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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by donmik: 5:20pm On May 15, 2023
The same happened to Kaduna and Kano who used religious and sharia molestation to rum themselves down too.

Lagos gov't should learn this too.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Alliswell248: 5:20pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:
There was no war in warri... it was greed and non inclusion of outsiders that were helping the city thrive .... same thing can happen to lagos with the way things are going.. u keep on burning the market of the igbos and telling them to leave lagos... same way warrians told foreign investors to leave their land if they don't do what the indigenes wanted...of cos , they had enough and left... that's black man for u, no sense at all... only experts at destroying chances... if Igbos leave lagos , most big companies will move away from lagos cos they are somehow tied to these igbo business

Smile...keep deceiving yourself.
Igbo can never leave Lagos.
Where would they go to?
No better place than Lagos.
Ask Obi, Ngige, Obiano.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by sweerychick(f): 5:22pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:


That building is the same na...the building in Victoria island that was built in the 80s... that building has been standing there since IBB was head of state ... its certain u don't stay in lagos ... cos u wud hv been seeing this building b4 Tinubu became senator ... and u wud hv known that its in V.i and not lekki
the guy obviously thought because the building is located near lekki toll gate it is in lekki.. Not knowing it's in VI.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by OmoOshodi(m): 5:22pm On May 15, 2023
Ireportlive:
cool




James Ibori vs Bola Ahmed Tinubu

When Econet came to Nigeria, they met with the political class to help them facilitate their operation lisence and Set-up

They met James Ibori who insisted on collecting millions of dollars as bribe

They met Bola Ahmed Tinubu who invested Lagos revenue in their company helping them setup and making profits in billions for Lagos State

When ExxonMobil wanted to build an headquarters, Bola Ahmed Tinubu quickly made available land in Lekki and as the company treasurer he ensured the building was constructed in Lagos

Sometimes it takes strong leadership like that of Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu Jagaban of Borgu GCFR to control wayward youths and engage them like they did with MC Oluomo and his goons in Lagos

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engage them in what Thuggery and extortion
Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by SaLongs1(m): 5:22pm On May 15, 2023
duro4chang:
Ichabod
The glory has departed.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by thesilentman(m): 5:23pm On May 15, 2023
Wow! Op this your post get where e touch somehow.Reminds me of my work-stay at Effurun wayback in 2009.Perhaps i met the remnants of the former glory.Hustled around DSC roundabout/POWA Plaza then.Lovely place.
OH I almost forget Angela-that itsekiri damsel for Osubi wey dey dish me delicious eba with egusi soup codedly make her madam no know.When itsekiri babe love dem love be that.But everywhere don cast now-babe like Angela go don scarce for Osubi.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Saga16: 5:24pm On May 15, 2023
Bananapill:


True story. My community, Aladja, host to DSC,B+B, Techni trade, Peter Man looking very empty now. I remember in those days by 5pm the community will start bubbling as workers close from work. As kids,we visit the camp white men were staying playing with their kids toy guns through the barbed wire fence.
It's all memories now...

Na the powerbikes wey those oyinbos dey use dey enter my eyes those days.

Come see young guys wearing Schlumberger overall.
Come add Chief Idisi's lonestar join.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by sherylbaky(f): 5:24pm On May 15, 2023
Greediness angry
renderme:


Dangote bought PH and Kaduna refinery when Obasanjo privatised it. He was abused dt they've sold PH to northerner. Nigerdelta agitations started not much after. He relinquished the deal as yaradua took over.
As a result, when he decided to build a refinery he only considered Ondo and Lagos and avoided the SS. Ondo was demanding money while Lagos begged him to come with tax incentives.

