Saverin:
Nigerians still don't get it. Our debt servicing to revenue ratio is projected at 123%. What this means is for every 100N FG makes, 100N goes into debt servicing (not repaying debt oh) and additional N23 is borrowed to meet debt obligations.

Nigeria has not built any foundation to recover from an economic doom/meltdown. The nation is at brink right now. Leave quietly or leave as a refugee (if Jagaban wins for sure)

You surely dont know how RICH this country is....it only needs someone to unlock the riches....
As long as we still maintain our Capitalist orientations Nothing will happen....the western capitalists will always step in to help.
Argentinians are not leaving their countries as refugees......but Venezuelans were because of socialist posture of the government
As socialist leaning as buhari was he didnt do anything extremely Socialist in nature and as such didnt incur the wrath of western capitalists

What the Bleep is wrong with Nigerians sef. U japa or not japa, if u re not productive, u will remain useless nd poor for life no matter ur location. Even in the US, UK,, Canada e.t.c. We have many jobless, poor and homeless people there. Why always painting ur country black in every given opportunity? U free to japa or stay but jst shut d Bleep up. Nobody is forcing u to leave or stay. Allow to that choose to stay have peace.

Recipe for bondage forever!

Rolings:


You surely dont know how RICH this country is....it only needs someone to unlock the riches....
As long as we still maintain our Capitalist orientations Nothing will happen....the western capitalists will always step in to help.
Argentinians are not leaving their countries as refugees......but Venezuelans were because of socialist posture of the government
As socialist leaning as buhari was he didnt do anything extremely Socialist in nature and as such didnt incur the wrath of western capitalists

laiperi:
Recipe for bondage forever!

Thats why all western countries are in bondage to the extent that its attracting the japa crew.

Its that bondage that gave the west the infrastructures thats attracting the japa crew.

Wouldn't you rather be in bondage and get development than not be in bondage and have milliions of starving citizens and decayed infrastructures littering the whole landscape

O ga o!

It is tall o!

ahiboilandgas:
be calming down we dey holiday! My advice is based on what am seening here. Japarian can't even enjoy they are always working 2 to 3 jobs.

STFU it's none of your business..... Those who can travel should and it's none of your dyummm bizness

Realteeyee123:
I think people who say people shouldn’t japa are wicked and evil. A lot of them have either gone, can’t go or are very comfortable in Nigeria and don’t want the progress of others.

Leaving Nigeria legally with a good plan is the best decision one can make.

its not in the long run.

In western world the system is designed against men. Especially black men who is on the bottom of the totem pole

The free things u get if there is any free thng. If you buy a house and pay it off after 20 years . They can still take the house away for u for tax lien.

A person spent 20 years to pay off a house. Government said he has to pay 10000$ tax every year. this is after his retirement.

One day his wife can decide to divorce him and legally she can take over ownership of the house or half off the money in this account even if she didnt work one day.

This is just one i can go one and one

ednut1:
be wise noni

thank you

ednut1:
The hypocrisy stinks

I am surprised that OP an ethnical bigot is in support for Jakpa.

tensazangetsu20:


You need to see how this Christmas dull. Before wey from November they dey start dey throw knockout na only on 25th and e no even bang sef. Nobody even share food nothing. Fuel scarcity come dey, light too no come dey lol. Even igbos no travel like that. 2 years back enter ladipo everywhere go dry. Went there like 3 days back and all the shops were filled to the brim. Very weird

I shared food, it’s a lie

This is not a very smart way to look at things.

quickly:


its not in the long run.

In western world the system is designed against men. Especially black men who is on the bottom of the totem pole

None of this is true. The system is designed to protect the weak. Nigerian men are used to a culture that permits abuse. It's always a shock to the system moving to a society that gives the weaker spouse the power to stand up to your abuse. Black men are no more at the bottom of the totem pole in the West compared to Nigeria.

quickly:

The free things u get if there is any free thng. If you buy a house and pay it off after 20 years . They can still take the house away for u for tax lien.

