Lol..But I asked you a question first and you didn't answer.

If you can protect yourselves from HIV, why can't you protect yourselves from illegal abortions... Answer that one first.

bercarray:
Young lady you did not answer the question. I am not asking you about abortion, all I ask is about HIV. Why can't u guys abide by law and stop spreading it when it kills you year in year out? I'm asking again. This time read carefully.

Samantha124:
Most of your men are doing crimes here... Go and watch a show called Sizokuthola and you'll see what I mean.

Then have you asked yourself why your country keeps taking them in every year. Why haven't they ban them if all they do is crime? The reason is there must sure be something good about them that is way more than the crime they are commiting

Samantha124:
Lol..But I asked you a question first and you didn't answer.

If you can protect yourselves from HIV, why can't you protect yourselves from illegal abortions... Answer that one first.

Well maybe because it's only killing a very very very small amount of Nigerians 0.001 which makes it negligible. Now you answer my question. why the spread Even though it's killing you in large numbers .

There's nothing good in most of them... Isn't it that whenever South Africans try to chase them away, you guys cry xenophobia?

You immediately go to social media and try to paint SA bad for something you know nothing about.

bercarray:
Then have you asked yourself why your country keeps taking them in every year. Why haven't they ban them if all they do is crime? The reason there must sure be something good about them that is way more than the crime they are commiting

But that doesn't change the fact that it is illegal in your country, why can't you abide by the law the same way you abide other laws.

It may not kill many, but it damages those women's wombs.

bercarray:
Well maybe because it's only killing a very very very small amount of Nigerians 0.001 which makes it negligible. Now you answer my question. why the spread Even though it's killing you in large numbers .

Na so e dey happen for movie oh, Samantha124 might end up marrying bercarrey.

I see Both of u getting a room and continuing your discussion. I see both of u suddenly start kissing. I see Lionel Richie's song "I will be ur hero baby suddenly start playing in the background. I see the room light becoming dim, and then..................................


This i have seen

Samantha124:
But that doesn't change the fact that it is illegal in your country, why can't you abide by the law the same way you abide other laws.

It may not kill many, but it damages those women's wombs.

Madam save yourself all these stories and answer my question, afterall, I have answered yours. Just answer the question. Simple.

Nooo, you haven't told me the reason why you guys can't stay away from backdoor abortions since abortion in general is iilegal in your country.

Since you guys are law abiding citizens, why can't you stay away from illegal abortions?

bercarray:
Madam save yourself all these stories and answer my question, afterall, I have answered yours. Just answer the question. Simple.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

shantti:
Na so e dey happen for movie oh, Samantha127 might end up marrying bercarrey.

Both of u need to get a room and continue your discussion and then suddenly start kissing and then Lionel Richie's song "I will be ur hero baby will start playing in the background and then the light dims and then..................................


The end

shantti:
Na so e dey happen for movie oh, Samantha127 might end up marrying bencarrey. Both of u need to get a room

This one go dey too argue with me if i marry am. Na her type go wan make sure their own say stands,

I don dey notice her if i dey read comments most times, whenever anyone quotes her about something, No matter the amount of people thatt quotes her she go make sure she responds to all of them with some reasons wey no dy genuine and she go dey feel like say she sabi reply people or shut them up, Na why i dey take my time reply her be that. Every body get response but na home training dey keep us but if you show say u get chinchin for head, we go reveal our true self to you. I've never argue this long since 10yrs ago i joined this forum.

Remind me the answer you gave please.

bercarray:
Madam save yourself all these stories and answer my question, afterall, I have answered yours. Just answer the question. Simple.

Samantha124:
Nooo, you haven't told me the reason why you guys can't stay away from backdoor abortions since abortion in general is iilegal in your country.

Since you guys are law abiding citizens, why can't you stay away from illegal abortions?

Madam I said maybe because it is only killing 0.001 percent of Nigerians which makes it negligible

But the amount of people dying from HIV in your country is more than times two of the amount of people dying of abortion in Nigeria considering the fact that you guys are low in population. So why are you guys not abiding by that law of not spreading HIV that keeps killing you guys year in year out? This question is begging and dying to get an answer from you.

