why I stop when I notice I am debating with liars? It is a rabbit hole and they will keep on lying. Mark Twain was quoted as saying:

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience . That holds true of liars as you will undoubtedly beat me with lying experience! Conflicting Islamic Source? You first lied Al-Haythami was the contemporary of the prophet, technically acknowledged that was a lie and shifted to Tabarani. Now you are saying your sources are conflicting? Which Islamic source told you Tabarani was a contemporary of the prophet to start with?

I think you once made this claim of Tabrani being contemporary of a companion of the prophet and I even gave you the opportunity to cross-check. Tabarani was born at least 160 years after the death of the prophet. It is just pure logic that he could never have met ANY companion of the prophet. Just common sense! And I asked you to NAME just one contemporary of the prophet Tabarani met and all we get is gfgwsodhiefiuhcihijoe (you know what that means - bunkum!).

I really struggled against my will to give you audience. Like I said earlier, it is nauseating engaging a LIAR!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:53pm On Oct 30, 2022
In how many ahruf did the allah recite it?
haekymbahd:
Muhammad was told to recite and memorize it and he did then taught his followers what he had read and they also did like their leader recite and memorize...

Diacritics marks was only for Non Arab speakers who find it difficult to read Arabic so as not to fall In error and the were accompanied by teachers who taught how to read it...

The book with diacritics is not the Quran but what is being recited...
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by TenQ(op): 11:56pm On Oct 30, 2022
LegalWolf:
Hey Pretty Boy TenQ !!!,

It is annoying that I challenged your reputation, alleged that you are a morally reprehensible human not worthy of any engagement just because you are liar. Rather than struggle to clear your name, you have been silent. You think silence will save you? Really? Nah. I think you underestimate my will to chase you down the world just to show that you are a liar. That 'quote me well' you have been shouting up and down, I will learn it and make sure the world see you for who you are.

Our judges have not responded and I am not too sure that they are willing to take this noble task. You see I included NNTR (A christian and someone I had once engaged with and which ended badly) as the panel Judge. When you have solid evidence to back you up and you are confident of your logic, just like Daniel that was sent to the lion's den, one is confident of victory.

I really want to show the world you are liar and a despicable human. And I will give the chance to prove that I am a liar. But I want the pain to be slow and beautiful. I want to put you at the center of the pacific with the closest ship being 10,000 nautical miles away. Then sixfiguresmart will be a spectator and see the painful capsizing of his mentor.

I will keep scouting for judges or do you have anyone in mind?
Repeating lies will never convert such lies into the truth. I have challenged you to your face with EVIDENCES: LegalWolf, you are a CONFIRMED LIAR!
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 12:50am On Oct 31, 2022
Maynman:
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.
when is this going to start to happen smiley

Maynman: Mentally ill illiterate, worthless slave.
Used homophile like your father and jannyboy smelling momma.
Basing your worthless and dejected life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Such an unfortunate lunatic like your FATHER.
such a fearful God hater:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Maynman: Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
anyone can write verses for the mad mayn man non existant books
here's one:
legbegbe 6:67 but only a lost dum fool would say that about Almighty God's Holy Spirit



Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 12:53am On Oct 31, 2022
johnw47:
when is this going to start to happen smiley



such a fearful God hater:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.



anyone can write verses for the mad mayn man non existant books
here's one:
legbegbe 6:67 but only a lost dum fool would say that about almighty God's Holy Spirit
Such a worthless slave to your fellow man, basing your life on random books with Unknown Authors.

Legbegbe 4:19–20– Your father is Satan, a Rapist and a Murderer, he’s long dead and useless and only found in jewish Fictions.
Your father, satan is a Liar, The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite and it’s lies that KILLED him and soon his brainwashed followers and they shall be condemned in nereka which is the legbegbe DEATH!

Legbegbe4:33– only a jewish slave and an unfortunate person will be bowing to a holy spirit that’s a imbecil.e.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 2:12am On Oct 31, 2022
Maynman:
Such a worthless slave to your fellow man, basing your life on random books with Unknown Authors.
Legbegbe 4:19–20– Your father is Satan, a Rapist and a Murderer, he’s long dead and useless and only found in jewish Fictions.
Your father, satan is a Liar, The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite and it’s lies that KILLED him and soon his brainwashed followers and they shall be condemned in nereka which is the legbegbe DEATH!
Legbegbe4:33– only a jewish slave and an unfortunate person will be bowing to a holy spirit that’s a imbecil.e.
dum dum, how many verses have u written now
for your non existant books


Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by Maynman: 2:15am On Oct 31, 2022
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.

johnw47:
dum dum, how many verses have u written now
for your non existant books


Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
Unfortunate jannyboy, son of a smelling momma , why are you so concerned about my holy book, you worthless slave.
How many verses did you write in your book, or you just quoting unknown jewish books like the worthless slave you are?

Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.

Holyspirit smelly Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
Re: Trinity In Islam!? Muslims Cannot Explain! by johnw47: 3:24am On Oct 31, 2022
Maynman:
Wakanda 5:5— as bitter as bitter leaf, your life will be much more bitter, you’ll have no reason to LAUGH, your live will be full of sorrow and agony.
Unfortunate jannyboy, son of a smelling momma , why are you so concerned about my holy book, you worthless slave.
How many verses did you write in your book, or you just quoting unknown jewish books like the worthless slave you are?
Legbegbe 6:66—It shall not be well with Yahweh worshippers, including their deranged son of man and ESPECIALLY their imbecil.e HOLY SPIRIT, nothing good shall come their way.
Holyspirit smelly Ass 1:12: for there are many Murderers and Rapist. Their father and his imbecil.e HOLY SPIRT are empty barrels and nonentities and all together they are deranged homophiles.
lost and tormented, cursing and angry, lying and blaspheming,
and hateful dum dum = satan's boy


Mar_3:29  but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin
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