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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Justmesagi: 6:29am On Dec 19, 2022
obembet:


You mean Lagos is igbo region. No wonder igbos want FB to revoke State of origin
I don't know why you all are bent on twisting my comments. How many times do I have to explain myself?
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Fujiyama: 7:19am On Dec 19, 2022
TakeNigeriaBack:


Why was Yoruba the ONLY African culture/language that survived in the Americas after slavery? Hausa did not survive, Igbo did not survive, Akan, Ashanti, Ewe none of them survived. Why is that?

^^^
Fair question (assuming you are correct).

Perhaps you can educate us on the reasons why.
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Christistruth00: 7:19am On Dec 19, 2022
Justmesagi:
Yes, 9ice is Oyo. I thought Davido is Osun. Is Osun not Ife?

Teni, Niniola, Simi are from Ekiti/Ondo axis. Sheyi Shay is from Osun too. Ayra star is from Kwara.

Ede People in Osun are Ethnic Oyo People

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by plaindealer: 7:25am On Dec 19, 2022
Justmesagi:
I don't know why you all are bent on twisting my comments. How many times do I have to explain myself?


I know Lagos a Yoruba dominated state and commercial capital of Nigeria, plays a major role in these. However, their tendency to infuse their culture in whatever they do thereby propagating it cannot be ignored also.


This is your first deceptive statement. Is Lagos a Yoruba state or a state that is not a Yoruba state but dominated by Yoruba?

After the deceptive comment, you erroneously implied that Yoruba people go out of their way to propagate some kind of scheme or illusion to make Lagos look like a Yoruba state even though it's not really a Yoruba state.

How hard is it for you to read and comprehend your own comment?

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by realestate99: 9:15am On Dec 19, 2022
Justmesagi:
All these unintelligent people that mistake being rude for intelligence on Nairaland are the reason why the forum is on downward spiral. I cannot be cowered from airing my opinion because of u. I can't be bothered by your senseless tantrums.
You are stupid, the worst set of people are beings that uses various tactics to conceal their true intentions. Be a man and come out as a tribalist that you are, do not mask your real nature in trying to be civil, f***cking coward!!! The idiot is saying Lagos is dominated by yorubas instead of Lagos is Yoruba land, this is what those liberal yorubas get for giving sub humans free pass to their region.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Paretomaster1(m): 9:47am On Dec 19, 2022
plaindealer:


A sad reflection of your own poor knowledge.

Mr, don't disgrace yourself, you can never compare Hausa language with Yoruba...





What's there to compare? They have nothing in common apart from the fact that it's spoken in Nigeria just like Yoruba.

Read what I said again. Your BBC comparison was baseless.

Check a video posted by Dan_kaduna on tiktok, and see for yourself..
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by plaindealer: 9:51am On Dec 19, 2022
Paretomaster1:


Check a video posted by Dan_kaduna on tiktok, and see for yourself..


I don't have time for whatever you can not post here.

I don't even know what that's got to do with anything.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Paretomaster1(m): 9:53am On Dec 19, 2022
plaindealer:



I don't have time for whatever you can not post here.

I don't even what that's got to do with anything.


Then rest, promote your Yoruba whatever, but know that there is no comparison with Hausa language here, only Swahili can raise a finger...
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by plaindealer: 9:57am On Dec 19, 2022
Paretomaster1:


Then rest, promote your Yoruba whatever, but know that there is no comparison with Hausa language here, only Swahili can raise a finger...


The last time I checked, you did the comparison and I corrected you and your ignorant comparison.

You are too ignorant and unintelligent to even read and comprehend your own ignorant rubbish.

I really think you are a troll.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Paretomaster1(m): 9:59am On Dec 19, 2022
plaindealer:



The last time I checked, you did the comparison and I corrected you and your ignorant comparison.

You are too ignorant and unintelligent to even read and comprehend your own ignorant rubbish.

I really think you are a troll.

Yeah a troll trying to put you where you belong.... Just woke up drunk, and try to feed us rubbish...
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by plaindealer: 10:21am On Dec 19, 2022
In Mexico, Yoruba is alive and active..

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Justmesagi: 10:35am On Dec 19, 2022
plaindealer:






This is your first deceptive statement. Is Lagos a Yoruba state or a state that is not a Yoruba state but dominated by Yoruba?