Like I said before, there's no such law.

So I've answered your question.

bercarray:
Madam I said maybe because it is only killing 0.001 percent of Nigerians which makes it negligible

But the amount of people dying from HIV in your country is more than times two of the amount of people dying of abortion in Nigeria considering the fact that you guys are low in population. So why are you guys not abiding by that law of not spreading HIV that keeps killing you guys year in year out? This question is begging and dying to get an answer from you.

Samantha124:
Like I said before, there's no such law.

So I've answered your question.

Wow there is no such law! There is no Law that says Spreading of HIV is illegal? Lies! lies! lies! from the pit of hell.

Show me a proof of what the law says about spreading of HIV in south africa. Afterall I showed you mine with a link the other time. Prove yours now or I'll assume you're capping.

Since I'm lying, then go look for the truth yourself.

And if there is such law, then I don't know about it because I've never heard such before.

There, I've answered your question.

bercarray:
Wow there is no such law! There is no Law that says Spreading of HIV is illegal? Lies! lies! lies! from the pit of hell.

Show me a proof of what the law says about spreading of HIV in south africa. Afterall I showed you mine with a link the other time. Prove yours now or I'll assume you're capping.

Samantha124:
Since I'm lying, then go look for the truth yourself.

And if there is such law, then I don't know about it because I've never heard such before.

There, I've answered your question.

Exactly, next time my dear, make finding, seek for knowledge before you come here and start arguing blindly, It's embarrassing. Leave us here in our country let us do whatever pleases us , Solve the one in your country first before you advise us about what to do in our country. Nigerians don't need your country's advise on how to make their country better. Thank you.


Sayonara

As long as it's illegal, I'm still going to tell you that it's illegal...

I only told you facts and you're just hurt that I told you guys the truth, the same way you guys get offended whenever people talk against the number of Internet fraud committed by Nigerians.

Even those people who spread HIV in SA still get free access to medical care, but we can't say the same thing about those ones who are having complications from doing backroom abortions in Nigeria.

Anyways, bye.

bercarray:
Exactly, next time my dear, make finding, seek for knowledge before you come here and start arguing blindly, It's embarrassing. Leave us here in our country let us do whatever pleases us , Solve the one in your country first before you advise us about what to do in our country. Nigerians don't need your country's advise on how to make their country better. Thank you.


Sayonara

You are now a father!!

I once had a girlfriend that throughout the relationship, I was using condoms. I know it sounds odd, but hmm better be careful than be sorry. Anyways, congratulations

This is proof that I'm not lying... But if you still believe that I'm lying, then feel free to do your own research.

We don't have any law that criminalise spreading of HIV... I didn't study law to lie..

Anyways, goodbye once again and enjoy reading...

bercarray:
Exactly, next time my dear, make finding, seek for knowledge before you come here and start arguing blindly, It's embarrassing. Leave us here in our country let us do whatever pleases us , Solve the one in your country first before you advise us about what to do in our country. Nigerians don't need your country's advise on how to make their country better. Thank you.


Sayonara

Agozskey:
and are u a saint, or are u without sin as well...

Tag me to any post of mine involving premarital sex or abortion where I portrayed it as God's will.

It's your guilty conscience that pushed you to comment that nonsense. You and the OP are in the same WhatsApp group

Samantha124:
This is proof that I'm not lying... But if you still believe that I'm lying, then feel free to do your own research.

We don't have any law that criminalise spreading of HIV... I didn't study law to lie..

Anyways, goodbye once again and enjoy reading...

It was indeed a good read. Those part that I marked, is it that you didn't not understand the English there or what? If you studied law and you're showing this as a proof to defend yourself that Spreading of HIV legal, I'm telling you your lecturers have failed you o perhaps they taught you well, then I'd say maybe you were skipping classes

However in principle such behaviour falls under the scope of common law crimes that range from attempted murder to assault

Second paragraph says a report argues; argument means that, they've not settled for the decision yet and the report argues because someone on treatment even if when (+) posseses lower transmission risk than someone that's not been diagnosed and people might not want to get themselves tested. That's the summary of that.

