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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:08pm On May 13, 2023
Joebie:
I see no reason why Osimhen can’t play from the right considering Mbappe often plays from the left, the problem is we need a striker with a very high conversion rate, as lethal as Osimhen if Victor operates from the right.
is osimhen an mbappe type of player?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:08pm On May 13, 2023
Joebie:
I see no reason why Osimhen can’t play from the right considering Mbappe often plays from the left, the problem is we need a striker with a very high conversion rate, as lethal as Osimhen if Victor operates from the right.

Mbappe runs diagonally into or towards the box, he plays as a striker on the left but tracks back to at least midfield...

Osimhen can operate like that from the right ( Chukwueze's wing )... I have seen him score goals from the right by running diagonally into the box and shooting the ball, the issue is will he drop deep to midfield to pick up the ball then run at defenders...

most people ( 99% ) on this thread won't agree with your suggestion..

France plays Mbappe, Benzema, Dembele, Griezmann in the same starting 11... why can't Nigeria also play a powerful starting 11...

people on this thread are scared that a player may out-perform their favorite player..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:13pm On May 13, 2023
Seriously, i like your submission, but you are making a faulty comparison. Messi operating from the wings don’t make any striker outshine him. Osimhen is the best player we have right now. Nobody can take that from him.

codemaniacs:


Mbappe runs diagonally into or towards the box, he plays as a striker on the left but tracks back to at least midfield...

Osimhen can operate like that from the right ( Chukwueze's wing )... I have seen him score goals from the right by running diagonally into the box and shooting the ball, the issue is will he drop deep to midfield to pick up the ball then run at defenders...

most people ( 99% ) on this thread won't agree with your suggestion..

France plays Mbappe, Benzema, Dembele, Griezmann in the same starting 11... why can't Nigeria also play a powerful starting 11...

people on this thread are scared that a player may out-perform their favorite player..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:14pm On May 13, 2023
Joebie:
He needs to leave Belgium fast to be be in our SE conversation. Despite Onuachu’s exploits there, his style was always going to mean he will struggle in SE, forget his few moments. Orban, May be too early to say, but he’s had a phenomenal start.

Orban’s style of play will make him explode in any terrain he finds him self. He is explosive,strong,a good carrier of the ball and can shoot from outside the 18 yard box. Also he’s technical ability is decent with the tendency of improving in the nearest future. Remember he is just 20

He can’t be compared to an onuachu who feeds only on aeriel balls and tap in

Even when onuachu was scoring for fun in Belgium I never rated him and many times said he will flop in a more competitive league and many labeled me a hater for stating the obvious. The same reason after scoring truck load of goals no serious team considered him good enough to splash the type of money genk were demanding before soton came calling

The same league a young osimhen tore to shreds with even low goal ratio when compared to that of onuachu but still earned a move to lille while the latter who had better goal scoring ratio struggled for almost 3 reasons to get a move to lowly rated soton
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:15pm On May 13, 2023
Let’s have the discussion, because we have seen other players who are not natural wingers operate from there. The question is how to make SE stronger, not necessarily playing Osimhen in his fav position.

Papi85:
is osimhen an mbappe type of player?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:21pm On May 13, 2023
Joebie:
Let’s have the discussion, because we have seen other players who are not natural wingers operate from there. The question is how to make SE stronger, not necessarily playing Osimhen in his fav position.

osimhen doesn’t hv those tricks and turns to operate from the flanks. He has the pace but I seriously doubt he will be a hand full for the opposition’s defenders coming from the flanks

Just like playing lewandoski,lukaku,haaland and haller from the flanks. They won’t be effective at all

I will rather try Moffi,boniface and Orban frm the flanks instead of osimhen,awoniyi or sadiq

The last trio I mentioned are out and out number 9s who are very effective when played in their natural position

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 8:31pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
I mean tribe 🤔
lmao. I knew it would later come to this when he was forming tribal supremacist here in thread. Leave politics out of the thread he said no, now His posts would now be looked upon as tribalistic. Very funny dude

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:32pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
osimhen doesn’t hv those tricks and turns to operate from the flanks. He has the pace but I seriously doubt he will be a hand full for the opposition’s defenders coming from the flanks

Just like playing lewandoski,lukaku,haaland and haller from the flanks. They won’t be effective at all

I will rather try Moffi,boniface and Orban frm the flanks instead of osimhen,awoniyi or sadiq

The last trio I mentioned are out and out number 9s who are very effective when played in their natural position

its not about tricks... Lukaku does it alot.. runs diagonally from the right into the box then scores and since he is tall and big he doesn't need tricks because it will be difficult to tackle him and push him off the ball, other players will fall down looking for the foul...

