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Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

{Luke 3:16} John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
{Luke 11:13} If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”
So now we have the Father and the Son given their Spirit {One Holy Spirit} to the believer's. it's no good arguing against the scriptures janosky you are acting us a fool trying.

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Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

Blind as you are, blind you will always be-you cant even get your verses right-do you see {Luke 11:33} written above?
Are you also a fool to believe the Spirit in Jesus was separate to His Father-or maybe if you have enough sense, you may read the scriptures and look up these verses I have written down, and maybe if you have any brains left in you, you would read Jesus had the Holy Spirit just like His Father is Spirit, working together as One.
Don't you believe the JW's preach the same message-are you also working together with one mind and one heart, preaching your false doctrine across the globe.
It takes a fool to believe Jesus was separate from His Father-and having separate Spirits working in them both. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One..

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Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

Janosky:


God is a Spirit. A spirit is one being.
Jesus Christ is another spirit, therefore a distinct being, different from his Father.
1 Corinthians 11:3, a man & wife are not 1 being, neither Jesus & his Father.
Brocab you are a polytheist worshipping your 3 beings.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself

This was written by a fool: who believes Jesus had a separate Spirit from His Father when in fact God is Spirit-this fool believes Jesus could work miracles and walk with God without having the Holy Spirit in Him and working through Him. Janosky believes Jesus can do all things in the flesh on His own accord.
Do you also believe this heresy? The Spirit in Jesus is separated from His Father? Of course you do..

MaxInDHouse:
They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

I would of have believed this nice story if there's any truth in it,, but you don't even believe it yourself-you don't believe bible scriptures about Jesus; you boost about the Love you have for your fellow man, now you a mocking the so called pastor, and then you begin praising yourself, how wonderful your work has been accomplished "over the poor boy..
Maybe the father did explained it to him, but usually what happens with children they never listen to their parents anyway, who knows?
{John 3:16-18} Jesus was sent to save the world Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned.
What was God's purpose for sending Jesus? By sending his son Jesus to die for our sins, God is working to restore the radiance of his own glory shining in and through us.
{John 5:44} How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?
Max I wouldn't praising yourself to be recognized by Men "Not now, not ever.

MaxInDHouse:
They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

brocab:
This was written by a fool: who believes Jesus had a separate Spirit from His Father when in fact God is Spirit-this fool believes Jesus could work miracles and walk with God without having the Holy Spirit in Him and working through Him. Janosky believes Jesus can do all things in the flesh on His own accord.
Do you also believe this heresy? The Spirit in Jesus is separated from His Father? Of course you do..

Janosky and Maximus are one {John 17:22} we have the same line of thought, it's you who doesn't agree with your cohorts yet claiming BORN AGAIN expecting JWs to agree with you. That's why i told you to go and fortify your so called faith with your brethren first before calling upon JWs.

Wrong again, I am not expecting the JW's to agree with me at all, it's your choice to agree with the Word of God: I realize you are upset because the Word of God say's clearly you must be Born Again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
And I realize you like using {John 17:22} but even this verse doesn't line up with your doctrine, you maybe one in your organisation, but you can't be one in Christ, when in fact you don't believe Christ is One with God.
I know you don't take scripture to heart, but I would like to share these verses with you, Just in case the Watchtower haven't taught you the truth. .
{Philippians 2:5-7} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation taken the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Since you believe you have all the answers: ask yourself 'who is Jesus, where did He come from, before He came in the Likeness of men.
{John 1;1} states this argument.
I don't hate you Max: I am only here sharing the gospel: I don't know if you know this: we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age" against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So the spiritual activity going on in your life Max, it's helping you to believe a lie, then rather knowing the truth: this is demonic!
But it aren't worth getting yourself all worked up over the fact one must be Born again: I pray for you Max: Maybe one day God will call you to His Son Jesus, so you will see His Light and be saved.

MaxInDHouse:
Janosky and Maximus are one {John 17:22} we have the same line of thought, it's you who doesn't agree with your cohorts yet claiming BORN AGAIN expecting JWs to agree with you. That's why i told you to go and fortify your so called faith with your brethren first before calling upon JWs.

