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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:03am On Dec 30, 2022 |
Wèrè think sey i wan follow am dey yan! ![]()
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 8:41am On Dec 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool dum dum can't even talk properly |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43am On Dec 30, 2022 |
johnw47: achorladey: achorladey: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 8:47am On Dec 30, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:fools second post of nothing to say |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:46am On Dec 30, 2022 |
{Pslam 66:18} If I regard iniquity in my heart the lord will not hear. I would think hard about the verse above-if you show any iniquity against anybody 'the Lord will not hear you. He will turn away from you, even your prayers will not be answered.. {Proverbs 6:3} Go and humble yourself; and plead with your friend. Humble yourself and settle it.. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:49am On Dec 30, 2022 |
Ask Courz to preach Jesus if he's your brother in the same Jesus as you stupidly claim. I'm not your brother so i'm demanding that you speak to your brother to preach your god to me! ![]() brocab: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Prosper1912: 10:17am On Dec 30, 2022 |
OGA NIGHTMARE JESUS AND GOD AREN'T EQUAL From the book of Matthew 20:23 Jesus made his Father’s superiority clear when the mother of two disciples asked that her sons sit one at the right and one at the left of Jesus when he came into his Kingdom. Jesus answered: “As for seats at my right hand and my left, these are not mine to grant; they belong to those to whom they have been allotted by my Father,” that is, God. Had Jesus been Almighty God, those positions would have been his to give. But Jesus could not give them, for they were God’s to give, and Jesus was not God. And also from the book of Mark 10:18 Jesus further showed that he was a separate being from God by saying: “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” So Jesus was saying that no one is as good as God is, not even Jesus himself. God is good in a way that separates him from Jesus. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Dec 30, 2022 |
Prosper1912:This is why they're ashamed to uphold any form of teaching/doctrine because JWs will use the scripture in their hands to prove EACH of them wrong. So just like Jewish numerous religious sects of the first century they're forming alliance against God's people instead of using the scriptures to settle among themselves first they want JWs to drop our teaching. The question is which of them has a better doctrine so JWs can adopt? NONE! ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:29pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
Prosper1912:Also, Jesus Christ quoted that The Father and I ARE one That is the verse that trinitarians quote If you break it down in simple english language structure of a sentence We see that there are two subjects, one verb and an object "My father" and 'I' are the two subjects Are is the verb and are denotes plurality and not singularity One is the object Jesus could have said 'I am the Father' but why he said shows that Jehovah and himself are two separate, distinct person |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:00pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
Max you are definitely not Christian: you are barking up the wrong tree Maxie, you need to snap out of it, wake up to yourself, and stop cursing the Lord: Max you pollute Jesus Name, you rubbish His Word-and you curse the Father and the Holy Spirit. Why would you believe you will have any part being with Jehovah when in fact you despite the Word of God: If it wasn't the bible in the first place-Jehovah witnesses would never have existed. Even thru the Watchtower had added and removed scriptures, the Word of God is used as our tool to bring us closer the God, its a manual to learn from. I never called you my brother: I said: humble yourself and settle it with Courz. My Mother and my Brother and Sister are those that seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. "No Max you are not my Brother.. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
brocab:So get lost! ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:15pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
We have never written down anything other the the scriptures, it's all bible verses. You wouldn't know that of course.. If the Watchtower would stop twisting the bible, then I would say stick with the bible, not that bible the Watchtower had meddled with. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:48am On Dec 31, 2022 |
You're already lost>so it would be a waste of my time, me trying to loose myself. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:18am On Dec 31, 2022 |
brocab:Great! Now you know i'm not your type so go find your type! ![]()
