azammi:
Sir speaklove can you help on this .

First of all sorry for the delaying before replying .
I had to deal with some things offline and was somehow busy .
I came on line and saw your mention and tried to reply but was having issue with the service .

I will like to reply your question gradually so as to afford you a better understanding .

I will like to be led by the scriptures and the holy spirit in all of my reply to your questions so as to not lead you into error .

Spiritual things needs spiritual interpretations and only by the holy spirit can that be accurately done with the discerning tool of the scriptures .

As it is written
1 Corinthians 2:13-14
[13]These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Hebrews 4:12
[12]For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

So be patient with me please

azammi:
Sir speaklove can you help on this .

Obly God can help .

God's holy spirit is our sufficiency ,teacher ,guide and instructor you should learn to listen to him .
He is willing to speak than we are desiring to hear.
The problem is how to focus your mind on him and not be distracted .

If you can practice waiting on the lord regularly ,and be mindful of his voice within your heart you will hear ,and be thought new things .


Now back to your questions.

The gifts you enumerated are called "the gifts of the spirit " which are nine in number .

1.word of wisdom : this gift is directive in nature .
It is for giving direction on the right thing to do in certain circumstances or situations .
Some people might even have this gift but may still not be aware because it has no tangible manifestation .
They take good actions and then account it to there on calculations and were unconscious of the influence of the holy spirit over such operations .

To get this gift:
is to acknowledge that the holy spirit gives such wise directions and then tune in your consciousness towards him to get a direction on what to do in circumstances you may find difficult to deal with .

REGULARLY Confess to yourself that you have the holy spirit (THAT IS ONLY IF YOU HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT )
And say " he will give me wisdom for direction"

This is merely to build it into your consciousness and then walk in it .

If you don't build it into your consciousness you will forget the holy spirit when you should rely on him and then remember him only after you might have taken the wrong step .

As it is written

Proverbs 3:5-7
[
[5]TRUST in the Lord with all your heart, And LEAN NOT on your own understanding;

[6]In all your ways ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, And HE SHALL DIRECT your paths.

[7]DO not BE WISE in your own eyes;

Fear the Lord and depart from evil.

if he sees that you are willing to be led then he would began to manifest even when you don't expect .

This is a example of the manifestation of the gift of " words of wisdom" in the bible
Though there are many of them .


Matthew 22:15-22
[15]Then the Pharisees went and plotted how they might entangle Him in His talk.
[16]And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men.
[17]Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
[18]But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites?
[19]Show Me the tax money.” So they brought Him a denarius.
[20]And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
[21]They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
[22]When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left Him and went their way.

THE bible says "the spirit give to each one (a gift ) as he (himself ) pleases .

I have noticed that the holy spirit gives gift to people according to their ordinations .

Eg.
if you have a calling of an Evangelist then you are LIKELY to have the gift of healing .

OR

the gift of utterance ( which is somehow connected with the gift of words of wisdom )

As it is written .
Luke 21:15
[15]for I will give you a MOUTH and WISDOM which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist.

The bible also admonish us to pray and ask god for wisdom in faith ,
So ask that god give you that gift in prayer then switch into practice .

WITHOUT PRACTICE THERE WILL BE NO MANIFESTATION


When the apostles had issues with doctrines
James stood up and provided solution through the words of wisdom

Read act 15 :1 -22.

So words of wisdom. Is directive or for direction .
And you depend on the holy spirit for inspiration yo manifest it .
Also ask the father in prayer .

I will by gods grace add some things to this answer.

or answer other questions eg. Words of knowledge and discerning of spirit .

Just bear with me please

Thank you sir , ok I’ll wait for the rest of your contributions.

Speaklove:


Obly God can help .

God's holy spirit is our sufficiency ,teacher ,guide and instructor you should learn to listen to him .
He is willing to speak than we are desiring to hear.
The problem is how to focus your mind on him and not be distracted .

If you can practice waiting on the lord regularly ,and be mindful of his voice within your heart you will hear ,and be thought new things .


Now back to your questions.

The gifts you enumerated are called "the gifts of the spirit " which are nine in number .

1.word of wisdom : this gift is directive in nature .
It is for giving direction on the right thing to do in certain circumstances or situations .
Some people might even have this gift but may still not be aware because it has no tangible manifestation .
They take good actions and then account it to there on calculations and were unconscious of the influence of the holy spirit over such operations .

To get this gift:
is to acknowledge that the holy spirit gives such wise directions and then tune in your consciousness towards him to get a direction on what to do in circumstances you may find difficult to deal with .