After the deceptive comment, you erroneously implied that Yoruba people go out of their way to propagate some kind of scheme or illusion to make Lagos look like a Yoruba state even though it's not really a Yoruba state.

How hard is it for you to read and comprehend your own comment?

Lagos is YORUBALAND. Anybody that believes it's not is only deceiving him/herself. This thread is not to troll Yoruba people or something, I was just trying to gauge people's opinion on the topic to know if my observation is true. The first person (Vehintolar or something) that called me out on this was very rude and that kinda upset me. I apologise for that.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Justmesagi: 10:36am On Dec 19, 2022
realestate99:

You are stupid, the worst set of people are beings that uses various tactics to conceal their true intentions. Be a man and come out as a tribalist that you are, do not mask your real nature in trying to be civil, f***cking coward!!! The idiot is saying Lagos is dominated by yorubas instead of Lagos is Yoruba land, this is what those liberal yorubas get for giving sub humans free pass to their region.
Ok thanks.
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by plaindealer: 10:39am On Dec 19, 2022
Justmesagi:
Lagos is YORUBALAND. Anybody that believes it's not is only deceiving him/herself. This thread is not to troll Yoruba people or something, I was just trying to gauge people's opinion on the topic to know if my observation is true. The first person (Vehintolar or something) that called me out on this was very rude and that kinda upset me. I apologise for that.


I get what you are saying, the ambiguity in your post created the needless argument, but now I see where you are coming from.

No worries..

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Justmesagi: 10:41am On Dec 19, 2022
Christistruth00:


Ede People in Osun are Ethnic Oyo People
Oh wow. Thanks btw.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Lalar27: 10:52am On Dec 19, 2022
Am just so fucking tired of sharing the same name as a country with this trabalistic fools calling themselves IGBOS. I just pray for the day Nigeria will depart and every tribe will go his or her way I pray I will still be alive to witness it. The kind of suffer you guys will suffer ehn you guys will come begging to this Nigeria to be united bunches of fools.
Your land is landlocked you guys will suffer from food scarcity. you guys are surrounded by enemies posing as a friend ( you guys are deceiving yourself if you think the south south region will gladly allow you lot to come share their oil with them without getting anything in return lol���)(i Laff in Spanish)
You guy will see hell on this earth a country that is landlocked still jealous of his neighbors that God have blessed with good culture)
You see ehn Hausa will be better off being a lone country than Biafra that you guys are killing yourselves for I bet it
They have more land mass than you guys and are more friendly with their neighbors country than you guys they can make a fortune in agriculture if they are serious with it but you guys don’t have anything naturally you guys will suffer and die of hunger like back then you guys better calm down now, follow who know the road(Yoruba) so you won’t be lost in the wilderness and last but not least your Biafra is not yet achieved not because you Guys are weak but you guys just think you can fight the fight alone wish is impossible......
OMOLUABI NI MI TOKAN TOKAN...
UP ODU’DUA REPUBLIC FOR LIFE

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by tollyboy5(m): 10:53am On Dec 19, 2022
Badb0y4lyf:
Even phyno no blow until Olamide feature am Nigerian music is owned by yorubas even if you be Igbo you must speak or say Yoruba slang. But Igbo make good music as at then I was at some bar listening to high life Oliver the coke Osadebe, now they have no successor all of them won hit big money business.
There is hardly no street jamz I've attended in my hood in Lagos that they don't play Oliver d coke at the ending time.
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 10:54am On Dec 19, 2022
Asgard73:
Yoruba will always create propaganda to hype themselves knowing their market value keep devaluating ..

Imagine the lamba from the op..

So now as Yoruba the use their language the make noise .. be say Twitter and the rest social media na Yoruba

Butterflies wey they always think themselves mountain eagles

Very funny

I am very (50%) certain that 'lamba' you just used is a Yoruba term. grin grin

You see how it has permeated even into your subconscious that you don't realize it?

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 11:01am On Dec 19, 2022
ebufa:
You are talking rubbish of course........Igbo is the face of Nollywood, At least in Africa,let us not talk of Gospel music sef, Yorubas do their stuff,Ndigbo also do their thing! The world is too big for afonja tribalism!

Stop playing.

There is Nollywood, and there is Asabawood o.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 11:06am On Dec 19, 2022
Fujiyama:
^^^
This is false.

You know generalisations (as opposed to stereotypes and prejudices) are a thing for a reason, right?