Go and agree with your cohorts first before preaching your useless BORN AGAIN stuff here because it makes no practical sense!

brocab:
Wrong again, I am not expecting the JW's to agree with me at all, it's your choice to agree with the Word of God: I realize you are upset because the Word of God say's clearly you must be Born Again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
And I realize you like using {John 17:22} but even this verse doesn't line up with your doctrine, you maybe one in your organisation, but you can't be one in Christ, when in fact you don't believe Christ is One with God.
I know you don't take scripture to heart, but I would like to share these verses with you, Just in case the Watchtower haven't taught it, to you.
{Philippians 2:5-7} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation taken the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Since you believe you have all the answers: ask yourself 'who is Jesus, where did He come from, before He came in the Likeness of men.
{John 1;1} states this argument.
I don't hate you Max: I am only here sharing the gospel: I don't know if you know this: we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age" against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So the spiritual activity going on in your life Max, it's helping you to believe a lie, then rather knowing the truth: this is demonic!
But it aren't worth getting yourself all worked up over the fact one must be Born again: I pray for you Max: Maybe one day God will call you to His Son Jesus, so you will see His Light and be saved.

I was just thinking about your story about the poor boy-you would have cornered him hook and line, thank the Lord his father was there to stop that happening.
I just love the way the lord work's, the Lord has future plans for that young boy, he maybe a good Preacher one day.
I already know the Word of God 'don't make any sense to you Max, I am trying to help you:
Max before it's to late, reach out upon the Lord: give yourself to Him, there's no other Name above the Christ who can save you.
You believe through the Watchtower that the chosen 144000 will be in heaven with Jehovah while the rest of the flock wait for the New Earth.
You coming to Jesus: everybody who obey's God's Commandments go's to be with the Lord: Jesus chooses us to be with Him, becoming a Born Again believer God helps you to understand scriptures more clearly, baptized with the Holy Spirit-allows you to learn His truth, this is the greatest opportunity every man women Child can experience how powerful and how Spiritual the Word of God is.
Born again doesn't mean discrimination: all colors are treated equally, black white are all the same to the Lord-you can be either Greek or Jew, slave or free, all welcome.
No one chooses for you who's going to heaven: that's up to you, that's your choice, how you want to walk with the Lord.
Think about it, the next time you talk with any poor boy, you would know you are doing for the right reasons for the Lord..

MaxInDHouse:
Go and agree with your cohorts first before preaching your useless BORN AGAIN stuff here because it makes no practical sense!

Go and agree with your cohorts before coming to PREACH your BORN AGAIN stuff!

brocab:
I was just thinking about your story about the poor boy-you would have cornered him hook and line, thank the Lord his father was there to stop that happening.
I just love the way the lord work's, the Lord has future plans for that young boy, he maybe a good Preacher one day.
I already know the Word of God 'don't make any sense to you Max, I am trying to help you:
Max before it's to late, reach out upon the Lord: give yourself to Him, there's no other Name above the Christ who can save you.
You believe through the Watchtower that the chosen 144000 will be in heaven with Jehovah while the rest of the flock wait for the New Earth.
You coming to Jesus: everybody who obey's God's Commandments go's to be with the Lord: Jesus chooses us to be with Him, becoming a Born Again believer God helps you to understand scriptures more clearly, baptized with the Holy Spirit-allows you to learn His truth, this is the greatest opportunity every man women Child can experience how powerful and how Spiritual the Word of God is.
Born again doesn't mean discrimination: all colors are treated equally, black white are all the same to the Lord-you can be either Greek or Jew, slave or free, all welcome.
No one chooses for you who's going to heaven: that's up to you, that's your choice, how you want to walk with the Lord.
Think about it, the next time you talk with any poor boy, you would know you are doing for the right reasons for the Lord..

Think about it, you have your chance becoming a true Born again Christian, for the first time in your life you will begin to know the Lord: the scriptures will open doors for you, your understanding in the Word will increase, remember this is coming directly from God Himself, the Spirit of God-the Holy Spirit will teach you all things-if you ask for wisdom, knowledge the Lord will supply you with as much as you desire.
This is the greatest opportunity freely given, all we got to do is reach out to Christ, seek His kingdom and His righteousness and all things shall be added to us.
So the next time you talk with anybody, you would know you are free to do so-no rules no regulations from any organisation, freely you will be doing it 'for the Lord..