REGULARLY Confess to yourself that you have the holy spirit (THAT IS ONLY IF YOU HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT )
And say " he will give me wisdom for direction"

This is merely to build it into your consciousness and then walk in it .

If you don't build it into your consciousness you will forget the holy spirit when you should rely on him and then remember him only after you might have taken the wrong step .

As it is written

Proverbs 3:5-7
[
[5]TRUST in the Lord with all your heart, And LEAN NOT on your own understanding;

[6]In all your ways ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, And HE SHALL DIRECT your paths.

[7]DO not BE WISE in your own eyes;

Fear the Lord and depart from evil.

if he sees that you are willing to be led then he would began to manifest even when you don't expect .

This is a example of the manifestation of the gift of " words of wisdom" in the bible
Though there are many of them .


Matthew 22:15-22
[15]Then the Pharisees went and plotted how they might entangle Him in His talk.
[16]And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men.
[17]Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
[18]But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites?
[19]Show Me the tax money.” So they brought Him a denarius.
[20]And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
[21]They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
[22]When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left Him and went their way.

THE bible says "the spirit give to each one (a gift ) as he (himself ) pleases .

I have noticed that the holy spirit gives gift to people according to their ordinations .

Eg.
if you have a calling of an Evangelist then you are LIKELY to have the gift of healing .

OR

the gift of utterance ( which is somehow connected with the gift of words of wisdom )

As it is written .
Luke 21:15
[15]for I will give you a MOUTH and WISDOM which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist.

The bible also admonish us to pray and ask god for wisdom in faith ,
So ask that god give you that gift in prayer then switch into practice .

WITHOUT PRACTICE THERE WILL BE NO MANIFESTATION


When the apostles had issues with doctrines
James stood up and provided solution through the words of wisdom

Read act 15 :1 -22.

So words of wisdom. Is directive or for direction .
And you depend on the holy spirit for inspiration yo manifest it .
Also ask the father in prayer .

I will by gods grace add some things to this answer.

or answer other questions eg. Words of knowledge and discerning of spirit .

Just bear with me please

azammi:
Thank you sir , ok I’ll wait for the rest of your contributions.

sorry brother ,how is your day ?

I'm back .

The gift of words of wisdom. Is not just knowing the right thing to do (as of actions ) but also the right words to say in a complex situation .

There was a day I was having a conversion with a Muslim guy (evangelizing to him )
I raise many points to his counters
But he still argues with me .

So I switched my consciousness towards the holy spirit and he filled my heart with certain words that I don't think I've known before that time .
And when I dropped those words a cord was struck in the Muslim a guy's heart that he was unable to resist .

he was struck at heart and was asked to give is life to Christ .
the challenge he had was confessing Christ but he was surely convicted by those words the holy spirit dropped in my spirit .

Look at this scripture below .
Acts 6:8-10
[8]And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.
[9]Then there arose some from what is called the Synagogue of the Freedmen (Cyrenians, Alexandrians, and those from Cilicia and Asia), disputing with Stephen.
[10]And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit by which he spoke.

The gift of words of wisdom is inspiration for direction of actions or inspiration of utterance that drives a point home .

And you walk by this when you carry the consciousness of the holy spirit and retain him at heart that you might be able to hear his voice or perceive them .
Then apply what you hear or perceive .

1. Be conscious of the spirit
2. Listen to him by turning your mind to him or become mindful of what he might say
3 . applied what you hear for instruction
or speak what you hear for utterance .

This is sounds like a thing you've been doing already but how do you know if it is the gift or not ?

Answer -circumstances that are challenging or complex which demands shrewdness and wisdom to be dealt with .

That's why I said this might be in somebody's life without them knowing .
Look at this scripture below

Nehemiah 7:5
[5]Then my GOD PUT it INTO MY HEART TO GATHER THE NOBLES, the rulers, and the people, that they might be registered by genealogy. And I found a register of the genealogy of those who had come up in the first return, and found written in it:

this is an inspiration given to Nehemiah
To take an action .that is word of wisdom.




One person can have the nine gifts of the holy spirit Because you have the spirit that gives all of them .
But the ones that are consistent or of more important to a persons life are the ones that would manifest most
While the others would demand for effort lime practicing and engaging their realm be for they can be manifest even though the person might already have them .

You can have a gift but it still could be in a latent state until you build it existence with you into your consciousness and then make deliberate efforts to manifest them .

