motayoayinde:


I'M QUOTING YOU BECAUSE I READ YOUR COMMENTS SOMETIMES (on politics) AND I KNOW YOU DONT BELONG IN THE CATEGORY OF THE OP.

DISREGARD ANY ACCOUNT OF THE PROPHET'S DEATH CLAIMING HE DIED OF POISONED FOOD.

HE WAS INDEED POISONED BUT HE DIED THREE CLEAR YEARS AFTER THAT, LEADING A VERY HEALTHY AND BUSY LIFE IN ALL THAT PERIOD.

WHAT POISON WORTH ITS NAMES LEAVES YOU TO DO THAT, IN GOOD HEALTH AND FOR THAT LONG?

PLEASE READ ABOUT THE PROPHET OF ISLAM IN BOOKS WRITTEN BY MUSLIMS AND NOT AVOWED ISLAMOPHOBES LIKE THE OP.

Thanks so much. I am not here to dispute your comment. But the Hadith the OP quoted, is it not acceptable in Islam? Though I am a Christian but I do study Islamic writings and even traditional religion. When I was in school I did Christian Religious Studies, Islamic Religion as well as ATR, that is African Traditional Religionist in my Advanced Level. I also learn little about Islam in History.

Ovacoma:

ISLAM IS BUILT ON LIES AND DECEIT! After all the evidence provided from muslims' sources, someone still tries to cover the truth right here? What a religion!

It’s called Taqiyya, they can deny Allah just to confuse people about their religion!

That is what Motayoayinde just did up there. He knew that all the references I gave are correct, yet he’s trying to deny them to confuse the readers

advocatejare:

It’s called Taqiyya, they can deny Allah just to confuse people about their religion!

That is what Motayoayinde just did up there. He knew that all the references I gave are correct, yet he’s trying to deny them to confuse the readers

Muslims find it difficult to defend muhammad behaviors while he was alive, his death also cannot be defended
All these clearly show that muhammad is a false prophet!

Ovacoma:

Muslims find it difficult to defend muhammad behaviors while he was alive, his death also cannot be defended
All these clearly show that muhammad is a false prophet!

That’s just it

AntiChristian

All the Muslims on Nairaland are hiding

motayoayinde:


I'M QUOTING YOU BECAUSE I READ YOUR COMMENTS SOMETIMES (on politics) AND I KNOW YOU DONT BELONG IN THE CATEGORY OF THE OP.

DISREGARD ANY ACCOUNT OF THE PROPHET'S DEATH CLAIMING HE DIED OF POISONED FOOD.

HE WAS INDEED POISONED BUT HE DIED THREE CLEAR YEARS AFTER THAT, LEADING A VERY HEALTHY AND BUSY LIFE IN ALL THAT PERIOD.

WHAT POISON WORTH ITS NAMES LEAVES YOU TO DO THAT, IN GOOD HEALTH AND FOR THAT LONG?

PLEASE READ ABOUT THE PROPHET OF ISLAM IN BOOKS WRITTEN BY MUSLIMS AND NOT AVOWED ISLAMOPHOBES LIKE THE OP.

The OP quoted your hadiths, didn't he?

Mohammed died from the ailment caused by poisoned meat presented by a jewish woman.

sonmvayina:
I don't think he died from the poison he ate 3 years prior...it is not possible.

It is possible. He was not exposed to a very high amount of the poison that was enough to kill him instantly like it did those that swallowed the poisoned meat, Muhammad didn’t swallow the poison but only chewed it, so the little amount of the poison that he got exposed to, starting killing him gradually.


Saying this is not possible is the same as calling Muhammad a liar because he confirmed by himself that the sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate at Khaybar, even when someone suggested to him that his sickness was Pleurisy, Muhammad corrected the person and insisted that the poison he ate was causing his sickness

He died in Aisha's chambers. I think he was killed by Abubakar and Aisha, so he can become the next calliph....or leader of the Muslims..I think there was a prophesy to that effect..

Even this story also ascribes Muhammad’s death to poison, it’s Shia’s account of Muhammad’s death

One of the famous ancient Shia interpreters of Quran relates a Hadith as reported by the Imams that further elaborates on the Prophet's assassination.

That interpreter is Ali Ibn Ibrahim Al-Qommi, a great scholar who lived in the days of Imam Al-Hassan Al-Askry (Peace be upon him). He was known among Shias for his veracity and honesty in the way he related Hadith from Imams.

