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vannessa7:
This view of yours is all good except for one little thing, practicing humanity is very wise because there is no book of God where you are told to only worship God without treating other people right,

it will be an exercise in futility sleeping in the church or mosque but hating on everyone and never helping humanity. That's your own contribution to the world, to humanity but what will you get in return, that you are considerate and fair to everyone doesn't mean they will reciprocate same to you, and there is a lot going on in the spiritual that even you don't know about yourself,

if you don't go to church or mosque and believe in God while doing good to people you might even be the target of the devil because you have amassed all these goodness from sowing good seeds in other people's life but you have no one to protect you and the seeds,

Going to church or mosque gives you spiritual backings because the presence and the power of God is easily available in the house of God if you go to the right place, there are many challenges that might be coming your way which you will get help to overcome it if you belong to a house of God,

Do you know that all this LGBTQ thing is as a result of ignoring the presence of God? If you refuse to participate in the house of God no matter all your good intentions corruption can set in, even all these sexual crimes like paedophilia, incest, rape are as a result of not having the spirit of God not to talk of other vices, I know all these because I did not know God nor worship Him until my adulthood, and as soon as I got born again I instantly lost appetite for lust and sexual sins and even now as a new Muslim the feeling of keeping myself pure has intensify,

Apart from all these, the Glory that God has given you which is like intangible money can attract the evil powers if you don't have a personal walk with God by paying attention to Him, the Bible says we should not abandon the assembly of believers, Islam says it is 25times more powerful to pray in the mosque than pray at home, I have confirmed this several times because matter what I'm going through it disappears when I attend the mosque regularly.

Everyone is bound to experience life challenges along the line and it is what you have invested in that will be there for you, the whites actually walk in love because their skin color repel the devil because it's almost white but because they ignore God they are having all these corruption, love of others is not enough but love of God shown by paying attention to the things of God.

Having said that, I understand getting the genuine place of worship where God actually operates is very tricky especially in Nigeria, many churches are just devil's house and some mosques have introduce another thing to Islam which reduce the power of God there, that's why you should pray about that, to know the right place for you and if a Muslim just ignore any sect that is being criticize a lot for their mode of worship and all those imam practicing herbalist and you will be fine.

Things might be going fine for you now because you are young but life is long and a lot is still ahead of you, you need a higher power to help you navigate this life and places of worship is the store house of Gods power, it's an issue of specialisation, contacting heaven is the only thing being done there so joining them gives you a piece of the power of God to live above the devil and it's agents, but beware of many churches in Nigeria, the only church I can vouch for is RCCG because I prayed and received it . I became a Muslim because the evil church I was attending before I joined RCCG was manifesting against me even in RCCG anytime the choir minister the same song, I will start seeing the evil church with all their afflictions, I had to pray hard before I was led into Islam. I'm sure there are other good churches but I know there are many evil ones. I hope you do the right thing.

Another experience I have is that of my mother, she also lived a life of I don't need to go to church or mosque since I love God and I don't do evil of any type, she and my father did not introduce us children to God, we grew up not going to church or mosque, the enemy dealt with us the children badly, we found God ourselves at adulthood and my mother now attends church and she has seen the difference

Cc:Buddha3

bunlizlaw:
Oga easy na . This your historical recount isn't true o. As someone who was born in Celestial Church and spent her formative and early adult years in the church , this was not the story of how the founder was called. As much as you want to paint a bad picture of the church, try to be truthful about your story.

okerekingsley90:
Please sorry what do you mean by "NO MAN LOKS FOR GOD". I DONT UNDERSTAND. so you mean if there sre problems we shouldn't look up to God. I don't understand pls

Rubby1:
Three Practices of White Garment Churches You Should Run Away From.

If there is a country that is very religious, it's Nigeria. A country that has a lot of churches abounding in almost every street and corners in certain cities, yet it seems the situation of the country gets more challenging.

Amidst all these are white garment churches. These churches are distributed around the world. It's origins can be traced to Benin republic when the founder migrated from the same. And in actual truth he never initiated these practices, but several persons who joined him along the way brought some ideology or the other.

If you look at a church like winners, or RCCG , there is a central command. Such that what you see done at location A is done at location B and it's the same every where.

And if a Church does not have a central head that is recognised, reverred and serves as a chain of command , that should really sound an alarm to you.

There are some practices in these churches that you really should be wary of. So what are they?