MaxInDHouse:
Go and agree with your cohorts before coming to PREACH your BORN AGAIN stuff!

Obviously you're a real lunatic because if you can't agree with your cohorts over this your stuff i don't know how you're going to convince any sane human to accept your delusional BORN AGAIN bruhaha!

brocab:
Think about it, you have your chance becoming a true Born again Christian, for the first time in your life you will begin to know the Lord: the scriptures will open doors for you, your understanding in the Word will increase, remember this is coming directly from God Himself, the Spirit of God-the Holy Spirit will teach you all things-if you ask for wisdom, knowledge the Lord will supply you with as much as you desire.
This is the greatest opportunity freely given, all we got to do is reach out to Christ, seek His kingdom and His righteousness and all things shall be added to us.
So the next time you talk with anybody, you would know you are free to do so-no rules no regulations from any organisation, freely you will be doing it 'for the Lord..

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you're a real lunatic because if you can't agree with your cohorts over this your stuff i don't know how you're going to convince any sane human to accept your delusional BORN AGAIN bruhaha!

Why so vulgar?

Why are you calling him a lunatic when he didnt insult you?

Can you not speak without raining insults??

Max you got to read the scriptures yourself, I never wrote one must be born again, the Lord wrote it down, He said; you must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
I realize you don't understand the scriptures, I am trying to help you max: this is your chance to be saved-with the little 1% knowledge you have now, picture this, coming to Christ your knowledge will increase 10 times 10, the Lords wisdom will grow in you, you won't be disappointed:
Having the Lord by your side; you will be learning bible verses you didn't know existed, the Word will open up to you, that's the promise the Lord had given to all those who chooses to believe.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you're a real lunatic because if you can't agree with your cohorts over this your stuff i don't know how you're going to convince any sane human to accept your delusional BORN AGAIN bruhaha!

brocab:
Max you got to read the scriptures yourself, I never wrote one must be born again, the Lord wrote it down, He said; you must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
I realize you don't understand the scriptures, I am trying to help you max: this is your chance to be saved-with the little 1% knowledge you have now, picture this, coming to Christ your knowledge will increase 10 times 10, the Lords wisdom will grow in you, you won't be disappointed:
Having the Lord by your side; you will be learning bible verses you didn't know existed, the Word will open up to you, that's the promise the Lord had given to all those who chooses to believe.

Nice Preaching you are doing for Mad MaxInDHouse. Unfortunately, your Preaching is in vain. You can see Mad MaxInDHouse knows nothing about being born again. He even mocks the doctrine. A doctrine that comes from Jesus. Did you know that when I was in this Cult, I never quite understood what being Born Again means. The explanation from Watchtower also didn't make sense to me. It was when I left and decided to read the Bible alone, I then understood the whole Born again process well. It was so straightforward to me.

I keep saying it that JWs are very backward in the knowledge of the Bible. There is a danger in blindly following Men, Freemasons for that matter, because you will be led astray. They have admitted that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. That's a Red flag because you will be taught fantasies and delusions.

Let me share a discussion I had with a JW in another forum. You remember the Bible verse where Jesus gave an expo on how he will judge the world. He said he will separate his sheep from the Goats. His Sheep on his right, the goats on his left. Jesus said he will tell his Sheep to come and inherit the Kingdom that has been prepared for them since the world began which means They will be in Heaven. How do we know? Apostle Paul said Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Physical bodies will be turned to spirit form. Very clear. Therefore, all of Jesus sheep are going to Heaven. But in JW Land, this is a contradiction because They are taught that only the Anointed will inherit the Kingdom and will go to heaven. So, the rest of JWs who are not anointed have been excluded without JWs knowing it. Now based on this, I asked this JW, when that time comes for Jesus to separate his Sheep from the Goats, where will he be since he is not anointed? Is he going to be with the Goats? He kept giving long stories and evading the question. It was a pitiful sight to behold because JWs are not aware that their teachings have excluded them from the road to life that Jesus has given freely. Watchtower came along and blocked that road and they are not seeing it. The good thing about the words of Jesus in this verse is he explicitly mentioned two destinations for the world when he will come to judge: His sheep are inheriting the Kingdom which is Heaven while the Goats will be destroyed. He never mentioned Paradise Earth as Watchtower teaches. So, where do the majority of JWs fit in? Are they Sheep or Goats? Watchtower indirectly says JWs are Goats according to their doctrine.

