[quote author=SenatePresdo post=121962718]Its more like.

For you to pass WAEC, you must pass 5 subjects, and English language.

For you to win Presidential Election, you must have 25% in 24 states, and FCT.

They say that FCT is a state, is English not a subject??

We are impatiently waiting for them.[/quote

You geta for brain

Abeg you be one of the justices ?

seunmsg:
There is no confusion anywhere. That someone filed a case in court doesn’t mean he’s right. The case is simply a waste of time and will be trashed. Section 299 of the Constitution is as clear as daylight.

Even if they are 30 ,you must get 25% as ascribed in the constitution or there will be run off between the 3 runner ups

Formularcr7:
I don't think 25% in FCT will be a must because in future if we have 5 strong candidates, definitely none of them might have 25%. The 25% is only visible when we have few contestants

Atiku do not have the 25% spread

tyboy:
Obi lawyers just wan cash out the little money wey remain for obi hand. Obi you lost forget all these ur petition, atiku still get better chance than you for tribunal.

When you are writing an exam and the examiner ask you to answer question 1 and any other 4 what does it mean?.
If you don't answer question 1 and answer the remaining 4,it means you are wasting your time.

SmartPolician:
That FCT 25% NONSENSE sounds absurd to me. FCT is often separated from the 36 states because it's a territory, not a state (they cannot call it 37 states). However, as far as the election is concerned, FCT is like every other state in the country.

BTW, if Peter Obi is hoping to use that as basis to upturn Tinubu's sham victory, then I am afraid he has no case against the Druggie because it won't work.

Who you be, what do you know which 4kin crab hole did crawled out from?

So you know more than the learned experienced SAN who are asking the questions?

When the law tells you "must and shall" are 2 different things, you a nobody wants to tell us that FCT and states means the same thing
,

If you no get English C ,Bros no admission for you

Oskiki:


What is the big deal about English that you must pass it in WAEC to gain admission

IVORY2009:



The problem with INEC is that they don't listen, two highly respected legal personality in the country Mike and Olisa had told them ahead of time about the 25% issue but they kept mute, now the matter is before the court, less see how they would go about this.

INEC is not a Court of Law to give any opinion or comment on 25% issue. The Court of Law is the right place to interpret that. The two senior Lawyers should know better and they should have approached the Court for interpretation instead of writing to INEC.

Benwallt:
25% is not perculiar to FCT. It was included just as a state being a federal Capital Territory. Tinubu met the required percentage. He didn't get 25% in Anambra n some other places too

Olodo

Formularcr7:
I don't think 25% in FCT will be a must because in future if we have 5 strong candidates, definitely none of them might have 25%. The 25% is only visible when we have few contestants

Olodo

Tinubu made a big mistake, he should have channeled the energy he used to rig lagos election to the abuja election

denitro:


Olodo

Is that all? I think you can be more useless

helinues:
Charge and bail lawyer

Atleast he is better than Keyamo

Congratulations obidients

seunmsg:


Yes. On this matter, i know better than them. The lawyers are simply scamming Peter Obi of his money.

I can tell you have been listening to motivational speakers.

But don't worry. Before May29, I go buy you shock absorber.

puzzlegate:
so are implying that please come with " three persons AND a Lady " is the same with come with "three persons including a Lady"..... Are we really ok in this country ?

Lol. If you failed English Language in Primary School that's your problem. I can buy you Queen Prima so you can go back to the basics.

The 36 States and FCT is a list of items . If you have a list of two or more items in English, the last comma is removed and replaced with the conjunction AND.

Example;

-3 States of the Federation and the FCT have declared Friday as public holidays.

Can also be written as below;

- The States of Lagos, Oyo, Ogun and the FCT have declared Friday as public holidays.

Or

The FCT and the States of Lagos, Ogun and Oyo have declared Friday as public holiday.

Other examples

- Please buy bread,milk and cheese.

To list out the 36 states one after the other by their names is absurd when those feature in multiple places in the constitution. Also a list can be arranged anyhow and does not need to have a form. The constitution could list the states Alphabetically starting with Abia,....and Zamfara where FCT would be listed under F. Would this mean someone also has to get 25% in Zamfara or they are not duly elected?