1. Bathing in the River

Jesus baptised people only once and there was a reason. He never used it as a practice. Any practice that engages the mostly the practices of the old testament should be avoided. The blind man he asked to go the River to bathe was a prophetic instruction. While the problem seems to be solved by bathing in a river, this really is temporary. Just two weeks later, you will amount in greater problems and issues. Bathing in the River exposes you to more forces than you bargained for.

2. Using their Prayer Soap

Religion in Nigeria has done more harm than good. If you ignore certain principles, you can never have those enviable results that you seek. Bathing in the River and using the prayer soap is one and the same. You end up washing your glory and your goodness away. Do not be deceived. Pray to God by using certain Psalms like Ps. 23, 46, 83, 121 and 1. Pray this prayers between 12am and 3am and see God doing wonders in your life.

If men can pray, God will answer.

3. Celebration Rites

If there is something I know about these guys, it's that they can find reasons and excuses to eat in the name of one celebration or the other. Guys this is where you should be careful. A church that always does this should ring an alarm in your head. These foods are prepared by people who looking for means to spread their misfortunes around , or doing a prayer of more years to add to their life or simply collecting people's glory for their selves. Then you innocently eat the same. Bros or Sis be careful! I have attended their services for a long time and that's how I know these things. I have served with them for a while so I know what I am talking about. Do not let yourself become caught out with them.

I am not saying white garment churches are all bad. There are some of them that do none of these things and are quite effective.

A church that does any of these should be a suspect to you. Some of these churches do not even wear white garments yet they do this. Every church should have an head. And every church should have an identity that is synonymous to them. A church is known by the fruit of the spirit it represents. Winners is known for Faith, RCCG is known for humility, and many more. Once a Church does not represent at least a fruit of the spirit then what happens there is not about Christ but something else.

paxonel:
My question about white garments is, what are the significance of the white garments and walking bare foot on streets?

And, is it really true that white garment churches put people's names in a bottle of ogogoro and cause them to behave drunk according to what that pastor said?

paxonel:
My question about white garments is, what are the significance of the white garments and walking bare foot on streets?

And, is it really true that white garment churches put people's names in a bottle of ogogoro and cause them to behave drunk according to what that pastor said?

Kukutenla:
Actually, the Psalms are Jewish too but were expunged because of their content. They do not follow the same pattern and theme of the regular known Psalms which made their origins doubtful. Let's not forget even Jews at one point copied pagans especially when they deviated from God's laws

FxMasterz:
Are they not in the same category?

Please read the Bible for yourself. Seek the truth for yourself. Don't allow any man deceive you.

Jungpablo:
you’re the one deceiving yourself, church started from Catholic, dey there dey form woke.

Kukutenla:
You left Christianity for Islam. How's that a good thing? Islam is just another form of Judaism, same Judaism Christ came to save Israel from.
So are you progressing or retrogressing?

caandi:
God bless you for this
You really understand the word of God which is the pure truth!

FxMasterz:
I can see that you're already deep in white garment practices. You're probably a strong leader there. Nothing I tell you would move you because your belief in the things you do is deeply entrenched.

Now, let me answer your Questions.

1. The raised hands of Moses was what God intended to use at that point in time to bring victory to Israel. God wanted him in one way or the other to participate in that battle and make the Israelites know for certain that their swords was not responsible for their victory.

Psalm 44:3

For they got not the land in possession by their own sword, neither did their own arm save them: but thy right hand, and thine arm, and the light of thy countenance, because thou hadst a favour unto them."

The message was very clear. Moses also got to understand that he is not self-sufficient. Take note of the fact that it was just a one-time occurrence. It never happened again. They didn't make it a rule for regular war practice. It was simply a message and it remained so. Do not compare this event with regular practices of the white garment churches.

2. When Elisha told the king Jehoash to hit the ground with his arrows in 2kings 13, remember that in verse 16, the prophet put his hands on the king's hands. This is the important part of that passage because the prophet was about to give the king a prophetic prayer that he was not worthy of. The king like his father was not serving God but he wanted to benefit from God. Rather than issue him a word of prophesy for Victory, the prophet can only offer up prophetic prayers and he must use his own hands to decide his own fate. That's exactly what happened. Any victory the king got was not because he was worthy but because God decided to overlook his deeds and have respect to the prophet and his anointing. However, by striking the ground just 3 times, he sealed his own fate. This does not justify anything that white garment churches do.

