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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Dwightventures(m): 4:17pm On Feb 26, 2023

SmartPolician:
I am afraid I don't agree with him. Leadership is everything. Bad people commit crimes for leaders because they know that evil leaders will protect them.

When you see leaders doing the right thing, the followers will align at once. They don't have a choice; this is no rocket science.

You are dull, and I'm sure you're doing the wrong thing in your personal life so that it us easy to pass the blame on "leaders". I'm not joining issues with your type. I only wish I could escape this cesspit your and your type created

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Bluntemperor: 4:25pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.
Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.
Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.
Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.
Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

Your name na Mr Frank.Good observations!
There is this wrong notions, that Yoruba is against Ibo! NO!
Why is it that both Yorubas and Ibos love to do business together -more than anybody or other Tribes and why is it that when it comes to Politics that Divide And Rule now comes to our minds !
If Obi wins anywhere in Lagos,is because those Youths + Elderly are eager to effect the Change in that Areas,not because Ibo-tribe are more there!
Know that today and know Peace!
But can we say of same Voting patterns in the Eastern States -to any Yoruba Candidates!
Your guess is as good as mine!
We must both confront the enemies of Nigeria squarely, afterall,our Youths and Elderly -goes to the same Markets and feel the Inflation together!
God bless Nigeria!

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Babysho(m): 4:31pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

You don’t sound normal bro. In 2023, you’re not updating your mental capacity. Tinubu is a slave master. They don’t have to put physical chains on you anymore to be enslaved. A slave master will kill slaves and blame the victims like Lekki toll gate. A slave master will give crumbs to the slaves and take most for himself like his benefits after leaving office. Slave masters will have slaves toiling for hours how we sit in Lagos traffic like sardines for hours. There are so many patterns and you need to read books to see them. Pick up a book black slave, you making us look stupid out here.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by BinamRex: 4:37pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

Why did you assume Tinubu is the slave master he was alluding to? There are more than 3 presidential candidates.

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by kelvine(m): 4:40pm On Feb 26, 2023

Please advice, which of the candidates best fits his description?

BinamRex:
Why did you assume Tinubu is the slave master he was alluding to? There are more than 3 presidential candidates.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 4:42pm On Feb 26, 2023

spiralwedge:
Politically, the SE is irrelevant to me. And they haven’t proved me wrong over 4 decades.

I can have dealings on other sphere of life, but politically they are still in 1800s.

They are politically in the 1800s, yet they have more human developmental index than your region will ever have in a millennium.

What is the use of your political wisdom if you can't differentiate between a crook and a better candidate?

What is the aim of politics?
To have a region as economically and socially backward as the North?
A region with an absymally decrepit human developmental index in all areas.

The whole world is going one way, but you think you guys in the backward desert are smarter than the rest of the world.?
This election was clear even to a 2yr old baby.

You think your religious and ethnic politics will help you?
You have voted against your own interests, but you don't know yet.

Or maybe in a corner of your mind, you know.

We will be here to see it.

And we will laugh.

Just pray tinubu performs.

Lord knows, I will laugh a lot of people to scorn.

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 4:46pm On Feb 26, 2023

The next four years would be a period of laughter for me.

I have no emotion to give, no loyalty to any Politician or govt, and no concern.

Just sit down look mode and pure cruise.

Let us see the foolishness of people in pure display.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 4:49pm On Feb 26, 2023

The whole World has analysed the candidates and pick the best chance for a proper reform that will benefit the vast majority.

But one Ali in jigawa that knows nothing beyond quaranic writing thinks he is more politically aware than the rest of us.?

It's okay.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 4:51pm On Feb 26, 2023

God will punish anybody that will tell us not to laugh, or to support a useless govt.

Na God punish that una mouth.

We are here to watch a movie with our popcorn.

A 4yrs long movie.

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by walebliss(m): 4:56pm On Feb 26, 2023

Too late

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Brownshoe: 5:04pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by onuman: 5:08pm On Feb 26, 2023

onthehill:
Nigerian relationship coach and counsellor, Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo has said that Nigeria's problem is bad citizens and not bad government, IGBERETV reports.

He said this following his observation of Nigeria's presidential election held on February 25, 2023.

He wrote on his Twitter handle;

https://twitter.com/kingsleypst/status/1629748721280770048?s=20[/quote]From police to thugs to slaves struggling for their slave masters in PDAPC to continue to rule them, if their desire comes to fruition, they will be crying shortly after.
After all, they are still wailing over their choice in 2015.

