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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 9:49am On Dec 31, 2022 |
Maid007:You can make points without attempts to twist my words. I said a psychiatrist opening a private hospital, not a psychiatric hospital I know radiologist, paediatricians etc opening private hospitals and attending to generalist cases. See you later PonziHater |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by seunH: 1:27pm On Dec 31, 2022*. Modified: 2:06am On Jan 01, 2023 |
Maid007:My dear brother, I believe you understand my point sir. You can celebrate dentistry, without reference to MBBS as a course. It's very easy. Starting from this thread, "my journey through dental school". Who are you? I am Dr. Alex, a dentist by profession shikenan!!!. Not threads like "my journey through med school" or who are you? I am Dr. Alex, a medical doctor. Semantically you might be right, but realistically you're giving people a wrong impression about whom you truly are and it reeks inferiority complex. Now imagine in your street, you tell people you're a medical doctor, and your neighbor had an obstetric emergency around 3.00am and was rushed to your house for attention pending evacuation to the hospital, what would you do? Perhaps at that point in time, you'll say whom you truly are, imagine how your neighbor would feel but may not be able to say anything out of respect. So that's our point here. Your colleagues in UK have similar problem of inferiority, that's why not until 2005, dentists were banned from using the doctor title. A case in study was a dentist, who advertised himself and secretly removed anything that would allow an average person know he was a dentist. He was apprehended and the UK govt had to force dentists in UK to clearly identify themselves as dentists, imagine the disgrace!!!. In conclusion, I've showed you some examples, let people know who you are. By definition some dictionaries define a Veterinarian as a medical doctor who deals with animal disease and even some dictionaries define a Veterinarian as a physician who deals with animal disease. But won't it be dishonest if I introduce myself as a medical doctor or a physician, even though in cases of emergency, we have the ability to handle human condition !!!. But we would never mislead people, because we are proud of who we are. There are many things a DVM can do that a MBBS cannot do and vice versa, so why won't we be proud. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by seunH: 2:15pm On Dec 31, 2022 |
Maid007:About the difference between both professions, I believe Ponzihater has done justice but let me add a little more. In Veterinary medicine, we also have postgraduate training school where you become a constant/specialist, our postgraduate training school has NO affiliation with MBBS postgraduate training school and we are proud of it. When you graduate from this school, you become a consultant, trained to handle advance diseases in animals which an ordinary Veterinary officer can not handle. Infact our specialties are the most diverse in the world because of the different species we work with, for instance in neurosurgery we have small animal neurosurgery, large animal neurosurgery, equine neurosurgery etc each having it's own specialist because of the different animal specie anatomy. So sir, I assumed you said those in error, we have specialties and once a case is beyond you, you REFER in Veterinary medicine. Animal life is equally as important as human life because we humans need animals to survive. Because animals can't talk, doesn't mean they are inferior and don't need adequate and appropriate medical attention. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by horpeyemmi66(m): 1:25am On Jan 01, 2023 |
seunH:I could send you the link to the whole paper and others that corroborate.
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 5:44am On Jan 01, 2023 |
seunH:Lol... You now follow Ponzi Hater to lie? Wow... And I thought u would be decent enough to have an argument without lying... You said UK dentists don't use the Dr. title in UK because they were dishonest? You should go back to the previous pages on this thread where we discussed why dental surgeons in UK don't use the Dr. title... You and PonziHater don't even learn, you're are just bent on making baseless points. That's why you end up lying in the course of arguments. Now I know you're also not serious. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 5:59am On Jan 01, 2023 |
seunH:Every surgeon in UK is called a Mr, not as a form of demotion, but to highlight that they're specialists and not mare physicians... Dentists are surgeons, hence they're called Mr.. I have posted this picture here before. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon Before you engage me in any further argument, kindly read through the previous pages so we don't end up repeating conversations. One more lie from you and I won't bother to reply.