This is why your explanation of being Born Again cannot be understood by Mad MaxInDHouse. Jesus was very clear that in order for anyone to see the Kingdom, he or she MUST be born again. JWs who are not anointed according to Watchtower have been excluded because they are NOT Born Again and therefore will not see the Kingdom as Jesus said. They don't even know the implications of this. Too bad. That's what you get for following Freemasons.

Long story bro, well you would know the in's and out's about Watchtower, no wonder the JW's hate you with a passion, you were one of them an enemy to the world, now you are an enemy to them.
Well I suppose this is what we are here for, preaching the message: I was showing a little kindness to Max; showing young Max we stand for our belief's in Christ.
You are right they are confused about the scriptures, they use them without having any idea what they have written down, just like {John 17:22} this is used as their argument that they are one, then I ask myself: ONE IN WHAT? they obviously don't believe Christ and the Father are One, so how is it, they claim they are one.
I have heard it myself from elders, Yes I agree the chosen elders do claim that heresy, the 144000 are the only ones allowed to be with the lord, while the rest of the flock are waiting for the New Earth.
Many are led by it, millions are deceived by it, I suppose it's just like any other cult's out there, they have got the gift of the gap-that attracts people 'hook and line. it's never about the people, it's always about the money that builds their empires..
Being on this forum is quiet easy for me to wipe my feet and walk away, as the Lord say's:
This is what I like about the Word, we all have choices, and it's a free gift, I don't have to buy my way into heaven: all the Lord expects us to do: is mediate on His Word day and night, seeking His Righteousness.
Well I am sure: with the story you have written about yourself, should wake up the dead, I don't think the JW's dare argue with you, after this.

Courz:
Nice Preaching you are doing for Mad MaxInDHouse. Unfortunately, your Preaching is in vain. You can see Mad MaxInDHouse knows nothing about being born again. He even mocks the doctrine. A doctrine that comes from Jesus. Did you know that when I was in this Cult, I never quite understood what being Born Again means. The explanation from Watchtower also didn't make sense to me. It was when I left and decided to read the Bible alone, I then understood the whole Born again process well. It was so straightforward to me.

I keep saying it that JWs are very backward in the knowledge of the Bible. There is a danger in blindly following Men, Freemasons for that matter, because you will be led astray. They have admitted that they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. That's a Red flag because you will be taught fantasies and delusions.

Let me share a discussion I had with a JW in another forum. You remember the Bible verse where Jesus gave an expo on how he will judge the world. He said he will separate his sheep from the Goats. His Sheep on his right, the goats on his left. Jesus said he will tell his Sheep to come and inherit the Kingdom that has been prepared for them since the world began which means They will be in Heaven. How do we know? Apostle Paul said Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Physical bodies will be turned to spirit form. Very clear. Therefore, all of Jesus sheep are going to Heaven. But in JW Land, this is a contradiction because They are taught that only the Anointed will inherit the Kingdom and will go to heaven. So, the rest of JWs who are not anointed have been excluded without JWs knowing it. Now based on this, I asked this JW, when that time comes for Jesus to separate his Sheep from the Goats, where will he be since he is not anointed? Is he going to be with the Goats? He kept giving long stories and evading the question. It was a pitiful sight to behold because JWs are not aware that their teachings have excluded them from the road to life that Jesus has given freely. Watchtower came along and blocked that road and they are not seeing it. The good thing about the words of Jesus in this verse is he explicitly mentioned two destinations for the world when he will come to judge: His sheep are inheriting the Kingdom which is Heaven while the Goats will be destroyed. He never mentioned Paradise Earth as Watchtower teaches. So, where do the majority of JWs fit in? Are they Sheep or Goats? Watchtower indirectly says JWs are Goats according to their doctrine.