I say it again. Any SAN bringing such up is nothing but deluded and need to return back to English classes. These are beer parlour arguments not fit for a court of law. If i were to be the Judge to preside over this. Would ask the petitioners to go stand under the sun for 1 hour for waste of my time.



https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma/#:~:text=Serial%20comma%20(Oxford%20comma),comma%20or%20the%20Oxford%20comma.


Even in Legal perspective, the concept of FCT being more equal than other states alone throws away the basic tenents of the Nigerian constitution and citizens rights that states that all Nigerians are equal and have equal rights to freedom of association and religion. Any SAN with common sense should know this but it's not unusual that we like to chase shawdows when we should be focusing on more productive things.

SmartPolician:
That FCT 25% NONSENSE sounds absurd to me. FCT is often separated from the 36 states because it's a territory, not a state (they cannot call it 37 states). However, as far as the election is concerned, FCT is like every other state in the country.

BTW, if Peter Obi is hoping to use that as basis to upturn Tinubu's sham victory, then I am afraid he has no case against the Druggie because it won't work.

If it’s a state like you said why isn’t it having it’s own house of assembly and Governorship rights. ? I think there’s a reason why it’s called the nation’s Capital

tosyne2much:
Mr Toks himself, the controversial writer of our time

Tosyn it's great to see your post after a long while.

Hope you are good.

SenatePresdo:


In that case, "include" is synonymous to "and"

"include " is among the 36 states.
Not exclusive from the 36 states

Emma1Oj:
I can tell you have been listening to motivational speakers.

But don't worry. Before May29, I go buy you shock absorber.

Lol. This one does not even know that the case will not be decided until around September and Supreme Court won’t rule on the matter till around November/December. So much for someone who want to shock others 🤣🤣🤣

KanwuliaExtra:
And MADMOOD refused to answer.

My brother Mahmood just wanted to collect Tinubu money asap and I declare him winer and leave Tinubu half way. Mahmood has collected his cheque that one concern Tinubu and his team.

Mindlog:


In real life, if one had 8 As and failed English language......that 8 As need to be investigated, how you take read pass those subjects?🤔

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN TINUBU WON THE ELECTION THROUGH RIGGING,HIS VICTORY IS QUESTIONABLE.

SmartPolician:
That FCT 25% NONSENSE sounds absurd to me. FCT is often separated from the 36 states because it's a territory, not a state (they cannot call it 37 states). However, as far as the election is concerned, FCT is like every other state in the country.

BTW, if Peter Obi is hoping to use that as basis to upturn Tinubu's sham victory, then I am afraid he has no case against the Druggie because it won't work.

you just nailed it with Thor's hammer. FCT is a territory carved out from different state therefore you cannot allocate a 25% requirement on it as it would be a dublication. The thinking of the constitution is that you can use the FCT as a state if you lack the ⅔ requirement. It is in the reading of the statement that misinterpretation comes in. It should be read ⅔ in the 36 states (and the FCT) which means that the FCT is optional. The word and the FCT means the FCT is secondary, and not necessary but can aid in achieving the required result.
PS
Just like when Lagos state was the capital, then we had Ikeja as the seat of Lagos state government and Lagos Island as the seat of FG. Therefore can we then say one would have required 25% in Lagos as a state and another 25% in Lagos Island which was a federal Territory then? That would be absurd.

Jnkay:


My brother Mahmood just wanted to collect Tinubu money asap and I declare him winer and leave Tinubu half way. Mahmood has collected his cheque that one concern Tinubu and his team.

I tell you.
Buhari too with that electoral act.. . .that he failed to translate in 3 major languages and the ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
How can they tell Nigerians they have 'ELECTORAL ACT to protect and secure their votes', then jump around in circles to tell them the INEC CHAIRMAN HAS THE FINAL SAY. . . and to go to hell with their votes?

So every ijjiot called 'INEC CHAIR-GOAT' will come every 4 years to tell us items in the 'electoral act' are not mandatory.
WHAT A BUNCH OF IJJJJIOTS!
Tinubu na reeeeeeeeeeeeeal foooool!
Who is catching the wotowoto now?

bvirtus001:


If it’s a state like you said why isn’t it having it’s own house of assembly and Governorship rights. ? I think there’s a reason why it’s called the nation’s Capital

because is fct, that is the reason for the "AND"

It would surprise you that it is part of being a lawyer to dissect language to the point where you question your sanity . They will carry torch and start searching for the intention of the law

onegig:


Lol. If you failed English Language in Primary School that's your problem. I can buy you Queen Prima so you can go back to the basics.