And the greatest thing you can do is to practice .

Mediating the scriptures and waiting on god also helps in the manifestation of the gifts of words of wisdom (I think )

I think we stop here concerning " THE GIFT OF WORDS OF WISDOM " and move to the next one .

Please bear with me please

Thanks for this , I’ll be waiting for the rest sir .

Speaklove:


sorry brother ,how is your day ?

I'm back .

The gift of words of wisdom. Is not just knowing the right thing to do (as of actions ) but also the right words to say in a complex situation .

There was a day I was having a conversion with a Muslim guy (evangelizing to him )
I raise many points to his counters
But he still argues with me .

So I switched my consciousness towards the holy spirit and he filled my heart with certain words that I don't think I've known before that time .
And when I dropped those words a cord was struck in the Muslim a guy's heart that he was unable to resist .

he was struck at heart and was asked to give is life to Christ .
the challenge he had was confessing Christ but he was surely convicted by those words the holy spirit dropped in my spirit .

Look at this scripture below .
Acts 6:8-10
[8]And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.
[9]Then there arose some from what is called the Synagogue of the Freedmen (Cyrenians, Alexandrians, and those from Cilicia and Asia), disputing with Stephen.
[10]And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the Spirit by which he spoke.

The gift of words of wisdom is inspiration for direction of actions or inspiration of utterance that drives a point home .

And you walk by this when you carry the consciousness of the holy spirit and retain him at heart that you might be able to hear his voice or perceive them .
Then apply what you hear or perceive .

1. Be conscious of the spirit
2. Listen to him by turning your mind to him or become mindful of what he might say
3 . applied what you hear for instruction
or speak what you hear for utterance .

This is sounds like a thing you've been doing already but how do you know if it is the gift or not ?

Answer -circumstances that are challenging or complex which demands shrewdness and wisdom to be dealt with .

That's why I said this might be in somebody's life without them knowing .
Look at this scripture below

Nehemiah 7:5
[5]Then my GOD PUT it INTO MY HEART TO GATHER THE NOBLES, the rulers, and the people, that they might be registered by genealogy. And I found a register of the genealogy of those who had come up in the first return, and found written in it:

this is an inspiration given to Nehemiah
To take an action .that is word of wisdom.




One person can have the nine gifts of the holy spirit Because you have the spirit that gives all of them .
But the ones that are consistent or of more important to a persons life are the ones that would manifest most
While the others would demand for effort lime practicing and engaging their realm be for they can be manifest even though the person might already have them .

You can have a gift but it still could be in a latent state until you build it existence with you into your consciousness and then make deliberate efforts to manifest them .

And the greatest thing you can do is to practice .

Mediating the scriptures and waiting on god also helps in the manifestation of the gifts of words of wisdom (I think )

I think we stop here concerning " THE GIFT OF WORDS OF WISDOM " and move to the next one .

Please bear with me please

I am so sorry bro #azammi for not replying lately .
I was out with work ,and had busy days .

I seldom come on line but I will try to drop a little thing today by gods grace

Bro #"azammi " how are you doing ?
Hope all is fine ,I'm back again .
Was out for a while because of work ,and my days have been busy .
I haven't forgotten you at all but will try to answer your qquestions as time goes on

Written reply to Bro azammi on his question on the gift of words of knowledge :

Bro the gift of words of knowledge is vast in its operation or manifestation and that has led to many interpretations on the manifestations of that gift and I want to believe many of those interpretations are accurate .

The gift of words of knowledge is a revelatory gift .meaning it is a gift of revelation that reveals things you ciould have non with I out been told .
So this gift is a means through which the holy spirit reveals a thing concerning a matter or an information concerning persons ,places or things .

The gift has diverse manifestations like :

A thought .
An intuitive information or directions.
A picture (dream, vision or even imagination)
A feeling
An audible voice of the holy spirit.

Some classified receiving information or messages from angels has part of words of knowledge but that is not a gift .
Seeing an angel is not a gift but an encounter or vision .

And in fact it is called
" WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE " so I think it should deal MAJORLY on words ,but because if the diversity of Its manifestation things like having a body feelings or sensations ,visions ,dreams and others are included .

But i think the major manifestations of that gift are :
receiving informations through thoughts .
1.
2.
having a feeling or a sensation on your body (this one is for those who operate in the gift of healing ,this help them to know which part of the body of a person they are to deal with without the person telling them before hand .
You could hear a preacher say
"There is someone here who has issue with the right eye .
Now no body told that preacher about that but the preacher discern it because they holy spirit touched that particular part in the preachers own body and the preacher then felt it in his body and then knew that somebody in the congregation has issue with that particular area .