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 7:51am On Dec 31, 2022*. Modified: 11:39am On Dec 31, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:How come I missed this post ![]() Indeed you need a new brainYou are the one peddling unreasonableness, foolishness, fools and stupidity with the brain you have. That new brain will be very important for you. These ones that you just dropped is not similar with the first one you dropped that showed a large watchtower structure on itOh it has a watchtower structure on it and it is not similar Many problems for unreasonable, foolishness and stupidity peddling peddler. You need that new brain more. I know you will first deny that it is yours only to come back and admit later.These ones were the sound cars we used those days.The intent of my post nailed by your admittance here already. So you people to are NOISEMAKERS those days using AHUJA speakers to preach the good news Later he will be peddling his foolishness and unreasonableness and stupidity about what other Christian denominations do today.Show us similar images of the FIRST one or remain foolish that you have allowed the internet to deceive you.It is your unreasonableness, foolishness, and stupidity peddling that made you keep asking for SIMILAR images when I have already done that. The more reasons why that new brain will be fitting for you. Internet has really deceived many these days o I even have an article for your type. If you want, I will send the link cos I saw in on one site so I will go and look for it. The article states that covid 19 never existed and all the figures of people dying were fake, the restrictions was to make people die to ease world population and the images of dead people are fake or old ones.That article is for your mindsetGo bring am let me see. It still does not change the fact that those images are what your religious organization uses in their preaching activities in times past just like other religious denominations do today and you condemn them as NOISEMAKERS ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 7:55am On Dec 31, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: I did not dispute thatThat's your ways and that of your likes. Call it LIES, abuse the person then later admit. You really need that brain you are talking about earlier. Let him drop images of cars with mounted speaker and a !arge watchtower structureStill asking for similar images many problems of unreasonable, stupidity and foolishness peddling on nairaland. Na Internet they deceive me earlier, now it is I DID NOT DISPUTE You really need that brain ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 8:00am On Dec 31, 2022*. Modified: 11:45am On Dec 31, 2022 |
OgaNightmare:Like the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER was doing and some of his likes joined in saying that other Christian WORSHIP DOGHEADS yet you will see them running helter-skelter, from pillar to post dragging who they call DOGHEADS everyday. When caught in their ANTICS they withdrew and DENIALS started. ![]() Cite a scripture and ask them is it talking about the DOGHEADS they say others worship, they start running into DENIALS and LIES at the same time. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:38am On Dec 31, 2022 |
I don't want you to be my type, you need to follow Jesus: God made Adam and Eve-not Adam and Steve-I am sure I have read: you have a wife? Now it's understandable why you are a member of the Watchtower. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:03pm On Dec 31, 2022 |
brocab:The Jesus i follow has just one organization: Jehovah's Witnesses! We are no part of a disorganized world! John 15:19 We have love for our neighbours {Mark 12:31} so we must not carry weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52 We love our fellow believers just as Jesus love us! John 13:34-35 We all have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10 We are all zealous preachers and industrious teachers of the word of our leader! Matthew 10:11-13 We don't welcome different philosophies all in the name of one God! Matthew 7:13-14 We are known globally as a unique group with just one group name and the world hates us at the mention of our group name even though we've not done any evil to them! Matthew 10:22-25 So our Jesus differs from your! ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Prosper1912: 12:23pm On Dec 31, 2022*. Modified: 7:31pm On Dec 31, 2022 |
They said,they believe in hellfire and if u asked them one after the other to tell u where is located, some will said is in heaven, other beneath the earth, some will even say God have not yet create it. And the most painfulthing is that, they can't even prove it from the bible, they are just set of confuse people. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 3:54am On Jan 01, 2023*. Modified: 4:15am On Jan 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Well you claim you don't do any evil outside the Watchtower, well what about inside the Watchtower: families have been torn apart-long time marriages are being forced to separate, Children are being Molested. young men and women raped. just these few has been practiced inside the Watchtower this is a abomination against God. Has anybody prayed and fasted. has anybody in the Watchtower repented, has anybody ask the Lord for forgiveness- has anybody been delivered from these crimes against humanity. MaxInDHouse:You claim: the Jesus you follow has one organisation: you believe it's Jehovah witnesses? do you really follow the Jesus in the bible? Or is there another Jesus: ? "A Jesus that you believe you are saved by Grace, this allows your organisation to live immoral lives while serving the One true God. {Jude 1:4} You claim: you have love for your neighbors-what kind of Love are you preferring too-are these neighbors inside or outside your organisation? You claim: you don't carry weapons of war against anybody, but verbally speaking: war doesn't