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Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by LINTUNE(m): 11:17am On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot:oga get the message...Nigeria has so much ppl, yet the cost of living is so high...over there, no matter how poor, u can still afford food..infact, I learnt that food is highly subsidized there...let's be frank...Nigeria is no longer safe, economic and security wise...so stop discouraging ppl from "jappaing" in the name of hustling online, now a days it doesn't have to do much with money...this country is just too messed up.. 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by sukkot: 11:30am On Jan 15, 2023 |
LINTUNE:where do you get this wrong informtion from ? many people in america and britain cannot afford to buy food which is why they have charities and food banks who help to feed the hungry in these two countries. and i never stopped anyone or discouraged anyone from japaing. not sure where you got that. all am saying is naija is not that bad. 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by oluayebenz: 11:39am On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot: Many of them are not wise. They are found of circulating wrong info all over the internet 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by rezzy: 11:51am On Jan 15, 2023 |
LagBlogger: True, the day i heard how much a British international school here in Lagos pays its director of education (oyinbo man) en, and they pay in dollars |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by sukkot: 12:03pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
oluayebenz:insane people lol 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by FavouredNK: 1:23pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
But I honestly wonder why some people don't know how to mind their business on this Nairaland seriously. If anybody feels like and wants to japa from Nigeria, as long as that person has not come to seek for financial assistance from you. I don't see the reason why it should bother you that people are leaving because as far as I m concerned, it's their decision, their choice, their money and their lives. If they go their to be doing 3 jobs or 5 jobs it's still their energy and their time not yours. As long as they haven't come to complain to you pls desist from trying to live people's life for them. Whatever makes one happy is a go for him/ her and shouldn't be an avenue for you to come on a thread to show how wise you are for choosing to remain in Nigeria while others are foolish to japa instead of staying. Time will still tell us who is wise and who is foolish, let's just watch out for this Nigeria that keeps unfolding like onions with each passing day. 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by OGHENAOGIE(m): 1:54pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
sukkot:had anyone come to you u sadist |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Olalomi01: 2:37pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
LINTUNE: . Is this playing? I don't belief someone write this. Nigeria is the cheapest country to live in, at least one that I've personally seen. The number of homeless people in America will possibly surpass the population of a southeastern State in Nigeria. LoL. Why do I feel like Most of you have no idea of what's really going on in all these abroad countries you people worship? Like, you only rely on the "feel good" part of the abroad Nigerians tell you . If food is really subsidized , why are they crying of inflation? Nigerians are not reality intelligent as people really think they are 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Philomath1212: 2:43pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: Honda 2013? Benz 2013? Which one should we believe? I was initially reasoning with you along your view but the inconsistency can't be overlooked. Either way, live and let others live... Shikena... |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by ahiboilandgas: 2:45pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Philomath1212:keep looking like lucuzade! 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by maasoap(m): 2:56pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Gerrard59: You thrash talk a lot, you can do better |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by femijay8271(m): 3:26pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
justwise: |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Philomath1212: 3:37pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: Obviously you're not different from what people are saying... I know Seun and his mods won't do anything to you because they're enjoying your annoying troll... |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by seunajia: 4:15pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: This man, you're citing the worst experience in discouraging people from taking a chance of a better life/future. Another person can cite examples of hundreds of thousands of Nigerians in the diaspora doing excellently well. Worse still, your brother couldn't get more than a 60k job in the same Nigeria you're encouraging folks to stay back in! According today's rate, your brother's monthly salary is hardly equal to the daily wage of a blue collar worker in the same UK you're shitting on! |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by LagBlogger(m): 4:17pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
LINTUNE: So because it is too messed up, it can't be salvaged hence you're leaving to a country where things work fine event though it was the citizens of that country that made it what it is today. Based on this thinking jump ship rather than try to salvage it is what you stand for. 2 Likes |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Gerrard59(m): 4:18pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