Or the preacher could have an intuitive thought come into his mind (this means he was not thinking abiut such thing before then but it came into his heart intrusively and he discerned that it was the holy spirit who speak those words into his heart .

This is a good example of the manifestation of that gift in the bible

John 4:5-18
[5]So He came to a city of Samaria which is called Sychar, near the plot of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
[6]Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied from His journey, sat thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.
[7]A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.”
[8]For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.
[9]Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.
[10]Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
[11]The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water?
[12]Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
[13]Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,
[14]but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
[15]The woman said to Him, “Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw.”
[16]Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.”
[17]The woman answered and said, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You have well said, ‘I have no husband,’


[18]for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly.”

You see !
He told her how many husbands she had had without her telling him those things
How did he know that ?
It was given to him through the gift of words of knowledge by the holy spirit .
And that could have come into his mind merely as a thought .


Sometimes what you hear could be the person's name ,or any other things concerning the person or something or somebody about them .

The holy spirit most times speaks into our hearts by thoughts .
This means when he whispers into our heart we hear them as thoughts instead of audible words you would hear thoughts and then think it your own thoughts but NOT EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN YOUR MIND ARE THOUGHTS .
SOME OF THEM ARE THE HOLY SPIRIT ,SOME ARE FRIM DEMONS ,SOME COULD EVEN BE ANOTHER KIND OF SPIRIT .

it is hard to discern what is the holy Spirit words un your heartheart apart from yours ,but the scripture are a major tool to discern what is God's and what didn't not come from God .
What ever is against gods words is not from the holy spirit so you must subject every thoughts you hear to test and then draw the line through the sword of the scriptures .

May people have confused the gift of words of knowledge with the gift of prophecy but they are not the same .

Some people gave words of knowledge and then calls it prophecy but it is not .
Words of knowledge reveals information about a thing or person ,prophecy declares a statement for the future .
Prophecy are received through utterances but words of knowledge can come through signs and feelings .


The gift of words of knowledge needs deliberate practice to manifest for beginners ,so you must make conscious effort to practice some things before they can manifest .

It is possible for a Christian to have all the nine gift of the spirit with I out many of them manifesting .

I will speak about the area of practice and other things .

I think I will stop here and make additions on this subject some other time .
Just wait in anticipation by God's grace.

I will add more on words of knowledge and how you can practice .

Thank you sir for the write up , so how do we receive this gifts ?

Speaklove:

Bro #"azammi " how are you doing ?
Hope all is fine ,I'm back again .
Was out for a while because of work ,and my days have been busy .
I haven't forgotten you at all but will try to answer your qquestions as time goes on

Written reply to Bro azammi on his question on the gift of words of knowledge :

Bro the gift of words of knowledge is vast in its operation or manifestation and that has led to many interpretations on the manifestations of that gift and I want to believe many of those interpretations are accurate .

The gift of words of knowledge is a revelatory gift .meaning it is a gift of revelation that reveals things you ciould have non with I out been told .
So this gift is a means through which the holy spirit reveals a thing concerning a matter or an information concerning persons ,places or things .

The gift has diverse manifestations like :

A thought .
An intuitive information or directions.
A picture (dream, vision or even imagination)
A feeling
An audible voice of the holy spirit.

Some classified receiving information or messages from angels has part of words of knowledge but that is not a gift .
Seeing an angel is not a gift but an encounter or vision .

And in fact it is called
" WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE " so I think it should deal MAJORLY on words ,but because if the diversity of Its manifestation things like having a body feelings or sensations ,visions ,dreams and others are included .

But i think the major manifestations of that gift are :
receiving informations through thoughts .
1.
2.
having a feeling or a sensation on your body (this one is for those who operate in the gift of healing ,this help them to know which part of the body of a person they are to deal with without the person telling them before hand .
You could hear a preacher say
"There is someone here who has issue with the right eye .
Now no body told that preacher about that but the preacher discern it because they holy spirit touched that particular part in the preachers own body and the preacher then felt it in his body and then knew that somebody in the congregation has issue with that particular area .

Or the preacher could have an intuitive thought come into his mind (this means he was not thinking abiut such thing before then but it came into his heart intrusively and he discerned that it was the holy spirit who speak those words into his heart .