The Hadith reported by Ali Ibn Ibrahim says: "The Prophet said to Hafsa: I will tell you a secret. If you divulge it, Allah, His Angels and people will curse you. So, what is it? wondered Hafsa. The Prophet said: Abu Bakr will be able to seize the Caliphate and power after me, and will be succeeded by your father, Omar. Hafsa wondered: Who informed you of this? Allah, the Omnipresent, the Omniscient informed me. On the same day, Hafsa divulged the secret to her friend, Ayesha. In turn, Ayesha divulged the secret to her father, Abu Bakr. So, Abu Bakr came to Omar and said: My daughter Ayesha told me a secret reported by Hafsa, but I cannot always trust what Ayesha says. So, you ask your daughter Hafsa, make sure and tell me. Omar went over to Hafsa, and asked her. In the beginning, she was startled and denied it. But, Omar said to her: If you have indeed heard this secret, then, tell us so we can immediately seize power and get rid of Muhammad”. So, Hafsa said, yes, he told me that. At this point, those four got together and conspired to poison the Prophet"
(Tafseer al-Qommi, Vol II, Page 367, Bihar-ul-Anwar by Allama al-Majlisi, Vol XXII, Page 239).

Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

haekymbahd:
Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

Aamin.

haekymbahd:
Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

The same muhammad who claimed not to know the right path himself! How can someone who didn’t know the right path show you the right path?


Say, "Indeed, I do not possess for you harm or right direction."
-Quran 72:21





Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
-Quran 46:9

advocatejare:



The same muhammad who claimed not to know the right path himself! How can someone who didn’t know the right path show you the right path?


Say, "Indeed, I do not possess for you harm or right direction."
-Quran 72:21





Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
-Quran 46:9

Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
 
"And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith]."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 4)


"Those are upon [right] guidance from their Lord, and it is those who are the successful."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 5)


Allahu Akbar

haekymbahd:
Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

I can see that you are trying to prove that you know more than your Quran and Allah that say Muhammad did not know the right direction or what will be his fate

advocatejare:

I can see that you are trying to prove that you know more than your Quran and Allah that say Muhammad did not the the right direction or what will be his fate

Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.


He showed me the right path and I am confident and proud of saying it and if you can't see I can't help you. He was a warner sent to notify human of their errors either you heed to the warning or not is your choice...

How many Muslims even told you they are ashamed of the way the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam died?

You should be ashamed of your God coming to make people kill him by crucifixion.

You should be ashamed of your God for letting John the Baptist be beheaded as birthday gift!

Anyways, i don't expect someone who believes his God died to have sense!

It is not by sense


It is by FAITH

haekymbahd:
Muhammad (S.A.W) May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him thank you for showing us the right path.

Someone that didn’t know where he himself would end
Dey play there

Sahih al-Bukhari 3929
Narrated 'Um Al-`Ala:
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet (ﷺ) that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. `Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um Al-`Ala's family), `Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! But who else is worthy of it (if not `Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for `Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds."

Quran 46:9
Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

AntiChristian:
How many Muslims even told you they are ashamed of the way the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam died?

All of you here on Nairaland, including you. You’ve lied many times that poison didn’t kill Muhammad and my reply to you was that if you say that poison didn’t kill Muhammad, then you’re calling muhammad a liar because he confessed that poison was what led to the sickness that killed him!

You should be ashamed of your God coming to make people kill him by crucifixion.

You should be ashamed of your God for letting John the Baptist be beheaded as birthday gift!

Anyways, i don't expect someone who believes his God died to have sense!

You should be ashamed of Muhammad who boastfully said that Abdullah his father was rotting In hellfire, the same Abdullah that bore name that has Allah in it, of what use is your prayers for the dead in Islam when Muhammad couldn’t pray to Allah to take his father from hell? You know why, because muhammad himself didn’t know where he would spend his eternity:
Sahih Muslim 203
Anas reported:
Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.



You should be ashamed of Muhammad whom his followers put their trust in and went ahead to eat the poisoned meat because they felt Muhammad would prevent the poison from harming them, they ended up perishing for believing in Muhammad!

advocatejare:

All of you here on Nairaland, including you. You’ve lied many times that poison didn’t kill Muhammad and my reply to you was that if you say that poison didn’t kill Muhammad, then you’re calling muhammad a liar because he confessed that poison was what led to the sickness that killed him!

Poison led to the sickness that killed him. But you said poison killed him! Did he die of sickness due to poison or poison itself?

In the same way we can say Jesus died of blood loss, heart attack and suffocation as a result of your biblical crucifixion!