Boniface can play from the flanks on both wings, from the goals I just watched on Youtube he can operate on both wings..

put Osimhen on the right, put Boniface on the Left, then put Awoniyi in the center then Orban behind Awoniyi and you have a deadly attack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lbrichman2: 8:33pm On May 13, 2023
codemaniacs:


its not about tricks... Lukaku does it alot.. runs diagonally from the right into the box then scores and since he is tall and big he doesn't need tricks because it will be difficult to tackle him and push him off the ball, other players will fall down looking for the foul...

Boniface can play from the flanks on both wings, from the goals I just watched on Youtube he can operate on both wings..

put Osimhen on the right, put Boniface on the Left, then put Awoniyi in the center then Orban behind Awoniyi and you have a deadly attack.

Na wa o
Who go come dey midfield?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 8:35pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
osimhen doesn’t hv those tricks and turns to operate from the flanks. He has the pace but I seriously doubt he will be a hand full for the opposition’s defenders coming from the flanks

Just like playing lewandoski,lukaku,haaland and haller from the flanks. They won’t be effective at all

I will rather try Moffi,boniface and Orban frm the flanks instead of osimhen,awoniyi or sadiq

The last trio I mentioned are out and out number 9s who are very effective when played in their natural position
osihmen would even fare better playing as a second striker than as a winger. We need to utilize him well and it can only come as him leading the forward line.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:38pm On May 13, 2023
codemaniacs:


Mbappe runs diagonally into or towards the box, he plays as a striker on the left but tracks back to at least midfield...

Osimhen can operate like that from the right ( Chukwueze's wing )... I have seen him score goals from the right by running diagonally into the box and shooting the ball, the issue is will he drop deep to midfield to pick up the ball then run at defenders...

most people ( 99% ) on this thread won't agree with your suggestion..

France plays Mbappe, Benzema, Dembele, Griezmann in the same starting 11... why can't Nigeria also play a powerful starting 11...

people on this thread are scared that a player may out-perform their favorite player..

Griezman is at he’s best when deployed as an SS/AM which is he’s natural position. He can as well play from the right wing and cf which naturally makes him a well rounded offensive player but he is more effective playing behind a number 9

You can’t compare griezman’s ability to that of osimhen or awoniyi. They are differently built and hv their natural position which suits their attributes and natural abilities more

When the CIV had drogba, kalou and others why didn’t dey for once deploy drogba as a SS or winger? Rather they always play kalou in those position all the tym even when kalou made he’s name at feyenord as a cf where he scored goals that attracted chelsea to bring him to London

Osimhen and awoniyi can never function at the same time wether as an SS,AM,RW or LW

You for kuku ask wetin mk westahof no play efan ekoku and yekini at the same time but preferred siasia or amokachi instead of the former Wimbledon and Norwich hit man

Kanu and agali started some matches for the super eagles because kanu can play the SS position perfectly with he’s natural ability to serve as the link between the midfield and attack. Such ability comes naturally. It’s inbuilt and neither osimhen nor awoniyi has it

The same reason ex Dutch international Bergkamp was mostly deployed behind Henry by wenger at arsenal year ago even when former is a striker as well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:40pm On May 13, 2023
Amedino99:
osihmen would even fare better playing as a second striker than as a winger. We need to utilize him well and it can only come as him leading the forward line.
make una Dey play 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:41pm On May 13, 2023
codemaniacs:


its not about tricks... Lukaku does it alot.. runs diagonally from the right into the box then scores and since he is tall and big he doesn't need tricks because it will be difficult to tackle him and push him off the ball, other players will fall down looking for the foul...

