Mods, don't think I'm unaware that you closed my thread on Islam using ancient rites borrowed from Orisha. By the way, I also know my moniker is under watch and review. Its a game of cat and rat but I will put that to the side.

I am born into muslim family but my family is not an ignorant one. We are very knowledgeable in what Islam is, and we never deny our spirituality in Yoruba traditional culture. We do not follow any Imam or man to teach us about Allah. We get our knowledge of Allah direct from Quran.

I will challenge any muslim here on this forum who denies that Ifa is not accepted in Islam. I will also challenge any muslim who denies that salat are rituals borrowed from Orisha worshippers.

The challenge will allow audience to learn. Instead of closing my thread allow open debate so people can learn and free their minds from bondage of religion.

Thanks mods!

Tell us why your religion support killings, anger, fighting? Why does the religion support killing as a retaliation? So many case of man slaughter under this religion. Like what's going on. Even threatening to kill worshipers of the traditional religion. Like what's going on? Who are they emulating in all these

MetaPhysical:
Mods, don't think I'm unaware that you closed my thread on Islam using ancient rites borrowed from Orisha. By the way, I also know my moniker is under watch and review. Its a game of cat and rat but I will put that to the side.

I am born into muslim family but my family is not an ignorant one. We are very knowledgeable in what Islam is, and we never deny our spirituality in Yoruba traditional culture. We do not follow any Imam or man to teach us about Allah. We get our knowledge of Allah direct from Quran.

I will challenge any muslim here on this forum who denies that Ifa is not accepted in Islam. I will also challenge any muslim who denies that salat are rituals borrowed from Orisha worshippers.

The challenge will allow audience to learn. Instead of closing my thread allow open debate so people can learn and free their minds from bondage of religion.

Thanks mods!

You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?

I never knew you were Yoruba Muslim, Submission like this is why Northern muslims see you as infidels, My grandma was a Muslim and I can't even be this flimsy with Islam

MrSinister:


You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?

That religion is for the Arabs. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you.

Everything belonging to the whites and Arabs etc you covet.
You worship their white Hesus and Arab Mohammed, you run to their country
you lust after their women
you even covet their football clubs etc

Fvcking losers.

Zooposki:


That religion is for the Arabs. Go and look for yours. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you. Low IQ Africans.

Religion is just about personal choice and satisfaction, I believe the gods have their own problems and attends to ours on their spare however do not blasphem others religion, live and let live thats all

lol you religious lunatics are disgusting go worship your indigenous gods at least

Zooposki:


That religion is for the Arabs. Go and look for yours. You worship an Arab Mohammed and Arab Allah. No wonder your continent/country is a shithole, cos their god don’t hear your prayers and have no regards for you. Low IQ Africans.

For the Arabs?! Are you kidding me? You need to be enlightened.

Zooposki:


STFU before I descend on you. Low IQ African man.

What do you know about IQ, I accept your challenge, bring your subject let's see who got sound arguments,

MrSinister:


For the Arabs?! Are you kidding me? You need to be enlightened.

No, the Arabian god belongs to your black African ass.

Zooposki:


No, the Arabian god belongs to your black African ass.

Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.

AlexBells:
What do you know about IQ, I accept your challenge, bring your subject let's see who got sound arguments,

The time for being rational and presenting factual and logical arguments is over. I now deal in vawulence and wotowoto if you write garbage. This is a year of absolute terror on every Nairalander that cannot elevate beyond their mumuness.

MrSinister:


Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.

What can be more idolatrous than Islam and Christianity, the worship of stone and wood?

Omo I don't even know what is going on anymore.
I will post something on politics and try to check the thread but nothing appears. If I can't even see my post how then can others? They can continue, this is just a small platform anyways, the growth of the platform is largely a mirage with this their systemic pattern of stifling dissenting voices.

Zooposki:


What can be more idolatrous than Islam and Christianity, the worship of stone and wood.

You are displaying more that you need proper education on the two most Dominant religions in the world. There is no idol worship in either of the two.

Opposite is islam Bomb 💣 extremist in all ramifications.

Zooposki:


The time for being rational and presenting factual and logical arguments is over. I now deal in vawulence and wotowoto if you write garbage. This is a year of absolute terror on every Nairalander that cannot elevate beyond their mumuness.

That proves that your loosely throwing the term IQ around was an intellectual deterrent to shift attention from your lacks

AlexBells:
That proves that your loosely throwing the term IQ around was an intellectual deterrent to shift attention from your lacks

You definitely can’t goad me into a debate. My message will be presented in a vawulence way until I decide to chill and be more rational. I miss the days of LogicBoy when we use to argue over religious issues. I guess I got burnt out.

