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Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Okwyjesus(m): 3:14pm On May 24, 2023
poyo:
Most of the South South youths are lazy, they mostly rely on settlements amd what the portion of money they will get from investors.l

Majorly Rivers and Bayelsa
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Karnice600: 4:07pm On May 24, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Rivers state again. Smh.
Rivers state is not that liberal in things like this.

Join others like Alhaji Aliko Dangote,GCON, invest in Yorubaland. Take your investments away from unfriendly and hostile states and bring them with your talents to Lagos and other Yorubaland states.

Your investments will be safe and bring you great returns for as long as you do not hate us your Yoruba host and you do not dabble into our politics. Our land will not bless you if you live and do business in Yorubaland and hate us.

Our land is blessed and ready to host you, your family and your investments and bless only those who love us. You're just wasting your time and resources if you live and do business in Yorubaland but hate the Yoruba. Yorubaland will not bless you. If you hate us and live and do business in Yorubaland, the Yoruba will make your stay unbearable for you until you are forced to take your hatred and bigotry out of Yorubaland and return you back to where you came from empty handed.

Invest in Yorubaland today. Thank you.
God bless Nigeria for ever.
Check my signature for free stuffs!

Dangote is a nice man who’s benefiting from Buhari’s terrible policies that have pitched him above the rest. Cement used to be around 1500 for a bag, when Ibeto, as well as other options were available, before FG’s reckless ban of sensitive imports. Dangote afterwards monopolized that circle and we saw a how the cost had doubled up to 5k after then, despite being produced locally.
If North had a coastal state, that refinery won’t be in Lagos.
Fossil fuel is gonna still be in demand for at least the next 50 years, so researchers say but I don’t expect Dangote to be familiar with the idea that the world is going green. This is Dangote’s refinery , yeah, not Nigeria’s… See as Buhari just jump fiam reach Lagos to cut ribbon. While Nigeria’s own worn out refineries are waiting on the lord.
Dangote don try. At least employment opportunities go emerge for some people. I just wish FG gave Innoson this same grace and leverage. A technology driven Nigeria for be a game changer.
Good luck to Aliko. Shame on the FG.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by JaredH: 4:31pm On May 24, 2023
Fvck rivers people tongue
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by BennyDGreat: 5:10pm On May 24, 2023
SOSinNigeria:


Yes, it actually happened. In fact, it wasn't the first time they did it against OPM. Pastor Chinyere also built free hospital and school in Aluu, Ikwerre. The community kept harrassing them by demanding all manner of fees. Remember this is a philanthropic gesture for that community, yet they kept demanding money from someone already giving them free education and health care.

Something must be wrong with their reasoning.

This stuff isn't normal....perhaps they are under the influence of some 'spiritual manipulation' that's the only explanation....someone wants to help you...you say he must pay to help you...hahahah

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Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by BennyDGreat: 5:12pm On May 24, 2023
seanfer:

They don’t care about the future of the community, they’re after what they can get from the companies and keep in their pockets.

They have sold their own future. No long term thinking. So sad
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by BennyDGreat: 5:12pm On May 24, 2023
id4sho:


He didn't do again, Dangote might inspire him to change base

They didn't purchase land?
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by sharrp: 5:14pm On May 24, 2023
What happened to Warri
mu2sa2:
In Niger Delta those in authority and their errand boys in the streets and creeks are domestic terrorists (aka militants). The major population centres of ND may eventually suffer the same fate as Warri.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Adabestseason(m): 5:50pm On May 24, 2023
This clearly shows the difference between being educated and carrying certificate.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Jahwinaboy(m): 6:39pm On May 24, 2023
OVB123:
You have hit the nail on the head. Unfortunatelly, it is all the Niger Delta states that are guilty of it.
Not all my guy. What about BUA's refinery in Akwa Ibom. Rivers already have a refinery and is a natural investment hub. So chill. No qualms, regret if dangote refinery is in Lagos. We move
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Jahwinaboy(m): 6:41pm On May 24, 2023
Printerscanner:
They will regret it forever
Regret how? State that don't give a damn about it and still marching on? You guys are funny
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by OceanRed(m): 6:59pm On May 24, 2023
honeyB2018:


Ibifiri Bobmanuel, thank you. In one of my previous posts, I have said, that an investor is not interested in investing in a place where the peace of his investment, will be threatened. When the youths and people of Rivers and other Niger Delta areas, were flexing muscles under the name of militancy and oil, we told them, but the couldn't listen.
When the Northerners were using religion and culture to scare away investors, we said,they never listened. With all the arable land in their possession,no serious investor is looking towards that end.
The people of South East, under the guise of agitation for Biafra, are causing lots insecurity, making investment their, very difficult for big time investors. In the next 10-20 yrs, these agitators, will see the negative effect it will have on the economy of South East.
The people of Lagos State and South West, should be careful, the way,the treat non- Indigenes and potential investors. International community and investors are watching. Dangote is neither a Lagosian, nor a South Westerner, but look at the massive investment in Lagos. When you threaten non- Indigenes, you are threatening investors, no matter the class, every investor,no matter the class, has its contribution to both the IGR and employment within the region or state.
Therefore, Leaders in the South West, especially Lagos State, should be careful in their dealings with potential investors. Learn a lesson from what is happening in other regions.
Oil is been produced from the South-South, but headquarters of the multinationals are here in Lagos.
Think and act wisely.