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 6:11am On Jan 01, 2023 |
It should be noted that the only reason I am here offering clarification is for the sake of the aspiring dental surgeons, the general public, does that are still trying to learn about the profession and who would easily be misled by the lies that people like PonziHater and SeunH dish out here. If it was just because of people like PonziHater, I wouldn't even be wasting my time here... |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by seunH: 4:38pm On Jan 01, 2023 |
Maid007:My dear friend, if you observed my comments so far, you'll see that I've been very respectful and civil, and I never called you names. My dear friend, I DON'T TELL LIES, and I will never have gotten to this position I am in life, if I lie over petty issues. Why will I lie against dentistry, a course that is professional and very lucrative esp outside Nigeria A course that is one of the highest paid in the world . What we are only saying is: 1) Be proud of your profession without hanging it on another profession 2) Stop misleading upcoming dentists that they are medical practitioners/doctors, and dentistry is a "branch" of medicine like Opthalmology, Dermatology, Cardiology etc. When we both know that is not the case realistically. So that's it, no need for insults. Now, to the issues you called me a liar over. I want to provide proof one by one with evidence in my next post |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by seunH: 5:35pm On Jan 01, 2023*. Modified: 10:23pm On Jan 01, 2023 |
Maid007:Please note, all that I'm about to post can be verified via the links I provided at the end of the posts. Dentists used to be called Mr, not because they are surgeon like MBBS holders, but because the UK govt wanted to distinguish them from medically qualified doctors (MBBS) (see evidence attached below). For instance, as a Neurosurgeon, if you use the Dr title instead of Mr while advertising, you can't be held liable, because you're originally medically qualified (MBBS) and your name is in the GMC register (See evidence attached below). But if a dentist used the Dr. Title, then before they were allowed to use the title, he/she would be held liable because he/she is not medically qualified (see evidence attached below). Even after been allowed to use the Dr title, Dentists are still required to state clearly that they are dentists while using the Dr. Title especially during advertisement (see evidence attached below). I also stated that a Dentist in UK was once held liable for using the Dr. Title, without showing clear evidence that he is a dentist not a medically qualified practitioner, thereby misleading the public (see evidence attached below). I also stated that in the past Dentists in UK were using Mr, till it was changed to Dr, while till now MBBS Surgeons eg Neurosurgeons still use Mr. Title, showing clearly that the 2 professions are completely different (see evidence attached below) . So my dear friend pin point exactly where I lied so that can provide evidence. My brother, this is not a war, we are all learning. Cheers https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/Woodvale-Clinic-A12-206574.html https://dentistry.co.uk/2009/02/19/dentist-fails-move-call-himself-dr/
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 12:09am On Jan 02, 2023 |
seunH:First of all, do u know what the ASA is? It stands for "Advertising Standards Authority". It's just a regulatory body for commercial advisements. They have no say in the medical or dental society. They are just concerned with advertising businesses. You also left out the part were the ASA is said to have gone out of line. Asking dental surgeons to clarify their expertise when using the Dr. title on bill board wont affect the their membership in the Royal college of surgeons. The below pictures are from the same link you posted.
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 12:30am On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 12:56am On Jan 02, 2023 |
seunH:1. I have never been more proud of my future profession. 2. Send me a screenshot of anywhere on this thread where I ever mentioned that Dental surgeons are doctors of medicine or medical practitioners and not doctors of dental medicine/surgery. If you can do this, I promise to never counter anything you say. If you can't, then you know you have had this twisted right from the beginning. I'm very mindful of things I say here because I know it can be used against me later, that's why I only say the facts. And yes, dental surgery is a branch of medicine just like ENT, Ophthalmology and even podiatry is a branch of medicine, quote me anywhere. You can check Wikipedia or even your dictionary for reference.
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 4:01pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Maid007:Wikipedia is not an academic source, and it is appalling to reference Wikipedia on a Cerebral discourse. Anyone can go to a Wikipedia page to edit it. You are being schooled but refuse to accept just like most of your colleagues. It's a new year, and I wish us all the very best. PonziHater |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 4:07pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Maid007:"A dentist is a doctor, so they complete a path of study that’s similar to that of a medical doctor. The first step is to complete an undergraduate program in a related field like biology, chemistry, health, or math, and earn a bachelor of science degree. Next is a dental admissions test, which you need to take to apply for dental schools" https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/what-is-a-dentist I have referenced WebMD because it is more verified than Wikipedia for med stuff. It clearly says similar to medical doctors meaning they are not. You have directly not call yourself a medical doctor, but that's what most of your colleagues have insinuated. Happy new year and all the best |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 8:10pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
sgtponzihater1:Lol... This is laughable. We both know WebMD is not as verse as Wikipedia. WebMD won't give u history of something (among other things)... But it's alright. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Maid007: 8:44pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
sgtponzihater1:WebMD hasn't said anything contrary to what I have been saying here. Good to know you're beginning to see the light. It's what happens when u seek answers instead of just drawing conclusions base on "what you think". And we've always reiterated that dental surgeons are doctors of dental medicine (dental doctors), not doctor of medicine (medical doctor)... And for distinction purpose I have always used "medical and dental doctors" in our previous discourse (you can refer to the previous pages)... All the best to you, too... |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by sgtponzihater1(m): 8:59pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Maid007:Yep WebMD, patient.info are credible sources for patients. Wikipedia while loaded with a lot of information is cramped with disinformation as well, and patients should not be sent to this as a credible source. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Wonderkidsam: 11:25pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