It's a business decision.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by mrvitalis(m): 5:25pm On May 15, 2023
mu2sa2:
Food for thought. Even formidable empires, city states and kingdoms have collapsed in the past as a result of wars and insecurity. Look at Ukraine, a thriving, prosperous country being systematically reduced to rubble. Russia itself will eventually face catastrophic economic decline, no thanks to biting sanctions by the West. That's why ipob/esn/ugm must not be allowed to overrun the SE. The violence those criminals are perpetrating would eventually create the Warri scenario in cities and communities across the SE if allowed to continue. Those who criticise Buhari because of the capture of Nnamdi Kanu, the mastermind of the violence consuming the SE, forget that Kanu is a British citizen and as we have seen had and, even now, has japa plans to flee alaigbo to the safety of Britain where his wife, children and girlfriends live.
South east is uniquely designed in a way to withstand these situation ....south east would have been badly affected but 99% of the business are native owned ...so economically the I security haven't affected it much

What happened in warri is the effect of too much direct investment from foreigners

Lagos is towing same part

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Efewestern: 5:26pm On May 15, 2023
dominique:
My friend from Warri told me told me this much. Up to five different factions will be on the companies' neck demanding for their share of the levies. By the time the companies are heaving a sigh of relief that they have seen the last of them, another set will emerge and make more demands. As the fathers are demanding for money, the sons are stealing equipments belonging to these companies, destroying their sites and demanding for their own. Now all the companies have left their land for them and unemployment is now the order of the day. This is what greed and lack of foresight does to people.

Wait till you start a building project. πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

People who complain about Omonile in Lagos haven't experienced 1/10th of what our boys are capable of doing.

You are expected to pay levies upon levies... quarter levy, Development levy, building permit, contractor levy, carpenter levy, cut-off, Iron bending levy. Whatever association you can think of. No-one is spared, even some of us with some sort of ancestral links are being taxed. May God strengthen all developers.

But funny as this may sound, Warri is fast expanding and still remains the biggest city in the state. The areas the OP mentioned are what we call old-warri. Places in Uvwie, Udu and Okpe are as developed as any top city in Nigeria.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Saga16: 5:27pm On May 15, 2023
Litmus:


"Developed economies give everyone equal opportunity and treat all equally". grin

You're funny.


That one na local champion.

Leave am.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Saga16: 5:27pm On May 15, 2023
madridguy:
Why not take your time to open another thread to counter what the OP wrote about your Warri.


That guy is not from warri.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by pocom35: 5:27pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:
There was no war in warri... it was greed and non inclusion of outsiders that were helping the city thrive .... same thing can happen to lagos with the way things are going.. u keep on burning the market of the igbos and telling them to leave lagos... same way warrians told foreign investors to leave their land if they don't do what the indigenes wanted...of cos , they had enough and left... that's black man for u, no sense at all... only experts at destroying chances... if Igbos leave lagos , most big companies will move away from lagos cos they are somehow tied to these igbo business

No big company will move..and no big company has any business with Igbo.

Igbo come to do normal trading.. importing and selling to buyers.

Companies mostly manufacture and they handle their imports themselves..the only thing that can shift those companies is the sea ports... Close it down and the companies will move.

Nothing consign them with igbos

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by alobright17(m): 5:28pm On May 15, 2023
shortgun:

Really?
You couldn't relate the write up also to Lagos on account of what happened in the last election and threats to non natives and their businesses?

The bigotry in you won't let you?

Oga I’m Igbo but Lagos is like Real Madrid , Barcelona PSG Manchester United Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool.e.t,c they can’t go to relegation .

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by maasoap(m): 5:28pm On May 15, 2023
tuoyoojo:
Warri has went the way of sapele. The last time I was there, hmmm....it was an eyesore. I shell of its former self

The most annoying thing is the "deve" and the agitation of the youths

People who do not want to work hard but want to live large because a company is in your locality

They were quick to say to those companies if you are not paying deve, leave!!. Now they have left. Who is suffering the brunt

Like what someone said, one man's loss it another's gain.

It would take a miracle for warri to get back to its former glory

Unfortunately successive delta government has not been pulling their weight in development in warri.