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by millionboi2: 5:10pm On Feb 26, 2023

Tinubuwins2023e:
The igbo pastor can keep on crying.

mumu,tribalism will kill you idiot,the Igbo pastor, you are a slowpoke... useless pig: what will kill you is this your tribalistic mentality cow

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by blueAgent(m): 5:12pm On Feb 26, 2023

Boyooosa:
Lamentation Chapter 20 vs 23-27

So, if u exonerate government, who controls inec and police?

Had it been ur candidate knows how to manage an opportunity, given to him on a platter of gold, by the youths and fair old Nigerians, he wouldn't have fallen like a pawpaw tree like this...

Go and listen to Tinubu's speech again, where he said...I know that it is not for only one person to emerge as a leader of over 200 million people, I'm prepared for both victory and loss

Obi was only prepared for the WINNING because of the voice of crowd he hearing, he was not listening to, paying attention to the voice of the PEOPLE cautioning him against LOSING.

U were so carried away that u did not see other candidates of your party as your strength and your live wite....no matter how unpopular they are, you should rub the undeserving grace Nigerian youth dominated masses rubbed on you. Learn how to share from grace next time because if u don't pass through this, u'll assume that the grace was sufficient for u.

It was all about you and your dream

Not that you were spectacular in leadership, politics or brilliance but grace covered all your weaknesses.

Nigerians have tried for you, to have competed head on in Lagos with it's landlord and key parts of your domain, you save that for a younger one you will use your hand to build politicslly

Sighs useless senseless writeup.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by blueAgent(m): 5:14pm On Feb 26, 2023

BinamRex:
Why did you assume Tinubu is the slave master he was alluding to? There are more than 3 presidential candidates.

Their conscience the flog them.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by onuman: 5:14pm On Feb 26, 2023

Tinubuwins2023e:
The igbo pastor can keep on crying.

Igbos warned you in 2015.
Within 8 years down - to 2013, Nigeria went down to becoming a country harboring the largest number of poor and hungry people, as well as one of the most terrorised countries on earth. You still continue with having your way.
Cashing out on crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger Delta to develop your region, that's all that has been leading you lot to choose least qualified presidential candidates, this time, one suffering dementia to rule Nigeria.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by blueAgent(m): 5:17pm On Feb 26, 2023

lokoloko84:
Thank you, bro. The solution to the madness going on is to restructure the country with full resource control either at the states or regional levels or at most separation.
Everything else is just semantics.

100% true

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Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 5:32pm On Feb 26, 2023

millionboi2:
mumu,tribalism will kill you idiot,the Igbo pastor, you are a slowpoke... useless pig: what will kill you is this your tribalistic mentality cow

No need to follow am drag anything.

Buhari is going to leave major economic mess for the next govt to clean-up.

Make tinubu start his bulaba policies of printing naira like he said.

The inflation that will come will make the devil himself pity Nigerians.

I will be here for it. grin

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by KosiGee(m): 5:34pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

I read the post many times trying to find out where he mentioned Tinubu.

What are you on about? How did you end up linking Tinubu to what he said?

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by SaLongs1(m): 5:40pm On Feb 26, 2023

What has been hidden from the Pastor or him deliberately ignoring the voice is that ' Religion ' is Nigeria in particular and Africa in general s problem because we are too superstitious to have sense. People are praying instead of doing.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Nobodysboo(m): 5:42pm On Feb 26, 2023

Speak loud

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by drealcivilceno(m): 5:48pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

Quoted

And his goons will be the one to chop Nigerian

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by spiralwedge(m): 5:48pm On Feb 26, 2023

CSTRR:
They are politically in the 1800s, yet they have more human developmental index than your region will ever have in a millennium.

What is the use of your political wisdom if you can't differentiate between a crook and a better candidate?

What is the aim of politics?
To have a region as economically and socially backward as the North?
A region with an absymally decrepit human developmental index in all areas.

The whole world is going one way, but you think you guys in the backward desert are smarter than the rest of the world.?
This election was clear even to a 2yr old baby.

You think your religious and ethnic politics will help you?
You have voted against your own interests, but you don't know yet.

Or maybe in a corner of your mind, you know.

We will be here to see it.

And we will laugh.

Just pray tinubu performs.

Lord knows, I will laugh a lot of people to scorn.