Zooposki:


You definitely can’t goad me into a debate. My message will be presented in a vawulence way until I decide to chill and be more rational. I miss the days of LogicBoy when we use to argue over religious issues. I guess I got burnt out.

You are already debating, just that now it is rather to defend your vawulence than showcase your intellect, what do you think debate is about ?

MrSinister:


You are well on your way to heresy. Hope you know what the Quran says about people like that?

How does the Quran define heresy?

AlexBells:
I never knew you were Yoruba Muslim, Submission like this is why Northern muslims see you as infidels, My grandma was a Muslim and I can't even be this flimsy with Islam

If you accept Northern Islam as the model of God's teachings, then I can understand why anyone oppose to their practice will be infidels. In which case, I wear my infidelity with pride.

AlexBells:

Religion is just about personal choice and satisfaction, I believe the gods have their own problems and attends to ours on their spare however do not blasphem others religion, live and let live thats all

You missed his point.

Is the Arab Allah different from Arewa Allah, or any other Allah in Africa?

MrSinister:


Like I said, some enlightenment will do you a lot of good. Islam played a key role in raising the consciousness of the whole world and stamping out the idolatry you shameless promote.

Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.

MetaPhysical:


If you accept Northern Islam as the model of God's teachings, then I can understand why anyone oppose to their practice will be infidels. In which case, I wear my infidelity with pride.

I think the summary is that Yorubas and North should quite the pretense and accept that the two people are different. I really do not rate a Northern Muslim over a Yoruba Muslim however the liberalism and adulteration of Islam by Yorubas is creating an entirely different religion

MetaPhysical:


Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.

There’s a big difference between knowledge and faith, that’s the things you Yorubas have failed to understand, yes to some extent you can be regarded as civilized but juxtaposing knowledge and faith would create a confusion, now today you have Isese day in most of south west, this is in the valuation of your traditional religion, even England adopted Christianity let’s not forget that they are not even the originator so once you begin to hybridize faith with knowledge and tradition, you create a different existence by which the original practitioner of the former fate has justification to refer to you as infidel

MetaPhysical:


How does the Quran define heresy?

Does linking known and accepted Islam rites to a polytheistic African traditional practice not sound like heresy to you? Or you think it's about technicalities and definitions?

MetaPhysical:


Islam rose out of idolatry, in its rituals there are still plenty elements of idolatry.

When we face East for prayer, we are borrowing from practices established in the worship of Horus, long before Islam. The practice of bowing to the glory of the Sun-god.

More heretical statements from you. There are places you would make these comments and be lynched. Be careful.

MrSinister:


More heretical statements from you. There are places you would make these comments and be lynched. Be careful.

I guess you are comfortable hiding behind labels, you are devoid of the intellect to challenge my claims.

I am proud of my claims, lay yours out if you have pride in your belief.

MrSinister:


Does linking known and accepted Islam rites to a polytheistic African traditional practice not sound like heresy to you? Or you think it's about technicalities and definitions?

It does not. The Quran is authority on what is Islamic and what is not. Not some sheikh.

Tell me what Quran says about heresy, and stop beating around the bush.

AlexBells:

There’s a big difference between knowledge and faith, that’s the things you Yorubas have failed to understand, yes to some extent you can be regarded as civilized but juxtaposing knowledge and faith would create a confusion, now today you have Isese day in most of south west, this is in the valuation of your traditional religion, even England adopted Christianity let’s not forget that they are not even the originator so once you begin to hybridize faith with knowledge and tradition, you create a different existence by which the original practitioner of the former fate has justification to refer to you as infidel

Again, when it comes to Islam, the authority is the Quran. The Quran is explicit on who is infidel and who is not. Did the QUran tell you Yoruba people are infidels? Or this is just your fanthom imagination and play with emotional words?

MetaPhysical:


Again, when it comes to Islam, the authority is the Quran. The Quran is explicit on who is infidel and who is not. Did the QUran tell you Yoruba people are infidels? Or this is just your fanthom imagination and play with emotional words?

Quran specifically did not call any people infidels but you are Adulterating the Koran, even though there are lots of connection between the Qoran and Bible, they are different and if you add or remove, that would be wrong,

You are claiming how a certain Islamic practice came from so and so, but it is not The borrowed anymore but Islamic, treat it as distinct, when you want to practice the other borrowed practice, treat it as distinct, this should be very simple to understand, don't mix them, keep it pure, petrol comes from crude oil but petrol is petrol and you can't drive your car with non refined crude