always come to us naturally, it can come to us spirituality, so what happens in the Watchtower, not only does it affect people psychically, it's affects people spirituality. Is this the sort of love' you obey: and worship? Or would you call this, a practice of an abomination against God.? Now this sort of behavior does not just stop at the Watchtower-Churches or over the world have also turned their backs on God: warring against their own resources within the Church-False teachers, elders pastors, apostles, prophets, priest, all over the world have committing crimes such as these.. The real war against us is not carnal, but spiritual-it's affecting billions of people all over the world: this behavior is demonic, drawing people further away from God, do you realize God see's everything-He see's good and evil, do you know the bible tells us, even the demons watch us, their eye's are everywhere, tormenting the Christians, seeking whom they may devour-seeking whom may believe their lies and wonders-so what secrets you may think you have, are not hidden..This is why we all need to Fast and pray-come to repentance and ask for the Lord's forgiveness, we all need deliverance. we all need God to protect us, from what is coming. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:00am On Jan 01, 2023*. Modified: 5:40am On Jan 01, 2023 |
Then you need to explain why Jesus said: {1 John 5:7} For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. Three working together in One Heart One mind and One soul... From the beginning of creation in Genesis to the end of times in Revelation, God refers to Himself as "Us" or "Our" and thus describes the doctrine of the Trinity. The word trinity comes from "tri" meaning three and "Unity" meaning One. God is three distinct individuals - God the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit - in one true God. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God {John 1;1} {John 8:56-59} Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds {Hebrews 1:6} And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him" {Hebrews 1:8-10} Your throne O God.. So you see there are plenty of scriptures backing up Jesus claiming who He say's He is.."So why would you believe in a organisation who's against, the disciples Christ had chosen, these who wrote the scriptures, claiming your organisation know more about the Word of God then these chosen spirit filled men of God had written. I myself would run from anybody who claim they know God more then His Word. Many false prophets have come into the world to deceive many. Aemmyjah: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Jan 01, 2023 |
How many JWs have you caught doing those things you mentioned? In which religion do you think such doesn't happen at all? This is what i meant by accusing people wrongly just at the mention of their group name. I live in Nigeria and i have never heard of child molesters in the congregation of JWs since 1992 that i've known this group, i only read such on the internet. Jesus said: “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you. Matthew 5:11-12 All these things you're saying is due to just one reason: JWs is a group of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word! There is no religious group where such things doesn't happen but you just want to convince yourself that only JWs practice such things when we all know that these are the traits of sinful nature in humans and all organisations are filled with IMPERFECT humans. So what is your point? Jehovah's Witnesses shouldn't preach anymore because you have heard or read about these things in their midst. Sorry my guy you're really evil from Jesus' point of view because all humans are sinners and Jesus never promised a group of perfect preachers so attributing sinful nature that's prevalent in the world to a religious group just because they're preaching and teaching others what they know makes you an enemy of God just as Jesus described @ Matthew 5:11-12 No matter what you say we know it's due to our zeal for pure worship because all humans have sinned and fall short of perfection so there is no group of perfect worshipers you're only maligning God's people for their zealous preaching of the word of our God! ![]() brocab:
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Prosper1912: 7:25am On Jan 01, 2023 |
Maxidhouse leaves them They taught after leaving the organization they will see a better one . |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 8:27am On Jan 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: I live in Nigeria and I have never heard of child molesters in the congregation of JWs since 1992 that i've known this group, i only read such on the internet.When evidence comes from his own publications now LIES, DENIALS and ADMITTANCE will start but insult, abuses and all sorts of labels will follow ![]() “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you. Matthew 5:11-12When they do it to him, he remembers Jesus Christ words, when he does it to others he forget Jesus Christ words. Put in your note and diary that CHILD MOLESTATION and CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE WITHIN your group is NOT lyingly AND say every sort of wicked thing against your GROUP for my sake. Don't colour and distort what is a live and present danger there To show how serious the issues really are it was made a TALK at one of your district conventions(2016/2017). Those listening then would think they were cautioning members