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| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Kobojunkie: 8:56pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
eyinjuege:1. But there are equally folks out there in the world who drink and smoke well into their 90s and 100s. These things are not to blame. ![]() 2. Ignorance and of course arrogance is always never the right way to go about living. ![]() 3. Stress is definitely at the top of the list where Nigerians are concerned. If you ask me, I think it is the major reason the mortality age remains as low as it is even to this day. The average Nigerian lives a severely stressed existence. ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by nwajesus12(m): 9:02pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
Bmaster:every 21 days means ones in a calendar month ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by paix(m): 9:44pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
oz4real83:The men are unnecessarily adding the pressure on themselves. Whatever you're doing, make sure you don't over burden yourself with unnecessary pressure from other people. Worrying and inconveniencing yourself up and down. Provide for your family; what you have, give them, what you don't have tell them I DON'T HAVE. I assure you, they won't die. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Kobojunkie: 12:09am On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 4:21am On Jan 23, 2023 |
oz4real83:1. Did anyone hold a gun to the heads of these men to force them into hypogamous unions that supposedly put them under these pressures your speak of?🙄🙄 ![]() 2. In the world we live in today, there are plenty of examples of men and women sharing responsibilities equally in marriage, so these men who — mostly for the sake of their inflamed egos — choose to put themselves under pressure are to blame for their predicament. Whose fault is it when a human being out of complete disregard for his life chooses to live under conditions that almost assure his early demise? We need to stop asserting that such fools deserve our pity abeg!🙄🙄 ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 12:58am On Jan 23, 2023 |
InvertedHammer:Was just being sarcastic. Unfortunately, I may not qualify since I am quite content with my life and can never be on any man's payroll as a wife or concubine. I really prefer a career and enjoy the fruits of my own labor. . . .like all 'modern women' who have absolutely no business with 'archaic men'! I believe in a partnership. . . . in or out of marriage. If my husband is stressed, I do everything possible to alleviate his concerns. I usually expect the same from him. If people work together and avoid unnecessary distractions. . . . individuals in any relationship. . . .men or women should have a fair chance at longevity even with the odds against men. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by eyinjuege: 1:05am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Regarding the first point, smoking is a documented risk factor for heart attacks, strokes, cancers, hypertension, lung diseases etc There is a reason cigarettes are the only products (I know of) that gives a direct disclaimer that it's consumers are liable to die young No hiding anything, but direct talking. So, because some smoke till old age and get away with coming down with any of these diseases doesn't take away the fact that cigarettes are toxin filled and 'dangellous' Alcohol in excess is also linked with oral cancers, heart attacks, strokes, liver problems, stomach ulcers and bleeding. I'm not even sure which poison is worse between cigarettes and EXCESSIVE alcohol intake. Excessive is more than a bottle and half of wine / more than 4-5 glasses of wine a whole week spread over 3 days 2nd point, I agree arrogance plays a part in the poor health seeking behaviour of men sometimes. Not so sure about the ignorance because women raised in same environment know to seek help. Some just refuse to take responsibility for their own health and expecting to be babied by their spouses. Last point, concerning mortality in Nigerian adults, I believe heart attacks, strokes are still the top causes followed by accidents/injuries/trauma, cancers. If further traced, they have risk factors like OBESITY, excess alcohol, smoking, family history, not going for regular medicals for BP, diabetes check. Infact, I forgot to mention OBESITY earlier as a major cause of death now. People will say it's a sign of good living It's also linked with a lot of cancers, so equally as dangerous as cigarettes and alcohol. So chronic stress on it's own without other more prominent risk factors is not as common as a cause of dying young. Stress in itself is pretty much life- emotional stress, work stress, relationship stress, environmental stress/where you live etc. We all go through stress, whether Nigerian or any other nationality. The difference again may be that other places have a better health system in place to pick up disease quickly, and also to offer top treatment. If you have a stroke abroad, you will likely survive it than in Nigeria- rapid response ambulances, treatment centers already expecting you etc. Nigerian health care system is thrash, so any surprise the life expectancy is low? |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by InvertedHammer: 2:16am On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:/ If you are looking for partnership, go and start a business. Partnership is the reason many couples are stuck in divorce courts waiting for the judge to dissolve the limited liability company called marriage. You need someone with leadership qualities whose ideas can compliment yours based on mutual respect. By the way, na so una mouth dey sweet before marriage. Talk is cheap. Once the man tie the knot, you go carry all your life frustrations heap on his head. Patapata 15 years he gives up and join his ancestors. / |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 2:58am On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 11:00am On Jan 23, 2023 |
