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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 3:51pm On Jun 16, 2023
keymatt:
Why you are you disgracing yourself my dear agbado supporter? grin Don't you know it's embarrassing? 🤣
Prof was not there as a witness to state who won or loss the election. He was there to defend his profession as a mathematician. 😎

His analysis was watery.the apc lawyers saw from the analysis that tinubu won so there wanted him to admit,ye refused
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by princekwi: 3:52pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


It is not enough.you must compare it with other copies.the electoral act in section 64 states that when collating,a collation officer must cross-check with other copies.therefore,you cannot depend on irev which the supreme court sees as secondary evidence

LP also has some aces in that aspect, those testifying so far has proven that what they saw is not what INEC announced, game on, let's see how it goes, I see a total disgrace and INEC and the Mahmood go Emefiele way soon. If PO can't do it, his vice is a mean and no nonsense man

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 3:52pm On Jun 16, 2023
MichaelSokoto:

Baba, does dis 94% something indicate dat INEC as successfully transmitted d full results?
grin

94% is more than substantial enough sir.there is no perfect election anyway
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 3:53pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Not true.that is not what it states.the only difference is obi won rivers and benue but other states are same except for the blurred results
I like the fact you apc rats have come to agree that Obi won Benue which I said in March. Your claim then was that APC deceived Benue people that Father Alia's election was held in Feb 25 which I replied that it's a mighty ridiculous lie.
So, Tinubu actually won 10 states instead of 12 as was being bandied. If PDP are as meticulous as labour, they can actually prove he did not win some states in the North especially Jigawa.
But besides that, statistically, it's impossible for someone to win 10 out of 36 states and still be declared winner if some abracadabra is not involved. I'm beginning to believe the results were actually rigged based on this court session.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 3:53pm On Jun 16, 2023
sogodihno:



Just shvt up! Did Peter obi get significant votes from SW?

The only way to win without NE and NW is to get overwhelming votes in all the south and NC
Lagos is not SW?

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 3:54pm On Jun 16, 2023
princekwi:


LP also has some aces in that aspect, those testifying so far has proven that what they saw is not what INEC announced, game on, let's see how it goes, I see a total disgrace and INEC and the Mahmood go Emefiele way soon. If PO can't do it, his vice is a mean and no nonsense man

Their own calculation and what inec calculated still shows apc won so there are wasting their time.nobody is getting disgraced except obi

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by keymatt(m): 3:56pm On Jun 16, 2023
ogunijebu18:
Igbos are slaves
Say it loud 🔊 without tears 😭 grin

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Geopex(m): 3:56pm On Jun 16, 2023
princekwi:


Then it's left for INEC to prove that what's in the IREV is not a reflection of the physical result,if they can't prove it, then the judges has no option but to rule with the evidence provided by LP that the result is blurred and hence faulty

Bcuz the irev one is blurred, so the original one from polling units used to collate is also blurred? Dey deceived una self. Faulty ko, fortress ni

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 3:57pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


And later he recanted meaning he doesn't know about irev
Do you know what recant means

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 3:58pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Actually irev does not collate but stores results or is a collection or storage of results except you don't know what collation is.rigging in benue and rivers is insignificant so no need to bother
Do you know what it means to collate?
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by IamV: 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2023
IamV:


This is the Tribune Newspaper of 23rd February 2023.
INEC RIGHTLY noted that RAW FIGURES won't be transmitted of election results
.

PLEASE DOES IT MEAN INEC SAID THEY WILL NOT TRANSMIT PICTURES OF ELECTION RESULTS DIRECTLY FROM POLLING UNIT?

UPDATED;!

HERE'S A LINK TO THE FULL TEXT ;

https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/#:~:text=Infact%2C%20the%20law%20does%20not,a%20long%20period%20of%20time

Going through the content of the news,you will get that it's written that the results won't be transmitted in RAW figures like [ APC 23 ,LP 45 ,PDP 53] from the polling unit,not the nonsense their legal team are trying to claim in court
INEC just succeeded in scoring an own goal.

people that might need further explanation about the content of this news INEC wanted to smuggle into evidence today ?
If great number of persons show interest,I will be creating a thread to such effect and drop the link in this thread.

In summary about the content of the news ;
INEC said they wouldn't transmit raw figures like Kenya did in 2015, but they would upload result images [form EC8A] to a portal.

"RAW FIGURES" here means just the number of votes.
For instance,in a polling unit,LP got total of 23 votes,APC got total of 34 votes ,PDP got total of 75 votes etc.
INEC claimed the results won't be transmitted by those "raw figures " like, transmitting only the number of votes each party got,but rather everything would be captured as an image [from form EC8A] and uploaded in real time.