This is a good example of the manifestation of that gift in the bible

John 4:5-18
[5]So He came to a city of Samaria which is called Sychar, near the plot of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
[6]Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied from His journey, sat thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.
[7]A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.”
[8]For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.
[9]Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.
[10]Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
[11]The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water?
[12]Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
[13]Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,
[14]but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
[15]The woman said to Him, “Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw.”
[16]Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.”
[17]The woman answered and said, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You have well said, ‘I have no husband,’


[18]for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; in that you spoke truly.”

You see !
He told her how many husbands she had had without her telling him those things
How did he know that ?
It was given to him through the gift of words of knowledge by the holy spirit .
And that could have come into his mind merely as a thought .


Sometimes what you hear could be the person's name ,or any other things concerning the person or something or somebody about them .

The holy spirit most times speaks into our hearts by thoughts .
This means when he whispers into our heart we hear them as thoughts instead of audible words you would hear thoughts and then think it your own thoughts but NOT EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IN YOUR MIND ARE THOUGHTS .
SOME OF THEM ARE THE HOLY SPIRIT ,SOME ARE FRIM DEMONS ,SOME COULD EVEN BE ANOTHER KIND OF SPIRIT .

it is hard to discern what is the holy Spirit words un your heartheart apart from yours ,but the scripture are a major tool to discern what is God's and what didn't not come from God .
What ever is against gods words is not from the holy spirit so you must subject every thoughts you hear to test and then draw the line through the sword of the scriptures .

May people have confused the gift of words of knowledge with the gift of prophecy but they are not the same .

Some people gave words of knowledge and then calls it prophecy but it is not .
Words of knowledge reveals information about a thing or person ,prophecy declares a statement for the future .
Prophecy are received through utterances but words of knowledge can come through signs and feelings .


The gift of words of knowledge needs deliberate practice to manifest for beginners ,so you must make conscious effort to practice some things before they can manifest .

It is possible for a Christian to have all the nine gift of the spirit with I out many of them manifesting .

I will speak about the area of practice and other things .

I think I will stop here and make additions on this subject some other time .
Just wait in anticipation by God's grace.

I will add more on words of knowledge and how you can practice .

azammi:
Thank you sir for the write up , so how do we receive this gifts ?

1 Corinthians 12:8,11
[8]for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
[11]But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

It is the holy spirit who distributes these gifts so walk with him and he would teach you

It's been silent for sometimes

There is a limit u can go when u are carnaly minded... I understand ur statements but its more profitable to be Spiritually sound so as to better explain the things of God.

Kobojunkie:
This has nothing to do with not having "a taste of a thing". It is about making clear a lie told in the name of God.

The baptism of Jesus Christ was physical - He was born of water, just as He said one ought to be. And then He was baptized by the very Spirit of God, an occurrence that was described in the physical as well.

It was not an "anointing" since anointings are of the Old Covenant Law of Moses. If you had in fact spent time with Jesus Christ Himself, you would realized this pivotal Truth of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

Stop trying to twist the Truth so you can add your lies in the name of God. Jesus Christ never taught His apostles to believe in anointing, nor did He send them out to deceive people with stories of anointing, which again, are of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, and of not the Gospel of the Kingdom of God which we were sent out to teach instead.

Bruno3000:
There is a limit u can go when u are carnaly minded... I understand ur statements but its more profitable to be Spiritually sound so as to better explain the things of God.

What exactly does it mean to be "carnally-minded"? Ever wondered about that at all?

What does it mean to be Spiritually sound? How are these terms defined? In terms of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ which is all God requires our obedience of? Or according to meaningless standards set by men that instead draw our focus away from God's Word?

Ok... Let me put it this way; the version of Peter that denied our Lord Jesus is the carnal Peter while the version that boldly preached after pentecost so that about 3 thousand souls were won is the SPIRIT FILLED AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND PETER. To be carnal is to depend on ur natural senses in order to carry out a task, while to be spiritually sound and alert is to totally depend on the leading and dictates of the Holy spirit in order to carry out a task. That is what qualifies u to be called a child of God. John 1:12,13. So while trying to discuss or argue the things of God, doing it from the human angle and knowledge alone is a waste of time. Be spirit filled and spirit led.

Kobojunkie:
What exactly does it mean to be "carnally-minded"? Ever wondered about that at all?

What does it mean to be Spiritually sound? How are these terms defined? In terms of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ which is all God requires our obedience of? Or according to meaningless standards set by men that instead draw our focus away from God's Word?

