Probably not, if she makes it past triage which i doubt, she ll get seen by Psych Liaison. If no imminent threat to herself or others, she ll be discharged to the care of her GP or community mental health team.

I would say Try your GP first. Private can cost up to £60/hr
I hope you get through this alright.

Lexusgs430:


Or admit yourself to A&E........ Once you are diagnosed with a mental health challenge, you would be very quickly referred..........😂

Congratulations.
Now pay yourself 1k first ( savings for yourself). Pay rent and utilities. The rest na olingo money. Enjoy !

gmacnoms:
So, na this pounds una Dey enjoy for this uk? I just received my first full pay. Omo 😁😁😁

I don call agent make them go find house for Lekki for me. I wan full house tomorrow 😁

missjekyll:
Congratulations.
Now pay yourself 1k first ( savings for yourself). Pay rent and utilities. The rest na olingo money. Enjoy !

Olingo. 1K savings? How much be the salary gan gan. E even reach 1k? 😁😁

My bad. I should take the 1k out. But paying yourself first remains.

gmacnoms:
Olingo. 1K savings? How much be the salary gan gan. E even reach 1k? 😁😁

missjekyll:
My bad. I should take the 1k out. But paying yourself first remains.

That’s true. Once I pay lapo and fair money their loan, I’ll start paying myself

ericadianas:
Hello Everyone,

Thank you so much for the support here.

I am coming in as a Dependent next month and I just need a little clarity so I can properly prepare.

I have 2 years of product management experience in Nigeria and also another 2 years of technical recruitment, however, but I am very open to other types of jobs to start with. For example, health care assistant, customer service, retail sales, tutoring, etc till I can get a proper tech job.

I have been researching and seeing people talk about getting a Police Clearance Certificate, PCC, in Nigeria and also a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check in the UK. I want to stay prepared for anything.

So my questions are:

1. Do I really need to do a PCC in Nigeria? like what relevance does a PCC have?
2. What's the exact difference between PCC and DBS? Like when is each one applicable?

Thanks a lot for your responses.

It’s better to get your PCC handy before you leave Nigeria. Any job that requires you dealing with humans directly will require it. DBS is when you’re in the uk already

Both DBS and PCC (if dealing with humans directly) are needed as part of your onboarding process and pre employment background checks for any job in the UK.

Focus99:
Now that students (MA) are not allowed to switch visa till they graduate can dependent switch while the MA join as their dependent upon graduation?

yes

gmacnoms:
So, na this pounds una Dey enjoy for this uk? I just received my first full pay. Omo 😁😁😁

I don call agent make them go find house for Lekki for me. I wan full house tomorrow 😁

Lekki too small..make I give you my agent number for banana island 😁

Santa2:


Lekki too small..make I give you my agent number for banana island 😁

🤣🤣🤣🤣. Soon. Once pounds reach 5k

Thanks a lot.

I understand better now.

Goke7:


It’s better to get your PCC handy before you leave Nigeria. Any job that requires you dealing with humans directly will require it. DBS is when you’re in the uk already

Both DBS and PCC (if dealing with humans directly) are needed as part of your onboarding process and pre employment background checks for any job in the UK.

missjekyll:
Probably not, if she makes it past triage which i doubt, she ll get seen by Psych Liaison. If no imminent threat to herself or others, she ll be discharged to the care of her GP or community mental health team.

I would say Try your GP first. Private can cost up to £60/hr
I hope you get through this alright.

If she says the right things....... She would even receive 1:1 care .........😂

NB : KEYWORDS......🤣😜

Look out for NGOs offering mental health therapy, might come in handy. If you are student, visit your student center and ask for help there.

tinutunde:
Please I need a therapist,mental health issue is driving me crazy

tinutunde:
Please I need a therapist,mental health issue is driving me crazy

@ tinutunde
I’d rather dm @ Lexusgs430 to get in touch.

Lexusgs430:


If she says the right things....... She would even receive 1:1 care .........😂

NB : KEYWORDS......🤣😜

UPDATE: they have sent the mail since last week but haven’t heard from the council, seems they are contemplating, Their previous replies before this mail is ussually less than 24hrs.

davide470:
On this, I helped draft the email below and so far, I have had 100% success rate from people I shared with. Let the student send this to the council ccing the partner.