The idea that you get anything for free in the West is a misnomer. Nothing is free.

Paying a house off after 20 years makes sense. It's why westerners don't feel the pressure to steal government money... since they can easily own a home while making payments commensurate with what they honestly earn. The average Nigerian family can never buy a house just on their salary alone. Your house can be taken away if you fail to pay your tax... that is a good thing as it keeps everyone honest. Your comparison is to a Nigeria where there are no consequences for failing to pay your tax. That's why the country is a hell hole.

quickly:

A person spent 20 years to pay off a house. Government said he has to pay 10000$ tax every year. this is after his retirement.

As against Nigeria where you can decide not to pay tax and no one does anything? As i said, the western adherence to the rule of law is why you're dying to get visas to come here.

quickly:

One day his wife can decide to divorce him and legally she can take over half off the money in this account even if she didnt work one day.

She worked every day, taking care of your kids and home. That isn't free.

Realteeyee123:
This might sound funny but all the while in Nigeria I underestimated Aboniki balm but Canada made me know the value of Aboniki. @ednut 1 , do you use Aboniki

we dey together

Itsrm:


Don't know why I find this thing distasteful

Are they complaining to you or asking you for money to raise the children?

They are honestly

wethebest:
What the Bleep is wrong with Nigerians sef. U japa or not japa, if u re not productive, u will remain useless nd poor for life no matter ur location. Even in the US, UK,, Canada e.t.c. We have many jobless, poor and homeless people there. Why always painting ur country black in every given opportunity? U free to japa or stay but jst shut d Bleep up. Nobody is forcing u to leave or stay. Allow to that choose to stay have peace.

That part of your post in emphasis (emphasis mine) is the key that people need to unlock their productivity.

There are benefits and disadvantages associated with most stuffs and same is applicable to 'japaing' or 'not japaing'.

Some people who make their money from remote jobs earning forex may not be keen to 'japa' because it is beautiful to earn in $ dollars and spend in Naira.

Some others have thriving businesses that have grown big enough so much so that going start all over abroad may not make much sense to them. For example, there are people who send their kids money from Nigeria to America or UK for upkeeps. At least, I had a boss who did that until the son graduated and I know of a few people who still do that.

For some other people, the idea of moving to a much more functional society makes sense to them.

The motivating factors for individuals differ. Individuals should figure out what works for them.

But like you said, people should learn to be productive wherever they are: whether home or abroad.

You will find many people on this forum wasting their time posting scores of nonsense posts daily, when they could have figured out how to be more useful to themselves and their society.

So when folks spend all day on different social media fora discussing what nots, how are they suppose to make money? Well, except if they spend that time for content creation or any other online money making venture then it may make some sense.

ahiboilandgas:
the canadian Audio Auditor that supposed to be using his time to generate the most need USD is busy online in travel section from Morning to Night doing unpaid work ! Who does that in Europe or North America! .....edut the Audio Auditor trekking up and down . ANY BODY DOING WELL ABROAD will not be on Nairaland travel section from Morning still Night debating about JAPA .he will be in Business section or property section !They are mostly travel agents that are looking for more preys ! FACTS.

I am pretty sure you posted here some years ago about your wife and kids moving to Scotland and then you mentioned that you were considering joining them or shuttling. You also wrote that you sponsored your brother for his masters in Ireland on the Ireland visa thread.

Maysdevices:
I shared food, it’s a lie

I 4 like be your neighbor rich kid.

ibkayee:

Poverty capital of the world, insecurity, food prices skyrocketing, professionals leaving in droves, Naira collapse, inflation, economy in shambles. Doubt it

But Peter Obi is going to fix all that, isn’t he?