This is why your explanation of being Born Again cannot be understood by Mad MaxInDHouse. Jesus was very clear that in order for anyone to see the Kingdom, he or she MUST be born again. JWs who are not anointed according to Watchtower have been excluded because they are NOT Born Again and therefore will not see the Kingdom as Jesus said. They don't even know the implications of this. Too bad. That's what you get for following Freemasons.

All I can say: the Lord separated His sheep for the flock of wolves, and made a point to the Pharisee one must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.
Many religions are trying to climb up another way-but what they refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the only door to God. There's no window there's no other door 'that they will enter in.
It's simple to reach out to the Lord; this is a free gift for those that want it.
Cult's always believe they are right with answers, but deep within the dead do not know their past nor their future.
People are dying everyday: those who sat in churches-and still didn't know the Lord:
Don't people in the Watchtower understand, if I was told I would be caste out, if I saved my child by given them blood that would give them life, I would prefer to be caste out, don't they understand God is not the God of the dead: but of the living. {Luke 20;38, Luke 12:27}
I don't see any point in witnessing to anybody about God, if I wasn't Born Again, it's clear what the Lord say's: {John 3:3} these are chosen people Christ was given by God, Jesus made a point to separate His people, away from the rest of the world.
There's no other way-to enter into His Kingdom.
The Lord say's: test everything, when I hear preachers preach gospel, I test it, if it's not lining up with the Word, I won't waste my time with them, this is what the JW's should be doing: testing the elders, to see if they are preaching the Word of God. If what they preach doesn't line up-run, and find somewhere else where they will hear to truth.

oteneaaron:
Why so vulgar? Why are you calling him a lunatic when he didnt insult you? Can you not speak without raining insults??

LIAR! Tell him Jesus never existed as you've been trying to convince others on this forum and stop hiding under another account so both of you can settle your differences before telling me the truth is vulgar.
If he's not a lunatic how can someone keeps talking about agreement with a person who is yet to get the sense of what he's saying?
He wants me to agree with his BORN AGAIN stuff yet none of his cohorts here are in union with him regarding his ideology.
Ọmọ that's not vulgar but fact!

Go and learn what BORN AGAIN mean first!

brocab:
Max you got to read the scriptures yourself, I never wrote one must be born again, the Lord wrote it down, He said; you must be Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
I realize you don't understand the scriptures, I am trying to help you max: this is your chance to be saved-with the little 1% knowledge you have now, picture this, coming to Christ your knowledge will increase 10 times 10, the Lords wisdom will grow in you, you won't be disappointed:
Having the Lord by your side; you will be learning bible verses you didn't know existed, the Word will open up to you, that's the promise the Lord had given to all those who chooses to believe.

MaxInDHouse:
LIAR! Tell him Jesus never existed as you've been trying to convince others on this forum and stop hiding under another account so both of you can settle your differences before telling me the truth is vulgar.

Here we go again.

Why are you calling me a liar?

When have I lied to you?

Anybody can crosscheck your posts and mine on NL and they can decide who the actual liar is.

Unlike you who has 3 accounts on Nairaland , I only have this account.

About Jesus, I still stand by what I have said many times now - through the study of ancient history, it is quite clear that the allegorical story of Jesus in the Bible is not original but instead, a copy of similar God-in-man stories from older religions.

Till date, you still haven't shown me actual archeological proof that shows that Jesus actually existed.

If he's not a lunatic how can someone keeps talking about agreement with a person who is yet to get the sense of what he's saying?
He wants me to agree with his BORN AGAIN stuff yet none of his cohorts here are in union with him regarding his ideology.
Ọmọ that's not vulgar but fact!

Interesting.

Is this one of the fruits of the spirit you speak about?

Calling a human being like you a lunatic because they don't agree with you?

A simple apology would have gone a long way.

oteneaaron:
About Jesus, I still stand by what I have said many times now - through the study of ancient history, it is quite clear that the allegorical story of Jesus in the Bible is not original but instead, a copy of similar God-in-man stories from older religions.