Bruno3000:
1. Ok... Let me put it this way; the version of Peter that denied our Lord Jesus is the carnal Peter while the version that boldly preached after pentecost so that about 3 thousand souls were won is the SPIRIT FILLED AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND PETER.

2. To be carnal is to depend on ur natural senses in order to carry out a task, while to be spiritually sound and alert is to totally depend on the leading and dictates of the Holy spirit in order to carry out a task. That is what qualifies u to be called a child of God. John 1:12,13.

3. So while trying to discuss or argue the things of God, doing it from the human angle and knowledge alone is a waste of time. Be spirit filled and spirit led.

1. The version of Peter? I am sorry, but that doesn't properly explain the term at all since the same SPIRIT FILLED AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND Peter who preached after pentecost is the same Peter who Paul is written fo have reportedly rebuked else for something later on.

2. Jesus Christ also said that it is by knowing the Truth- this through continuous obedience of His teachings(and commandments), God's Truth - this one is set free from slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 35 - and transformed into a Holy/acceptable vessel worthy of God's own Holy Spirit to dwell in - John 14 vs 15 - 25.

So what "qualifies" you isn't just your thoughts but instead your deeds, your obedience of the very teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, that is what you are called to doing as one who claims to believe. This the only way to become lead by God's own Spirit into doing that which Jesus Christ did and more- John 14 vs 3 - 7

3. There is no "spiritual" or "carnal" angle to anything. There is instead God's Truth, and the lies of men - the doctrines and traditions(even meaningless terms) that men concoct to deceive people away from focusing on that which was spoken and taught by Jesus Christ.

I hope you will learn to listen to Jesus Christ and abandon all the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned you were all lies, so you could focus instead on what really matters which is living your every moment in continuous submission and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the one who is God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God.

God gave to you a Constitution, a Covenant in Jesus Christ and the only way to achieve anything by it is through continuous submission and obedience of the teachings (and commandments- about 100 of them ) of Jesus Christ , the one who is the Gospel. That is His mandate to you. As you continue to Trust Him in this, He will continue to abide in you. It is really that simple.

speaklove i want to ask you if you feel a gentle breeze blow through your eyes when you speak in tongues or pray watin he mean ?

azammi:
speaklove i want to ask you if you feel a gentle breeze blow through your eyes when you speak in tongues or pray watin he mean ?

Honestly speaking I don't know what it means .
I don't think I have experience or heard that before .
I think you should re-evaluate that again ,and then trust the holy spirit to discern its meaning if it's indeed real .

Bruno3000:
Ok... Let me put it this way; the version of Peter that denied our Lord Jesus is the carnal Peter while the version that boldly preached after pentecost so that about 3 thousand souls were won is the SPIRIT FILLED AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND PETER. To be carnal is to depend on ur natural senses in order to carry out a task, while to be spiritually sound and alert is to totally depend on the leading and dictates of the Holy spirit in order to carry out a task. That is what qualifies u to be called a child of God. John 1:12,13. So while trying to discuss or argue the things of God, doing it from the human angle and knowledge alone is a waste of time. Be spirit filled and spirit led.

Wow !
God bless you sir .
I think we can't cease to learn no matter what height of knowledge ,wisdom or maturity we could have attain .

I am humbled to known once more that we have people who have such depth on the things of the spirit in this great forum.

I will like to a part of those who drink from this river that flows through you .

I'm flattered. Glory to God. Continue the good work sir.

Speaklove:


Wow !
God bless you sir .
I think we can't cease to learn no matter what height of knowledge ,wisdom or maturity we could have attain .

I am humbled to known once more that we have people who have such depth on the things of the spirit in this great forum.

I will like to a part of those who drink from this river that flows through you .

Thank you father
Thank you son
Thank you holy spirit .

Happy sunday

Speaklove:
Happy sunday

please, what does it mean for rain drop on the body when it's not raining?

reubenobi:
please, what does it mean for rain drop on the body when it's not raining?

When did you begin to feal the water fall on you ?
What do you used to do when you noticed it ?

Answer me now please

Speaklove:


When did you begin to feal the water fall on you ?
What do you used to do when you noticed it ?

Answer me now please

mostly when i am praying and sometimes tingling fire burning all over my body. So many encounters.

reubenobi:
mostly when i am praying and sometimes tingling fire burning all over my body. So many encounters.

Alright .
Your answer is consistent with my experience ,and alignes with the the scriptures .
Now this is the answer to your question .

Feel free to ask him anything you don't understand in what I wrote ,and God will help us with wisdom .