InvertedHammer:. . . .And you do not think marriage is a 'business' venture? ![]() Please, get married first, stay married for at least 10 years. . . then come back and ask Ireti and Patrick Doyle why they divorced after 20 years. Please. . . stick to the topic and stop derailing the thread with your local and archaic sentiments. Look at who is posting about women and life's frustrations. Even with all the 'machismo' una dey form, una still dey quench upandan. . . . cannot even handle common women frutrations. Only to dey count how many 'drops' of wotowoto 'akamu' una fit release to dey knack chest. Abeg help us find solutions to keep you dudes from dying prematuredly and stop typing rubbish from thread to thread. Women cannot be the cause of the statistically low mortality rate of menfolk globally. THE REASON WOMEN WILL KEEP OUTLIVING MEN? . . . .THEY HAVE DEVELOPED BETTER COPING MECHANISIMS TO HANDLE LIFE FRUSTRATIONS. You learn to do the same by taking a few lessons. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Kobojunkie: 4:30am On Jan 23, 2023 |
eyinjuege:1. Of course smoking is bad for your health and all but what is keeping the mortality age in Nigeria at such low levels ain't smoking at all. So let's not even bring it up here as we smoking in Nigeria, and smoking deaths, are at a level of great concern. It ain't so let's not drag it into this yet. Same with alcohol. ![]() 2. You just described ignorance and nonchalance. ![]() 3. You are busy linking but where are the numbers to show that any of what you have listed so far is to blame for the continued low mortality age that plagues Nigerians, particularly in Nigeria? ![]() 4. In my opininon, stress is the number one killer when poverty is to be considered. ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by InvertedHammer: 5:10am On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:/ I hope you know that the statistics said "on average". So don't toot your horn. Not all women are outliving men. Ireti divorced her husband? Watch the glow on Patrick going forward. He should go and do Thanksgiving in the nearest church. / |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by kkins25(m): 7:40am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:That argument falls on biological basis and at the societal level. Because, women, who are the gate keepers, choose men of higher status than themselves. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by sharone21(f): 9:51am On Jan 23, 2023 |
The 'illegal' stresses men give themselves eg cheating, womanizing, keeping unnecessary secrets,gambling etc apart from what could actually stress them: village people due to envy, politics, lifestylechoices: drinking, smoking etc The woman carries pregnancy for 9 months and pushes out baby ALONE..... Does house chores, some will even fetch water ( pregnant/ not) in homes where they have wells while their able bodied men are alive, do home work/ breast feed/ cook almost at same time, chase higher degrees like men, chase money..... And the only thing men can do to show they are REAL MEN which is looking for money, they still beg for support from women... They turn cry babies and say: they need support from women.....looking for money is not for only one person( I wonder the day men will help women carry pregnancy and push out babies)..... Men will not die of stress chasing money( lol.... Thing wen women dey do and not crying, just that when married at least there should be VALUE added to a woman's life by her King.... Women may talk to their men inside the house so they live up to expectations but women try not to spread this outside to preserve the dignity of their 'ogas'.... I think the men are physically stronger but women have inner strength and resilience besides from birth women have been going through PAINS and thus are stronger... Pains like: ear piercing, making their hair, seeing their period, carrying pregnancy, pushing out babies unlike men that the major pain they had was circumcision which some girls also do. Anyway, I thank God that despite being tagged the weaker gender and ladened with more work especially in Africa, women still live longer. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by casualobserver: 10:20am On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:This is the problem with narcissistic modern women like you. You give but you can’t take….again another reason men run away from women like you. By the time a man gets to a certain age he can smell problem women a mile off. Who came on Nairaland talking about themselves? You made your “personal” business a public matter? If you do t want your personal business to be an issue then STFU about your personal business. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 11:07am On Jan 23, 2023 |
casualobserver:Like I stated earlier, this is not my personal story. I am using an article to discuss some of my observations and express my viewpoint. Please, contribute respectfully and meaningfully. Most Nairalanders I have interacted with over the years know I have been off the marriage market for over 20 years. . . . I am an expert authority of marriage and have many years under my belt to discuss ALL FAMILY TOPICS. please, stick to your generational gap move to your next target! |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 11:13am On Jan 23, 2023 |
InvertedHammer:I am tooting with horn. . . .? Did I write the article? ![]() Some of you really have some 'basic comprehension' problems. Please, read the article and stick to the subject matter. I don't care if Patrick Doyle is glowing or Ireti Doyle is wilting away. This is not a personal matter. . . .my viewpoint. Epress yours and move on! |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Tycyborg(m): 11:41am On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:Women don't raise a child single handedly... Husband and wife raised them together with each one of them doing the duty... Are you now telling me men always abado their children to just focus on work only? I don't get your point... You make it seems like men are nothing... Even after a lady dlivers I have seen couples that take turns to make the baby sleep at night not one not two not even ten that do that... So should we say the men abandon their children? |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by AwesomeDuru(m): 11:43am On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:This has to be Kobojunk.ie Guys note and avoid this moniker. She's very argumentative and it doesn't end. She argues even when she's not supposed to. Take note everyone. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by casualobserver: 11:48am On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 12:05pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:Only an unwise man argues with a woman, talk less a woman like you. Read your post again it’s all about you you you! Your entire post is about your personal business. You made your personal business a public matter….No one gives a sh1t. No wonder nobody marry you!!! Expert ko, expert ni! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know, you are either never married or you are divorced because no man will put up with you and your nonsense man’s be happy. Men want peace!! Argue with your keyboard!!! To young women reading this don’t take relationship or marriage advise from women who themselves can’t find or can’t keep a husband. If you want relationship advise seek it from those who have visible marriages you admire not faceless bitter old spinsters on the internet. Someone who doesn’t t know what it takes to find a man, to keep a man, to maintain a household, to raise children, to raise a happy home and marriage is not a mentor!!! All they will do is lead you to where they are old lonely bitter and unwanted. This woman is clearly old, read her post below in her own words…she is alone, she clearly could not get a man to marry or could not keep her marriage together!!! This is not the sort you take advice from!!! KanwuliaExtra: |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 11:50am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Tycyborg:I did not imply the above in any way. Child rearing is mainly the responsibility of a woman. The reason we have many single families headed by women(married or unmarried). Even if men participate in raising children, most can only be there for brief periods. They are mostly out of the homes making a living or other families! FACT! |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 12:05pm On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 12:22pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
casualobserver:I know you are still 'smarting' from our previous exchanges on the other thread. ![]() States a classic misogynist who goes around NL attacking women. I started this thread for intellectual discourse. . . not personal banter. Be productive and give us something meaningful to read on NL. Unlike the nonsense you keep spewing all over NL. For example. . . . https://www.nairaland.com/7535872/spiritual-reasons-solutions-delay-marriage/2#120280890 casualobserver:My reply to you? KanwuliaExtra:Going personal will only get you whooped. I don't indulge 'archaic-minded' men or women. . . .on or off NL. Please, this is my thread. . . .if you don't like it. . . .get off! |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 12:23pm On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 6:56pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
AwesomeDuru:Kobojunkie ko. . . .Please, learn to be productive and less anxious with your 'frustrated Lagos life'. Retire to your village and farm for some deep-healing, journey-therapy! As for you. . . . All your useless threads on NL were deleted BY YOU out of SHAME. You nor even get motor to drive go work? After jumping from molue to molue doing 'agbero' jobs" from one Lagos-"VI"- slum to another "Iyanoba" ghettoid 'dog-out' of a slum-dwelling. . . .how won't your brain be fried? Why don't you live and work in "VI" or your 'Iyanoba-slum-dwelling" to save NL your rabid attacks? ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/awesomeduru You history on NL is legendary. You even attacked a woman on a bus with your pre-prostate malignancy frustrations. ![]() Your anger with BURAHI frustrating YOUR LIFE. . .WITH POVERTY AND UNEMPLOYMENT, you decided to lash out at a woman on a bus. Is not evidence of your disturbed mind? The same level of 'BUHARI-INDUCED FRUSTRATIONS' is what you are using to harass me on this thread. Somebody saved your sick post. . . .I read the replies to your offensive write-up you deleted out of shame. They discribed you perfectly Here goes: https://www.nairaland.com/4491527//2 AwesomeDuru:If it were a 'man' like you, would you have had the balls to confront her? ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by quickly: 1:53pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:Read to understand and not to respond my friend. Obviously u are not well versed in what is going on inthe world. In world war 2 and after millions of men died U have heard of Boko Haram, is that not a war. Do you know how many casualties on both sides , majority been men. underline majority What of Sierra Leone, Liberia Israel-Palestine crisis Yemeni Civil War Libyan War Iraq War War on Terrorism War in Afghanistan The price men have to pay to be the head - thats y they dont sleep like women with no care in the world |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Kobojunkie: 2:25pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
kkins25:Really? So women are to blame when Nigerian men date women of the same economic status but abandon said women only to marry women of lower economic status in order to sit as gods in marriage? ![]() Women are to blame when Nigerian men married to women who are economically dependent chase after and even go as far as to destroy their unions for the sake of others who are lower on the economic totem pole? ![]() Women who are able to carry their weight financially are not fit on this biologic basis, abi? ![]() Not to forget, the many Nigerian men out there who are in partnership relationship as opposed to master-slave unions that many Nigerian men seem to desire more are themselves not men? ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Fearyourcreator: 3:04pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:Continue... |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by Fearyourcreator: 3:05pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