maasoap: Coming from someone who supports ALL APC's policies, which have wrecked the country terribly, it is surprising you know what is better. Tinubu supported Buhari, who is a world-class failure, then rational humans should expect him to outperform Buhari? What do they say about "show me your friends...."? |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by ahiboilandgas: 4:34pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
seunajia:BDC workers and exchange rate ! My brother got a job in Firs level 9 don't know the salary but am sure is above 200k ! as an auditor and career progression to director tax No glass ceiling! Instead of using the Msc degree ( 13000) euro to be doing caregiver (dead end careers) we encourage to come back to live a decent,prestigious and progress life ! The small savings he made working in the horrible weather in Ireland he used it to buy a car and got married and rented a family apartment! He thinking of opening is Audit firm in Nigeria and source for job in Large cooperation using his experience from FIRS. have you not heared that 70000 university worker's in paradise UK are going on strike! Do people strike in very rich Nation like qatar? the .uk citizens you are selling everything to go and meet cannot raise the 20000 pounds for MSC. JAPA to .uk if you are rich on scholarship or want to do stem subjects. 2 Likes |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by LagBlogger(m): 4:43pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
acewines: Most times? How many of them do you know to state this? People can disagree with you doesn't mean you should look down on them just as there are some with thriving businesses that disagree with you. 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by LagBlogger(m): 4:52pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Realteeyee123: Thank God you said it's your thinking and your thinking is not the gold standard for reasoning. Now I am of the view that people can make a difference anywhere. But I personally prefer to hustle in Nigeria even though I won't say nobody should leave. But people that are anti- migration may be right to disagree because the citizens of those countries you are running to did not Japa like you guys are doing but stayed home to build their country. If all citizens in the world from day one keep running to other countries no country will ever develop just as moving to a safer better country is still a personal choice. You are wrong to say all people against Japa are evil and funny thing is you don't believe people can still make it here in Nigeria. The best decision anyone can take is one that serves his life's purpose best. So ask yourself, does your thinking show honest, rational thinking? 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by KaptainAfrika: 6:11pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
Anti-japa people consists of two sets of people - THE DEMONS and THE POSSESSED, because WTF is your concern about migration that has been happening since the foundations of the Earth? People in 1st world countries Japa also, why do you want people to be in same circumstances as you are!? God punish Teresa May for that her announcement in 2011, shey I for dun become British Citizen by now, fking tories and pandering to nativism. |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
LagBlogger: In 2023 I don stop to shalaye Carry cup sir/ma, you won the argument |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Cromagnon: 11:02pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
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Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by quickly: 11:18pm On Jan 15, 2023 |
TWoods: You are not very smart, i will give you eg look at Kanye west he and his wife are rich. They are asking him to pay his wife 200000$ every month for upkeep. If he defaults he can have an asset seized or go to jail. Very easy to bankrupt a person because of their simpish legal system that is gayish at heart. Im comparing Nigeria to the west , if you build a house in Nigeria there nothing like yearly property tax. That property tax is determined by the size of your house and where you live. What is the need for the tax after buying something outright. There is still income tax over earnings you make in a year. So its a system of compounded taxation. There is still VAT, state tax, county tax. If you profit from a business, you will pay gains tax etc. As per the woman matter even if you hire a maid to take care of the children and they are in daycare. you are still in debt to your spouse. The longer the marriage the more money for her. The rule is the richer of the two will foot the bill. So if the woman is making the most she will pay to him. Thats why i am telling you in the West you basically have to pay to live unlike in Nigeria where you can enjoy the fruits of your labour in peace without massive and compunded taxation. There are some old retires that have lost everything they worked for because they couldnt keep up with the taxation and guess what if you dont pay you will have lawsuits against you. Dont answer the lawsuit either jail or confiscation of your asset. 2 Likes |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by TWoods(m): 6:48am On Jan 16, 2023 |