The same can be said for Hausa, Igbo, Ibibio, Tiv, Ijaw, Igala, Idoma, Bini, Urhobo, Berom, Jukun etc.

Now you are simply just being dishonest lol. grin
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by adefitim(m): 12:24pm On Dec 19, 2022
I don’t like your tone.

plaindealer:
We've seen several 100% Yoruba-speaking movies on Netflix, but never igbo or Hausa movies, in fact, Netflix signed contracts with Ebony Life and Kunle Afolayan to produce movies and TV Shows for Netflix, meaning Yoruba movies and TV shows projecting Yoruba language and culture.

Imagine igbo speaking show on Netflix, it won't sell, the language is not sweet, it's not welcoming, and it's just too harsh to the ear. Same with igbo songs, won't sell or go mainstream.



Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by ProblemChild1: 12:33pm On Dec 19, 2022
Magnoliaa:


I am very (50%) certain that 'lamba' you just used is a Yoruba term. grin grin

You see how it has permeated even into your subconscious that you don't realize it?
Will you keep quiet. "Lamba" is a swahili word. Stop talking nonsense
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 12:36pm On Dec 19, 2022
ProblemChild1:
Will you keep quiet. "Lamba" is a swahili word. Stop talking nonsense

*Yawns.*

Give the etymological breakdown and its meaning...

(I am even fine with a quick rundown of its social origins.)

And I obviously left a 50% chance open for me being wrong...

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 12:44pm On Dec 19, 2022
ProblemChild1:
Will you keep quiet. "Lamba" is a swahili word. Stop talking nonsense

Okay, here's what I found on Google, and even its pronunciation goes like "laaaa-m ba" or something. grin

And I can bet Ronaldo's tears that this is a case of independent words in different dialects meaning different things... (see screenshot 2.)

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Fujiyama: 1:32pm On Dec 19, 2022
Magnoliaa:
You know generalisations (as opposed to stereotypes and prejudices) are a thing for a reason, right?

^^^
undecided

Not sure I get your point here. Where is the generalization and who's making it - me or the fellow I quoted?

Magnoliaa:
Now you are simply just being dishonest lol. grin

^^^
Again, I don't get your point. Where is the dishonesty here?
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 1:37pm On Dec 19, 2022
Fujiyama:
^^^
undecided

Not sure I get your point here. Where is the generalization and who's making it - me or the fellow I quoted?

The person you quoted.

You were arguing based on exceptions.

Of course, all he said cannot be 100% true, but it doesn't mean the most of it aren't true.

^^^
Again, I don't get your point.

Ibibio, Efik and the rest of those other languages are the future of Nigeria or what did you say? grin

It's okay to celebrate them, and even okay to be idealistic...but for the foreseeable future, in which Nigeria are they going to be widespread?
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Fujiyama: 1:56pm On Dec 19, 2022
Magnoliaa:
The person you quoted.

You were arguing based on exceptions.

Of course, all he said cannot be 100% true, but it doesn't mean the most of it aren't true.

^^^^
undecided

And your point is?

The fellow I quoted made a 'generalization' (by your own admission). The problem is that it wasn't a generalization he made - he made a statement that simply isn't true. No facts or figures to back up his assertions, nothing. We are supposed to just swallow any claims, no matter how wild? It doesn't work that way, ma'am.

Magnoliaa:

Ibibio, Efik and the rest of those other languages are the future of Nigeria or what did you say? grin

It's okay to celebrate them, and even okay to be idealistic...but for the foreseeable future, in which Nigeria are they going to be widespread?

^^^
The poster I quoted made another claim that could easily be challenged and I did challenge it. I am all for learning as many Nigerian languages as possible. But generalizations, false claims etc. will be challenged. You mentioned Ibibio, Efik in your sermon and excluded Hausa. Why? grin
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by 1Sharon(f): 3:13pm On Dec 19, 2022
plaindealer:



You mean school kids don't wear uniforms in Nigeria bah?


If you are going to criticize, at least do so with reasonable and legitimate views.

It's actually better than Blood and Water from top to bottom.

Their are a million School and similar TV shows all over the world so did they all copied blood and water.

Some of you just criticize without rational thoughts.




Did I say they don't wear school uniform at all?

Why are you twisting what I said??

I asked, "why are the school kids dressed like that"?
Is that how Nigerian school kids uniform look like? Are the girls also allowed to have extensions with unnatural colours?


