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MaxInDHouse:
You're just a clown walahi talahi!

I said "true Christians" and instead of you to talk about what you know regarding true Christians you want to attribute it to a group whereas there are over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians.

So if you're sincere with yourself why not mention your own group after all we all know that there is great confusion among those claiming Christians as Catholics, Deeper life, Mountain of fire, Christ Embassy, Synagogues, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim, Chosen, C.A.C, Apostolic Faith, The Apostolic Church, Methodist Church, African Church, Jehovah's Witnesses and many more aren't in agreement.
So if i say "true Christians" and you single out only Jehovah's Witnesses what about your own church?

You’re the one always here boasting that yours is the only true Christian yet you can’t answer simple questions about your founder:

We must examine the character of the person that founded your JW cult sect
He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us Do you also subject your wives to mental torture like your founder?

advocatejare:
You’re the one always here boasting that yours is the only true Christian yet you can’t answer simple questions about your founder:

We must examine the character of the person that founded your JW cult sect
He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us Do you also subject your wives to mental torture like your founder?

OK inferiority is your problem!

Ọmọ all the churches around you are claiming the same thing but it's a pity that you're deaf spiritually speaking otherwise you should know by now that if they are in agreement there is no reason splitting the church using different ideologies to draw followers.
Whatever makes Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, TB Joshua and many more to have halls in the same street it simply means each is trying to prove he's own is best but only Jehovah's Witnesses have what it takes to PROVE it that's why you're feeling really bad but the truth is all of them are against one another otherwise they supposed to be worshiping together as one!

MaxInDHouse:
OK inferiority is your problem!

Ọmọ all the churches around you are claiming the same thing but it's a pity that you're deaf spiritually speaking otherwise you should know by now that if they are in agreement there is no reason splitting the church using different ideologies to draw followers.
Whatever makes Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, TB Joshua and many more to have halls in the same street it simply means each is trying to prove he's own is best but only Jehovah's Witnesses have what it takes to PROVE it that's why you're feeling really bad but the truth is all of them are against one another otherwise they supposed to be worshiping together as one!

I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us Do you also subject your wives to mental torture like your founder?

He knows where to direct his blows because he is fully aware that true Christians will easily render him silent.
But it's OK let him continue dancing around his misinformed churchgoer victims!

advocatejare:
Dindinrin n din robo. True Christians indeed, so called true Christians whose founder and his wife divorced against the teaching of Christ, whose wife exposed as subjecting her to mental torture, who was notorious for giving false prophecies.
True Christians indeed! Just dey play

The above is what caused your headache as if Jesus never warned against false Christians following false prophets. {Matthew 7:21-23; 24:11} and he said his true disciples will be IDENTIFIED by the love among them! John 13:34-35

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us Do you also subject your wives to mental torture like your founder?

So if anyone talks about TRUE CHRISTIANS and you're worried ọmọ check yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
The above is what caused your headache as if Jesus never warned against false Christians following false prophets. {Matthew 7:21-23; 24:11} and he said his true disciples will be IDENTIFIED by the love among them! John 13:34-35



So if anyone talks about TRUE CHRISTIANS and you're worried ọmọ check yourself!

I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, Russel the abuser, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, Russel the abuser, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together
He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Ó mà ṣeo!
Too much Qur'an citation has affected you now you're on default mode!
Well get better soon my guy perhaps we will continue our discussion then.

I read through parts of your arguments you called Bible Gaffes. Your objective from onset is subjective and bias in approach because it is the gaffes you were looking for and you haven't find enough, as more than what you penned are still lingering.

When you set bias in research you had already failed. A researcher must be objective with strong critiquing disposition so his work could attract a wide range of acceptance.

If I were you I won't stop on the gafes, but makes an honest probe why they exist, and that will be more appreciated.

For example I you argues God wanted Isreal to circumcise every male, but Paul wrote in Galatians that Circumcision is nothing. This singular lack of understanding of basic bible exegesis expresses much ignorance on Bible Interpretation.

My advice, to be upbeat in your knowledge of the bible you have to read books on bible Interpretation. There could be little variance in timing and writers' perspective that bring scholastic reverences to the bible, but never is anywhere the bible contradicts itself in context, and progressive revelations based on God's plan for man and order of events.

Good job though, but really needs your objectivity, and removal of biases to have a sound theologically inclined arguments. Sincerely, most sound theologian will just laugh at your gafes like a baby who is learning to flex his/her fingers learning how to scribble freely on a slate. No meaning!

I read through parts of your arguments you called Bible Gaffes. Your objective from onset is subjective and bias in approach because it is the gaffes you were looking for and you haven't find enough, as more than what you penned are still lingering.

When you set bias in research you had already failed. A researcher must be objective with strong critiquing disposition so his work could attract a wide range of acceptance.

If I were you I won't stop on the gafes, but makes an honest probe why they exist, and that will be more appreciated.

For example I you argues God wanted Isreal to circumcise every male, but Paul wrote in Galatians that Circumcision is nothing. This singular lack of understanding of basic bible exegesis expresses much ignorance on Bible Interpretation.