Read very carefully so that you can understand and meditate as you read .
Don't just read but meditate as you read .

reubenobi:
please, what does it mean for rain drop on the body when it's not raining?

This is one of the things I love to hear about .
It is almost an everyday experience in my life
Since the time it began but it subsided gradually .

Now that thing you are feeling dropping on you like a dew is the water or life .

Have you not read it in the book of revelation
That those who thirst should take of the water freely ?

People who engage in intercession ,praise and worship will began to experience this if they do so for long .

And there is a reason why God makes it falls on people.

It is to strengthen your spirit ,and purifies you .
Two majors uses of water
1. For washing -purification ,sanctification . bath
2. To energize , to strengthen ,to quench thirst .

So the water is sent to satisfy your heart when you worship God .
It is like God responding to you .

The water is sent to strengthen your inner man ( I have discovered it strengths us while praying - especially when you pray in tongues the water becomes hot and fiery and help deal with your weakness ,and weariness in prayer )

And the water also signifies God's presence
This presence can influence your atmosphere spiritually .

There is a thing as spiritual atmosphere or spiritual manipulation of atmosphere - the demonic realm manipulate atmosphere to influence a people and these they pervert from God's way .
The water can influence your atmosphere when you begin to sing praise and worship to god and cause effects in the natural realm .

Example if you are among a people who don't believe in Jesus but you began to sing and the water drops .
Then the people would began to have the desire to talk about religious things or to speak about the things of God because the water responds to spiritual hunger and can influence it .
If you sing around a people AMD the water drops ,and then talk to them about the gospel the resistance will be less because the demonic stronghold around them would be weakened because of the presence of water that flows from God .

The body of Christ have not come into full understanding of these things that is why people neglect them because they don't know their meaning or why it is happening to them.

Read these carefully


Revelation 22:1-2,17
[1]And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[2]In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
[17]And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

(This water that flows from the throne of God is the water that is falling on you.
It signifies the presence of the holy spirit .
And God is making it fall on you to satisfy your thirst .)


John 4:14
[14]but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

(There would come a time when the water will began to flow out of your body (mine is at the down side of my leg ) it would literally flow like a river out of you - purifying you .)


Isaiah 44:3
[3]For I will pour water on him who is thirsty, And floods on the dry ground; I will pour My Spirit on your descendants, And My blessing on your offspring;


(So the water is for those who thirst after God) ,

reubenobi:
mostly when i am praying and sometimes tingling fire burning all over my body. So many encounters.

Ask for more explanation of you are not satisfied
But if you understand what I wrote then let me know

Speaklove:


Alright .
Your answer is consistent with my experience ,and alignes with the the scriptures .
Now this is the answer to your question .

Feel free to ask him anything you don't understand in what I wrote ,and God will help us with wisdom .

Read very carefully so that you can understand and meditate as you read .
Don't just read but meditate as you read .





This is one of the things I love to hear about .
It is almost an everyday experience in my life
Since the time it began but it subsided gradually .

Now that thing you are feeling dropping on you like a dew is the water or life .

Have you not read it in the book of revelation
That those who thirst should take of the water freely ?

People who engage in intercession ,praise and worship will began to experience this if they do so for long .

And there is a reason why God makes it falls on people.

It is to strengthen your spirit ,and purifies you .
Two majors uses of water
1. For washing -purification ,sanctification . bath
2. To energize , to strengthen ,to quench thirst .

So the water is sent to satisfy your heart when you worship God .
It is like God responding to you .

The water is sent to strengthen your inner man ( I have discovered it strengths us while praying - especially when you pray in tongues the water becomes hot and fiery and help deal with your weakness ,and weariness in prayer )

And the water also signifies God's presence
This presence can influence your atmosphere spiritually .

There is a thing as spiritual atmosphere or spiritual manipulation of atmosphere - the demonic realm manipulate atmosphere to influence a people and these they pervert from God's way .
The water can influence your atmosphere when you begin to sing praise and worship to god and cause effects in the natural realm .

Example if you are among a people who don't believe in Jesus but you began to sing and the water drops .
Then the people would began to have the desire to talk about religious things or to speak about the things of God because the water responds to spiritual hunger and can influence it .
If you sing around a people AMD the water drops ,and then talk to them about the gospel the resistance will be less because the demonic stronghold around them would be weakened because of the presence of water that flows from God .

The body of Christ have not come into full understanding of these things that is why people neglect them because they don't know their meaning or why it is happening to them.

