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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 1:56pm On Jul 28, 2023
Jodera:
Tbh, e surprise me say Xavi dey lament, especially as he's a so called disciples of Guardiola.

Check it out, Most Guardiola students never ever take any game as "friendly".

And that's because, Pep never see it as one.

I'm surprised really!

I think Arteta upped the physicality after the United game and I love that.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by princeabdul(m): 2:13pm On Jul 28, 2023
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:21pm On Jul 28, 2023
Oldboss:

Xavi no be Guardiola disciple oo he was never a assistant to Guardiola he play like this cause that's how he knew football
Lol, I remember last season when all who were in one way or the other connected to Pep was doing well(and topping their respective leagues) and they also included Xavi and Kompany in the list.

Even though I was against it(cos they didn't work with Pep) but most barca fans were adamant he was. I'm just surprised to see one(you) saying he isn't.

That good grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:23pm On Jul 28, 2023
Roland17:


I think Arteta upped the physicality after the United game and I love that.
Yeah, he even said so after Man u post match conference and that he'll be ready for Barca in terms of intensity. And even though Man u were physical against us, he didn't even lament about it but said it was good for the boys to get upto speed.

It's surprising seeing Xavi saying such sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by PrinceofAgoAre(m): 2:39pm On Jul 28, 2023
What's a barca counter attack to madrid's counter... Does barca even play counter attacking football.
See the match against man.u and knw what counter attack is...
even bayern's counter attack seems deadlier than barca's.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:44pm On Jul 28, 2023
Blueray they have come for you
I like you but you are on your own bro grin grin grin

Today is jumaah oloyin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:28pm On Jul 28, 2023
Jodera:
Yeah, he even said so after Man u post match conference and that he'll be ready for Barca in terms of intensity. And even though Man u were physical against us, he didn't even lament about it but said it was good for the boys to get upto speed.

It's surprising seeing Xavi saying such sha

Yea, he went into that United game with a friendly in mind but United carry another thing for mind with tackles flying everywhere. Well, Na Barcelona come suffer am. This team has improved in terms of physicality. Some of our players have bulked up and are strong on the ball.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:38pm On Jul 28, 2023
Roland17:


Yea, he went into that United game with a friendly in mind but United carry another thing for mind with tackles flying everywhere. Well, Na Barcelona come suffer am. This team has improved in terms of physicality. Some of our players have bulked up and are strong on the ball.
I should not lie after that man u game i was losing faith in the team because of the manner of the defeat
By now arteta suppose know the match to start partey or rice and also when to start them together benching kaikai
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 3:54pm On Jul 28, 2023
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:19pm On Jul 28, 2023
Shegzdave:
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That trophy should have been golden...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 5:05pm On Jul 28, 2023
Roland17:


That trophy should have been golden...
That’s true ..

I hope Arteta surpass his legacies in Arsenal
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 5:30pm On Jul 28, 2023
iamoyindamola:
grin grin Let's count it for them na
grin grin
Oya... congratulations to them. Make Dem use that one hold body till next year.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 5:33pm On Jul 28, 2023
Shegzdave:

If he can score more beautiful goals like like consistently, he’ll be praised and his lack of physicality will be overlooked.

You’re right about Rice being aggressive but none of them is like Xhaka, Iffa hear Zichenko grin, Saliba Na soft boy joor.. only Gabriel comes close, Someone even said he dhould take up that responsibility from Xhaka grin cause I don’t like the way Martinez was acting like an unrefined tout in our last friendly match
I get you bro... But face can be deceiving at times. Shey we no go bring back Gabriel Paulista like this. The guy na proper agbero just that he no dey do am with sense.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:02pm On Jul 28, 2023
Shegzdave:

That’s true ..

I hope Arteta surpass his legacies in Arsenal

Only way he would do that in my books is to bring the UCL trophy to the Emirates.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 8:27pm On Jul 28, 2023
Jodera:
Lol, I remember last season when all who were in one way or the other connected to Pep was doing well(and topping their respective leagues) and they also included Xavi and Kompany in the list.

Even though I was against it(cos they didn't work with Pep) but most barca fans were adamant he was. I'm just surprised to see one(you) saying he isn't.

That good grin
Did Pep work with Cryuff as an assistant?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 8:30pm On Jul 28, 2023
Oldboss:

Xavi no be Guardiola disciple oo he was never a assistant to Guardiola he play like this cause that's how he knew football
Did Pep work as an assistant for Johan Cryuff?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:09pm On Jul 28, 2023
Roland17:


Only way he would do that in my books is to bring the UCL trophy to the Emirates.
E lo fokanbalegrin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:50am On Jul 29, 2023
Roland17:


That trophy should have been golden...
There you go cheesy cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Oldboss(m): 12:04pm On Jul 29, 2023
Jodera:
Lol, I remember last season when all who were in one way or the other connected to Pep was doing well(and topping their respective leagues) and they also included Xavi and Kompany in the list.