Lagos is not treating non indigene in any bad way, sw generally is accommodating to non indigene and foreigners, lagos alone has the highest number of foreigners and non indigene . there are non indigene holding political position in lagos same as in civil service!! highest in any state in Nigeria. As long as non indigene do not interfere with internal politics of the state, there will be continuous harmony. buh, the moment a certain group of non indigene take upon themselves to start regarding the host state as a no mans land, and at the same time trying to impose a non desirable political candidate on the state, then they have crossed the thin line between accommodating and hostility!
there are hausas, ijaw, tiv, etc and host of foreign nationals living in harmony in lagos, no one bothers them.
Dangote refinery will not be in lagos today if lagos is treating non indigene badly.

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Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Fembleez1(m): 7:39pm On May 24, 2023
honeyB2018:


Ibifiri Bobmanuel, thank you. In one of my previous posts, I have said, that an investor is not interested in investing in a place where the peace of his investment, will be threatened. When the youths and people of Rivers and other Niger Delta areas, were flexing muscles under the name of militancy and oil, we told them, but the couldn't listen.
When the Northerners were using religion and culture to scare away investors, we said,they never listened. With all the arable land in their possession,no serious investor is looking towards that end.
The people of South East, under the guise of agitation for Biafra, are causing lots insecurity, making investment their, very difficult for big time investors. In the next 10-20 yrs, these agitators, will see the negative effect it will have on the economy of South East.
The people of Lagos State and South West, should be careful, the way,the treat non- Indigenes and potential investors. International community and investors are watching. Dangote is neither a Lagosian, nor a South Westerner, but look at the massive investment in Lagos. When you threaten non- Indigenes, you are threatening investors, no matter the class, every investor,no matter the class, has its contribution to both the IGR and employment within the region or state.
Therefore, Leaders in the South West, especially Lagos State, should be careful in their dealings with potential investors. Learn a lesson from what is happening in other regions.
Oil is been produced from the South-South, but headquarters of the multinationals are here in Lagos.
Think and act wisely.

No one in Lagos had ever threatened investors, sir. Why is so it hard for you to desist from intruding in local politics? If the South-West was threatening investors, no one will sell land to them. Please always be objective in your analysis. Do not let the Obi or the last election becloud your judgment sir.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by seanfer(m): 8:41pm On May 24, 2023
PROPEACE:

Guy are you serious about the OPM talk? The attitude of SS people is strange.

Yes. If you have anybody in Okrika you can ask. Except the person will not want to say the truth.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Paretomaster1(m): 8:54pm On May 24, 2023
post=123335247:

Thunder locate you there for mentioning Anambra, anu can you compare your backward State with Anambra on investment

Thunder locate you and your family.... Anambra is the worse when it comes to touts, and jobless youths...

Go get a life..
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Paretomaster1(m): 8:56pm On May 24, 2023
seanfer:


Anambra is the worst, they will beat and injure the driver.

Thank you, one mofo up there is deceiving himself.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by bionixs: 9:20pm On May 24, 2023
georgeakins:


You're bitter because Dangote is not from your tribe. I know you're Ibo. Bitterness runs in your DNA
TRIBE KILL YOU THERE ! IBO KILL YOU THERE !

Imagine! This is how you all have destroyed this country with tribalism ! Fools and tools in the hands of obnoxious politicians!
Since Uzodimma my brother and Ikpeazu became governors , what have we become?

Rochas Okorocha should go to the poll with Akinwumi Adesina or Prof Zulum and see who ibos will vote. When you associate igbos with tribalism I always ask , how much of investment have your people made outside Yoruba land ? Who are the bigots here ? Ike Ekweremadu my brother messed up and went to Germany and my ibo brothers beat him silly. Will you try it ? Should you be the one , you will start ranting about age and respect. Forget getting that even fool grow old and respect in ibo land is earned, not given

MKO won an election and the entire Enugu, Anambra etc were shutdown! My father and those in my area partied all day.

Once again , TRIBE AND IBO KILL YOU THERE. Mumu
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by juman(m): 9:23pm On May 24, 2023
Tinubu is good hand.
He will do very well.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Enemyofpeace: 6:04am On May 25, 2023
Goldymafia:
God forbid I can never dream to be a bigot from a poor region, compare to my rich Niger delta so bless with good states...
liar
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Goldymafia: 3:16pm On May 25, 2023
Enemyofpeace:
liar
liar as how...wetin dey SW na only Lagos, they SW wetin they Ondo, ekiti,osun,Oyo, ilorin...compare to SS state
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Cantonese: 3:52pm On May 25, 2023
BRIMBRAM:
"Asiwaju of Nigeria" was how Dangote kept calling Buhari's successor who the people of Rivers State massively voted for in the last election.

The people of Rivers State know how to chase you to either fortunes or misfortune. As for Dangote, he is fortunate and he has the people of Rivers State to also thank for their thoughtful action for chasing him to more fortunes.