This long emotional outburst aptly buttressed my point. Absolutely irrelevant to my day-to-day and not well thought out. No respect for other people’s choices and oozes of stvpid superiority complex. Our way or no way. Nahhh, your emotional politics in the SE is inconsequential to grand scheme of things in this nation.
Oya, move along.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by EduBrazil1991(m): 5:56pm On Feb 26, 2023

kelvine:
I disagree with you here.
You can't say we are voting our slave masters, we choose who we want and it can't be same because we are too many to choose the same person.

Nope Tinubu was never a slave master.
We have never voted Tinubu himself as president.

Most prosperous pastors have their church headquarters in Lagos and they have never been enslaved for one day. What we enjoy in Lagos is luxury in other places.

Tinubu is liberal, welcoming and progressive. He is also capable of giving Nigeria a different outlook.

Yes he is in APC under Buhari but this Government will be different. Quote me in 4 years

You felt attacked 😭😭😭

A proud slave spotted

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by sweetjohn(m): 6:00pm On Feb 26, 2023

[quote author= post=121260741]Nigerians are the number one problems of Nigeria 🇳🇬.
God help Nigeria 🙏

Only in Naija.
Our Darling Country.......
This our country palava, no be for here.
Nigerians are the problems of Nigeria.

Nigerians are the problems of Nigeria.......for real!

Greed and Dishonesty, the two main problems of an average Nigerian.
Read along to understand our reasons for saying so......

(N.B : If you are a fraudster and criminal on Nairaland,
Skip to the next post or you may not survive reading this)

*HOME TRUTH*

I run a manufacturing business and a trading business.
The biggest challenge in my manufacturing business is not power, or infrastructure, the biggest challenge is getting honest staff. Everyone we hire appears to be on a mission to steal as much as possible. Inflated invoices, recording less than the actual number of units produced. The worst part of it all is that all the fraud we've uncovered is not done by a single person, it's usually many staff who collude with each other, from production, to sales, to finance, even top management. There was a year I overhauled management 3 times in a year.........
But me, I've found a solution sha, I now use Indian management. So competent, so honest and so straightforward. I thought they were expensive at first with all the visa fees, accommodation, house staff, but now that losses due to staff theft have been reduced to a minimum, and efficiency increased, the Indian management has turned out to be cheaper than the previous Nigerian management. Now, all sensitive positions involving money go to Indians. Nigerians are only allowed in non-sensitive positions. I used to criticize companies like Dangote Group that hire so many Indians when there are many unemployed Nigerians, but now, I understand their decision.

My biggest challenge in the trading business is the same, getting honest staff. The form of trading occurs in the open market, and involves staff having access to huge sums of money running into a few millions. I know how much I pay to security companies to provide escorts for the staff, not to prevent robbery, but to ensure that the staff go straight to the bank to deposit the money after the day's sales and not disappear with my money. This money spent on security companies is even enough to be declared as profit. We have to spend on CCTV, biometric scanners and other things that wouldn't be needed if staff weren't looking for the slightest opportunity to steal.

It got so bad at a point that my main criteria for employing staff was no longer competency but honesty. At least, competency and skills can be learnt, but once you're dishonest, you're dishonest.

We always complain of the economy and how there are no jobs. I know people abroad who would have loved to set up job creating businesses in Nigeria but they can't because they can't get any trustworthy person to run it.

I know people in Nigeria with so much money, they want to start factories and other job-creating businesses but they can't because they are occupied elsewhere and can't get any trustworthy person to run the business. So instead of investing in the real sector and creating jobs, they'll just buy treasury bills, while the thieves are shouting no jobs.

Many big businesses would have been born in Nigeria if we could engage in partnerships, but we cant because you can't trust anyone. This is one advantage the Indians and Lebanese have over us in Nigeria. They can pull resources together and do mega-business, unlike Nigerians that because only one person must do everything since we can't partner, end up with small, tiny businesses.

Start a poultry and they will be stealing your eggs. Some will even go ahead to be killing the chickens so that they'll be allowed to take them home.

Start an entertainment/viewing/game center and they'll be pocketing your money. On the days you're around at the business, the money realized will be x10 of the money realized when you're not around..... Because they're eating your money.

Lease out a vehicle to a driver to use and watch as he'll finish you.

Start a restaurant, the same thing will happen. More than half of the total food ingredients will end up in their personal kitchens.

Even ordinary provisions shop, they will find a way to steal.

You'll see them with that their evil, wicked saying "na where person dey work, na there e dey chop, na e make dem dey callam workchop/workshop"...... Just imagine, justifying theft at work.