I'm honestly still surprised how none of
the respondents legal teams couldn't figure that out.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2023
Kukutenla:

I like the fact you apc rats have come to agree that Obi won Benue which I said in March. Your claim then was that APC deceived Benue people that Father Alia's election was held in Feb 25 which I replied that it's a mighty ridiculous lie.
So, Tinubu actually won 10 states instead of 12 as was being bandied. If PDP are as meticulous as labour, they can actually prove he did not win some states in the North especially Jigawa.
But besides that, statistically, it's impossible for someone to win 10 out of 36 states and still be declared winner if some abracadabra is not involved. I'm beginning to believe the results were actually rigged based on this court session.

Obi won benue- by 20,000 votes according to irev which is useless afterall tinubu won him by 8000 going by inec.
Unfortunately,atiku is not claiming any state tinubu won unlike obi.he is only claiming irregularities and blurred results...

It is statistically possible to win with even 5 states and this is why you guys lost.you don't know how to win elections.you are looking at merely winning states while tinubu is looking at margins.you can win 30 states with narrow margins with me getting above 25% while I win 6 states massively by 95% and above.thevlaw says get the highest votes and spread.the key is margin not number of states won.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by MichaelSokoto(m): 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


No.he actually confessed that lp commissioned him to analyse and collate the results using irev.it is the real thing
"Analyse and collate using irev" is different from, "here prof, dis is our results gotten from our pu agents, do the honors for us"

dats why we shld follow dis case 4 back to knw wats up
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


They have submitted agent result without analysing it to the court.tjey only dumped it.the law is that you must not just show manipulation but show how it affected the entire results
So senatordave knows the law more than over 7 SANs representing LP,comedian

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by princekwi: 4:01pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Their own calculation and what inec calculated still shows apc won so there are wasting their time.nobody is getting disgraced except obi

Hahhahaha, calculation with blurred result in which planet? Nigeria is a joke, their unprofessionalsm is too childish even to kindergarten level,even a lay man knows that PO won the election, the sudden announcement of the winner in the midnight is suspicious, and the refusal to transmit for all to see as the various TV channel has shown the idiot making promises also support my view that PO won the election. Nigeria is now a laughing stock of the world because this sham of election; what a joke, like I always say, democracy is not for us, it's better to declare themselves as fascist than to hide under democracy and commit blunder, it's so disgraceful

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Geopex(m): 4:02pm On Jun 16, 2023
Kukutenla:

I like the fact you apc rats have come to agree that Obi won Benue which I said in March. Your claim then was that APC deceived Benue people that Father Alia's election was held in Feb 25 which I replied that it's a mighty ridiculous lie.
So, Tinubu actually won 10 states instead of 12 as was being bandied. If PDP are as meticulous as labour, they can actually prove he did not win some states in the North especially Jigawa.
But besides that, statistically, it's impossible for someone to win 10 out of 36 states and still be declared winner if some abracadabra is not involved. I'm beginning to believe the results were actually rigged based on this court session.

Olodo niyin sir! What if the margin in number of those 14 states won by party A is smaller compared to margin party B used to win in 12 states?.
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:04pm On Jun 16, 2023
Kukutenla:

Do you know what it means to collate?

The prof already said it is a collation system and it is not.which is it?
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:04pm On Jun 16, 2023
Kukutenla:

Do you know what recant means

Ask the inconsistent prof
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 4:04pm On Jun 16, 2023
Geopex:


Olodo niyin sir! What if the margin in number of those 14 states won by party A is smaller compared to margin party B used to win in 12 states?.
You see, you're now doing ifs and buts.
What is the probability of that occurring when we have two mega parties with almost equal spread.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 4:04pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Obi won benue- by 20,000 votes according to irev which is useless afterall tinubu won him by 8000 going by inec.
Unfortunately,atiku is not claiming any state tinubu won unlike obi.he is only claiming irregularities and blurred results...

It is statistically possible to win with even 5 states and this is why you guys lost.you don't know how to win elections.you are looking at merely winning states while tinubu is looking at margins.you can win 30 states with narrow margins with me getting above 25% while I win 6 states massively by 95% and above.thevlaw says get the highest votes and spread.the key is margin not number of states won.
No problem,the real results will determine the miracle tinubu used in winning the lowest number of States but winning the election without manipulations

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:05pm On Jun 16, 2023
princekwi:


Hahhahaha, calculation with blurred result in which planet? Nigeria is a joke, their unprofessionalsm is too childish even to kindergarten level,even a lay man knows that PO won the election, the sudden announcement of the winner in the midnight is suspicious, and the refusal to transmit for all to see as the various TV channel has shown the idiot making promises also support my view that PO won the election. Nigeria is now a laughing stock of the world because this sham of election; what a joke, like I always say, democracy is not for us, it's better to declare themselves as fascist than to hide under democracy and commit blunder, it's so disgraceful