Good evening,
My name is xx, a full-time international student at xx University and my partner's name is xx.
I reside at xx. I had initially requested a council tax exemption as a full-time student but was told my partner is a liable party for council tax because he is not a full-time student. We received the attached bill to this effect for the period xx 2022 - xx 2023 wherein it was split into xx equal installments.

However, Article 3 of the Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) Order, SI 1992/558 provides that 'A dwelling is exempt from council tax if it falls within any of the following Class N: a dwelling which is either:
(a) occupied by one or more residents all of whom are relevant persons;
(b) occupied only by one or more relevant persons as term time accommodation.

A relevant person means:
(i) a student;
(ii) a student's spouse or dependant being in each case a person who is not a British citizen and who is prevented, by the terms of his leave to enter or remain in the UK, from taking paid employment or from claiming benefits or (iii) a person to whom Class C (school or college leavers) of regulation 3(1) of the Council Tax (Additional Provision for Discount Disregards) Regulation 1992 applies.

From the foregoing, please note that I belong to category a(i) I am a student and my partner belongs to category a(ii) he is the spouse of a student. We are both non-British citizens and his visa prevents him from claiming benefits. Subsequently, we qualify for the 100% council tax exemption.

Furthermore, please see below links citing cases whereby 100% exemptions were granted to student dependants by the Court:
https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5a8ff72860d03e7f57ea8dcf/amp
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/local-government/65852.article

We look forward to your kind response..


Councils dread court cases most times as it does not make sense to be dragged to court for £150/m tax.

Quick Question: when can a student switch as a dependent of a tier 2 visa ? Does the student have to wait till graduation?

tinutunde:
Please I need a therapist,mental health issue is driving me crazy

If you leave in Scotland you could get one easily or quickly today by calling the out-of-hours @ 111.

I love your outlook towards this whole thing.
I’m a chartered accountant from Nigeria, came on student’s visa.
Really have no intention of getting care COS except as a last resort.

I’m really hoping to get a job in the four months after school before students visa expires and I have to pay for PSW.

However, PSW is an option too.
My husband currently works in care. I don’t want him to get stuck there.

Meanwhile, where you de see £17/hr shift?
Give your sister connect na

Schoolhike:


Sincerely not telling you what to do,

I think you still have much time to spend on your current visa, you could try get job related to your career path without cos and get your Uk experience, even 4months Uk experience will do.m you to keep going.

Moving from a COS to another COS ain’t that easy, most especially say moving from a care cos to another skilled visa, some employers now even require you to work with them for some time before issuing COS.

Sincerely the care job is not that easy, I did it for a year and I can tell you it ain’t easy, I was making lots of money in it with an average pay of 17£/hr through out the 1 year, although I was happy that I was making money from it at first but at a point I got stressed out and even seeing shift of 15-20£/hr doesn’t motivate me, I just got tired, basically work mostly with NHS and some other time in care home, did domiciliary for one week I ran away cos it doesnt sit well in my mind to be using part of my salary to repair the car as a result of heavy usage because the one last thing you wouldn’t want you to happen is your car getting spoilt and you having the need to go to mechanic, I don’t think I’ve ever visited the mechanic without spending a minimum of 100£ for just a visit which is almost like a day pay after tax)

If you have the means to pursue another job, sincerely go for it, (just assume in your mind that say there is not CARE sponsorship won’t I pursue something else)

Sincerely I’m not berating the job, but it’s really tiring at a point. But if that’s the only option you’ve got to keep bills going then go for it but not for sponsorship(if you’ve got other means), maybe just to make your money and have the flexibility to look for jobs.

Another thing that I learnt was that getting ILR by taking up care COS does not mean you won’t work anymore or work less as a result of having settled visa in this Uk with lots of recurring bills, my experience having worked with lots of people across different places, I discovered that people still get stuck in a particular job even people that are settled already.

(NB: please note that I’m only saying this only for people who have got other options and you your self knows this in your mind)

Just take it as a last resort maybe when there is no other means as I do believe in my own opinion that having a care COS is better that being sent back to 9ja.

Lots of people are taking care COS because of different circumstances which are valid (like family of 5 paying for IHS and visa which is very expensive but had to take the care COS or like people that have issue with school and some other reasons, or people trying to leave 9ja via the care route).