Convince him if you're sure of this first before quoting me. That's what makes you a liar!

oteneaaron:
Interesting.
Is this one of the fruits of the spirit you speak about?
Calling a human being like you a lunatic because they don't agree with you?
A simple apology would have gone a long way.

Jesus is God's only begotten Son full of the holy spirit, he called LIARS "FOOLS" Matthew 23:17
So i'm right calling a madman what he truly is.
It's you that needs to find out why the madman can't agree with his cohorts like you before telling trash!

MaxInDHouse:
Convince him if you're sure of this first before quoting me. That's what makes you a liar!

I don't need to convince anybody of anything.

All I ask is for anybody who isn't as mentally lazy as you are, to keep an open mind and DO THE RESEARCH.

The information is out there, all you have to do is find it.

Jesus is God's only begotten Son full of the holy spirit, he called LIARS "FOOLS" Matthew 23:17
So i'm right calling a madman what he truly is.
It's you that needs to find out why the madman can't agree with his cohorts like you before telling trash!

Now you're saying different things from the side of your mouth.

First, are you "Jesus"?

Second, are you also "filled with the holy spirit"? - if yes, where is the proof?

Third, where did Brocab lie to you?

oteneaaron:
I don't need to CONVINCE anybody of anything.

So what are you doing now as you quoted me and trying to CONVINCE me that what i said is wrong?
LIAR!

oteneaaron:
Now you're saying different things from the side of your mouth.
First, are you "Jesus"?
Second, are you also "filled with the holy spirit"? - if yes, where is the proof?
Third, where did Brocab lie to you?

(1) Christian means Christlike so i'm like Jesus.
(2) YES! Proof, i'm saying what Christ said.
(3) Liars do face wrong direction brocab should face you and his cohorts here and compel you guys about his BORN AGAIN stuff first before addressing me.

MaxInDHouse:
So what are you doing now as you quoted me and trying to CONVINCE me that what i said is wrong?
LIAR!

Lol.

I am not "trying to convince you" - I only asked you and anybody who is willing, to do the hard work by DOING THE RESEARCH.

You made a statement earlier and I simply countered it.

Funny enough, if we go by your argument, then you and I are both LIARS.

(1) Christian means Christlike so i'm like Jesus.
(2) YES! Proof, i'm saying what Christ said.
(3) Liars do face wrong direction brocab should face you and his cohorts here and compel you guys about his BORN AGAIN stuff first before addressing me.

I didn't ask if you "are like" Jesus.

I asked if you "are Jesus" - the difference is clear.

I still ask - what is the clear proof that you are "full with holy spirit"? - is calling somebody a lunatic one of the proof?

Also, are you finally admitting that you don't know how to answer Brocab's questions about "Born Again Stuff"?

oteneaaron:
You and I are both LIARS.

This is what you've always wanted but you and i can never ever be on the same page!

oteneaaron:
I still ask - what is the clear proof that you are "full with holy spirit"? - is calling somebody a lunatic one of the proof?
Also, are you finally admitting that you don't know how to answer Brocab's questions about "Born Again Stuff"?

Jesus is a person and i am also a person so he can't be me and i can't be him but either of us can subject to the other's line of thought that's what makes me like him.
YES! The HOLY SPIRIT helps us to speak the truth no matter how bitter it will sound in the hearing of a persuasive liar. A lunatic is one who keeps persuading others over what is not possible. You can't convince your neighbor in the next room to come and live peacefully with you when those living with you in the same apartment are at loggerheads with you, that's a sign of insanity.
I have BORN AGAIN brothers in my own church so i know what it means to be BORN AGAIN but since he feels everyone in his own church must be born again then let him prove it by agreeing with you who is one of his friends after all charity they say begins at home!