But as for Peter Obi who Dangote did not even mention just once, grin and who the people of Rivers State chased out of the race ensuring that he and his Master Atiku do not get into Aso Rock with their votes. I want to say, Rivers State will continue to be a great blessing to Nigeria.

It is good to always support people who are born to always be successful in anything they touch, like Dangote like Tinubu, and not born failures like Atiku like Peter Obi.

Once again, thank you the People of Rivers state. Prosperity will be your reward. The kind of prosperity which is so abundant that those wishing to suffer for the next 4/8 years will not be ashamed to come and beg from you.

Born failures, yet one was Vice President and the other governor?
Born failures, yet very successful in their respective endeavors employing thousands of Nigerians, with very respected educational qualifications?
Born failures, yet their generations unborn will never know poverty?
Born failures, yet born into wealth?

You Mr. born well, yet a complete NFA.
Born well yet a complete nobody.
Born well yet a non starter in life.
Born well yet beg to put food on your table.
Born well yet still getting school fees.

Your likes find it hard to make it in life.
Shior!
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 9:38pm On May 25, 2023
Fembleez1:


No one in Lagos had ever threatened investors, sir. Why is so it hard for you to desist from intruding in local politics? If the South-West was threatening investors, no one will sell land to them. Please always be objective in your analysis. Do not let the Obi or the last election becloud your judgment sir.

You are the one beclouded by sentiment here.
South West, is in Nigeria and bound by the constitution of Nigeria. By our constitution, every Nigerian has the right to vote and be voted for, where he or she resides. Every Nigerian, who resides in the South West, has the right to mingle with the politics of the region, just as any Yoruba man/woman,who resides outside the South West, has the right also. When you threaten Nigerians, resident in Lagos State, not to vote and ask them to go to their state of origin to vote, but you will not ask them to go to their state of origin to pay their taxes and rents, what do you call that?
The fact is that you don't know that international community and investors are watching.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Nwaetche(m): 10:27pm On May 25, 2023
This is not true.

The Abam Royal House of Abam Ama Okrika released a media notice debunking this misleading statement. It was just a misunderstanding and please kindly disregard!

Press Release

Omega Power Ministries, OPM decision to stop their Free School and other Humanitarian Services in Okrika, a cause of misinformation and breach in communication between the Resident Pastor and the General Overseer of the Church.
It is important to put the records straight on the impasse between the General Overseer of Omega Power Ministries and the Abam Ama Community.

In the meeting were the Chairman, Abam Royal House, Sample Orupabo, Prince Soala Tobins, Hon. Paul Abam, The representative of the GO from OPM's Headquarters, who serves as the Head of Church Planting, Growth Committee and also serves as the supervisor of Free School and Humanitarian Services, Elder Olokoh, the resident Pastor, Pst. Zubby, Elder Iyeneomi Elymas, Elder Elvis, Elder Lewis Abam, Chairman Abam Ama Land Committee, the landlord, Mr. Joel Tamuno Ayika and Amb Napoleon Jumbo Spiff.

It was discovered that, the community did not stop the project, in course of putting community assets and documentation, the community was informed that, the said parcel of land was sold to the ministry, while the landlord and the Church told the community the land is on lease. The Community said it is against the community norm to sell or lease lands in Abam Ama, hence the Community called on the resident Pastor to clear with the Chairman within 7 days, so that the community and the ministry will have a clear understanding of the status of the parcel of land. The statements both from the Chairman and the resident Pastor didn't state any sort of stopping the Ministry's Programme in Okrika.

We equally spoke with the GO who agreed that all the wrong insinuations placed on Social Media will be PULLED DOWN, then the Leadership of the Community, the Ministry and the Landlord will take a day to reconvene and put things in the right perspective for the smooth running of the programmes.

We also got a copy of the letter written to the Ministry and the response of the GO, which does not bear any stopping of the Ministry's lofty programme in Okrika.

This is to let the General Public know the true position of the OPM's Free School and Humanitarian Programmes in Okrika, that at no time was the programme stopped for any reason. It is a simple itch in communication between the resident Pastor and the GO, and a wrong signal was sent to the public which has in no small measure dented the image of Okrika in the media space. The media report is not correct.

For emphasis; THE MEDIA REPORT THAT ABAM ROYAL HOUSE/OKRIKA STOPPED OPM'S FREE SCHOOL AND HUMANITARIAN PROGRAMMES IN OKRIKA IS NOT CORRECT.




PROPEACE:

Guy are you serious about the OPM talk? The attitude of SS people is strange.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Fembleez1(m): 12:36am On May 26, 2023
honeyB2018:


You are the one beclouded by sentiment here.
South West, is in Nigeria and bound by the constitution of Nigeria. By our constitution, every Nigerian has the right to vote and be voted for, where he or she resides. Every Nigerian, who resides in the South West, has the right to mingle with the politics of the region, just as any Yoruba man/woman,who resides outside the South West, has the right also. When you threaten Nigerians, resident in Lagos State, not to vote and ask them to go to their state of origin to vote, but you will not ask them to go to their state of origin to pay their taxes and rents, what do you call that?
The fact is that you don't know that international community and investors are watching.

