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The poor in Nigeria never fail to amuse me. They are ignorantly talking and drawing conclusions about Canada without any knowledge.

More importantly, they do not understand a basic truth: that 80% of Nigerian elites since 1960 have been citizens of the same countries they are criticizing.

For example, just few, Tinubu, Atiku, the Sarakis, Sule, the current governor of Nassarawa, Abiodun, Makinde, Femi-Hamzat Gbaja, Omo-Agege and even Peter Obi are dual citizens. Osibanjo is a UK permanent resident…Same for the leading businessmen and pastors…Adenuga, Oyakhilome, Adefarasin.

It started with Azikiwe who lived in the US for 9 years and Ekwueme, who had 9 degrees and worked in the US and the UK.

In Canada, the average Nigerian professional earns $5-11k monthly, salary is paid every 2 weeks. Education and healthcare are free. Yes, mortgage costs are high. But your equity can make you 200m in 2-3 years if you decide to sell your home today.

Guys, learn and help your ignorance before you preach.

KwaraRat:
Switzerland is darn expensive. Too many Jews !

Finland is also damn expensive with very high tax rates and high cost of living.

Brussels is the HQ of the EU . No need to talk more on this and how moving there is a waste.

The only sensible place to move to in Europe is Germany but its now facing an imminent and permanent de industrialiaztion that will bring it down to Poland poor status.

Europe is a no go area and I will strongly advice against it.

Australia, New Zealand and Canada all have Marxists in power and these countries are quickly sliding into shithole status.

I will even suggest Vietnam or Thailand with that kind of money they are wasting to go to the JewK and start a small tourist bar.

oyel dey ya head

Oppy2k2:
U make sense bro

Dey console yourself.

Pojomojo:
Team JAPA are among the lazy and irrational citizens. I wonder why many don’t think of the reason why they found themeselves to be citizens of Nigeria.

JAPA mentality IMO you have no plan to influence your nation or your society, it appears you’re not in tune with the purpose of your existence but only focused on your personal interest.

We’ve been lied to that life is what we felt it is when actually it’s extremely the opposite of what we’ve been told.

Don’t be surprised that citizens of civilized countries are tied of their country just as we’re tied too. Strict laws we don’t follow here, you’ll get there and comport yourself meanwhile, their citizens are tied of such laws cause they know some countries are lawless.

Wow, humanity on the run to nowhere when nothing is chasing them but themselves and they lament it’s life.
This money for relocation is enough to set up a micro enterprise to meet the fast growing population in Nigeria / Neighboring African country, with a plan for upgrade of the business as the cash flow increases. There is no free launch any where in the world. Africa has a lot of gap and opportunities to be filled and harnessed. All the same relocation is good with respective individual evaluation of the opportunities and risk.
For every thing in life, there is time and season for every one, so it is always good to get prepared for the opportunities.

My advise is that individual should relocate on personal reasons and not because your close friend or family member has travelled to the UK or Canada, The case varies and individual potentials, opportunities and luck varies.

A family of 4 that have truly "Japa" to the UK knows your total initial cost is highly exaggerated for the popular one-year masters.

1. School fees can be paid at an official rate (less than 500 nairas) and some schools require a 2k or 5k pounds deposit. This drops the tuition deposit to about 1m to 2.5m. If I assume a 5k deposit, it saves 2m nairas compared to yours.

2. For proof of funds (in interest), you need tuition balance + living expenses. Most school tuition is less than 13,000 pounds, and there are schools with less than 10000 pounds tuition. If you deposit 5000 pounds (2.5m nairas) for a 13,000-pound school, you will need about 8000 pounds (4m nairas) more for the tuition balance. You will also need 29,000 pounds for living expenses for a family of 4 outside London. (29,000+8000) pounds= 37,000 pounds (about 17.5m naira). At 3.5% interest, 17.5m naira will yield 612,500 naira. Saves about 1.9 million nairas compared to yours.


To-be continued..
All the best.!
Peace

It's very necessary to always give credit to the writer of a piece whenever you are publishing their work.

You could have have even shared the link where you got it from on LinkedIn.

There are far cheaper places to migrate to, with better weather, communal culture, and a sense of belonging because Africans are part of their demographic make-up. The obsession with UK within Nigerians is what I don't get.

It's also a socio-cultural situation i.e., about leadership recruitment among blacks. In the developed world they've managed to build a culture that recognizes/rewards intelligence & competence. In Nigeria at least I believe well over 90% of those in government are unqualified for the positions they hold. Our politics of ethnicity and religion sees to that. And it's because those who should know are either naive to it or unaware of the damage that this causes. If we cared about our place in the world or about elevating our status as black people, then that leads us to merit & competence and the benefits this brings.

shegzhkn:
The leaders don't know that but did you attributes to black man intrinsic lack of intelligence (in a much larger context), remember ordinary people put them there.