Ondo state governor asked Dangote to pay for land needed to build his largest refinery in West Africa or go somewhere else. Lagos state governor sent invitation letter to Dangote to come and take as much land as needed free of charge. Some leaders deserve nothing but stoning.

Edited: they said the govt didn't ask for money but land owners did. The question is: where was the gov at the time? All land in the state belongs to the government

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by iFESTAC680(m): 5:28pm On May 15, 2023
I remember the "Deve" thingy
Hmmmm, but warri might never recover from this. Nonetheless with careful planning it's achievable

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by obianoooo: 5:29pm On May 15, 2023
PrinceMajestic:
Moderators of nairaland so you guys decided to harm Delta State for no reason especially my region, allowing people from poorer regions and poorer states to be insulting my people here for no good reason? You guys Yoruba and ibo tribal war is now so boring that it's now Delta and my people you all have decided to start insulting for no reason?

Lol!!

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by ire803386: 5:29pm On May 15, 2023
That's not all, same with dangote refinery. It was meant to be in ondo/ogun state. But what the then governor (mimiko) was asking for was huge
Ireportlive:
cool




James Ibori vs Bola Ahmed Tinubu

When Econet came to Nigeria, they met with the political class to help them facilitate their operation lisence and Set-up

They met James Ibori who insisted on collecting millions of dollars as bribe

They met Bola Ahmed Tinubu who invested Lagos revenue in their company helping them setup and making profits in billions for Lagos State

When ExxonMobil wanted to build an headquarters, Bola Ahmed Tinubu quickly made available land in Lekki and as the company treasurer he ensured the building was constructed in Lagos

Sometimes it takes strong leadership like that of Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu Jagaban of Borgu GCFR to control wayward youths and engage them like they did with MC Oluomo and his goons in Lagos

.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by ire803386: 5:31pm On May 15, 2023
alobright17:
Oga I’m Igbo but Lagos is like Real Madrid , Barcelona PSG Manchester United Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool.e.t,c they can’t go to relegation .

Oga abeg remove Chelsea wey almost relegate this season....lol

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Blaze14k: 5:31pm On May 15, 2023
Do nigerians learn? Instead we make it worst in the most humbling way

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by slowice(m): 5:31pm On May 15, 2023
Rikze:
This is a very very correct πŸ’―

Though I wasn't in Warri at the time all this happened. But I can see the shadows of the Glorious past.


Whenever I drive through DSC and its township I can't help but imagine what life was like then.

Or is it the Enerhe axis, Macdermoth, refinery, old airport and Osubi.


When you hear locals discuss what Warri was like, you'll know it was a city with great potentials killed by "deve".


PH almost towed same line with their "marching ground", "bush entry" and other crazy taxation by the indigenes. The saviour is that no war erupted, but it affected some companies to the point that govt at some point had to intervene.

We must learn a lesson

Even portharcourt never recovered from militancy issue and if you were in pH pre militancy era, you will that portharcourt will never recover again..... Not with our current style of politics

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by bluefilm: 5:32pm On May 15, 2023
tomitrace:
War destroys cities:
Every Nigeria City or aspiring city should learn something from the Collapse of Warri as Oil CityπŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡πŸ‘‡

Warri was a big industrial hub in the 70's - 90's.

Warri Refinery, NNPC, DSC, Delta Glass, Shell, Chevron, Schlumberger, Dunlop, Agip, Saipem, Halliburton were in full operation back then. Escravos & Forcados were at their peak.

The city thrived. The city was full of zeal and zestful activities. People living outside hardcore Warri called themselves Wafarians because of propinquity to Warri even though they were not Wafarians. To be a Wafarian was to belong to supposedly a unique lifestyle.

Multinational/Local Banks were present Citibank, FBN, ACB, Savannah Bank.

Business activities thrived. Warri port was a beehive of economic activities

Entertainment/Night life was at its peak, Musicians, Live bands at Palmgroove Hotel, Comedians held their sway: Fela, legendary Don Baker, Majek Fashek, Emma Grey, Oritz Wiliki, Rex Lawson were a few of many of the entertainers that made Warri ebullient. Lido, Zina, etc were comparable to their ilks anywhere.