Boniface can play from the flanks on both wings, from the goals I just watched on Youtube he can operate on both wings..

put Osimhen on the right, put Boniface on the Left, then put Awoniyi in the center then Orban behind Awoniyi and you have a deadly attack.
oga I give up. You will make a very bad tactician 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No near even your village team say u wan coach them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:43pm On May 13, 2023
Amedino99:
lmao. I knew it would later come to this when he was forming tribal supremacist here in thread. Leave politics out of the thread he said no, now His posts would now be looked upon as tribalistic. Very funny dude
the guy no well 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Me saying that osimhen is miles better than awo must be an Esan man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:52pm On May 13, 2023
lbrichman2:


Na wa o
Who go come dey midfield?

That's the point...

unlike Osimhen.... Boniface, Awoniyi and Orban drop deep and track back to help the defense and midfield.. and they should be instructed to drop deep.. put Iwobi and Onyedika in Midfield or remove Orban and put Iwobi, Onyeka or Nwakali and Onyedika in midfield..

S.E already plays with a lean midfield and not scoring goals, so its better to put the strongest attack and see if they will score than to not invite them or put them on the bench..

S.E and Nigerian coaches have penchant for not inviting the best players or putting the best players on the bench...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:53pm On May 13, 2023
Osimhen and awoniyi can only work if we deploy a 3 man defense formation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:09pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
city will likely rest some players with regards to next weeks ucl return leg against Madrid

If iwobi and he’s mates can get a draw it will be massive point for them

For pple wey dey play sport betting I will advise mk dem comot body for that game 🤣

True. Plus na Everton dey house. Anything fit happen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 9:20pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
Orban’s style of play will make him explode in any terrain he finds him self. He is explosive,strong,a good carrier of the ball and can shoot from outside the 18 yard box. Also he’s technical ability is decent with the tendency of improving in the nearest future. Remember he is just 20

He can’t be compared to an onuachu who feeds only on aeriel balls and tap in

Even when onuachu was scoring for fun in Belgium I never rated him and many times said he will flop in a more competitive league and many labeled me a hater for stating the obvious. The same reason after scoring truck load of goals no serious team considered him good enough to splash the type of money genk were demanding before soton came calling

The same league a young osimhen tore to shreds with even low goal ratio when compared to that of onuachu but still earned a move to lille while the latter who had better goal scoring ratio struggled for almost 3 reasons to get a move to lowly rated soton




I've been thinking about this and I have come to the conclusion that Onuachu's agent must be very lazy and inefficient. In fact, the guy na cow.

Why did get him a move to Southampton of all places? Didn't he see mid table teams like Fulham and Brighton that specialize in a lot of dangerous crosses into the box?

Onuachu would have scored more goals playing as a back up striker to Mitrovic or even struggling for the number 9 spot with Welbeck/Ferguson in Brighton.

He scored lots of goals in Genk because he had the likes of Ito and Bongonda around him. These players knew how to cross the ball.

I can't even name any good Southampton winger/fullback but in Fulham, there's Willian. In Brighton, there's Mitoma, March, Gross. These players can guarantee you at least two good crosses each, per game.

If those teams don't want you, then stay in your Belgium or move to Spain/France.

That move to Southampton still dey vex me till today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:30pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
Osimhen and awoniyi can only work if we deploy a 3 man defense formation.

No disrespect to Awoniyi but I would take Victor Boniface ahead of him to pair Osimhen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 9:31pm On May 13, 2023
My only worry about Gift Orbanis his age

To be honest, that guy commot at least 10yrs from his real age

And judging by that he has only 2 - 3 good years of football left

So, he isn't someone for the future

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 9:32pm On May 13, 2023
Blueelf:
My only worry about Gift Orbanis his age

To be honest, that guy commot at least 10yrs from his real age

And judging by that he has only 2 - 3 good years of football left

So, he isn't someone for the future
So you are saying that boy is in his 30s? undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:32pm On May 13, 2023
COOL10:





I've been thinking about this and I have come to the conclusion that Onuachu's agent must be very lazy and inefficient. In fact, the guy na cow.

Why did get him a move to Southampton of all places? Didn't he see mid table teams like Fulham and Brighton that specialize in a lot of dangerous crosses into the box?

Onuachu would have scored more goals playing as a back up striker to Mitrovic or even struggling for the number 9 spot with Welbeck/Ferguson in Brighton.

He scored lots of goals in Genk because he had the likes of Ito and Bongonda around him. These players knew how to cross the ball.

I can't even name any good Southampton winger/fullback but in Fulham, there's Willian. In Brighton, there's Mitoma, March, Gross. These players can guarantee you at least two good crosses each, per game.