Just looking at the poster and going on to look at the trailer, I can already tell the they're trying to portray Nigerians as something they are not. Hollywood/western wannabes
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Talawaka: 5:28pm On Dec 19, 2022
TakeNigeriaBack:


Why was Yoruba the ONLY African culture/language that survived in the Americas after slavery? Hausa did not survive, Igbo did not survive, Akan, Ashanti, Ewe none of them survived. Why is that?

This is because the enslavement of Yoruba people never really got into gear until the collapse of the Oyo empire.
While the conflicts in 1750 created the conditions for the heinous trade across what is now regarded as South Western Nigeria, it took another 40 years before the Lagos port became a major outlet.

The simple truth is that, bastioned by empire, the Yoruba arrived in record numbers much later than a lot of the other groups you mentioned.

Let's rest all the talk of exceptionalism and supremacy, it is a distraction that only serves to undermine the contributions of others.

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by BanyXchi: 5:50pm On Dec 19, 2022
Talawaka:


This is because the enslavement of Yoruba people never really got into gear until the collapse of the Oyo empire.
While the conflicts in 1750 created the conditions for the heinous trade across what is now regarded as South Western Nigeria, it took another 40 years before the Lagos port became a major outlet.

The simple truth is that, bastioned by empire, the Yoruba arrived in record numbers much later than a lot of the other groups you mentioned.

Let's rest all the talk of exceptionalism and supremacy, it is a distraction that only serves to undermine the contributions of others.


while you're almost right, you must never forget when the Yorubas where enslaved after the fall of Oyo empire, they were still thesame amount of ibos being taken through the Bight of biafra. There were more ibos enslaved than Yorubas so why did ibo culture not survive?

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Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Talawaka: 5:51pm On Dec 19, 2022
BanyXchi:
while you're almost right, you must never forget when the Yorubas when being

Go on, prove me wrong cool

I dey wait.
Re: Is Yoruba Language Becoming The Face Of "Nigerian Culture"? by Magnoliaa(f): 5:59pm On Dec 19, 2022
Fujiyama:
^^^^
undecided

And your point is?

The fellow I quoted made a 'generalization' (by your own admission). The problem is that it wasn't a generalization he made - he made a statement that simply isn't true. No facts or figures to back up his assertions, nothing. We are supposed to just swallow any claims, no matter how wild? It doesn't work that way, ma'am.

Oh.

I would think you actually provided facts and figures to back up your own contrarian claims and you weren't just depending on rhetorics to counter him.

The Yoruba culture is (becoming) a popular (pop) culture, and that was his point.

Admitting that does not take away from the fact that other cultures exist in Nigeria or that they are just getting by. There is culture, as in normal, generalised culture, and there are other kinds of culture- pop and sub, etc.

Everything he claims about the Yoruba language is true when it comes to the popular culture and entertainment scene.

Brotherhood, Citation, A Naija Christmas, Anikulapo, Agesinkole, Eleshin Oba, Far From Home, Sugar Rush, Chief Daddy, Blood Sisters, Glamour Girls ... all these and more have a predominantly Yoruba cast and creators.

Living in Bondage is the only one that comes to mind as being largely Igbo.

Major musicians and the up-and-coming ones too are Yoruba...and they use the language in their songs that people across States in Nigeria listen to. From Wizkid to David to Burna Boy, Kizz Daniel, Rema, Fireboy, Tems, Joeboy.

'Soro soke' was an identifier of the national EndSARS movement.

Other tribes are trying to follow suit with the 'aso-ebi' and 'owambe' trend.

So many little phrases and question tags like 'pele', 'sha', 'abi', 'na' 'ni', etc., all comes from Yoruba.

^^^
The poster I quoted made another claim that could easily be challenged and I did challenge it. I am all for learning as many Nigerian languages as possible. But generalizations, false claims etc. will be challenged. You mentioned Ibibio, Efik in your sermon and excluded Hausa. Why? grin

There are still three major languages in Nigeria, and Hausa is one of them.

I am not arguing to win or to be right about anything, and I won't make baselessly unrealistic claims about its influence. undecided

It's one thing to admit that there are other widely spoken languages that represent or will represent Nigeria, but going so far as Jukun and the rest?

Really?

Oya, if you believe so, may be you too should show me the facts you've seen that made you confidently claim those other languages (with the exception of Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa) will be the future of Nigeria.

I'll be *yawns* waiting.

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