The town was full of life and it thrived.

McDermot road was busy with Maritime activities and contractors. Kingsway Mall offered anything sold in Lagos at that time.

Joma & Mosheshe were big fish distributors across the Niger Delta.

Rubber produced locally, was used to produce plastics and tyres.

The town grew in size and became a conurbation with people coming from all over the country to settle down in Warri for economic activities.

The Airports were super busy, Escravos, Forcados & Warri Airport. The Warri Airport was even relocated to Osubi for expansion.

Warri was revelling in its glory. Warri Port was fully operational and served as an economic booster for the city. It served businesses in Warri, Benin, Asaba & Onitsha. The Port created huge employment opportunities for locals and the state.

Things started to go downhill from the late 90's. The community leaders and youth chairmen began to fight themselves over control/sharing formula for royalties that came from oil & businesses from settlers.

Itsekiri, Urhobo & Ijaw leaders & youths started fighting each other. The bloody fight started around 1999 and lasted for years till 2003/2004.

The community leaders started imposing local taxes called "Deve" on all companies, industries and local businesses, buildings & projects.

Little by little, the companies frustrated, started leaving.

This continued throughout the early 2000's till 2010. The companies kept on leaving, one after the other. The companies layed off their employees. Unemployment rose.

More companies left for PH, Lagos, Akwa Ibom. They layed off more staff. Unemployment increased still.

Today all that is left in Warri, is a shadow of its glorious past.

95% of all the big companies in Warri had either left or closed down.

Most of the young people have left Warri.

The ones left are driving Keke, doing P.O.S, Spa or Boutique, Beer parlour or doing hookup.

There's peace now, but the damage the greedy community leaders did to Warri, still lingers on and is almost irredeemable at this point.

Do not assume that your city can not be destroyed if it toes the same route Warri followed. Warri leaders did not ever believe that Warri will be this economically empty today while they were fighting then. Learn from Warri and protect our economies

Have you asked why big eeconomies like US, China,etc will never allow war in their countries?

We must learn and avoid things that will trigger war in our country no matter how strong we believe we are. Businesses and investors go where there is peace than where there is war.

Follow us on This Is Nigeria

Cities grow and die.

Even the great Roman Empire and the City of Rome fell to ruins at the right time.

That's life.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Jack500: 5:32pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:
There was no war in warri... it was greed and non inclusion of outsiders that were helping the city thrive .... same thing can happen to lagos with the way things are going.. u keep on burning the market of the igbos and telling them to leave lagos... same way warrians told foreign investors to leave their land if they don't do what the indigenes wanted...of cos , they had enough and left... that's black man for u, no sense at all... only experts at destroying chances... if Igbos leave lagos , most big companies will move away from lagos cos they are somehow tied to these igbo business

Just shatap!

Are you saying their are more ibos in Lagos that entire SE, why are the company not in SE with higher ibo population.

you urgently need brain, before you enter market.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Bahamas95(m): 5:33pm On May 15, 2023
Na churches business centers full Warri now.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by maasoap(m): 5:33pm On May 15, 2023
mrvitalis:

South east is uniquely designed in a way to withstand these situation ....south east would have been badly affected but 99% of the business are native owned ...so economically the I security haven't affected it much

What happened in warri is the effect of too much direct investment from foreigners

Lagos is towing same part
Lagos is the number one preferred destination of majority of the south west people.
Besides, no taxes that is specifically targeted at outsiders. Every tax affects everyone irrespective of their tribes. So, I don't see Lagos moving in the same direction.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Jack500: 5:34pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:


Lagos is towing that part gradually

Shatap! Lagos can never be a ghost town, carry your bag and go to your useless region

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by airsaylongcome: 5:34pm On May 15, 2023
Efewestern:


Wait till you start a building project. πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

People who complain about Omonile in Lagos haven't experienced 1/10th of what our boys are capable of doing.