If those teams don't want you, then stay in your Belgium or move to Spain/France.

That move to Southampton still dey vex me till today.


how will he move to the teams you mentioned when they never had any interest in him?

He was desperate to leave the Belgian league and the only tangible offer he got was that of soton

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:41pm On May 13, 2023
codemaniacs:


That's the point...

unlike Osimhen.... Boniface, Awoniyi and Orban drop deep and track back to help the defense and midfield.. and they should be instructed to drop deep.. put Iwobi and Onyedika in Midfield or remove Orban and put Iwobi, Onyeka or Nwakali and Onyedika in midfield..

S.E already plays with a lean midfield and not scoring goals, so its better to put the strongest attack and see if they will score than to not invite them or put them on the bench..

S.E and Nigerian coaches have penchant for not inviting the best players or putting the best players on the bench...
You acknowledge that the team midfield is lean which affects our chance of scoring goals. And to improve it you are suggesting we bring in our best attack,i.e oshimen, awoniyi, moffi etc without improving on the lean midfield and will automatically start coming. How? shocked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:44pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:


Griezman is at he’s best when deployed as an SS/AM which is he’s natural position. He can as well play from the right wing and cf which naturally makes him a well rounded offensive player but he is more effective playing behind a number 9

You can’t compare griezman’s ability to that of osimhen or awoniyi. They are differently built and hv their natural position which suits their attributes and natural abilities more

When the CIV had drogba, kalou and others why didn’t dey for once deploy drogba as a SS or winger? Rather they always play kalou in those position all the tym even when kalou made he’s name at feyenord as a cf where he scored goals that attracted chelsea to bring him to London

Osimhen and awoniyi can never function at the same time wether as an SS,AM,RW or LW

You for kuku ask wetin mk westahof no play efan ekoku and yekini at the same time but preferred siasia or amokachi instead of the former Wimbledon and Norwich hit man

Kanu and agali started some matches for the super eagles because kanu can play the SS position perfectly with he’s natural ability to serve as the link between the midfield and attack. Such ability comes naturally. It’s inbuilt and neither osimhen nor awoniyi has it

The same reason ex Dutch international Bergkamp was mostly deployed behind Henry by wenger at arsenal year ago even when former is a striker as well

Its not your place to choose for them what position they play..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:48pm On May 13, 2023
Lautaro Martinez scored today Osimhen over to you tomorrow

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:49pm On May 13, 2023
We can play 4-3-3 (our best forwards) or 3–5-2, wing backs that can cross
zicky:
You acknowledge that the team midfield is lean which affects our chance of scoring goals. And to improve it you are suggesting we bring in our best attack,i.e oshimen, awoniyi, moffi etc without improving on the lean midfield and will automatically start coming. How? shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 9:49pm On May 13, 2023
Papi85:
how will he move to the teams you mentioned when they never had any interest in him?

He was desperate to leave the Belgian league and the only tangible offer he got was that of soton


Yeah, you're right and that's why I said he should have stayed in Belgium since they didn't indicate interest in him but I still feel his agent could have done more.

If a relegation threatened Southampton was the best team he could get for Onuachu in the EPL even with all the goals he scored in Belgium, then he must be a quack agent. Try comparing him with Choupo Moting's agent and you'll see what I mean.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 10:01pm On May 13, 2023
This is someone that knows football. Iwobi or Iheanacho behind Oshimen in a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2 Oshimen and Awo/Moffi upfront.
Papi85:
Osimhen and awoniyi can only work if we deploy a 3 man defense formation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 10:02pm On May 13, 2023
Victor Eletu has arrived Flying Eagles camp in Argentina. Wishing the team all the best.

I'm still pained at Golden Eaglets exit from the U17 World cup 2023.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:08pm On May 13, 2023
solonnachi:
Victor Eletu has arrived Flying Eagles camp at Argentina.

Wishing the team all the best

Dis victor eletu guy ppu re shouting up and Dan is he anoda Pablo aimar or riquelme 😊…I no understand,make d guy sha no disappoint
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:10pm On May 13, 2023
Awoniyi's post match interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNUbTDTD4qk

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bossman5(m): 10:17pm On May 13, 2023
What's happening to chukwueze

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