This is 2023 and the argument between MBBS and BDS is still hot ��, this just shows how great both fields are. I am a proud dental student by the way. A dentist to be, a surgeon to be, a doctor to be. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 1:19pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
sgtponzihater1:You are asking me if I do psychiatry and ophthalmology, it's obvious you don't know anything lol � |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by AlacrityVictor(m): 2:19am On Apr 06, 2023*. Modified: 2:45am On Apr 06, 2023 |
Dentists are not doctors they are farmers They farm on patients with dental or oral trauma and also the patients oral region is entirely disconnected from the rest of the body😕 Ponzi and Co you guys are matured and civilized enough to be dishing out such delusion to the general public. Dentists are doctors Infact they are physicians of the oral & maxillofacial region because: 1. They pass through both medical and dental science training to obtain a doctorate degree(DDS or DMD) 2. They diagnose 3. They prognoses and treat diseases of the oral region 4. They prescribe drugs 5. They operate on patients All to the trauma or disorder of the oral region. But if you feel they are not just wait till you encounter a very severe trauma/disorder in your oral region. People that reason the way you do are the reason our society is in this menace state. I could recur one time in school, a nursing student while playing ball hit his face on the iron goal post. And develop an issue in his gum, he noticed some sharp pains so he ran to chemist , all these chemists that do shadow doctors he administered all he could but this guy’s issues keep worsening. He ran to hospital unluckily for him he met one of those Medical doctors that do shadow their dental counterparts cos they feel they know everything, he packed drugs for him and he keep taking them and visiting the hospital. Few weeks later this guy couldn’t talk any more, the whole of face has swollen even the gum with very severe pain all over. This effect triggered some general body change, like he can feel change in temperature, fever and weakness etc. Every night his cried like a kid due to severity of pain. To a point he couldn’t eat any longer, someone advised him to better go inside town or the University Teaching hospital and look for a dentist before his issues get out of hand He ran and luckily he found one who show case after radiological diagnosis that what it is has affected the 3 of his teeth & the gum ( I’ve forgotten what he call it) and at it’s severe state. The Doctor who is also a prof in UNTH told him that after treatment that he wouldn’t make use of those teeth again unless he want replacement which increased the charge. The doctor told him that it wouldn’t have been like that assuming he come on time. The doctor operated on him, He spent some time there to get everything done. He couldn’t complete his bill + money for the drugs administered, his course mates made contributions to help him out. You need to see him when he narrated how he nearly died of pain before he met the right person for the job. That encounter changed his perspective towards dentistry cos what he knows about dentistry b4 then was that it’s just about teeth, he was like “so this people save life too?” That’s how he researched more and find out it’s far beyond what the society say. Why did I narrate this? I did cos it’s you people’s expression has made the society to neglect their oral health. And most of the oral disorder in the society today are life threatening, they can trigger general body sickness. I heard Queen Elizabeth died out of Oral disease untreated for a very long time. Medical doctors trying to do the work of their dental counterparts is also another issue that made the society esp Africa to look less on Dentist. Later someone with periodontal disease or maybe a tooth loss will open mouth and say Nigeria does not care about their teeth. Well whether you study Medicine or Dentistry do it to the best you can, all for the betterment of mankind. There is no way the head can get off the human body, impossicant! In the nutshell, Dentists are doctors and should be accorded same respect as to their medical counter part. If you’re not okay with it go to court!
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| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 10:58pm On Apr 06, 2023 |
AlacrityVictor:Most times it's people who couldn't get medicine and got dentistry that do defend dentistry this way 🤣😀😀 |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by AlacrityVictor(m): 11:56pm On Apr 06, 2023 |
Froshchuksswart:Lolz Some peeps are still crude ah swear💔😂 Must everyone study medicine or dentistry?? By 2morrow if you encounter me on another platform you will be like “Most times it’s people who couldn’t get Medicine that defend pharmacy this way” very poor mind of Africa🤣🏃🏃 |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 6:12am On Apr 07, 2023 |
AlacrityVictor:Oga shut the fck up lol, say you no no say I know you from Lagusta thread, it was medicine you wanted but as you no fit you come get dentistry come Dey use am solace |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by DOMINO001: 6:52am On Apr 07, 2023 |
Froshchuksswart:I thought you're also a Dentist in the making? You and the guy you're attacking are on the same page. This debate doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon. Whether Dentist oo, medical Dr oo, all na scam as long as you dey this country where semi literates are ruling the literates. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 7:38am On Apr 07, 2023 |
DOMINO001:I'm a dentist in the making doesn't mean he is not capping |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by AlacrityVictor(m): 9:33am On Apr 07, 2023 |
Froshchuksswart:You know me from Lagusta Thread Ahhh So you can lie like this Go back and check the person you know from the so called Lagusta thread cos it’s not me. How I wish i ever applied Medicine💔😂 |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 12:46pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
AlacrityVictor:200L Students be doing the most wait first and pass 2nd MB lol and stop making noise |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by DOMINO001: 3:20pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Froshchuksswart:I thought he couldn't make medicine and now he's in 200 level? Guy, you're confused...something is wrong somewhere.. |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Froshchuksswart(m): 4:36pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
DOMINO001:Read and understand na why you Dey fail exams |
| Re: My Medical School Experience- The Fighting Spirit by Eben331: 2:37pm On Apr 24, 2023 |
seunH:10000 likes for this |
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