And you'll see these people point their crooked fingers at politicians when they're not any different. I usually say the reason most Nigerians haven't stolen billions of government money, is simply lack of opportunity.

*On every level, Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria*.

If the truth wanna kill the online fraudsters and criminals we have on Nairaland,
you guys should better die now.
We will continue to hit your head as much as we can with the truth and be against your fraudulent lifestyle ALWAYS.
For all the scams you have scammed innocent people all over the world, and they end up committing suicide or becoming homeless, and y'all here thinking you are living large, kid you not, you will never enjoy that fraudulent money, it will lead you to your grave soonest. (You can keep hating honest, and hardworking members on this forum, but some of us will continue to kill you with the truth.)
Only if God doesn't exist.
Thieves, Barawos everywhere.

**********************************

GREED!!!

When we say we are our own problem they start grumbling.....

Okay listen to these examples:

1. You sell chicken and add over 40% profit ,you are happy forgetting that the person that bought the chicken sells tomatoes and pepper.

2. The tomatoes and pepper seller has to recover the excess she paid for the chicken, so she adds her own 42% profit margin.

3. Teacher will come and buy these 2 items with what? She has no other alternative than to increase lesson fees or school fees.

4. You will go and rent house from a landlord who has paid excess for cement, sand, chicken, tomatoes and pepper, lesson fees, how will he meet up if not by increasing his house rent by 60%.

And the circle continues, it is not about dollars, dollars is just an excuse, abi wetin concern garri, beans and yam with dollars.

The problem is you and I and our excessive greed.

Only a fraudster or criminal will be wailing about our above post.
We hope you ain't one of them kiddo?
If so, we understand your weeping about the honest truth.
No wonder you are your fellow children are always wailing and in serious pains reading our posts here.
The earlier, the better for you.
Advice from the elders kiss

Sure we do get the good ones among the youths.

Only sane, honest and hardworking Nairalanders like you will definitely like our answers and comments,
Not the miserable fraudsters aka, children of hate, frustrations and perdition that abound here.
God bless your legit hustle man.
It will end in praise for you.

Addendum:
The below are screenshots from a very recent party we went to grill Barbecue for one of our clients we met on Nairaland,
And the below are the amount of meats the food caterer hired for the event stole, ready to take home with her.
After telling people at the party that beef has finished!
(After being paid close to 2 Million Naira for her catering job!!)
A picture speaks more than a thousand words.
Shame on her and her online criminals here.....[/quote]You wrote long useless epistle while you are also one of the useless Nigerian always supporting our oppressors all in the name of tribalism. God will judge you illiterate

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by inoki247: 6:07pm On Feb 26, 2023

drealcivilceno:
Who do you think is the problem of Nigeria?

The house of assembly and do you think Asiwaju has the capability of fighting.

Take a cue from Buhari, and that is even the reason you all say you don't want Obi!

Na everyone go chop Las Las!

The problem about you people you always thinks everyone hates Obi who ever enters so far his not bringing anti Youth policy and his ready to reverse the one Buhari implemented also I'm good....

Once someone av different view you believe the person hates Obi we are all human beings nd aw u expect people not av a different view is the problem you guy's are having.....

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by CSTRR: 6:23pm On Feb 26, 2023

spiralwedge:
This long emotional outburst aptly buttressed my point. Absolutely irrelevant to my day-to-day and not well thought out. No respect for other people’s choices and oozes of stvpid superiority complex. Our way or no way. Nahhh, your emotional politics in the SE is inconsequential to grand scheme of things in this nation.
Oya, move along.

Don't worry.

That superiority complex will get even higher as the gap between the south and the north increases.

You think you are doing me?

The south will be fine whichever way.
We are educated people, we will always maintain a certain standard of living.

And that is good enough for me.

I don't give a fuckkkk about anywhere else.

May your Tinubu solve your problems.

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by kelvine(m): 6:27pm On Feb 26, 2023

Congratulations your master lost election grin

EduBrazil1991:
You felt attacked 😭😭😭

A proud slave spotted

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by kelvine(m): 6:29pm On Feb 26, 2023

Also read it many times didn't see where he mentioned Atiku or Obi, maybe it should be Sowore.
What do you think ?

KosiGee:
I read the post many times trying to find out where he mentioned Tinubu.

What are you on about? How did you end up linking Tinubu to what he said?

Re: I Used To Think Nigeria's Problem Was Bad Government - Pastor Kingsley Okonkwo by Jadeng: 6:32pm On Feb 26, 2023

The Government is made up of people from the society...

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