Yes. I know. The typical Igbo man who only interprets things to suit himself. Nobody forced you to do business in Lagos. Hence, you can go back to your state and pay taxes and rent there. You can petition the International Community and Investors to go to South East to invest. No one is stopping them. Please let go of the hatred. You have to associate with others and stop all this hatred and propaganda. We are supposed to have moved passed the 1960s, I mean as a young generation, we should be moving this country forward, but you guys are hell-bent on the hate theory. You play tribal politics amongst even people who are Igbos from other South-East states and want to Lord over people who accommodate you or where you do business. The same Tinubu you guys hate was the first person to grant you guys a seat at the House of Assembly, and so many other things he did for Igbos in Lagos that I will not talk about presently. Please, Nigeria is not like the USA where anyone can be elected to any political position irrespective of their State of Origin. Nigeria is not ripe for that sort of democracy yet, especially when you guys are calling to have a Biafra Country. I mean that agitation in itself speaks volumes.

I beg you once more, let go of the hatred and arrogance you have toward other tribes. We cannot move this country forward if we are stuck in the past. Thanks and have a good night's rest.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Caseless: 4:19am On May 26, 2023
Okwyjesus:
Hostility here is something else. Rivers people are destroying bussines here through their hostility. Even the Governor is not exempted

Warri should serve as a lesson to them
The whole of Southsouth and southeast is hostile to business and outsiders. Their communities feel their giving you access to heaven,so you must worship them. Everybody will want to bill you. I don't know what the trucks coming to load would have been subjected to if this was situated in any southeastern or southsouthern state.

South west remain the best place for investment in the whole of southern Nigeria.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by maasoap(m): 7:12am On May 26, 2023
GeneralPula:
But the amount of pushback and demands that were from the state government at that time, obviously, left them with no other option but to go and situate the business at a location where they were welcomed.”

Some state government are just problems. Wooing investors is a task every state must be good at! If you can not successfully woo a local investor, how then would you be able to woo foreign investor? What if another investor wants to build refinery tomorrow?

They can do better!

Sometimes, you wonder if some elected people (govs) who are considered educated and wise are actually smart at all! Dangote refinery was rejected by Ondo state government, by Ogun state government and we're just hearing that it was also rejected by Rivers state government too! All of them were simply looking at their immediate gains instead of the long term benefits, they were primarily concerned about stuffing their own pockets instead of the benefits of such huge investment to their state residents.
What a shame!

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Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 12:45pm On May 26, 2023
Fembleez1:


Yes. I know. The typical Igbo man who only interprets things to suit himself. Nobody forced you to do business in Lagos. Hence, you can go back to your state and pay taxes and rent there. You can petition the International Community and Investors to go to South East to invest. No one is stopping them. Please let go of the hatred. You have to associate with others and stop all this hatred and propaganda. We are supposed to have moved passed the 1960s, I mean as a young generation, we should be moving this country forward, but you guys are hell-bent on the hate theory. You play tribal politics amongst even people who are Igbos from other South-East states and want to Lord over people who accommodate you or where you do business. The same Tinubu you guys hate was the first person to grant you guys a seat at the House of Assembly, and so many other things he did for Igbos in Lagos that I will not talk about presently. Please, Nigeria is not like the USA where anyone can be elected to any political position irrespective of their State of Origin. Nigeria is not ripe for that sort of democracy yet, especially when you guys are calling to have a Biafra Country. I mean that agitation in itself speaks volumes.

I beg you once more, let go of the hatred and arrogance you have toward other tribes. We cannot move this country forward if we are stuck in the past. Thanks and have a good night's rest.


Your case is the case of a pot, calling the kettle black.
I want to tell you, that apart from the Hausas, who are adventurers like the IGBOS, no tribe interacts with people like the IGBOS, which is the reason, you see the IGBOS in every nook and cranny of this nation, so it's disappointing when people like you, will tell a highly mobile tribe like the IGBOS, unlike you and your Yoruba people, who sees the nation only from the prism of your region, to learn how to interact with people.
It a shame, that people like you and your Yoruba people should be telling the IGBOS of playing tribal politics, I keep wondering, if really you know your history. Check your record of politics in Nigeria after the independence, you have always been in the opposition, even from 1999, till 2015, when you introduced sectional politics that saw G. E. J out of power. Before 2015, where were the Yorubas in the national politics of Nigeria?
For your information, my post was that your leaders should learn from what has happened to other regions and comport themselves in the most reasonable manner, to avoid the same mistake.
People of the South East, for now are still Nigerians, and have the right, to reside anywhere in Nigeria, vote and be voted for, without harassment from any quarters, but anyone whoso wishes can relocate, no qualms with that but not by compulsion, as you in your little mind and brain, will want people to believe.
You are talking about a New Nigeria, and letting go the past misdeeds, have you ever asked yourself, if there's any attempt to address the misdemeanor of the past, to halt the agitation? You are talking about letting go the past,can there be peace without justice?
IGBOS don't hate Tinubu as a person, but some of the behind the scene statements and actions, been perpetrated to look as if the IGBOS are loved, but it's a Greek gift.
Did you hear what Remi Tinubu said against the IGBOS, before 2023 elections? If such could come out from her, what do you think goes on in the bedroom?
IGBOS, neither hate Tinubu nor the Omoluabis of Yoruba land, but treacherous attitude of pretending to love me in the public, but hate me in the private, which is more dangerous
2023 elections in Lagos, brought out that indwelling hatred for the IGBOS. This is the point.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by Fembleez1(m): 4:43pm On May 26, 2023
honeyB2018:



Your case is the case of a pot, calling the kettle black.
I want to tell you, that apart from the Hausas, who are adventurers like the IGBOS, no tribe interacts with people like the IGBOS, which is the reason, you see the IGBOS in every nook and cranny of this nation, so it's disappointing when people like you, will tell a highly mobile tribe like the IGBOS, unlike you and your Yoruba people, who sees the nation only from the prism of your region, to learn how to interact with people.
It a shame, that people like you and your Yoruba people should be telling the IGBOS of playing tribal politics, I keep wondering, if really you know your history. Check your record of politics in Nigeria after the independence, you have always been in the opposition, even from 1999, till 2015, when you introduced sectional politics that saw G. E. J out of power. Before 2015, where were the Yorubas in the national politics of Nigeria?
For your information, my post was that your leaders should learn from what has happened to other regions and comport themselves in the most reasonable manner, to avoid the same mistake.
People of the South East, for now are still Nigerians, and have the right, to reside anywhere in Nigeria, vote and be voted for, without harassment from any quarters, but anyone whoso wishes can relocate, no qualms with that but not by compulsion, as you in your little mind and brain, will want people to believe.
You are talking about a New Nigeria, and letting go the past misdeeds, have you ever asked yourself, if there's any attempt to address the misdemeanor of the past, to halt the agitation? You are talking about letting go the past,can there be peace without justice?
IGBOS don't hate Tinubu as a person, but some of the behind the scene statements and actions, been perpetrated to look as if the IGBOS are loved, but it's a Greek gift.
Did you hear what Remi Tinubu said against the IGBOS, before 2023 elections? If such could come out from her, what do you think goes on in the bedroom?
IGBOS, neither hate Tinubu nor the Omoluabis of Yoruba land, but treacherous attitude of pretending to love me in the public, but hate me in the private, which is more dangerous
2023 elections in Lagos, brought out that indwelling hatred for the IGBOS. This is the point.

I choose to ignore your calling me a "little mind and small brain." I know you are being emotional already like every Igbo man will be. When other people are civil, you throw the insult and when people reply with the same dose, you start the blackmail game. I believe you all claim to be the most educated tribe in Nigeria but you can't converse without insult. Mehn, such an irony!!!

I would have replied with whatever rocks your boat sir. But my saying still goes that do not be arrogant. A Yoruba man will never say publicly they want to take your land from you and throw your king into the Lagoon. They will never call your state NO MAN's LAND. Why would a Yoruba man want to go to where there is no love? If your region and state Governors were working, you lot will not be leaving in droves to Yoruba land. It is not by force a person must migrate out of their land. Yorubas are not like you guys. And you talk about interactions. The most accommodating people are the Yorubas because they can interact with people of various tribes but still end up minding their own business.

No one pretends to love you in public than Igbos, but hate you passionately at your back. If you put 10 Yoruba people in a spot and ask them to pick between two choices. There is a likelihood you will get 60/40 or 70/30 or 50/50 results. But with 10 Igbo people in the same situation, you'll definitely get a 90/10 or 100/0 result.

You keep saying we must right the injustice done to Igbos. What Injustice Do you not rever a bright mind like Prof. Soludo? He has called out to you people to stop putting all eggs in one basket. But you people will not listen. Politics is a game of strategy. You have to build alliances and negotiate for power. No one can become president in Nigeria without negotiating power with other regions. But you lot always go One party or One Candidate, 90 to 100%. And that will always fetch you nothing.

If you want me to go through history with you, then you will definitely get a beating. Because I am going to educate you on the Bolded above, from 1953 till date. And I am going to let you know you Igbos and your past leaders you rever and still worship so much are the cause of what you face today. To be more blunt. You Igbos are the cause of why Nigeria is what it is today. You are the reason why you can not have the Biafra Republic. You are the reason why States are not in control of their resources. You are the reason why the Federal Government is so powerful. You are the reason why we are not practicing true Federalism or a Federal system of Government like the U.S. Please if you want me to go into history with you on that, let me know. I will look for a time to reveal the truth to you and curse the person who removed history from the Nigerian Education curriculum.

On a related note, I have had good interactions with Igbos right from my whole life in Lagos, through my elementary to Secondary School, and my University. And when I stayed in Enugu while a kid and Ebonyi while I was of reason. I have had good Igbo friends and their parents who love me so much and always prefer their sons interact/roll with me. In fact, these people always come to look for me whenever I do not come around and ask my Grannies why it has been a long time since they saw me. These are the finest and the purest Igbos I have met in my life, and I do not regret still having them as friends. But the way some of you came out in the last election is trying to corrupt my good fellow when I was very in support of Obi right till the election. In fact, I clamour for Igbo presidency or that Nigeria should let you guys leave.