Sincerely, in my opinion if you’ve got options other than the care visa try to explore it.

We don’t need to be too scared if the current company don’t have sponsorship in as much as you still have a longer validity on the visa. We have seen people here give testimonies about their coy registering for sponsorship because the company don’t want to loose them, I have a personal friend that was sponsored infact his coy pay for his visa and IHS no refund after paying to get sponsorship licence.


Wish us all success.

Good afternoon my seniors. Please, I have an issue disturbing me and need advice. I received a text message from my care home manager last Friday that I have been taken off my normal shift (night) because of concerns of safety of service users and myself. I called her and asked what the concerns were and she said they reported me for sleeping.

I was very upset and had to narrate all that has been happening to her because she just came to the home and the former manager was lied against and she left the place on a forced leave by the same set of people that lied against me.

They sleep on shift and I am the one that do their checks at night. I asked her if she ever checked online to corroborate what they told her against the night checks because I am the one always doing theirs when they sleep off sometimes for 5 hours they are asleep on night shifts. She said she will check I told her I can't do day shifts because of childcare.

Now she has arranged for a meeting with the HR because I told her everything that those staff have been doing, not working, leaving all the work for me to do, making calls loudly and disturbing the service users at night, sleeping on shift and many more.

My issue is this when they started these lies immediately I joined the organisation one of the staff told me to start keeping evidences. For sleeping the only concrete evidence I have is pictures of them and videos of them sleeping at different times that I have taken, it is against the Company's policy to snap anyone without their consent. Please how do I go about using these evidences to exonerate myself of this allegations as they have tried every means to get me and this is the only lie they could come up with. Can I show the HR the pictures and videos and let her know that I had to do it as I have seen the signs of them trying to frame me up? Please I need advise before my meeting with her. Thank you all.

Oyi12:
Good afternoon my seniors. Please, I have an issue disturbing me and need advice. I received a text message from my care home manager last Friday that I have been taken off my normal shift (night) because of concerns of safety of service users and myself. I called her and asked what the concerns were and she said they reported me for sleeping.

I was very upset and had to narrate all that has been happening to her because she just came to the home and the former manager was lied against and she left the place on a forced leave by the same set of people that lied against me.

They sleep on shift and I am the one that do their checks at night. I asked her if she ever checked online to corroborate what they told her against the night checks because I am the one always doing theirs when they sleep off sometimes for 5 hours they are asleep on night shifts. She said she will check I told her I can't do day shifts because of childcare.

Now she has arranged for a meeting with the HR because I told her everything that those staff have been doing, not working, leaving all the work for me to do, making calls loudly and disturbing the service users at night, sleeping on shift and many more.

My issue is this when they started these lies immediately I joined the organisation one of the staff told me to start keeping evidences. For sleeping the only concrete evidence I have is pictures of them and videos of them sleeping at different times that I have taken, it is against the Company's policy to snap anyone without their consent. Please how do I go about using these evidences to exonerate myself of this allegations as they have tried every means to get me and this is the only lie they could come up with. Can I show the HR the pictures and videos and let her know that I had to do it as I have seen the signs of them trying to frame me up? Please I need advise before my meeting with her. Thank you all.

I think the evidences that showed you did all the checks at nights while they're sleeping should be fine.


No need for further evidences and other snapping of someone sleeping.

Happyfellow147:
I love your outlook towards this whole thing
…………….
Meanwhile, where you de see £17/hr shift?
Give your sister connect na

That’s my average working house in Scotland, I drive so that’s an edge for me to work at places with better pay. Works with different agency then, Florence, Allied&Clinical, etc

Sometime it’s more than that, once worked 40£/hr for a day shift, 25-35£/hr for bank holidays.

But been hearing lots of info lately that people are no more getting shift like before really scarce, so people are back to doing 13£,14£,15£ etc but few are still getting range of 17-25£/hr for weekends and night shift.

Scotland nhs pays bank staff around 17-21£/hr for weekends I think. Some agencies pays higher.

All depends on your agency shaa, don’t have much info anymore.

Those "keywords" , as you call them, will go into her permanent medical record. She may even get a section out of it and a trip to a mental hospital.Yippee !
When all she needs may be some medication or talking therapy the GP can arrange.
Always a bad idea to lie to your doctor.
Always.