My advice, to be upbeat in your knowledge of the bible you have to read books on bible Interpretation. There could be little variance in timing and writers' perspective that bring scholastic reverences to the bible, but never is anywhere the bible contradicts itself in context, and progressive revelations based on God's plan for man and order of events.

Good job though, but really needs your objectivity, and removal of biases to have a sound theologically inclined arguments. Sincerely, most sound theologian will just laugh at your gafes like a baby who is learning to flex his/her fingers learning how to scribble freely on a slate. No meaning!

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, Russel the abuser, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Did he respond to these questions?

Ekrenji:
Did he respond to these questions?

If you have any question you're free to ask me on my thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses
The OP is an atheist and if you're also an atheist let me know!

MaxInDHouse:
If you have any question you're free to ask me on my thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses
The OP is an atheist and if you're also an atheist let me know!

Go and answer the one advocatejare asked u

Ekrenji:
Go and answer the one advocatejare asked u

OK you're not ORIGINAL but follow follow shey?
It's OK!

Ekrenji:
Go and answer the one advocatejare asked u

MaxInDHouse is ashamed of the life Russel the founder of his cult lived, he won’t answer you

MaxInDHouse:
OK inferiority is your problem!

Ọmọ all the churches around you are claiming the same thing but it's a pity that you're deaf spiritually speaking otherwise you should know by now that if they are in agreement there is no reason splitting the church using different ideologies to draw followers.
Whatever makes Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, TB Joshua and many more to have halls in the same street it simply means each is trying to prove he's own is best but only Jehovah's Witnesses have what it takes to PROVE it that's why you're feeling really bad but the truth is all of them are against one another otherwise they supposed to be worshiping together as one!

As a neutral observing this argument between you n advocatejare, I think you're dodging too many questions. Just answer him

waleolaniyan:
I read through parts of your arguments you called Bible Gaffes. Your objective from onset is subjective and bias in approach because it is the gaffes you were looking for and you haven't find enough, as more than what you penned are still lingering.

When you set bias in research you had already failed. A researcher must be objective with strong critiquing disposition so his work could attract a wide range of acceptance.

If I were you I won't stop on the gafes, but makes an honest probe why they exist, and that will be more appreciated.

For example I you argues God wanted Isreal to circumcise every male, but Paul wrote in Galatians that Circumcision is nothing. This singular lack of understanding of basic bible exegesis expresses much ignorance on Bible Interpretation.

My advice, to be upbeat in your knowledge of the bible you have to read books on bible Interpretation. There could be little variance in timing and writers' perspective that bring scholastic reverences to the bible, but never is anywhere the bible contradicts itself in context, and progressive revelations based on God's plan for man and order of events.

Good job though, but really needs your objectivity, and removal of biases to have a sound theologically inclined arguments. Sincerely, most sound theologian will just laugh at your gafes like a baby who is learning to flex his/her fingers learning how to scribble freely on a slate. No meaning!

Sorry for the late reply. I have been away from my darling thread.
Now here's my deductions from your answers.
1. Is a supposedly divinely inspired book supposed to have any gaffes? I mean it was inspired by an all-knowing, all-powerful etc god and yet what he can come up is such a disaster of a book? A book he wants to guide his creations? Think.
2. Your assumptions that since I'm looking for gaffes then I'll definitely see them is wrong. A gaffe is a gaffe, whether it looked for them or they jumped at me.
3. About Pauls contradictions with Yahweh's order, isn't Paul supposed to be speaking the mind of Christ? How come he's saying opposites to what Christ wants?
4. Your verbal gymnastics won't take you anywhere. Can you explain the ones that are out of contexts.
5. The worse is these aren't even the main gaffes. If you are so interested, I have the main gaffes that would truly amaze you

MaxInDHouse:
If you have any question you're free to ask me on my thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses
The OP is an atheist and if you're also an atheist let me know!

Does it matter? Does your answer depend on the religious leanings of the OP? Besides the question wasn't asked by the OP but a theist, so please answer them

jaephoenix:
As a neutral observing this argument between you n advocatejare, I think you're dodging too many questions. Just answer him

You're a neutral observer yet an atheist who is interested in religious arguments.
Ọmọ try to be consistent, if you want to worship ask for the true religion and if you're not interested nobody will force you!

jaephoenix:
Does it matter? Does your answer depend on the religious leanings of the OP? Besides the question wasn't asked by the OP but a theist, so please answer them

If you're truly a neutral observer as an atheist you should first ask the one asking to tell you the name of his own church, the founder and doctrines since there are many different sects claiming Christians and there is contradictions among them!

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse is ashamed of the life Russel the founder of his cult lived, he won’t answer you

The atheists here aren't interested in your Jesus they're just entertaining themselves with your arguments, insults, abusive speeches and curses as you're throwing it against one another in the name of your god.

I'm a disciple of Christ, we don't throw our blows towards the wind {1Corinthians 9:26} rather we makes the best use of our time {Ephesians 5:15-16} searching for interested ones who wants to know the true religion! Matthew 10:6

So you can continue entertaining your fans they already know me that i'm not here to entertain them!