So, sir, I will say again, let love lead. Let us raise kids in love that Nigeria is One and one day we will get it right. And let us build alliances for a better tomorrow.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 8:16am On May 27, 2023
Fembleez1:


I choose to ignore your calling me a "little mind and small brain." I know you are being emotional already like every Igbo man will be. When other people are civil, you throw the insult and when people reply with the same dose, you start the blackmail game. I believe you all claim to be the most educated tribe in Nigeria but you can't converse without insult. Mehn, such an irony!!!

I would have replied with whatever rocks your boat sir. But my saying still goes that do not be arrogant. A Yoruba man will never say publicly they want to take your land from you and throw your king into the Lagoon. They will never call your state NO MAN's LAND. Why would a Yoruba man want to go to where there is no love? If your region and state Governors were working, you lot will not be leaving in droves to Yoruba land. It is not by force a person must migrate out of their land. Yorubas are not like you guys. And you talk about interactions. The most accommodating people are the Yorubas because they can interact with people of various tribes but still end up minding their own business.

No one pretends to love you in public than Igbos, but hate you passionately at your back. If you put 10 Yoruba people in a spot and ask them to pick between two choices. There is a likelihood you will get 60/40 or 70/30 or 50/50 results. But with 10 Igbo people in the same situation, you'll definitely get a 90/10 or 100/0 result.

You keep saying we must right the injustice done to Igbos. What Injustice Do you not rever a bright mind like Prof. Soludo? He has called out to you people to stop putting all eggs in one basket. But you people will not listen. Politics is a game of strategy. You have to build alliances and negotiate for power. No one can become president in Nigeria without negotiating power with other regions. But you lot always go One party or One Candidate, 90 to 100%. And that will always fetch you nothing.

If you want me to go through history with you, then you will definitely get a beating. Because I am going to educate you on the Bolded above, from 1953 till date. And I am going to let you know you Igbos and your past leaders you rever and still worship so much are the cause of what you face today. To be more blunt. You Igbos are the cause of why Nigeria is what it is today. You are the reason why you can not have the Biafra Republic. You are the reason why States are not in control of their resources. You are the reason why the Federal Government is so powerful. You are the reason why we are not practicing true Federalism or a Federal system of Government like the U.S. Please if you want me to go into history with you on that, let me know. I will look for a time to reveal the truth to you and curse the person who removed history from the Nigerian Education curriculum.

On a related note, I have had good interactions with Igbos right from my whole life in Lagos, through my elementary to Secondary School, and my University. And when I stayed in Enugu while a kid and Ebonyi while I was of reason. I have had good Igbo friends and their parents who love me so much and always prefer their sons interact/roll with me. In fact, these people always come to look for me whenever I do not come around and ask my Grannies why it has been a long time since they saw me. These are the finest and the purest Igbos I have met in my life, and I do not regret still having them as friends. But the way some of you came out in the last election is trying to corrupt my good fellow when I was very in support of Obi right till the election. In fact, I clamour for Igbo presidency or that Nigeria should let you guys leave.

So, sir, I will say again, let love lead. Let us raise kids in love that Nigeria is One and one day we will get it right. And let us build alliances for a better tomorrow.