Read these carefully


Revelation 22:1-2,17
[1]And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[2]In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
[17]And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

(This water that flows from the throne of God is the water that is falling on you.
It signifies the presence of the holy spirit .
And God is making it fall on you to satisfy your thirst .)


John 4:14
[14]but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

(There would come a time when the water will began to flow out of your body (mine is at the down side of my leg ) it would literally flow like a river out of you - purifying you .)


Isaiah 44:3
[3]For I will pour water on him who is thirsty, And floods on the dry ground; I will pour My Spirit on your descendants, And My blessing on your offspring;


(So the water is for those who thirst after God) ,

Thanks so much for this insight!

Speaklove:


Ask for more explanation of you are not satisfied
But if you understand what I wrote then let me know

Yes, i do.

reubenobi:
Yes, i do.

Glory to jesus

Speaklove:


Glory to jesus

I have questions

You won't believe I was researching about some strange experiences I've been having online and stumbled on this powerful thread.

Thank you.

I want to ask, OP, what about something like dewdrops falling on someone.. this is not rain. Even when indoors. Even when clothed, it is felt on the skin. Thank you @Speaklove

You are helping alot of us dont mind pple Speaklove please i have been experiencing drops of water(showers) fall on my head and body.sometimes its very very hot.it happens when am praying or not praying.its started 3 days ago.I experince the holy ghost(in just a second when praying or not).There is a fire in my stomach it sparks when am in his presence,it can take over my whole body.The higher i pray or groan the intense it will be.i groan like a lion too etc.The holy ghost has overpowered my flesh am very light,my hands can move when i didnt even tell it to,i can be walking and say faster and he will make me walk faster.Angels minsiter to me when am praying,literal oil,dew etc and all that.But there is this new am experiencing- LITERAL TEARS WILL BE COMING OUT OF MY EYES WHEN PRAYING,MEDIATION OR NOT DOING BOTH IT WILL FLOW. tell me where I have reached in the realm. I carry his presence?I NEED ANSWERS.Cus all this things happen wether praying or not.sometimes am walking and fire will just hit me in some parts of my body.I am a remnant(prophet/intercessor under training).I feel fire fall on parts of my body wether am praying or not.My hands,legs,and entire body reacts when am praying or not(e.g I can tell my hands to shake and it will shake,I can tell my finger to do an act and it will do it.if 3 people steal something and am called I can just command my hand to point the one guilty and it will point the one and its accurate.when I get ur attention I can direct ur movements to my body.it can throw my hands to the right and u will move to the right with force.but am not yet seeing in the spirit or hearing from God.i only sense him especially when he makes me feel his burden etc.Waiting for some answers please.Bless u

Ray360:
You won't believe I was researching about some strange experiences I've been having online and stumbled on this powerful thread.

Thank you.

I want to ask, OP, what about something like dewdrops falling on someone.. this is not rain. Even when indoors. Even when clothed, it is felt on the skin. Thank you @Speaklove

what you felt dropping on you is the water of life .
it is the same water spoken about in the book of ezekiel ,and the book of revelation as flowing from the throne of god to water the tree of life and to give drink to those who thirst .

it works in you are .
1. spiritual purification [ that is the sanctification of your spirit ]
2. spiritual edification [ strenthening you to enable you carry out spiritual exercise like :prayer ,worship and intercession etc .

worship and intercession increases the flow of the river torwards you .
the more you sing in praise and worship towards god the more the river flows towards you .

they are diffrent degrees of the river in each individual which is determined by how much you worship interceed and thirst after god .
levels: 1. ankle 2. kneel 3. waist 4. shoulder 5. overflow .

the more you intensify your intercession for nations ,praise and worship and thisrt after god the more you would feel that water literal flowing up within you being . this is the literal experience of the words of jesus which says " out of their bellies [hearts ] shall flow rivers of living waters SPRINGING UP UNTO EVERLASTING LIFE .

many people dont know that the water of life can be drank from even while we are still alive here on earth so they think living water is just about speaking in tongues ; living water is not only about tongues but is also about a water that can be literarily felt in your mouth and that literarily flows our of your very being ; you could feel it as you could feel you body .

the body of christ is not yet familiar with many spiritual things that god has install for us and many would usually speak against what they dont know or understand ,and some would try to give an interpretation to what they are experiencing out of carnal reasoning and thereby reject the thing of the spirit because they lack spiritual discerment .

sorry that it took long to get a reply . i was offline for sometime; i just stumbled on your comment, i wasnt aware of it untill recently .
SHALOM .