Obi cannot prove that he won,he failed to.even today analysis shows tinubu won
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by princekwi: 4:05pm On Jun 16, 2023
Geopex:


Bcuz the irev one is blurred, so the original one from polling units used to collate is also blurred? Dey deceived una self. Faulty ko, fortress ni

According to the electoral act, physical result must correspond with that of IREV, if it's not the case, then the exercise is faulty, that's simple truth, there's no winner as it stands, the rogue even went to Nation newspaper to write that there will be no electronic transmission of result in preparation for the electoral mayhem he wanted to unleash, well it has hooked him and he can't safe himself, he is in for a very big ride bro, from PH to Sambisa

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:06pm On Jun 16, 2023
MichaelSokoto:

"Analyse and collate using irev" is different from, "here prof, dis is our results gotten from our pu agents, do the honors for us"

dats why we shld follow dis case 4 back to knw wats up

Unfortunately,he dwelled on irev alone which is inadequate
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by ubaobi: 4:06pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


You lie.it states that they will be transmission not electronic transmission
Stop misleading people whats the meaning of "transmitted directly" from the polling unit, as clearly stated in section 64

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:06pm On Jun 16, 2023
HIGHESTPOPORI:
No problem,the real results will determine the miracle tinubu used in winning the lowest number of States but winning the election without manipulations
The prof failed to prove obi won
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 4:06pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:

The prof failed to prove obi won
According to garfied but thank God you are not the judge
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 4:07pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Obi won benue- by 20,000 votes according to irev which is useless afterall tinubu won him by 8000 going by inec.
Unfortunately,atiku is not claiming any state tinubu won unlike obi.he is only claiming irregularities and blurred results...

It is statistically possible to win with even 5 states and this is why you guys lost.you don't know how to win elections.you are looking at merely winning states while tinubu is looking at margins.you can win 30 states with narrow margins with me getting above 25% while I win 6 states massively by 95% and above.thevlaw says get the highest votes and spread.the key is margin not number of states won.
Lol. APC sha. You stole two states from Obi yet you're so bold and shameless about it.

It is statistically impossible in a 3 horse race to keep close in over half of the states without rigging. If you were so sure of your margins, may I ask why you stole two federating units. I will also add Jigawa cause I'm sure it was rigged as well

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by senatordave1(m): 4:07pm On Jun 16, 2023
ubaobi:

Stop misleading people whats the meaning of "transmitted directly" from the polling unit, as clearly stated in section 64

Lp cannot prove that there was no transmission

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Kukutenla: 4:08pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


The prof already said it is a collation system and it is not.which is it?
Irev is a collation system not a collation centre.
That's what the prof said and he's correct.

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by princekwi: 4:08pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


Obi cannot prove that he won,he failed to.even today analysis shows tinubu won

Today's analysis where? has INEC provided any physical result or do you base your assumptions of technicalities?

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Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by Geopex(m): 4:08pm On Jun 16, 2023
IamV:


Are there people that might need further explanation about the content of this news INEC wanted to smuggle into evidence today ?
If great number of persons show interest,I will be creating a thread to such effect and drop the link in this thread.

In summary about the content of the news ;
INEC said they wouldn't transmit raw figures like Kenya did in 2015, but they would upload result images to a portal.
"RAW FIGURES" here means just the number of votes.
For instance,in a polling unit,LP got total of 23 votes,APC got total of 34 votes ,PDP got total of 75 votes etc.
INEC claimed the results won't be transmitted by those "raw figures ",like, transmitting only the number of votes each party got,but rather everything would be captured as an image and uploaded in real time.

I'm honestly still surprised how none of
the respondents legal teams couldn't figure that out.


Is still the same , forget emotions. Meaning picture of results from polling unit for people to view, not to make use of it to collate results or wait for it B4 collation. Real deal is the one polling officer take to the collation center and do addition and subtraction. And lemme know tell u, if u change a figure and sign beside the figure, u don talk say u change am niyen o. What if LP no get agents when doing that nko , or may b they didn't present party agents in most poling units of SW and majority of North. Pls from who did they wanna get the results from, from PDP or ApC that rigged them out? Lp just dey play sha
Re: Peter Obi Vs Tinubu: 16th June 2023 Live Court Updates by 00FFT00(m): 4:10pm On Jun 16, 2023
senatordave1:


A sensible expert would have cross checked those 18000 irev copies with inec and lp own.at least collating upwards will give him something which shows obi winning maybe

How do you know the things you mentioned were not done?. Are you by any chance suggesting the entirety of LP case rests on the statements of this one witness?.

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