What ever decision you make out of my choice of words, is your business not mine. My post initially, was advisory, especially to the people and leaders of South West, not to toe the part of destruction that other regions, including my own region have chosen.
I even said that the people of my region, the South East, will reap the fruit of their action in the next 10-20yrs, showing I was liberal in my post, before your tribal sentiments came up.
I'm surprised, you are accusing the people of South East, of lack of respect, full of insult, emotional and blackmailing, like I said earlier, it's another case of a pot calling a kittle black. Do I need to remind you and some of you of how disrespectful, sentimental and tribalistic that you are? You love to give to others, what you cannot take and expect from other, what you cannot give. Go to social media platforms, look at responses from a Yoruba man and judge for yourself, let me take you back to pre- 2015 elections, what kind of innuendos wasn't thrown at President G. E. J, by your people, even from those who are highly read and respected as leaders in Yoruba land. E.g Tinubu, Fashola, Bisi Akande, Olu False etc.
I have live about 50% of my life in the South West, though as an Igboman, within this period, I have met very good, loving, kind and wonderful people of Yoruba extraction, who I respect till date, in my post, I called them the OMOLUABIS. God bless them, for the sake of these people, I will not cast a blind blanket on all Yorubas, just as you can say about the IGBOS, and what is the lesson here?
In every society, there are different shades of people, it will be too wrong to cast everyone from a section of the society as been bad or good. Everyone, should be taken on their merit. For the sake of these Omoluabis, I tune down my tempo.
I have been privileged to go round the entire South West region, by God's grace, I have never seen anywhere, an Igboman call anywhere in Yoruba land, a NO MAN'S LAND. Rather, this is just a phrase used by some Omo Eshu in Yoruba land to cast aspersions on the IGBOS, give them a bad name, to showcase their hatred for the IGBOS. I have never seen anywhere, where an Igboman, said they will throw any traditional ruler in the South West, into the Lagoon, rather it was one of your traditional rulers that threatened to throw a whole tribe, into the Lagoon, if his candidate wasn't voted for. As God will have it, what is the position of the traditional ruler and that his candidate in the politics of Lagos today? How can you say IGBOS said Yoruba land is a NO MAN'S LAND, when there are people who you buy lands from and the family issues you a receipt?
The hatred some Yorubas have for the IGBOS, didn't start today, it has been an age long thing, that manifested in the last elections. I have lived here in the South West, I have moved in the midst of the people of South West, I have eaten their food, drank their water, move into their secret meetings, I can tell you for free, that the hatred is real and not imaginary, forget about the cosmetic approach out side. As a young man in the South West, I have been denied lots of things, like employment, accomodations, good pay because of my tribe, here in the South West, years before this elections, so you cannot tell me any shit about accommodating people and interactions within the South West.
There's this question, that I have always asked people of the South West, which no one has answered me, this is it. If the IGBOS in Lagos are disrespectful, boastful, mingling with the Local politics hence the attacks on them, then what was the offense of the Hausa/Fulani against the Yorubas in 2003, during the era of Tinubu as governor of Lagos State, that brought about the massacre of the Hausas here in Lagos State then?, in a region that is accommodative and interacts well with other people? It then means, something is wrong somewhere.
You can't be full of yourself,hatred, innuendos with other tribes and fight against anything you think that doesn't favor you and claim to be interactive and accommodating, this is the height of deceit.
As per the condition that Nigeria has found itself, that has made the center more powerful than the regions, I'm at loss, as to how this can come from you. I know where you are headed. But be true to your self. What brought about the civil war and what was the Yoruba connection to it?
Go do your research and be truthful to yourself with your findings.
You talked about Proff. Charles Soludo. Soludo is respected Igboman and leader, but he spoke as a politician. He has contested election into been the governor of Anambra State before under PDP, ask him, why he moved to APGA this time? Why did he fail before. APGA, has been ruling Anambra State now close to 20yrs. If IGBO are not putting their eggs in one basket, how could he have won? He had a candidate before the elections, aside the popular candidate from the South East. Having spoken as a politician, we will not listen to him. If he spoke as a statesmen, we will. He had interest that couldn't be accommodated within the South East political spectrum, hence no one will hear him
You talked about my governors not working hard for the development of the region, here again, I begin to look at your Sense of reasoning. For a region that lost about 3m souls, have their economy destroyed, without any practical steps taken to rebuild it till now, people are just talking about the 2nd Niger Bridge, after how many years after the end of the war? yet you can talk about it in this way.
By the way, which state in the South West, can be said to be developed aside Lagos State?
Are Yorubas from other states not trooping down to Lagos, for greener pastures, if your region is so developed? Despite not fighting any war and you think Yoruba land is more developed. Ekiti, the capital of Ekiti state, is like a glorified local government headquarters, I have been there.
You talked about love leading. You don't understand who an Igboman is, Incase you don't know, an Igboman is a builder, hence you see them build homes away from their home, feel free with his hosts and environment. Igboman is a lover of the nation called Nigeria, but his investment in this entity called Nigeria, has never been reciprocated and encouraging, hence the agitation
If you know who an Igboman is, you will understand that an Igboman is a serious competitor, who thrives on an environment, where there's a level ground. The unleveled ground upon which the Igboman is operating in this entity called Nigeria, is not giving him hope of bequeathing to his generation, a society that he call his nation, hence the agitation
How do you want an Igboman, to tell his generation next, that once upon a time in Lagos State, Yoruba land, he was prevented from exercising his civic responsibility, because he was an Igboman, nothing more than that?
How do you tell any Igboman, to believe in a nation, where his personal efforts and hussles and properties are destroyed in a land that is not his, because he's an Igboman, not a foreigner?
These are the issue, you and your people have to address.
After this, I will not respond to your post anymore, it adds no value to me. Bye.
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 8:59am On May 27, 2023
OceanRed:


Lagos is not treating non indigene in any bad way, sw generally is accommodating to non indigene and foreigners, lagos alone has the highest number of foreigners and non indigene . there are non indigene holding political position in lagos same as in civil service!! highest in any state in Nigeria. As long as non indigene do not interfere with internal politics of the state, there will be continuous harmony. buh, the moment a certain group of non indigene take upon themselves to start regarding the host state as a no mans land, and at the same time trying to impose a non desirable political candidate on the state, then they have crossed the thin line between accommodating and hostility!
there are hausas, ijaw, tiv, etc and host of foreign nationals living in harmony in lagos, no one bothers them.
Dangote refinery will not be in lagos today if lagos is treating non indigene badly.