Your problem isnt that you arent smart, its that you have been raised in a completely dysfunctional society. Let me explain below: quickly: The judge sets child support payments (end when the child is 18) based on your income. Kanye earns approximately $180m/year. It means that at worst, Kanye takes home a minimum of $9m/month after taxes. A child support payment of $20k/month is a mere 0.2% of his total income. If you earn $40,000 per year, no judge is going to ask you to pay half of that a month in child support. quickly: This is why Nigeria remains a hell hole, your ability to think critically is virtually non-existent here and it’s clear you don’t understand how taxes work in the west. Property tax isn’t a tax on the cost of your home. It’s the cost of everything you enjoy by having your home situated in that location. The property taxes you pay in the US goes to maintain schools (K-12 schools are free in the US), roads, fire service, 911, local hospitals, recreational facilities, etc. You may not pay any property taxes after you buy your house in Nigeria, but you spend far more than that to send your kids to expensive private schools, build/maintain your own borehole, fuel your generator, maintain your roads. You are your own fire service, ambulance and 911 service. Good luck to you. quickly: Part of your federal income tax in the US goes to social security and medicare. It means you have guaranteed retirement income and medical coverage after you turn 65. In Nigeria, once you turn 65, you are on your own. See any Americans dying on queues to get their retirement income? Me neither. State income taxes cover unemployment insurance. What that means is if i lose my job, i can get paid a percentage of my last paycheck for 2 years while i look for a job. Does that exist in Nigeria? Yes western countries levy several taxes, but these taxes have their benefits, benefits that do not exist in Nigeria. quickly: If you put your children in daycare while your wife stays home watching TV all day then you married a bad woman. Sorry. quickly: You seem confused. In the US, my total taxes represent less than 40% of my total income. That leaves me with plenty of disposable income to enjoy life. An added advantage is all the everyday freedoms i take for granted - excellent and responsive healthcare facilities (even your presidents don't trust your hospitals), good roads, security, constant water, gas and electricity, peace of mind, excellent schools for my child paid for with my taxes... exactly what are you enjoying in Nigeria? Can you pick your car and just do a cross country drive for fun? quickly: This isn't true. Retirees pay taxes conmmensurate with what they earn - either social security, 401K or pensions. Compared to old retirees in Nigeria, retirees in the US are living in eldorado. 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by TWoods(m): 6:58am On Jan 16, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: They don't have to. They built a country that allows them to pay a fraction in taxes and get that MSC for free or at ridiculously low rates. The 20,000 pounds tuition fee is for folks like you who should not be allowed to come in and enjoy the fruits of their labor since you did not contribute a penny in taxes to their society. How did your brother get his job? By connections? |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by ahiboilandgas: 7:53am On Jan 16, 2023 |
TWoods:he passed the apt test and interview he is Chartered accountants the agency recruited 1500 person mainly accountant with CFA and ICAN. |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Akpaamunsi: 8:31am On Jan 16, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: Odeeh, how much is 200k per month that justifies your brother coming back home to Nigeria? Can he use that salary to buy house in Lekki? ausubulai 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by ahiboilandgas: 8:58am On Jan 16, 2023 |
Akpaamunsi:big odeeh ! You don't know that the job career progression Ab? In some year time he will director firs of a State and can get house via NHF and federal morgatge bank and NHL .while you will be senior dish washer or care giver ! When this happens you will be shouting Nepotism in Nigeria ! You left the 200k govt jobs for do care giver in the .uk. Now 20 years later the not desperate chap is director FIRS while you is senior care giver paying several visa and IHS renew fees . 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Akpaamunsi: 9:15am On Jan 16, 2023 |
ahiboilandgas: And who told u care givers don't have career progression in the health industry? U r talking of 20yrs later to own one house on mortgage , whereas a care giver in Australia or UK who knows what they are doing will comfortably build houses in the city and the village within 5years. Agbalaagba odeh. Go and sit down 1 Like |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by LagBlogger(m): 9:47am On Jan 16, 2023 |
Akpaamunsi: Caregivers are different from social workers. Social workers have career prospects whereas caregivers need further training to progress. On basic pay, a caregiver probably will build some houses in Nigeria within 5 years but without progressing the director will catch-up and surpass him/her eventually. |
Re: The Hypocrisy Of Anti Japa People On Nairaland. by Akpaamunsi: 9:53am On Jan 16, 2023 |
LagBlogger: Care givers have career progression to become either care coordinators, case workers or managers, social workers or registered nurses. In Australia, entry level for a care giver(support worker) is certificate 111 in disability or aged care, from certificate 111, the care giver can go on to study a diploma in community services which gives him a direct pathway to become a social worker or diploma in nursing which also gives him a direct pathway to become a registered nurse after spending an extra 1yr to get the degrees after the diploma. These people you term care givers, if they don't divert to social workers or nurses, eventually end up being service managers, service coordinators or directors in the industry they work in. You are talking of 20yrs for an individual to become a director in Nigeria. A lot can happen in 20yrs, the individual may die, resign or may not even get to that level. It is not a straight forward route to become a director in Nigeria because of the Nigerian factors, whereas within these 20yrs, the care giver, would have built houses, saved enough money to return to Nigeria to set up his business, and probably employ the director. Please let's be guided 1 Like |
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