Third, paragraph already concluded that line with it's last sentence starting from The end result is that the law tends to punish people for merely having sex if there's a risk of transmission

Samantha124:
This is proof that I'm not lying... But if you still believe that I'm lying, then feel free to do your own research.

We don't have any law that criminalise spreading of HIV... I didn't study law to lie..

Anyways, goodbye once again and enjoy reading...

Also miss barrister if there's no law that criminalise spreading of HIV, kindly explain the pictures below to us. If you want argue, do that with a flawless fact, not some fact that are not genuine.

Samantha124:
As long as it's illegal, I'm still going to tell you that it's illegal...

I only told you facts and you're just hurt that I told you guys the truth, the same way you guys get offended whenever people talk against the number of Internet fraud committed by Nigerians.

Even those people who spread HIV in SA still get free access to medical care, but we can't say the same thing about those ones who are having complications from doing backroom abortions in Nigeria.

Anyways, bye.

We don't need need you to tell us any fact about abortion, because death rate is so minute, very very minute, nobody asked u for any fact, go and tell that fact to those in your country so that they can reduce the rate at which HIV kills them because it's high compared to abortion death rate in Nigeria that you've chosen to tell us fact about. You guys need that fact more than us. If this was coming from another country it would have been better, but from HIV country? No, it's like a jobless person telling someone facts about how to get jobs .

If someone spreading HIV has has good health care in your country, so then why haven't the amount of HIV reduced drastically, why does it keep killing you guys? I guess the good health care is not good enough.

TheRealOwner:


Tag me to any post of mine involving premarital sex or abortion where I portrayed it as God's will.

It's your guilty conscience that pushed you to comment that nonsense. You and the OP are in the same WhatsApp group

are u a saint? Yes or No

Yet they keep running to SA yearly despite everything...

Okay, I've heard you Sir, and do yourselves a favour by staying away from us because we will infect you..😅😅😅

bercarray:
We don't need need you to tell us any fact about abortion, because death rate is so minute, very very minute, nobody asked u for any fact, go and tell that fact to those in your country so that they can reduce the rate at which HIV kills them because it's high compared to abortion death rate in Nigeria that you've chosen to tell us fact about. You guys need that fact more than us. If this was coming from another country it would have been better, but from HIV country? No, it's like a jobless person telling someone facts about how to get jobs .

If someone spreading HIV has has good health care in your country, so then why haven't the amount of HIV reduced drastically, why does it keep killing you guys? I guess the good health care is not good enough.

Lol... I got you right where I wanted you, I knew you'd fall for the trap...😂😂😂

Unfortunately, today I don't have the energy for arguments... I just need to freshen up and sleep... Last time I had some proper rest and slept was Thursday night.

And please, don't call me a barrister, I might've studied law, but I don't practice as a lawyer, at least not yet... Samantha or Sam is just fine.

I'll get back to you tomorrow when I'm fresh and energetic...

bercarray:
Also miss barrister if there's no law that criminalise spreading of HIV, kindly explain the pictures below to us. If you want argue, do that with a flawless fact, not some fact that are not genuine.

Samantha124:
Yet they keep running to SA yearly despite everything...

Okay, I've heard you Sir, and do yourselves a favour by staying away from us because we will infect you..😅😅😅

Say that to your govt that keeps taking them on every year, Even though all we come to do in your country is commit crimes and damage wombs through abortion.

Samantha124:
Lol... I got you right where I wanted you, I knew you'd fall for the trap...😂😂😂

Unfortunately, today I don't have the energy for arguments... I just need to freshen up and sleep... Last time I had some proper rest and slept was Thursday night.

And please, don't call me a barrister, I might've studied law, but I don't practice as a lawyer, at least not yet... Samantha or Sam is just fine.

I'll get back to you tomorrow when I'm fresh and energetic...