3. Jesus spitting on the ground was as He was directed to do at that particular moment for that particular man. The man was born blind. Tradition has it that he did not even have eyes. As in there were no eyes in those sockets. It was all skin covering that part of his face. The miracle in that John 10 was a special miracle. Jesus was literally creating new eyes in order to give sight to that man. What He did there was as instructed by the Holy Spirit. Remember He said, "I can of my own self do nothing." The actions were just for that particular occasion. The disciples who took up the ministry after Christ didn't make anything of it. Their activities are fully recorded in the book of Acts. They never had to indulge in any of those things you guys do to cast out devils, heal the sick, make the lame to walk or even raise the dead. The church had existed for almost 2,000yrs before white garment churches came into being. Those practices of yours never existed in christiendom. What do you think you know better than the Apostles?

Jesus is our ultimate example, and the Bible is our guide. Do it the way they did it. You would have the same results they had. It's just as simple as that. Why burn candles or wash anyone's head in rivers? Are you herbalists?

4. The blood flow from the woman with the issue of blood was not responsible for drawing power from the Lord Jesus. It was her faith. Through her faith, power was released from the Lord for her healing, and Christ knew that power got out of Him. Her menstrual blood didn't defile Jesus or spoil His anointing. I'm aware that you guys have
certain restrictions for women during their mensural periods. Like a herbalist, you think a touch from them would spoil things. It was not so with Christ. He was glad the woman touched Him. He approved of the touch and said "daughter, be not afraid, your faith has made you whole." If mensuration does not constitute a pollution to the Apostles of Christ (Acts 15}, why should it matter to any part of the body of Christ? Except that part has another Lord which is not Jesus.

See, the Bible is plain and straight forward. Trying to use unrelated scriptures to justify weird practices does not bring you into any good standing before God.

Even Paul who brought the gospel to us gentiles said be ye my imitators as I am of Christ Jesus. 1Cor. 11;1-2 (Paraphrased).

Tell me who you're imitating with your strange practices because it's obviously not the Lord Jesus, neither Paul nor any of the Apostles of the Lamb.

Munzy14:
Just Cherubim.

Others na glorified native doctors with bible.

vannessa7:
No it's not, revelation is progressive, there is a reason why Islam came last, I didn't dance into Islam, I fought it with all my will but the revelation was sure, I have never regretted since then, I was shocked to even discover God in Islam, Islam is the enemy of Satan and Satan runs at the presence of islam whereas Christianity welcomes and pamper the devil because of grace. The pastors have led many people astray, we should listen to God and not Pastor, that's why everyone needs a personal relationship with God.

Kukutenla:
What is the revelation in Islam? Islam is just a copy of Judaism. There's nothing unique about Islam that gives it an edge. The theme is same with that of Judaism in the old testament which is service to God through acts of worship. It's why there are so many ceremonial laws therein, and a prevalence of dogmatism which God Himself rejected in the OT.
Jesus is the way, truth and life

Lukuluku69:
So, Jehovah gave those Laws to the Israelites for what purpose?

Anas09:
Looking up to God is not the same thing as looking for God.

Since man fell, the link between God and man broke. From then, anyone who has ever walked with God, God went to them.
People have attempted to look for God ended up in deep occult. Satan presents himself as God to them

Kukutenla:
The purpose of those laws was to serve him and relate with themselves and their neighbours. It did not hold any promise of the afterlife or relationship with God.

vannessa7:
No it's not, revelation is progressive, there is a reason why Islam came last, I didn't dance into Islam, I fought it with all my will but the revelation was sure, I have never regretted since then, I was shocked to even discover God in Islam, Islam is the enemy of Satan and Satan runs at the presence of islam whereas Christianity welcomes and pamper the devil because of grace. The pastors have led many people astray, we should listen to God and not Pastor, that's why everyone needs a personal relationship with God.

Didijiji:
Why do Pentecostal churches speak ill of white garment churches?

I am forced to ask this question with the trending news today where Pastor David Ibiyeomie said he hates white garment churches and how they used “DEMONIC PSALMS” to make enchantments and make someone become a drunkard.

While it is important to respect senior pastors and their grace, it is equally important that the fathers of faith be made to realize they are human and not some form of God or Angel

The society we live in is plagued by many vices with influences across religion, tribe, race, denomination, sex , geolocation and all. Good and bad people exist in churches be it Catholic, Pentecostal, Anglican, white garment etc.