You are expected to pay levies upon levies... quarter levy, Development levy, building permit, contractor levy, carpenter levy, cut-off, Iron bending levy. Whatever association you can think of. No-one is spared, even some of us with some sort of ancestral links are being taxed. May God strengthen all developers.

But funny as this may sound, Warri is fast expanding and still remains the biggest city in the state. The areas the OP mentioned are what we call old-warri. Places in Uvwie, Udu and Okpe are as developed as any top city in Nigeria.

Uvwie, Udu and Okpe are developed? Which places? I grew up in Ekete/Orhuwhorun road. In the days when Beeland and Pogie's house were the most magnificent buildings in the neighborhood. Today where is all of that? Let's not talk about the DSC disaster.

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Krublog(m): 5:34pm On May 15, 2023
SOSPITAS:
Sapele is very similar. In the 90s we had eternit, flour mill, ATP, BATA, mayflower, power generating company, a mini seaport, cinema at Olympia, athletic club with a standard golf course and several others. But today, none of that exist. The only company there is seplat(and there are indications that the intend to move operational base away). Insecurity had increase because of no job, na everyday dem dey kidnap person. All the beautiful estate built in those days done cast, infact, sapele na dead zone now.

Cinema for Olympia na church dey there now.
Vita foam, Eternit, Flour Mill, etc don relocate.

Otite
Ogbodu and the rest estates are now shadows of past glories of a once burgeoning city.

What a pity...

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by maasoap(m): 5:34pm On May 15, 2023
renderme:


Dangote bought PH and Kaduna refinery when Obasanjo privatised it. He was abused dt they've sold PH to northerner. Nigerdelta agitations started not much after. He relinquished the deal as yaradua took over.
As a result, when he decided to build a refinery he only considered Ondo and Lagos and avoided the SS. Ondo was demanding money while Lagos begged him to come with tax incentives.

It's a business decision.
Much love

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by Jack500: 5:36pm On May 15, 2023
Kingcalls:


Burning markets that tge igbos trade , over taxing those that do business , forcing them to not vote their preferred candidate, telling them to leave lagos and gk back to their states ... if every single igbo man decides to dump lagos and go back their their home towns , lagos will collapse, the price of properties will crash massively , Imagine all banks that belongs to the igbos shuts down and relocate , zenith, uba , fidelity, access and some others , companies like seplat ,coscharis , real estates , laundry services, most electronic shops and spare parts for cars and generators , some I.T firms , just imagine how it will affect lagos IGR ... most choice properties are acquired by the Igbos ... do u know how it will affect the real estate business in lagos, Hospitality business, Hospitals owned by the igbos shuts down ... lagos will gradually turn to ibadan .... SE is the only region that other tribes don't invest in but still trives.... imagine if SE had a port like lagos .... other African countries cine to Alaba and trade fair to buy goods for business, lagos is the one benefiting from this ...but still black man mentality, them talk say mk igno man leave Lagos... Americans never told the Italians to leave America in the 20s 30s 40s when they ran the mafia system cos America were making so much money from their trade, it helped America escape the great depression


Keep fooling yourself. You will be alright eventually

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by slowice(m): 5:36pm On May 15, 2023
Lagos is slowly sluding down that path ably supported by politicians and ethnic bigots.... It may take forever but if they don't retrace their steps that forever may just be around the corner.

They may not be the biggest port city for too long.

Port Harcourt did same with militancy and never recover... Though far better than warri but portharcourt is going down yearly

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Re: Every Nigeria City Should Learn Something From The Collapse Of Warri. by ppogba: 5:38pm On May 15, 2023
airsaylongcome:


There was no war in Warri? Are you kidding me? The war started in 1996 when LG HQ was moved to Ogidigben. The fracas that followed was definitely a war

History lessons are not for everyone. The fellow you responded to is obviously a kid who never heard of the word " Warri crises". Making reference to 1996 is simply referring to a period he was certainly yet unborn.

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