Alright I'm here till seun decided to close this thread and if need be we will open another thread and start afresh. Tag along other south Africans on this forum, I won't be fazed. I'm Loving this, God knows.

So you're blaming the South African government for the number of Nigerians that come to SA yearly despite them being afraid of HIV and seeing all South Africans as HIV positive.

Your level of reasoning says a lot about you because you're so focused on being defensive to a point that you're no longer making any sense.

Is the SA government forcing you guys to come here since you guys are afraid of HIV?

bercarray:
Say that to your govt that keeps taking them on every year, Even though all we come to do in your country is commit crimes and damage wombs through abortion.

So what you're basically saying is that if a Nigerian national staying in SA sees me stealing and tries to caution me for it by reminding me that stealing is illegal, Instead of me to be remorseful or try to justify what I did even though it's bad, I should immediately retaliate by telling him or her to go and mind the number of terrorist attacks happening in Nigeria because we don't have terrorism in SA?

If this is how most of you Nigerians reason, then I'm not surprised as to why your leaders are treating you the way that they do... Because you never take accountability for your actions, but you're always ready to be defensive.

If you came to me and tried to justify the number of illegal abortions happening in Nigeria by telling me that you guys have been campaigning for abortion to be legalized in Nigeria, but the government kept turning blind eye, forcing you guys to do things the illegal ways, I'd have understood that even if it's illegal, you guys have got valid reasons to do what you're doing.

bercarray:
We don't need need you to tell us any fact about abortion, because death rate is so minute, very very minute, nobody asked u for any fact, go and tell that fact to those in your country so that they can reduce the rate at which HIV kills them because it's high compared to abortion death rate in Nigeria that you've chosen to tell us fact about. You guys need that fact more than us. If this was coming from another country it would have been better, but from HIV country? No, it's like a jobless person telling someone facts about how to get jobs .

If someone spreading HIV has has good health care in your country, so then why haven't the amount of HIV reduced drastically, why does it keep killing you guys? I guess the good health care is not good enough.

Samantha124:
So what you're basically saying is that if a Nigerian national staying in SA sees me stealing and tries to caution me for it by reminding me that stealing is illegal, Instead of me to be remorseful or try to justify what I did even though it's bad, I should immediately retaliate by telling him or her to go and mind the number of terrorist attacks happening in Nigeria because we don't have terrorism in SA?

If this is how most of you Nigerians reason, then I'm not surprised as to why your leaders are treating you the way that they do... Because you never take accountability for your actions, but you're always ready to be defensive.

If you came to me and tried to justify the number of illegal abortions happening in Nigeria by telling me that you guys have been campaigning for abortion to be legalized in Nigeria, but the government kept turning blind eye, forcing you guys to do things the illegal ways, I'd have understood that even if it's illegal, you guys have got valid reasons to do what you're doing.

Now you've brought this argument exactly to where i want it to be. Now you just said " if a Nigerian national staying in SA sees me stealing and tries to caution me for it by reminding me that stealing is illegal, Instead of me to be remorseful or try to justify what I did even though it's bad, I should immediately retaliate by telling him or her to go and mind the number of terrorist attacks happening in Nigeria because we don't have terrorism in SA? " So let us relate it to the OP's scenario. In your case why didn't you just correct the OP, why attack Nigerian as a whole, because right about now, you are contradicting yourself. What you said does not make sense in your write up above is what you just did. Now who is reasoning the other way round? Is it not a south african (you) reasoning the way you think nigerian reasons?

* You saw the OP thread about abortion (I'm relating that to " if a Nigerian national staying in SA sees me stealing ".

* You failed to do this - (tries to caution me for it by reminding me that stealing is illegal) instead of reminding OP that abortion is bad just like your write up says and maybe the OP would be remorseful (to be remorseful or try to justify what I did even though it's bad), but you didn't. GBAM!!!! you attacked the whole Nigeria.

Now i ask again, who is reasoning the way claimed Nigerians reasons? l guess you're looking at yourself right now

Thank God you're not practicing what you studied, you'll be shooting yourself in the leg big time! Who knows maybe you're not practicing because you're not good enough.