Lexusgs430:


If she says the right things....... She would even receive 1:1 care .........😂

NB : KEYWORDS......🤣😜

Should we be scared or the usual rumour mongers at work? In the letter is mentioned 3 years ILR which doesn't make sense What do you think?

Oyi12:
Good afternoon my seniors. Please, I have an issue disturbing me and need advice. I received a text message from my care home manager last Friday that I have been taken off my normal shift (night) because of concerns of safety of service users and myself. I called her and asked what the concerns were and she said they reported me for sleeping.

Would advise you not to show those pics or videos to anyone since it's against the company's policy. Heard of a similar situation here previously, and both the staff member who was sleeping and the one who took the pictures (because it was not allowed) were both dismissed.

During the Meeting
1. Before presenting your side, understand what specific allegations have been made against you.
2. Stay calm and professional, regardless of how emotional or personal the matter is, remember to maintain your composure.
3. Stick to the facts, discuss the situation without resorting to personal attacks on other staff members.
4. Address the issue of you handling night checks for others, make it clear that you've been proactive in your duties, even covering for others.
5. Ensure to discuss your limitations regarding day shifts due to childcare. Perhaps you can also provide proof or reasoning that necessitates you working night shifts.
6. Before your meeting, consider seeking legal advice or speaking to a union representative if you have one. They may be able to offer more specific guidance tailored to your situation and local employment laws.

Lastly, consider if this workplace environment is healthy for you in the long run. A hostile work environment can be detrimental to both your professional growth and personal well-being.

You could recommend (
1. If the company utilizes PCs or tablets to log night checks, then the timestamps can be referenced to determine who was actively recording care at specific times.
2. Additionally, to demonstrate my commitment to my responsibilities, I'm willing to consent to be photographed by other staff if ever they find me sleeping on duty.)

bigtt76:
Should we be scared or the usual rumour mongers at work? In the letter is mentioned 3 years ILR which doesn't make sense What do you think?

The letter mostly looks and sounds authentic.I'd query the dates highlighted by HO as they are outside of the student visa expiry date, not sure that still counts as term time?
I have heard of a few cases recently where leave has been cancelled or refused due to working over 20 hours so it does sound like HO is taking a firmer stance.

Oyi12:
Good afternoon my seniors. Please, I have an issue disturbing me and need advice. I received a text message from my care home manager last Friday that I have been taken off my normal shift (night) because of concerns of safety of service users and myself. I called her and asked what the concerns were and she said they reported me for sleeping.

I was very upset and had to narrate all that has been happening to her because she just came to the home and the former manager was lied against and she left the place on a forced leave by the same set of people that lied against me.

They sleep on shift and I am the one that do their checks at night. I asked her if she ever checked online to corroborate what they told her against the night checks because I am the one always doing theirs when they sleep off sometimes for 5 hours they are asleep on night shifts. She said she will check I told her I can't do day shifts because of childcare.

Now she has arranged for a meeting with the HR because I told her everything that those staff have been doing, not working, leaving all the work for me to do, making calls loudly and disturbing the service users at night, sleeping on shift and many more.

My issue is this when they started these lies immediately I joined the organisation one of the staff told me to start keeping evidences. For sleeping the only concrete evidence I have is pictures of them and videos of them sleeping at different times that I have taken, it is against the Company's policy to snap anyone without their consent. Please how do I go about using these evidences to exonerate myself of this allegations as they have tried every means to get me and this is the only lie they could come up with. Can I show the HR the pictures and videos and let her know that I had to do it as I have seen the signs of them trying to frame me up? Please I need advise before my meeting with her. Thank you all.

Schoolhike has said broken it down very well, and I suggest you follow that. Only thing I'd say in addition is that when you go to that meeting, let them know you want a written record of the meeting in general and all allegations against you (and the evidence) in particular. Based on the contents of that record and the outcome of the meeting, you'll be in a better position to decide if and how to use the evidence you have.

Oyi12:

My issue is this when they started these lies immediately I joined the organisation one of the staff told me to start keeping evidences. For sleeping the only concrete evidence I have is pictures of them and videos of them sleeping at different times that I have taken, it is against the Company's policy to snap anyone without their consent. Please how do I go about using these evidences to exonerate myself of this allegations as they have tried every means to get me and this is the only lie they could come up with. Can I show the HR the pictures and videos and let her know that I had to do it as I have seen the signs of them trying to frame me up? Please I need advise before my meeting with her. Thank you all.