oz4real83:You dey mind am |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by drnoel: 3:22pm On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 5:39pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:Apart of the fact that women are the stronger specie. You can't imagine what men have to go through to meet ends. Men work like donkeys and have to go home to please their wives and continue the next day. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 3:51pm On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 4:16pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
drnoel:Thanks for your input. If men have to work like donkeys, something is inherently wrong with that relationship. Is the partner handicap? ![]() I know a lot of men who are able to partner with their significant others for a healthy work-life balance. The reason I do not subscribe to a one-income/one-bread-winner family. Most who adopt this kind of economic planning with one stay-at-home parent actually make men the ONLY BREAD-WINNER IN THE HOME. Women will say they are 'home-makers' working at home without income. What will happen to that ONE SOLE BREAD-WINNER if he or she is met with sudden unemployment or health challanges preventing continuation of employment? How will the pressure not be too much on ONE PERSON(MAN OR WOMAN)? If I were to be the sole breadwinner going to work knowing my WHOLE family depends on me to thrive. . . . I would be worried day and night! When men claim to be breadwinners/heads of households and suggest their wives DO NOT WORK, what are they thinking? We have to learn to work together to achieve a healthy work-life balance. Men do not complain or nag. . . women do. Because women nag, they have outlets to vent out frustrations and can re-charge. Men bottle everything up and end up becoming less productive on the long run. WHY SHOULD A MAN TAKE ON THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING A BREAD-WINNER IN HOME? That will only work on a short term basis. If a man continues that on the long run, he risks dropping dead within 10 of retirement, if he ever gets to retire. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 4:29pm On Jan 23, 2023*. Modified: 4:55pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
quickly:Let me educate you a tad. . . .Women also fight in wars. . . as combat aides or support aides. I have famales in my family who are military medical personnel. You need to understand that the rate at which men loose their lives in wars. . . or unnecessary ethnic/religious crises pales in comparisons to the rate at which women die in Africa EVERY YEAR during childbirth. I have done my research. . . you do the same. For every reason you 'CLAIM' that men are endangered. . . .women are twice as endangered DURING CHILDBIRTH AND SITUATIONS WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE in the hands of men all over Africa. Yes, women also kill their husbands in violent disputes, but not at the disproportional rate men kill women. Women also have their own MAJOR BATTTLES WITH MATERNAL-INFANT DEATH RATES IN AFRICA. There are different battle fields in life. WOMEN HAVE THEIRS. Men are not special when it comes to risk-exposures in life. IS THIS NOT A BATTLEFIELD FOR WOMEN? Pregnancy exposes women to A LOT OF HEALTH RISKS!Do you realize that the major cause of HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND DIABETES IN WOMEN IS PREGNANCY? https://www.afro.who.int/health-topics/maternal-health KEY FACTSDo 830 MEN die on the battle field EVERY DAY? ![]() Please, state your next point. I finally understand that women are the more endangered. . . .they are rewaded with longevity out of DIVINE PROVIDENCE AND MERCY! |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by drnoel: 5:45pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:What you say is true but you are looking at it in line of the Nigerian setting, where you have family around and can employ a house help or a cleaning person. Speak to Nigerians in diaspora and you will understand another point of view. For most families as long as the children are still young someone may have to either work shorter hours or stay at home |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by drnoel: 5:46pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
KanwuliaExtra:To add to what I wrote earlier. All my friends and acquaintances in diaspora are sole bread winners. No due to their wishes but cos of the situation I mentioned earlier |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by descarado: 5:59pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
Ifyz0001:His choice to order uber. Nobody forced him. Maybe cos of expectation( sex), he forgot to use his brain. Idiocy. |
| Re: Why Are Women Outliving Men? by KanwuliaExtra(op): 6:31pm On Jan 23, 2023 |
drnoel:Understood. I have one family member whose wife has abandoned him because he is 'stressed' from working. He stays on the internet arguing on social media platforms till he was fired from his job for 'online tradiing and gambling'! Now, he has high blood pressure and has moved in with another family member. The wife and children have relocated farrrrrrrr away from him to avoid further conflicts. The only son has copied his father's habits and sleeps online too, instead of obeying house rules concerning social media addiction. Father addict. . . Son addict. . . I don't know ANY FAMILY HERE IN THE DIASPORA WITH ONE FAMILY INCOME. Or the father as a sole bread winner. The men will NOT EVEN ALLOW IT. . . unless they are dealing with 'newly imported spouses' or spouses with academic or medical challenges. I DO NOT KNOW ONENIGERIAN MAN AROUND ME THAT IS A BREAD-WINNER. You cannot make it as an individual or as a family with ONE INCOME. It is NOT POSSIBLE IN THE DIASPORA. . . .It is even the wives that are mostly the bread-winners. Most of our NIGERIAN MEN have lost the zeal to maintain meaningful employment and really give up easily because of their love for 'get rich or die tryng' fraudulent mentalities! |
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