You should be ashamed of Muhammad who boastfully said that Abdullah his father was rotting In hellfire, the same Abdullah that bore name that has Allah in it, of what use is your prayers for the dead in Islam when Muhammad couldn’t pray to Allah to take his father from hell? You know why, because muhammad himself didn’t know where he would spend his eternity:
Sahih Muslim 203
Anas reported:
Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire.

You should be ashamed of Muhammad whom his followers put their trust in and went ahead to eat the poisoned meat because they felt Muhammad would prevent the poison from harming them, they ended up perishing for believing in Muhammad!

Don't be inane please! How many Muslims told you they are ashamed of the Prophet's death to necesitate this thread? Which one is "you must be ashamed"...? The prophet never used the word rotten. That's a lie from you!

Na me even get time to respond to you sef!

AntiChristian:
Poison led to the sickness that killed him. But you said poison killed him! Did he die of sickness due to poison or poison itself?



Don't be inane please! How many Muslims told you they are ashamed of the Prophet's death to necesitate this thread? Which one is "you must be ashamed"...? The prophet never used the word rotten. That's a lie from you!

Na me even get time to respond to you sef!

They are even quick to quote gospel mark ending where Jesus allegedly said the people who believed in him will drink harmful substances and it won't affect them..


That was inserted after gospel of mark had been written for several years and it had been confirmed to be corruption fro xtians sources themselves.


If you ask the xtians to drink sniper and confirm what Jesus said now they won't maybe that guy will take up the challenge...

haekymbahd:
They are even quick to quote gospel mark ending where Jesus allegedly said the people who believed in him will drink harmful substances and it won't affect them..


That was inserted after gospel of mark had been written for several years and it had been confirmed to be corruption fro xtians sources themselves.


If you ask the xtians to drink sniper and confirm what Jesus said now they won't maybe that guy will take up the challenge...

They won't o! Thou shall not test the Lord your God!

AntiChristian:
Poison led to the sickness that killed him. But you said poison killed him! Did he die of sickness due to poison or poison itself?

Did Muhammad say that the sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate or not?

In the same way we can say Jesus died of blood loss, heart attack and suffocation as a result of your biblical crucifixion!

At last you agree that Jesus died and that Allah and Muhammad lied to you that he didn’t die !

Don't be inane please! How many Muslims told you they are ashamed of the Prophet's death to necesitate this thread? Which one is "you must be ashamed"...? The prophet never used the word rotten. That's a lie from you!

Na me even get time to respond to you sef!

Every Muslim that I’ve met including you are ashamed that Muhammad died from poison food and that his death has no spiritual significance!

He couldn’t even protect those that put their trust in him, he sent them to their early graves and left them with no chance of going to paradise as he himself was not sure of his own salvation

haekymbahd:
They are even quick to quote gospel mark ending where Jesus allegedly said the people who believed in him will drink harmful substances and it won't affect them..


That was inserted after gospel of mark had been written for several years and it had been confirmed to be corruption fro xtians sources themselves.


If you ask the xtians to drink sniper and confirm what Jesus said now they won't maybe that guy will take up the challenge...

So you can claim that there were insertions into the Bible when you have not talked about the Quran?


Muhammad died in 632 AD

Abu Bakr the first Caliph ruled for 2 years during which he started the first compilation and he completed it before he died and kept it.

The second caliph Umar ruled for 10 years from 634-644AD and he was in custody of manuscripts until he died after which Hafsa his daughter kept custody of it.

During the rule of Uthman (who ruled 12years after Muhammad had died) that is more than 12 years after the first Quran was compiled. Uthman ruled for 12years so in between those 12 years while he was ruling, people called his attention to the different ways people were reciting the Quran (which has been the norm even when Muhammad was alive and he didn't think of unifying the Quran into one dialect because Muhammad himself said the Quran was revealed to him in 7 different dialects)


But Uthman decided to unify the Quran into one standardized version when neither Allah nor Muhammad gave him such Instruction when he was alive.

"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 4987

So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa
"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham [b]to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 or 4987


So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence.


"...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510


[b]Hence the Quran sent to all provinces were compiled during the reign of Uthman who started ruling 12 years after Muhammad died and ruled for another 12 Years and the compilation and editing was done within his 12 Years of rule, which was 652 A.D. 20years after Muhammad had died

Also, as at that 652 A.D. there was no diacritical marks in Arabic language, it only came into existence in 8th century and the 9th century, long after Muhammad had died and long after Uthman had given out his own standardized version of the Quran

The arabic skeletal script is without the diacritical marks and vowelization:
Fathah = ah
Dhammah = oo
Kasrah = ii

None of the above dialect marks existed in the time of the prophet or Uthman in 652 AD and the present day Quran has them

That means nobody in the world has the original Quran with the original language without diacritical marks and vowelizations and that means the Quran compiled is not the same as the one Muhammad received

WHERE IS THE QURAN GIVEN TO MUHAMMAD?

advocatejare:

Did Muhammad say that the sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate or not?