GEJ was a fantastic and loving President I think Northerners always use religion and threatening to get their way

lf u want to travel pls do. ls yr life but stop making a big deal of it. Even if Nigeria becomes paradise tommorow Nigerians will still travel. Americans , people in other top European countries travel alot. some DNT want to return because dey v made their fortune there. ls a personal choice. Becos uv travel or over deos nt make u a better person Dan people over here. Dats inferiority n colonial mentality. Thousands of Nigerians r better Dan people over there. l v travel out alot.

You think everybody wants to, and should japa? You need to borrow sense.

ednut1:
apparently later went there but is back to Nigeria hence his bitterness:

Most times, the people against migration are those who are frustrated or couldn't get their Visa on multiple trials

And I don't see why people will discourage others from pursuing their goals

What I do tell myself, no risk no pay,if you fail,keep trying and keep praying,one day e go soft

E dey hard be4 someone can make me stop or change my mind

IyaTola:
Is this you? You look malnourished even af the whole oil business you have.

how does he look malnourished? Must he be fat like you? Does overweight look cool?

ednut1=Ahiboilandgas=ethnic jingoist.

ibkayee:

Ok ooo Mufasa

Lol it means I hold agnostic views about a lot of things to do with spirituality and the meta physical but I still somehow believe in a greater power. I’m basically all over the place

hehe you no well oooo

sukkot:
it is ignorance making people live below the poverty line. the same ignorance that pushes a poor man to marry and have children. like bro you are poor why are you having children ? whats the thinking process here ?

you want to deny people happiness so being poor means one should die or what... Some of you are useless sadists

IyaTola:
Is this you? You look malnourished even af the whole oil business you have.

eyya after a whole lot of bullying and psychological tuoturing by oyinbo kids ! I can understand . how many monkeys have been called since you started ? You better hustle and join BIS lekki or day water college or America international school abuja as a principal where you will earn 10m per annum with respect , peace and prestige ! Than teaching some silly oyinbo kids that will keep laughing and harassing your Yoruba accent hegg for eggs ! So learn dodging skills to fight off knife stabs cos most teachers in oyinbo land and under constant risk of be stab or shot for simple thing like pronouncing eggs as heggs .

Rolings:


You surely dont know how RICH this country is....it only needs someone to unlock the riches....
As long as we still maintain our Capitalist orientations Nothing will happen....the western capitalists will always step in to help.
Argentinians are not leaving their countries as refugees......but Venezuelans were because of socialist posture of the government
As socialist leaning as buhari was he didnt do anything extremely Socialist in nature and as such didnt incur the wrath of western capitalists

Buhari is a socialist?
Really?

OGHENAOGIE:
you want to deny people happiness so being poor means one should die or what... Some of you are useless sadists

iff you are poor your priority is not children. try to work your way out of poverty.

sukkot:
iff you are poor your priority is not children. try to work your way out of poverty.

it's not your business to tell people how to live their lives... There ll always be poor people no matter how well structured a society is...

Saverin:
Nigerians still don't get it. Our debt servicing to revenue ratio is projected at 123%. What this means is for every 100N FG makes, 100N goes into debt servicing (not repaying debt oh) and additional N23 is borrowed to meet debt obligations.

Nigeria has not built any foundation to recover from an economic doom/meltdown. The nation is at brink right now. Leave quietly or leave as a refugee (if Jagaban wins for sure)

Gerrard59:

The antagonism should stop. Let people do what they believe is good for them. As I have written elsewhere, there are very few Nigerian elites living in Nigeria who did not study or work abroad.

What I am expecting would be the deluge of enquiries on japa in this section once Emi Lokan wins next year.

Hehe, na so u guys hate Tinubu that much? What is the basis for this fear you are trying to create? Has Tinubu ever proven himself to be a bad manager of resources? If anything, he's the best manager of resources we have got for now

OGHENAOGIE:
it's not your business to tell people how to live their lives... There ll always be poor people no matter how well structured a society is...

well make sure you dont go and hire your children out to be servant because you cant take care of them