The 36 States and FCT is a list of items . If you have a list of two or more items in English, the last comma is removed and replaced with the conjunction AND.

Example;

-3 States of the Federation and the FCT have declared Friday as public holidays.

Can also be written as below;

- The States of Lagos, Oyo, Ogun and the FCT have declared Friday as public holidays.

Or

The FCT and the States of Lagos, Ogun and Oyo have declared Friday as public holiday.

Other examples

- Please buy bread,milk and cheese.

To list out the 36 states one after the other by their names is absurd when those feature in multiple places in the constitution. Also a list can be arranged anyhow and does not need to have a form. The constitution could list the states Alphabetically starting with Abia,....and Zamfara where FCT would be listed under F. Would this mean someone also has to get 25% in Zamfara or they are not duly elected?

I say it again. Any SAN bringing such up is nothing but deluded and need to return back to English classes. These are beer parlour arguments not fit for a court of law. If i were to be the Judge to preside over this. Would ask the petitioners to go stand under the sun for 1 hour for waste of my time.



https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma/#:~:text=Serial%20comma%20(Oxford%20comma),comma%20or%20the%20Oxford%20comma.


Even in Legal perspective, the concept of FCT being more equal than other states alone throws away the basic tenents of the Nigerian constitution and citizens rights that states that all Nigerians are equal and have equal rights to freedom of association and religion. Any SAN with common sense should know this but it's not unusual that we like to chase shawdows when we should be focusing on more productive things.

buharitill2023:
"include " is among the 36 states.
Not exclusive from the 36 states

It's exclusive, that's why they added a conjunction.

Sterope:
It would surprise you that it is part of being a lawyer to dissect language to the point where you question your sanity . They will carry torch and start searching for the intention of the law

I understand you guys obsession with questioning everything but even the SANs know this is plain and they are just grasping at straws here especially when there was a precedent that the Supreme court already decided on in 2003. I have an overview but don't have the full ruling as law union as archived it and requesting subscription for me to access.

I am not too sure of the full details of the case but it seemed the Presidential elections in Ogun State in 2003 was cancelled or so due to irregularities. And Ogun was one of the states Obasanjo was counting onfor fulfilling the 2/3rd of 36 States and FCT requirements. With Ogun cancelled, it meant OBJ had only 23 states and the FCT. Buhari went to court to state that since he now only had 25% in 23 states, it meant he didn't meet the requirement for spread and therefore the election should be annulled.

Court rulling was that FCT based on Section 299 should be considered a state and based on that OBJ still satisfies the requirements.

I am not 💯 sure on the wordings. We really don't keep online records well in this country so articles on the judgement is so scarce to cite but would look into archive.org if i can get a copy.

Yaruk1:

Why is it that obidients are so myopic in their thinking? A state has a Governor, does FTC has a Governor? A state has three senators, does FTC has three senators? So if the answers to these are NO, there's no how u will expect the same requirements to be met in that less than a state FTC. Make una wake up. Una don loose this election already and even the 2027

The law is the law....

wegevv:


This statement is idiotic. The constitution is the constitution. Let me show you:

If someone wins FCT and 22 states they still won't win first ballot. Even if they won more than 2 times the vote of the next person. How can the remaining 14 states be more powerful than the 22 states and FCT? Because the bloody constitution says so lol
Go and fight the constitution lol

25% required in FCT

Faceonme1443:
Read section 299

Lolz.... The constitution could have said majority of votes cast in Nigeria without bothering specifically including the 25% of FCT. The law is the law

PointB:


Let's even for the sake of argument say that the constitution recognise FCT as a state , the AND on it's own is a conjunction. It says whatever else you might have achieved in the election you need to obtain 25% vote cast in FCT. Whether FCT is a state or Capital Territory is, for the purpose of the conjunctive clause, immaterial.

I see no way out for Tinubu in the case, unless there is a miscarriage of justice.

Very correct