So in essence he died of sickness and not directly poison! So what's to be ashamed of he lives a few years after being poisoned?

At last you agree that Jesus died and that Allah and Muhammad lied to you that he didn’t die !

Jesus die and his country didn't believe him? Stop being asinine! The agreement is in your skull. We can't all be inane at the same time.

Every Muslim that I’ve met including you are ashamed that Muhammad died from poison food and that his death has no spiritual significance!

I always repeat it that you're foolish! When your father dies you can compute the spiritual significance and sent it to us!
A dead has no spiritual significance to us Muslims except in his lifetime achievement. Muhammad lead a nation and the nation stands till today!

Jesus was 33 years old when he died in your Bible. He died of suffocation, blood loss and cardiac arrest from crucifixion.

Na so your God die!

He couldn’t even protect those that put their trust in him, he sent them to their early graves and left them with no chance of going to paradise as he himself was not sure of his own salvation

Same repetition all the time. We don't believe in early or late grave. You die when it's your time. You should even be ashamed it was your God who sentenced your God to an early grave!

You are as old as Jesus when he died or older? Just copy him and die now!

AntiChristian:
So in essence he died of sickness and not directly poison! So what's to be ashamed of he lives a few years after being poisoned?

He died of poison ogbeni.

If someone is involved in a car accident and dies, using your idiotic analogy then you will say that it’s not the accident that killed him but the internal injury he sustained from the car accident?

Muhammad was poisoned, the poisoned started destroying his body starting from his uvula before the poison affected the whole of his body, his body became hot, he couldn’t walk without being supported and even despite that he was still dragging his feet, he kept shouting in pains and ascribed everything to the poison he ate and you are saying that you knew better and that Muhammad was a liar

]You Muslims claim that Muhammad was the seal of the prophet, the best of mankind. Your Quran said that Allah did not allow Jesus to be killed on the cross but the same Allah allowed Muhammad to be poisoned to death like a common rat, how foolish can your reasoning be?

You pray for the dead and yet Muhammad boasted of how his own father was In hellfire!

advocatejare:

He died of poison ogbeni.

If someone is involved in a car accident and dies, using your idiotic analogy then you will say that it’s not the accident that killed him but the internal injury he sustained from the car accident?

Muhammad was poisoned, the poisoned started destroying his body starting from his uvula before the poison affected the whole of his body, his body became hot, he couldn’t walk without being supported and even despite that he was still dragging his feet, he kept shouting in pains and ascribed everything to the poison he ate and you are saying that you knew better and that Muhammad was a liar

]You Muslims claim that Muhammad was the seal of the prophet, the best of mankind. Your Quran said that Allah did not allow Jesus to be killed on the cross but the same Allah allowed Muhammad to be poisoned to death like a common rat, how foolish can your reasoning be?

You pray for the dead and yet Muhammad boasted of how his own father was In hellfire!

Anyways, he sha wasn't murdered by his father who is also himself!

AntiChristian:


Anyways, he sha wasn't murdered by his father who is also himself!

Muhammad was poisoned like a common rat!

advocatejare:

Muhammad was poisoned like a common rat!

Rat in your father's house die after being poisoned for years!

You're uncouth and ill-bred!

How did your Jesus God die?
With thieves!

How many people believe am for him country now?

AntiChristian:


Rat in your father's house die after being poisoned for years!

Rat that only chewed the poison and didn’t swallow it like Muhammad did.

Atenuje lo pa Muhammad

advocatejare:

Rat that only chewed the poison and didn’t swallow it like Muhammad did.

Atenuje lo pa Muhammad

Who killed Jesus?

A. His father killed him.

B. He killed himself.

C. Judas killed him.

D. The Jewish soldiers killed him.

E. All of the above.

AntiChristian:


Who killed Jesus?

A. His father killed him.

B. He killed himself.

C. Judas killed him.

D. The Jewish soldiers killed him.

E. All of the above.

Who killed Muhammad:

Poison that he ate at Khaibar that cut his aorta

Or

Allah seized him by the right hand and cut his aorta



"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

advocatejare:

Who killed Muhammad:

Poison that he ate at Khaibar that cut his aorta

Or

Allah seized him by the right hand and cut his aorta



"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

AntiChristian you better humble yourself and stop disgracing muhammad with your ignorant