from outsiders not knowing they were passing a message about the live and present dangers within the organization. Come 2019 about three to four watchtower study articles was set aside for this same problem child sexual abuse within your religious organization to caution and warn members. Abi study articles are for OUTSIDERS or those not members of your religious organization? Prominent members of your religious organization were caught in the act as far back as +/-37 years doing the same. All your correspondence and manuals given to your elders comes up with policies and procedures dealing with CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE yet he comes to the platform to colour it as LIES and SAYING EVERY SORT OF WICKED THINGS ABOUT your religious organization. Oga apply your intelligence and stop distorting information to look good and make your religious organization look good. ![]() There is no religious group where such things doesn't happen but you just want to convince yourself that only JWs practice such things when we all know that these are the traits of sinful nature in humans and all organisations are filled with IMPERFECT humans.Don't colour or distort his words, show us where he said only Jehovah’s witnesses practice CSA. ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:31am On Jan 01, 2023 |
brocab:What did stephen saw just before his dead Did he see one in three persons? Did he see the person of the holy spirit Was Jesus Christ in an equal position with God? |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 8:57am On Jan 01, 2023 |
Prosper1912:The trick is all in the word ORGANIZATION. Do you even understand how the ORGANIZATION use it yourself paapaa not to talk of knowing whether it is better or not? Prosper1912 and your likes who cares throw a shot at this question based on this statement usually made from your religious publications...... Jehovah directs his people through his organizationThe word ORGANIZATION above who does it stands for or refers to? ![]() I want to see how well you understand the term ORGANIZATION as used by your religious leaders aka your GODS who resides in you know where ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:43am On Jan 01, 2023 |
Prosper1912:That's what makes them really foolish because they're expecting honest hearted individuals to desert God's organization but they can't present a better performing group! ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 2:28pm On Jan 01, 2023*. Modified: 6:18pm On Jan 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Honesthearted even when you peddle foolish, lies, denials all over the place to look good. Honesthearted in telling us you go Jehovah’s witnesses church and label, denigrate, berate others as churchgoers . Honesthearted in telling us child abuse within his religious organization he can only find it on the Internet ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 10:13pm On Jan 01, 2023 |
achorladey:Empty tantrums of Werey atheist WAILING. Ecclesiastics 1:9 "there is nothing new under the sun". 1 Corinthians 5:1 " A man sleeping with his step mother" in the Corinthian congregation. That is a common feature of child abuse vicious cycle repeated occurrence. The present day occurrences of 1 Corinthians 5:1 persists. https://www.nairaland.com/5108650/man-sexually-molested-househelp-age#77138848 Jehovah's servants of Paul's days DID NOT applaud what is bad, neither do we. Oga, continue WAILING. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 10:15pm On Jan 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:As if there WAILING and empty tantrums go carry them Werey Atheists enter Jehovah's kingdom. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:56pm On Jan 01, 2023*. Modified: 12:16am On Jan 02, 2023 |
Your argument is pointless: if you knew Jesus Christ: you would see the light. But because you choose to stay in darkness-blind you shall always be. You claim you are Christian-then why fight against His Word. Aemmyjah:Over and over you have denied Jesus, why would the Word of God lie against the truth-it's obvious, Jesus was equal with God: God said: I AM {Exodus 3:14} Jesus said: I AM.” {John 8:48-58} God is my salvation; {Isaiah 12:2} {Acts 16:30-31} “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. The scriptures is showing me-both Father and Son have the same equal authority as each other, and then I read: God the Father gave all authority to Jesus.. {Matthew 28:18} And Jesus said: “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. {Ephesians 1:21} far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. {Philippians 2:9} For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, "I am reading: God Gave all authority to Jesus: this sounds equal to me! All three are One person. Aemmyjah:{1 John 5:7} For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. { John 14:9} Jesus said to Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Have you ever seen God? yet it say's: No has seen God at anytime, because God is Spirit, and because God calls Himself Spirit, does it make God a lair? I can spend all day writing scriptures: but it's pointless, because your heart has already made a decision: to not believe. It actually shows, you are obviously looking for a sign from Heaven, and no sign shall be Given, only because the hardening of your heart. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed.” Jesus Aemmyjah: |
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