Singling out the white garment brethren always doesn’t speak well of you. It confirms there is a grudge because you were once a strong member. WHO MADE YOU THEIR GOD OR JUDGE?

Funny enough, you worshipped in a white garment church for several years. Your name then was Akanebo Ibiyeomie, Cherubim church in Port harcourt 115 Aggrey road. You remember Prophet Zekala the dada man, Prophet Chukwunda, Prophet Ajaero and other great prophets that mentored you. Your brother Derefoma Akanebo was also a prophet while you did more of the prayers.

More stories are on their way out so that you be guided how you insult a church on whose altar you prayed for years. Can your history be complete without the white garment church story?

Some orthodox and white garment churches were founded as far back as 1900 -1929. When did the Pentecostal churches start? Does it mean our fathers and grand fathers that worshipped in the old white garment and orthodox churches are seated in hell? Is God unjust?

The beauty of the end we all share is we all will stand before the judgement throne of God. And guess what? There won’t be any VIP queue or any of the altar and body guards.

There are good and bad pastors. There are good and bad prophets. There are good and bad bishops. Always treating the white garment churches as if nothing Godly and good exists in their churches is not Christ-like.

All the yahoo boys, hook up girls, abortionists all attend white garment churches right? You will be shocked they are more in the Pentecostal fold!

Most bank frauds that I know about have been perpetrated by even Pentecostal pastors, Ponzi yahoo schemes also, but you won’t hear because all the Pentecostal churches project to the world is the good side of their activities. I also know of a story of an RCCG father, mother and child that steal from the offering box every sunday till they were caught. An RCCG pastor told me this

What if white garment pastors start using these bad occurrences in the Pentecostal churches to preach on television?

All failed prophecies on this election were mostly by Pentecostal pastors
New year false prophecies are by them. The list is endless but no one talks.

It is pertinent to state that the founder of the RCCG, Pa Josiah Akindayomi worshipped in Cherubim for several years. So it is safe to say RCCG has white garment foundation. Some of the doctrines still continued. For eg, RCCG has mother in Israel like Cherubim.

Jesus Christ taught us love as stated in Eph 4:15.

The hate and stigma on white garment churches have become too much and MUST STOP forthwith.

Whilst there are bad white garment churches, there are good ones. Whilst there are bad Pentecostal churches, there are good ones.

Serve your God and let them be. Your doctrine is never superior and you are not their god

Stop using them to shine with your audience jeering you on—- RIDE ON PASTOR

You can’t hear other religions talk bad about their various sects but this always happens in Christianity

LET GOD BE THE JUDGE

Bonapart:
you really sure there is anything good about white garment church?

Lukuluku69:
That purpose, does it have a time lapse?

If it doesn't hold any promise of/for an afterlife or relationship with God, it does mean it is of no consequence following those Laws/rules for adherence to such is of no consequence.

God ought to have known this s and send the redeeming power of his "son" much earlier and save us all this play!

Gajagojo:
man fell? From where?

bunlizlaw:
Oga easy na . This your historical recount isn't true o. As someone who was born in Celestial Church and spent her formative and early adult years in the church , this was not the story of how the founder was called. As much as you want to paint a bad picture of the church, try to be truthful about your story.

Anas09:
It's either you think you can lie about it with the intend to decieve, or, you don't know where you are.

Have you listened to satanists say they don't worship Satan? Righhhhhht.

Didijiji:
Church denominations are still being formed. There are many reformers and disagreements even in the pentecostal fold. So would you say there are also unbiblical practices by the parent Pentecostal churches like Living Faith?

Dayo Olutayo left Living faith church to form Good tidings
Bishop George Adjeman left same church to form Winners Ghana chapel

And a whole lot!

Didijiji:
why are you bringing satanism here?

Abi na you Dey worship satan?

Anas09:
Na who dey live inside water wey una dey go worship na? Jesus Christ? No.
It's the Marine demon na

Anas09:
Romans 3:23

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

Telegon:
Haha, c'mon my brother, how can you compare this with the protestant reformation. Why will you compare a pastor that formed a new church because he's not pleased they transferred him to another branch with Martin Luther 95 theses.

The reason of churches created with the protestant reformation is very valid. I'm guessing you don't know the history for you to make this comparison.

Like I said, I just want clarification, don't reply me from the view that I hate white garment church. I don't hate any church and have no problem with new churches created.