MaxInDHouse:
The atheists here aren't interested in your Jesus they're just entertaining themselves with your arguments, insults, abusive speeches and curses as you're throwing it against one another in the name of your god.

I'm a disciple of Christ, we don't throw our blows towards the wind {1Corinthians 9:26} rather we makes the best use of our time {Ephesians 5:15-16} searching for interested ones who wants to know the true religion! Matthew 10:6

So you can continue entertaining your fans they already know me that i'm not here to entertain them!

Stop your idiotic diversion and answer my questions:

Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?

Is his lifestyle worth emulating?

Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?

Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?

What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?

Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

MaxInDHouse:
You're a neutral observer yet an atheist who is interested in religious arguments.
Ọmọ try to be consistent, if you want to worship ask for the true religion and if you're not interested nobody will force you!

Mutual in the sense that I support neither of you. Both of you are theists in your own rights, thus I'm not biased towards any religion or sect.
So take your true religion bullshit and stick it up where the sun don't shine

MaxInDHouse:
If you're truly a neutral observer as an atheist you should first ask the one asking to tell you the name of his own church, the founder and doctrines since there are many different sects claiming Christians and there is contradictions among them!

You have a point there, but I assume he's probably a pentecostal considering the leanings of his posts. But concerning his questions, even a blind man can see you're seriously dodging them. Why don't you come clean

....

jaephoenix:
You have a point there, but I assume he's probably a pentecostal considering the leanings of his posts. But concerning his questions, even a blind man can see you're seriously dodging them. Why don't you come clean

Max and his jws are devils, antiChrists and antiGod like you atheists, so washing and.becoming clean is never an option.

advocatejare:
Stop your idiotic diversion and answer my questions:
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

jaephoenix:
You have a point there, but I assume he's probably a pentecostal considering the leanings of his posts. But concerning his questions, even a blind man can see you're seriously dodging them. Why don't you come clean

You're still deceiving yourself!

How many different sects are claiming pentecostal?
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Let him come out clean by mentioning the name of his own church then a cross examination can start!

MaxInDHouse:
You're still deceiving yourself!

How many different sects are claiming pentecostal?
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Let him come out clean by mentioning the name of his own church then a cross examination can start!

To be honest, he doesn't need to. Remember you have been claiming your sect is the best thing after sliced bread. He hasnt made any of such claims concerning his own sect. So since you made the claim, then you have to defend it by answering his questions and staking your claim. Basic logic.
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MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

jaephoenix:
To be honest, he doesn't need to. Remember you have been claiming your sect is the best thing after sliced bread. He hasnt made any of such claims concerning his own sect. So since you made the claim, then you have to defend it by answering his questions and staking your claim. Basic logic.
End of

Of course my group is the one and only true religion on this planet but that's not how to prove it according to God's word which none of them can refute there's nothing any of them can say against my group that's strange among God's people.

So if it's about proving that my group is the one and only true religion then we must follow the testable logic given by the founder of Christianity himself: Jesus Christ.

According to Jesus it's not about what happens to imperfect humans that we are to determine the one and only true religion rather it's about a certain FRUIT expected of God's organization {Matthew 7:16} so if they're ready let's get to work by reading, studying, meditating and judging from the viewpoint of Jesus Himself!

advocatejare:
Is Russel the founder of your cult not a wife abuser who subjected his wife to mental torture?
Is his lifestyle worth emulating?
Did he not fail in the simple task of keeping his home together?
Did he not go against Christ’s teaching on divorce by divorcing his wife?
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today?
Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

MaxInDHouse:
Of course my group is the one and only true religion on this planet but that's not how to prove it according to God's word which none of them can refute there's nothing any of them can say against my group that's strange among God's people.

So if it's about proving that my group is the one and only true religion then we must follow the testable logic given by the founder of Christianity himself: Jesus Christ.

According to Jesus it's not about what happens to imperfect humans that we are to determine the one and only true religion rather it's about a certain FRUIT expected of God's organization {Matthew 7:16} so if they're ready let's get to work by reading, studying, meditating and judging from the viewpoint of Jesus Himself!

Lemme oblige you for a moment, and agree with you. So its only your organization that exhibit these 'fruits'?

jaephoenix:
Lemme oblige you for a moment, and agree with you. So its only your organization that exhibit these 'fruits'?

You don't need to just be neutral as you claim and ask each religionist claiming Christian to prove what the FRUIT is then explain how their religion is bearing it.

Mind you the FRUIT is just one unique thing that God planned to achieve with pure worship so it's not FRUITS but one FRUIT.

Jesus is saying each religion has their own fruit that's what he meant when he said:

By their FRUITS (as in different religions) will produce their own kind of fruit but as for God's organization you need to know the type of fruit expected.

You're an atheist and you trust in testable logic that's approved by your own school of thought not just whatever anyone choose to present so if you're truly neutral ask all these people to present the TESTABLE LOGIC Jesus Christ talked about instead of pointing accusing finger at one another. That's nonsense and Ingredient if they truly want to prove they're for Jesus then they must stick to what he said about how to figure out the true religion! Matthew 7:16-18