Even though I was against it(cos they didn't work with Pep) but most barca fans were adamant he was. I'm just surprised to see one(you) saying he isn't.

That good grin

Well Xavi football style is nothing compare to what Guardiola is doing even during our prime year. against your team we hardly dominated the game even last season we used a lot of counter attack/fast transition on team. Every body has thier opinion sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Oldboss(m): 12:07pm On Jul 29, 2023
Android17:
Did Pep work as an assistant for Johan Cryuff?

Ok this retaining of ball possessions was started by Cryuff. Doesn't mean every body that' want to play that way is a student.
Arsene Wenger was playing the same pattern of football does it also mean he is a student of Cruyff?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:18pm On Jul 29, 2023
Who dey follow EBL and MIT analysis on Twitter. Those two are boss abeg.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 5:16pm On Jul 29, 2023
Oldboss:


Ok this retaining of ball possessions was started by Cryuff. Doesn't mean every body that' want to play that way is a student.
Arsene Wenger was playing the same pattern of football does it also mean he is a student of Cruyff?
No, ball possession was not started by Cruyff. It was total football that Cryuff implemented and "students" of Johan, took some aspects of total football and executed it in their own way. That is what made them his students: the fact that they studied his way of playing and used it as a template for their teams.

And Wenger did not play total football per se. But that's talk for another day.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Oldboss(m): 6:58pm On Jul 29, 2023
Android17:
No, ball possession was not started by Cruyff. It was total football that Cryuff implemented and "students" of Johan, took some aspects of total football and executed it in their own way. That is what made them his students: the fact that they studied his way of playing and used it as a template for their teams.

And Wenger did not play total football per se. But that's talk for another day.

Total Football ball was started in1970 by the Dutch team Finish Michele team and not by Cryuff he was a student His obsession with possession led him to develop a model based on triangles which Pep change to tic taka
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 7:21pm On Jul 29, 2023
Oldboss:


Total Football ball was started in1970 by the Dutch team Finish Michele team and not by Cryuff he was a student His obsession with possession led him to develop a model based on triangles which Pep change to tic taka
Yes because Cruyff was a student of Rinus like Pep was a student of Cruyff. Nobody did copy +paste.

Besides, Wikipedia will mislead if they are your only source of research. Tiki taka just means give me I give you. What Pep did with Cruyff's system is he made it more about the positions players take rather than their fixed role. In Cruyff's as was in Rinus' the players advanced the ball together but in short possessions and movement. Pep made it more dynamic.

The point is, one can also argue he was not a student of Cruyff since he never worked as an assistant. What makes manager's create their own lane is what the system is built on. Klopp copies Pep as well but nobody calls him Pep's student because his core was not built on the same positional play even though he stole other elements out of it.

That is why Arteta, Ten Hag, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Kompany etc are STUDENTS of Pep.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:19am On Jul 30, 2023
Android17:
Yes because Cruyff was a student of Rinus like Pep was a student of Cruyff. Nobody did copy +paste.

Besides, Wikipedia will mislead if they are your only source of research. Tiki taka just means give me I give you. What Pep did with Cruyff's system is he made it more about the positions players take rather than their fixed role. In Cruyff's as was in Rinus' the players advanced the ball together but in short possessions and movement. Pep made it more dynamic.

The point is, one can also argue he was not a student of Cruyff since he never worked as an assistant. What makes manager's create their own lane is what the system is built on. Klopp copies Pep as well but nobody calls him Pep's student because his core was not built on the same positional play even though he stole other elements out of it.

That is why Arteta, Ten Hag, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Kompany etc are STUDENTS of Pep.
You do know some of Pep's idea are from these so-called students right?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Android17: 2:46pm On Jul 30, 2023
mostob:
You do know some of Pep's idea are from these so-called students right?
The students that started coaching before him or what?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:29pm On Jul 30, 2023
Turner want to leave, raya is the replacement
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:38pm On Jul 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Turner want to leave, raya is the replacement
I saw this. I don't blame Turner. We need someone who can really challenge Ramsdale. Raya is OK.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:39pm On Jul 30, 2023
Android17:
The students that started coaching before him or what?
There are aspects of coaching that coach learn from each other. However, a student remains a student and a rabbi a rabbi.

Pep may have learnt one or two things from Arteta, but Arteta remains his student.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:42pm On Jul 30, 2023
Android17:
The students that started coaching before him or what?
The one he is currently coaching, those he has coached before and those that have worked as his assistant.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 3:42pm On Jul 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Turner want to leave, raya is the replacement
Chai...where we want get a good goalkeeper now?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:46pm On Jul 30, 2023
mostob:
Chai...where we want get a good goalkeeper now?
Raya is way better than turner
He was suppose to be our first keeper before we got ramsdale

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