brocab:
All I can say: the Lord separated His sheep for the flock of wolves, and made a point to the Pharisee one must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.
Many religions are trying to climb up another way-but what they refuse to acknowledge Jesus is the only door to God. There's no window there's no other door 'that they will enter in.
It's simple to reach out to the Lord; this is a free gift for those that want it.
Cult's always believe they are right with answers, but deep within the dead do not know their past, nor the future.
People are dying everyday: those who sat in churches-and still didn't know the Lord:
Don't people in the Watchtower understand, if I was told I would be caste out, if I saved my child by given them blood that would give them life, I would prefer to be caste out, don't they understand God is not the God of the dead: but of the living. {Luke 20;38, Luke 12:27}
I don't see any point in witnessing to anybody about God, if I wasn't Born Again, it's clear what the Lord say's: {John 3:3} these are chosen people Christ was given by God, Jesus made a point to separate His people, away from the rest of the world.
There's no other way-to enter into His Kingdom.
The Lord say's: test everything, when I hear preachers preach gospel, I test it, if it's not lining up with the Word, I won't waste my time with them, this is what the JW's should be doing: testing the elders, to see if they are preaching the Word of God. If what they preach doesn't line up-run, and find somewhere else where they will hear to truth.

Unfortunately in JW, they are not taught to test what they are taught to see if what they are taught is True. They are taught to listen to Watchtower, accept and obey anything they are told whether what they are taught makes sense or not from a Human standpoint. Watchtower requires Blind obedience. JWs are told all the time that Jesus and Jehovah trust the Governing body. Therefore, they should trust the Governing body too. You can see that they are told something completely opposite from what the Bible says.

As a typical Cult, Watchtower never tolerates Questioning. It is forbidden to question their leaders or correct them. But the Bible says you must question. Questioning is part of the the testing process the Bible demands. But in JW, once you start to question the leadership or try to correct a wrong doctrine or opinion, you will be marked. The Elders will be ordered from above to watch you like CIA Agents. You will be branded an Apostate. If you saw something from the Bible that contradicts the doctrines of Watchtower and you went ahead to write a letter to the Headquarters of Watchtower in order to correct them, you will be disfellowshipped. How do I know? It has happened to a JW, Carl Olof Jonsson (I have forgotten his position he held in Watchtower, someone who knows should remind me) Who was trying to correct the doctrine of when Jerusalem was destroyed. He even wrote a book titled Gentile Times Reconsidered explaining the correct date by using the Bible and Archaeological evidence together. Every archaeological evidence points to 586/587 bce. Archaeological evidence that was preserved since the time of King Nebuchadnezzar. A former Governing body member actually did his research, going to libraries and examined archaeological evidence but found no supporting evidence for 607 bce but instead found 586/587 bce. Ordinary Google also confirms the archaeological evidence. Only Watchtower teaches that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce. Just because someone did thorough research and saw the fraud in the doctrine and wanted to correct them, they decided to get rid of him. Why? Because it is forbidden to correct them and because the correction will expose the fact that Jesus never selected them in 1919. It will also expose the fact that 1914 is wrong and made up and that their authority over them is a fraud. Watchtower doesn't want JWs to know about this. They will see the fraud. Their imaginary calculations from 607 bce leads to 1914 which was supposed to be the time the world would end but the world didn't end on that date, they eventually changed it to when Jesus came. And from 1914, they got the date 1919 which is supposed to be the date Jesus selected them as the One True religion. Once a JW knows all of this, they will leave the Cult. Many found out about this Disfellowshipping story, found out about 607 bce and eventually left the Cult.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you've always wanted but you and i can never ever be on the same page!

Lol.

If we go by own argument, you and I are both LIARS.

Jesus is a person and i am also a person so he can't be me and i can't be him but either of us can subject to the other's line of thought that's what makes me like him.

So if you are not Jesus, why are you using him as an excuse to call another man like you a lunatic?

YES! The HOLY SPIRIT helps us to speak the truth no matter how bitter it will sound in the hearing of a persuasive liar.

1. Where was this same Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that the world would end in 1914,1918, 1925 and 1975 and it never came TRUE?

2. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization for 10 solid years, were members of the Scarlet Colored Wild Beast aka United Nations?

3. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BCE when in reality, it was destroyed in 587BCE?

A lunatic is one who keeps persuading others over what is not possible. You can't convince your neighbor in the next room to come and live peacefully with you when those living with you in the same apartment are at loggerheads with you, that's a sign of insanity.

Lunatic -

Noun

An Insane person.

Insane -

Noun

Exhibiting unsoundness or disorder of mind; not sane; mad.

Apologize to Brocab and stop beating around the bush.