My only contribution to this is if the accusations against you are false but upheld, tender the evidences you have. Let everybody bear the heat.

bigtt76:
Should we be scared or the usual rumour mongers at work? In the letter is mentioned 3 years ILR which doesn't make sense What do you think?

Didn't mention ILR. It mentioned leave to remain which is the technical term for a visa that grants residency status (even temporary).

I don't see any reason to doubt that it's real. Only thing I'd point out is that what they both have in common is switching before finishing their studies. Maybe that's why they had additional scrutiny?

Edit: I actually doubt these, especially the one that says 'Tier 2' because I don't think HO uses that term anymore since the end of 2020.

koonbey:


Didn't mention ILR. It mentioned leave to remain which is the technical term for a visa that grants residency status (even temporary).

I don't see any reason to doubt that it's real. Only thing I'd point out is that what they both have in common is switching before finishing their studies. Maybe that's why they had additional scrutiny?

Edit: I actually doubt these, especially the one that says 'Tier 2' because I don't think HO uses that term anymore since the end of 2020.

Those letters are 100% genuine.

There's no reason why HO should not use the term "Tier 2" in official communication. Its a valid visa category and you can find the terminology on their website just like Tier 1, Tier 5, etc.

Schoolhike:


Would advise you not to show those pics or videos to anyone since it's against the company's policy. Heard of a similar situation here previously, and both the staff member who was sleeping and the one who took the pictures (because it was not allowed) were both dismissed.

During the Meeting
1. Before presenting your side, understand what specific allegations have been made against you.
2. Stay calm and professional, regardless of how emotional or personal the matter is, remember to maintain your composure.
3. Stick to the facts, discuss the situation without resorting to personal attacks on other staff members.
4. Address the issue of you handling night checks for others, make it clear that you've been proactive in your duties, even covering for others.
5. Ensure to discuss your limitations regarding day shifts due to childcare. Perhaps you can also provide proof or reasoning that necessitates you working night shifts.
6. Before your meeting, consider seeking legal advice or speaking to a union representative if you have one. They may be able to offer more specific guidance tailored to your situation and local employment laws.

Lastly, consider if this workplace environment is healthy for you in the long run. A hostile work environment can be detrimental to both your professional growth and personal well-being.

You could recommend (
1. If the company utilizes PCs or tablets to log night checks, then the timestamps can be referenced to determine who was actively recording care at specific times.
2. Additionally, to demonstrate my commitment to my responsibilities, I'm willing to consent to be photographed by other staff if ever they find me sleeping on duty.)

Thanks everyone for your input. This is my mind-set too but I heard that the checks gets wipe off after 1-2 months. I pray they can view them though.

I am already planning to leave but wouldn't want to have those allegations against me knowing they are lies. Secondly, I wouldn't want the bad ones who only grumble about the job and don't do their work keep framing and lying against the hard working ones. I have some Nigerians starting in the same home and might face the same challenge if I just let it slide.

Thank you for your advice about the pictures and videos. The union I belong to is for my main job with the NHS so I don't think I can ask them for advise about this job.

I will present my case clearly as advised but I am quite disappointed that the manager didn't border checking the records at all but onlysaid she was going to checkafter i asked her. Even if they check those records, they always have a backup lie like they inputted but the network was bad so it didn't record but I input everytime and it goes. Hence my reason for wanting to show the pictures but I won't show it again.

Ralphlauren:


Those letters are 100% genuine.

There's no reason why HO should not use the term "Tier 2" in official communication. Its a valid visa category and you can find the terminology on their website just like Tier 1, Tier 5, etc.

Send a link to an official immigration website where the tier categories are used as a current term, not in reference to their past usage.

Viruses:


My only contribution to this is if the accusations against you are false but upheld, tender the evidences you have. Let everybody bear the heat.

Last resort when she’s not interested in the job anymore,

She could give a resignation letter and then tender the evidences against them.

As a result, her reason to another prospective employer asking for why she left the job wouldn’t be that the employer sacked her.

With that, such thing wouldn’t happen to others coming to join the company or deter others from framing people up.