You continue to get things in the wrong way.
What do you mean by not entangling in local politics and you say it's safe?
Is Lagos State, not part of Nigeria? Is Lagos State, not bound by the constitution of Nigeria? Didn't the Nigerian constitution guarantees every Nigerian the right to vote and be voted for? The right to live in any part of Nigeria and be law abiding?
Are their no Nigerians of Yoruba extraction, who live in the UK, USA, who contest and win elections there? Why will it be seen as an aberration in Nigeria and in South West, if a non indigene offers himself in Lagos and anywhere in Nigeria for service to a community, where he has spent more than half of his life aside the state of his origin?
Just tell me that I'm not a Nigerian, so that I can understand my position. No Nigerian is for whatever reason is offering his services to anywhere in Ghana in an elective position. It's understood. He's a foreigner. When you tell me, not to mingle in the local politics, but you can canvass me to vote for you in an elections, ask me to go for my voters card, give me your campaign souvenirs, yet I can't decide who rules me, are you not calling me a foreigner and an Idiot?
If you want to copy others, copy well, if you follow others follow well and not half hearted.
You said Lagos has been fairly good for non indigenes, and investors, understand that investors are in categories, no matter your level, when your place of business, is constantly under attack, what do you call that? When there's constant fire out break and laws are been slammed on you from all quarters, what do you call that? Agberos, with government approval are constituting serious nuisance, what do you call that?. Have you taken a look at the containers and their nuisances on the road? What is the cause and you said it has been fair. Ok
Haven't you heard of investors in Lagos State, complaining of different kinds of tax regime and harassment here and there?
My post, was advisory, like I said, there, the North is reaping there own now, religion, culture, kidnapping, banditry, has taken a toll on their development.
South East, is trailing behind South- South, due to insecurity.
It's left to the people of South West especially Lagos State, to know who to treat non- indigenes. A careful look at investment now in the South West, is gradually shifting to Ogun State, this is what we're talking about
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by OceanRed(m): 3:13pm On May 27, 2023
honeyB2018:



You continue to get things in the wrong way.
What do you mean by not entangling in local politics and you say it's safe?
Is Lagos State, not part of Nigeria? Is Lagos State, not bound by the constitution of Nigeria? Didn't the Nigerian constitution guarantees every Nigerian the right to vote and be voted for? The right to live in any part of Nigeria and be law abiding?
Are their no Nigerians of Yoruba extraction, who live in the UK, USA, who contest and win elections there? Why will it be seen as an aberration in Nigeria and in South West, if a non indigene offers himself in Lagos and anywhere in Nigeria for service to a community, where he has spent more than half of his life aside the state of his origin?
Just tell me that I'm not a Nigerian, so that I can understand my position. No Nigerian is for whatever reason is offering his services to anywhere in Ghana in an elective position. It's understood. He's a foreigner. When you tell me, not to mingle in the local politics, but you can canvass me to vote for you in an elections, ask me to go for my voters card, give me your campaign souvenirs, yet I can't decide who rules me, are you not calling me a foreigner and an Idiot?
If you want to copy others, copy well, if you follow others follow well and not half hearted.
You said Lagos has been fairly good for non indigenes, and investors, understand that investors are in categories, no matter your level, when your place of business, is constantly under attack, what do you call that? When there's constant fire out break and laws are been slammed on you from all quarters, what do you call that? Agberos, with government approval are constituting serious nuisance, what do you call that?. Have you taken a look at the containers and their nuisances on the road? What is the cause and you said it has been fair. Ok
Haven't you heard of investors in Lagos State, complaining of different kinds of tax regime and harassment here and there?
My post, was advisory, like I said, there, the North is reaping there own now, religion, culture, kidnapping, banditry, has taken a toll on their development.
South East, is trailing behind South- South, due to insecurity.
It's left to the people of South West especially Lagos State, to know who to treat non- indigenes. A careful look at investment now in the South West, is gradually shifting to Ogun State, this is what we're talking about

well said, like i said earlier on, lag has been open to non indigenes since Nigeria independence, it still does, no qualms. The recent squabble between the yoruba and indigbo in lagos was political in origin, twas due majorly to clashing of politicalinterest between the both tribes. the indigbo's choice of gubernatorial candidate was a no no for a state like Lagos. Now election is over and things are gradually returning back to normal, im sure there will be positive changes in other aspect you mentioned. peace
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by honeyB2018: 11:41pm On May 27, 2023
OceanRed:


well said, like i said earlier on, lag has been open to non indigenes since Nigeria independence, it still does, no qualms. The recent squabble between the yoruba and indigbo in lagos was political in origin, twas due majorly to clashing of politicalinterest between the both tribes. the indigbo's choice of gubernatorial candidate was a no no for a state like Lagos. Now election is over and things are gradually returning back to normal, im sure there will be positive changes in other aspect you mentioned. peace

It's an indelible mark, it's like the incident that took place after the war, where the IGBOS were given £20 of your money, irrespective of how much they have in the bank, till now, it's still fresh in our minds. So is the issue of this 2023. It will stink for a long time
Re: Refineries: How Dangote Group Was Chased Away From Rivers – Bobmanuel by OceanRed(m): 11:25am On May 28, 2023
honeyB2018:


It's an indelible mark, it's like the incident that took place after the war, where the IGBOS were given £20 of your money, irrespective of how much they have in the bank, till now, it's still fresh in our minds. So is the issue of this 2023. It will stink for a long time

all shall fade bro, all shall fade trust me !

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