ManOfSon:
It's also a socio-cultural situation i.e., about leadership recruitment among blacks. In the developed world they've managed to build a culture that recognizes/rewards intelligence & competence. In Nigeria at least I believe well over 90% of those in government are unqualified for the positions they hold. Our politics of ethnicity and religion sees to that. And it's because those who should know are either naive to it or unaware of the damage that this causes. If we cared about our place in the world or about elevating our status as black people, then that leads us to merit & competence and the benefits this brings.

Couldn't agree more.

Octopusssy:
Is the environment has hostile as it is in Nigeria? Do they have issues of multiple taxation, galloping inflation, poor infrastructure, insecurity, restricted access to Forex etcetera etcetera?

yoruba factor

gypsey:
All these waste of money just to come to the UK? Whereas i am looking to relocate to Africa. Namibia, Swaziland or Cape Verde . Maybe even Ghana. I grew up in London, i have even moved from London to a remote part of England 5 years ago.


London or England is not what it used to be when i was growing up in East London, everything has gone up in prices, food, cloths, transports, electric and gas bills, parking permit, i am paying high taxes, council taxes luckily for me i managed to buy my own home years back, gas bills has gone from £40 a week to £200 a week, i have just started using wood to heat my house, i am even using wood to cook outside outside in my garden.



By all means anyone who wants to come and live here, you are most wellcomed but be aware that the UK is not heaven. Some of us Brits are even looking to become Irish or even German citizen.

baba dey cook gbegiri with firewood for uk garden

The vast majority of Nigerians living in the UK, Canada or the US don't even have #19 million savings lol. And someone is using it to go live in the UK of all places.

sukkot:
leaders from the east no send dem citizens at all abaribe 16 years in senate has not commisioned even one kolanut tree. ekweremadu 40 houses in choice locations over the globe. ikpeazu dey share kerosene and fifty naira. peter obi plunge ndi anambra to record levels poverty. if you are from the east japaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ooooooooooo. e get why

40 houses tan! If one is not criminally insane, what will you be doing with 40 houses? No be gbee gbee houses o. The origin of corruption in Nigeria started from our Eastern Region, followed by the Core North, then Midwest, before it finally trickled down to the Western region.

The 95% rate mentioned is Student Visas and very little above 5% is Work Visas

Uk universities will give you admission with almost any kind of Result (HND, BSC)..... 2.2, 3rd class, there is always a school to go in the UK.

Elsewhere in Europe, it's a NO-NO, You can't even get admission with a 2.2 in most countries in Western Europe from a Nigerian school, Most Universities in Europe may give you admission bachelor's degree, but Visa Chance is 75% rejected! Their embassies don't encourage bachelor's degree admission on their part even though schools give you admission, but Schools in UK will dash you admission.

The biggest hurdle in the EU is document, its frustrating when you are just a JAPA-ing person without a document in Schengen (Life go tire you), Most people will use tourist Visa to move but may spend 10 Yrs trying to get document alone or be deported.


So Back to what the person you mentioned said, "UK" is easier and visas are guaranteed, IN EUROPE it's tedious, and even Ireland is not easy even though it's almost like the same process as the way the UK is, they somehow want to act unique with your application.

Anybody you see in Europe for study, they worked for it, but in UK, Na their money carry them to UK, UK needs money badly.

Am not saying UK no get legit students but japa, but there are students too, but in western Europe, e no easy like UK.

pocohantas:
UK has a 95% success rate.

The remaining countries you mentioned are not easy to get into.

QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

N19,000,000÷4 = N4,750,000

That means with N5,000,0000, a single person can japa without financial stress.

zed7:
You're a slave already with your mentality. What you don't realise is that a goat will not become a lion when taken overseas.

Ode is anything free in Nigeria is Mt question? If nothing is free in Nigeria why expect free things abroad? Since your generation is so lazy, you know u can survive hardwork aboard where you can't be begging animal

Thats is a very cheap price to pay for freedom and peace and security. Because africa is properly messedup. So please pay if you can.

Spandau:
40 houses tan! If one is not criminally insane, what will you be doing with 40 houses? No be gbee gbee houses o. The origin of corruption in Nigeria started from our Eastern Region, followed by the Core North, then Midwest, before it finally trickled down to the Western region.

you are very correct in your assertion. all these other regions their culture is based on the availability of money in your pockets and so this breeds criminality. yes oooo brother, only an igbo and an hausa man wil lyou see with 40 houses. even el rufai has like 40 houses. ekweremmadus houses are in germany and london and usa and lagos. expensive locations. what does one man need with 40 houses ? does he not bleed and shit and fall sick and die like every man ? does he think he is immortal ? these people are crazy bro.

zed7:
I always tell people that Japa is not for the poor...

Whilst I know the country failed them, I also know that this is second slavery. The West don't need guns and mirrors anymore, they just need to dangle visas and tweak their policies a little and our best hands will run and go slaving for them, whilst their citizens idle away and enjoy the fruit of our peoples hardwork. Just like the days of old.

The West got this advanced with the sweat of Africans and other less developed nations. They're still doing same till date. It's pathetic.