I have BORN AGAIN brothers in my own church so i know what it means to be BORN AGAIN but since he feels everyone in his own church must be born again then let him prove it by agreeing with you who is one of his friends after all charity they say begins at home!

Why don't you give him your own explanation with evidence, instead of insulting him?

Is this how you behave when you are out there preaching to people?

Is this how you call people lunatics when they ask you thought provoking questions when you are on the streets preaching?

oteneaaron:
Lunatic -

Noun

An Insane person.

Insane -

Noun

Exhibiting unsoundness or disorder of mind; not sane; mad.

So tell him the truth!

brocab is an insane!

MaxInDHouse:
So tell him the truth!

brocab is an insane!

If he really is insane as you claim, then you are also insane too.

Anybody can simply go through all your comments on Nairaland and jump that the same conclusion.

I asked some other questions.

I hope you are not ignoring those questions.

oteneaaron:
If he really is insane as you claim, then you are also insane too.

This is logical!
From my own viewpoint brocab is a lunatic and that's how himself should see me since insanes do view others as insane.

Now in reality those who aren't real insane do agree on terms and conditions while the real insane doesn't agree with anyone except himself.

So prove to me that brocab is not a lunatic by agreeing with him first before thinking of how to cure my own insanity!

MaxInDHouse:
This is logical!

From my own viewpoint brocab is a lunatic and that's how himself should see me since insanes do view others as insane.

Case Closed.

Can you now answer those questions I asked?

YES! The HOLY SPIRIT helps us to speak the truth no matter how bitter it will sound in the hearing of a persuasive liar.

1. Where was this same Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that the world would end in 1914,1918, 1925 and 1975 and it never came TRUE?

2. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization for 10 solid years, were members of the Scarlet Colored Wild Beast aka United Nations?

3. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BCE when in reality, it was destroyed in 587BCE?

oteneaaron:
Case Closed.

Apt!

oteneaaron:
Can you now answer those questions I asked?
1. Where was this same Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that the world would end in 1914,1918, 1925 and 1975 and it never came TRUE? 2. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization for 10 solid years, were members of the Scarlet Colored Wild Beast aka United Nations? 3. Where was this Holy Spirit when your organization LIED that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BCE when in reality, it was destroyed in 587BCE?

I don't remember granting you an interview over my beliefs but since brocab and others also claim they believe in Jesus whom you said is fake i'll suggest you ask them to permit you for an interview over their beliefs after all they're your friends.
Perhaps when you're through with them i'll also grant you an interview over my beliefs.

Until then keep warm and enjoy the weekend!

Maxie, I know it is up setting you, but you need to face the facts, Not I that wrote the scriptures, Christ did, He say's: you must be Born Again before you can enter into the King of God..
The bottom line is, if you aren't Born Again you are not one of God's children.
If you have friends in Kingdom Hall who are Born Again, then why aren't you looking at this as a good example for you to follow.
Courz just gave me a good run down about the Watchtower, since Courz was also an X JW, so of course Courz would know the in's and out's about the Watchtower,
Listen no one is against you Max, you told me a story how you witnessed to a poor boy, now I am witnessing to you, and you are casting stones at me.
I will defend Christ-just like you on the street defending Jehovah. call me what you like: it doesn't bother me, your abusive words means nothing to me..
After you had explained to the poor boy-you said: the poor boy's father looked down at him, my Father in Heaven is looking down on us also..
{Proverbs 15:3} The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
Remember we can't hide from God, He see's everything we do.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you've always wanted but you and i can never ever be on the same page!

Jesus is a person and i am also a person so he can't be me and i can't be him but either of us can subject to the other's line of thought that's what makes me like him.
YES! The HOLY SPIRIT helps us to speak the truth no matter how bitter it will sound in the hearing of a persuasive liar. A lunatic is one who keeps persuading others over what is not possible. You can't convince your neighbor in the next room to come and live peacefully with you when those living with you in the same apartment are at loggerheads with you, that's a sign of insanity.
I have BORN AGAIN brothers in my own church so i know what it means to be BORN AGAIN but since he feels everyone in his own church must be born again then let him prove it by agreeing with you who is one of his friends after all charity they say begins at home!