Even the not poor that are Japa-ing are becoming virtually poor in the process of leaving. Disposing all their assets, disconnecting from a lot that they have spent time investing in.

And I totally agree about the west getting advanced on sweat of less developed nations. I keep telling people that Africa is underdeveloped because they took our best brains and resources to develop their own nation. The same thing is happening, today. But I pray that one day, a Real leader will come and turn the brain drain to gain.

sukkot:
you are very correct in your assertion. all these other regions their culture is based on the availability of money in your pockets and so this breeds criminality. yes oooo brother, only an igbo and an hausa man wil lyou see with 40 houses. even el rufai has like 40 houses. ekweremmadus houses are in germany and london and usa and lagos. expensive locations. what does one man need with 40 houses ? does he not bleed and shit and fall sick and die like every man ? does he think he is immortal ? these people are crazy bro.

I tell you!

apolonius:
The poor in Nigeria never fail to amuse me. They are ignorantly talking and drawing conclusions about Canada without any knowledge.

More importantly, they do not understand a basic truth: that 80% of Nigerian elites since 1960 have been citizens of the same countries they are criticizing.

For example, Tinubu, Atiku, the Sarakis, Sule, the current governor of Nassarawa, Abiodun, Makinde, Femi-Hamzat Gbaja, Omo-Agege and even Peter Obi are dual citizens. Osibanjo is a UK permanent resident…Same for the leading businessmen and pastors…Adenuga, Oyakhilome, Adefarasin.

It started with Azikiwe who lived in the US for 9 years and Ekwueme, who had 9 degrees and worked in the US and the UK.

I’m Canada, the average Nigerian professional earns $5-11k monthly, salary is paid every 2 weeks. Education and healthcare are free. Yes, mortgage costs are high. But your equity can make you 200m in 2-3 years if you decide to sell your home today.

Guys, learn and help your ignorance before you preach.

This is an expose. You're a smart guy armed with information that many don't have.

Octopusssy:
The mind boggles.

For the 'invest the money in business' crew, just know that the Nigerian business environment is VERY hostile. Many businesses are folding up so there is no guarantee that the business will thrive if he should 'start a business'.

Some people don't know this, businesses that are pulling through are the ones established OR opened before this period.

Anyway, God should continue protecting and helping us doing businesses in this country.

It is well!

QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

wassup br
pls can you do for poland, canada ,ireland denmark
or
is there any 2m can sort ampong the ones i listed

CoronaVirusRelo:
Long route!


Better ways exist!

Dont let me break the code here before UK embassy gets to know!

You will be in UK legally in less than 5 weeks.

Hmmm

Yureyes:
Ya’ll should stop preaching nonsense under every immigration thread about using the POF to do something in Nigeria. People migrate for different reasons. Nigerians don’t even migrate the way Chinese or Indians do. Yet, you hardly see people trying to make them feel they made an irrational decision to leave their country. But Nigerians are quick to write a long epistle of why investing or staying in Nigeria is better as if they care about the people JAPA-ing. Not sure if it’s jealousy or I too know syndrome

please Japa, and share your story.

where is your intended destination?

Promise47:
Please � how can I travel by road

sukkot:
yoruba factor

Lmaaaaao!!

Mscheeeew

annisy:
Why are northerners not too fascinated with the japa fever, 8 out of every 10 relocating are from Southern Nigeria!!

It's either northerners are all staying back to rule Nigeria or they really don't have the chance yet...

I go follow in your footsteps

We die here!

Dollywood:
I'll be something; I'll leave a mark as a legend before dying—Mark my words!

QuinModah:
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Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

The song Area by SoundSultan dey make me shelf some of my plans of leaving this country...

QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

Your colleague went to school dazall. After study if he finds a job and an employer willing to sponsor his work permit he can continue his career. We should be aware that prior to 2012 when the post-study visa was suspended, not everyone was able to remain in the UK after their academic program. Some spent 2 years after their program and had to leave the country. Seeking study leave from employer was a more common practice. In addition, I only met one Nigerian student with dependents. Most others I knew had their families back in Nigeria while they studied in UK for up to four years (undergraduate and doctorate students) Today Nigeria is worse off. UK is also worse than it was 10 years ago but people are giving a lot to UK. In my opinion, Canada has a direct pathway to permanent residency without having to be a student and should be a better option for Japa people. I pray everyone's japa strategy and plans work out.

Na people whey the do well de travel... Why will I spend such amount just in the name of travel.... Travel that your not certain of the outcome...

winnah:
Na people whey the do well de travel... Why will I spend such amount just in the name of travel.... Travel that your not certain of the outcome...

I don't want to sound negative but what these people are doing is unimaginable. Some will spend so much and end up working multiple jobs just to be able to survive in a UK that is undergoing hyperinflation and many economic issues. Some are even too old for this. By the time they become permanent residents and qualify for mortgage they'll be in their 40s with no enough years to work to pay-up the mortgage and have a decent pension fund.