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preciousee17:
Oga, you are right.

The funniest part is that I had said Balaam was greedy before even knowing that Jude supports, and I found Jude while putting Balaam as keyword so I could find the story (since I didn't see the exact place).
If I (anyone) could read and have this understanding on my own, then the book of Jude (amongst many other books) prove it as well, then I'm okay with myself.

For you, you are right!

When you and other theists are done dodging the truth, you would know how error strewn your Bible is

Next question from that passage….
Is Yahweh omniscient?

jaephoenix:
When you and other theists are done dodging the truth, you would know how error strewn your Bible is

Cheers!

Jesus, this is long. Actually wanted to respond but won't waste my time doing this given it won't change the writer's mind.

Pecuman:
Jesus, this is long. Actually wanted to respond but won't waste my time doing this given it won't change the writer's mind.

Haha, even if you did, you'd be spun around a circle until you realize your answers could never be accepted

preciousee17:
Haha, even if you did, you'd be spun around a circle until you realize your answers could never be accepted

True dat

jaephoenix:
Definitions don't update. Its the language that is.
The definitions don't change.
Learn English language. I suggest you begin from kindergarten

Go and use English cohabit peacefully with your neighbours and forget about whether God exist or not!

jaephoenix:
I have never seem you argue with atheists to know about us. So why should I argue with you to know about JW?

Ọmọ if you don't believe in God noone will force you but whatever question you have we will answer to show you what we believe that's working out perfectly among us.

jaephoenix:
Good. So he is all knowing and omniscient right? Yeso or no

What do you mean by all knowing and Omniscient?

cornelboy:
What do you mean by all knowing and Omniscient?

What those misinformed religionists concluded and wrote in the dictionary is what he wanted to use as the bases of his judgment.
Omniscient is a presumptuous term because the true God knows how everything He created works but as for what each intelligent mind will choose to do between good and evil that largely depends on the disposition of the person in question.

MaxInDHouse:
What those misinformed religionists concluded and wrote in the dictionary is what he wanted to use as the bases of his judgment.
Omniscient is a presumptuous term because the true God knows how everything He created works but as for what each intelligent mind will choose to do between good and evil that largely depends on the disposition of the person in question.

Even the definition of Omniscient is not ambiguous. It's simply "having total knowledge". God has the total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera.

That knowledge doesn't include our choices between good and bad and the outcome of our choices.
And there's nothing like destiny. Nothing is fixed.

cornelboy:
Even the definition of Omniscient is not ambiguous. It's simply "having total knowledge". God has the total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera. That knowledge doesn't include our choices between good and bad and the outcome of our choices. And there's nothing like destiny. Nothing is fixed.

Atheists will not agree with you because that word to them means God should be able to determine what each intelligent beings with freewill would turn out to be!

MaxInDHouse:
Atheists will not agree with you because that word to them means God should be able to determine what each intelligent beings with freewill would turn out to be!

That's completely dishonest.
Dem go argue tire lol

For example, when Satan was tempting eve and Adam, God could see what was happening but he didn't know how it would ended because of the free will he gave man. He couldn't control it. He had most likely trusted Adam to make the right choice but he was disappointed.

Yet God has the ultimate power to predict the future accurately.
He indeed has a future he's planned for us

cornelboy:
That's completely dishonest.
Dem go argue tire lol
For example, when Satan was tempting eve and Adam, God could see what was happening but he didn't know how it would ended because of the free will he gave man. He couldn't control it. He had most likely trusted Adam to make the right choice but he was disappointed. Yet God has the ultimate power to predict the future accurately.
He indeed has a future he's planned for us

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cornelboy!

Atheists will never agree with you on the highlighted because they wish everyone is as easy as misinformed religionists that they can push here and there with their schemes!

MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cornelboy!

Atheists will never agree with you on the highlighted because they wish everyone is as easy as misinformed religionists that they can push here and there with their schemes!

It's not for the atheists. Even the misinformed church goers might not agree with that.
I'm just expressing my understanding of the matter to you.

If there is something your god does not know he is not all knowing.
The english is straightforward na.

cornelboy:

It's not for the atheists. Even the misinformed church goers might not agree with that.
I'm just expressing my understanding of the matter to you.

Of course that's the weapon he's holding against them since they believe their God has destined everything the atheist has been given the upper hand to rubbish their God who knew and destined everything to make them suffer!

Pecuman:
Jesus, this is long. Actually wanted to respond but won't waste my time doing this given it won't change the writer's mind.

A defeatist attitude. If you have facts, do let us have it. You never know. You could change my minds if you have legit response

preciousee17:
Haha, even if you did, you'd be spun around a circle until you realize your answers could never be accepted

If you're honest to yourself, you'll know you haven't explained that Numbers story. Even the addendum I asked you, you ignored it

MaxInDHouse:
Go and use English cohabit peacefully with your neighbours and forget about whether God exist or not!

You're not even cohabiting with me, never mind your neighbors. See how you dodged my questions and jumped into cohabitation. Did I tell you I'm homeless?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if you don't believe in God noone will force you but whatever question you have we will answer to show you what we believe that's working out perfectly among us.

Lol. When you don't even understand what omniscient means, you wanna engage me. Kindergarten grammar is really a problem for you

cornelboy:
What do you mean by all knowing and Omniscient?

Ah ha!
Finally he's getting it. Your bro MadMax said omniscient isn't in the Bible and what is there is all knowing. Nigga doesn't know they mean the same. And you're shooting y'all in the foot. Lol

MaxInDHouse:
What those misinformed religionists concluded and wrote in the dictionary is what he wanted to use as the bases of his judgment.
Omniscient is a presumptuous term because the true God knows how everything He created works but as for what each intelligent mind will choose to do between good and evil that largely depends on the disposition of the person in question.

Oh, so its theists that wrote the dictionary? Lol. MadMax you need to take your psychotic drugs. You have lost touch with reality

cornelboy:
Even the definition of Omniscient is not ambiguous. It's simply "having total knowledge". God has the total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera.

That knowledge doesn't include our choices between good and bad and the outcome of our choices.
And there's nothing like destiny. Nothing is fixed.

Lol. What is the difference between 'Total knowledge' and 'total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera'. Doesn't the word total knowledge cover everything?
At the bolded, this is simply risible. Lol. So 'total knowledge' doesnt include knowledge of our choices? Lol
Education is really a problem for some people.
Lets start from simple grammar. What do you understand by 'total?'
By the way, if you say Yahweh doesn't know our choices, what do you understand by the boldest words quoted from that your bible…

Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for[b] the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. [/b]If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

MaxInDHouse:
Atheists will not agree with you because that word to them means God should be able to determine what each intelligent beings with freewill would turn out to be!

So the dictionary was written by Christians? Lol. Max you should undertake a career in comedy

cornelboy:
That's completely dishonest.
Dem go argue tire lol

For example, when Satan was tempting eve and Adam, God could see what was happening but he didn't know how it would ended because of the free will he gave man. He couldn't control it. He had most likely trusted Adam to make the right choice but he was disappointed.

Yet God has the ultimate power to predict the future accurately.
He indeed has a future he's planned for us

Lol. Now this is getting more comedic. Please comedy boy compare the bolded and italicized words and see if they made sense to you. I believe you're a university graduate, or worse a high school graduate

Maynman:
If there is something your god does not know he is not all knowing.
The english is straightforward na.

Bro, I'm just having a good laugh now. I didn't know there could be ignorant as poor as this. MadMax even said theists wrote all the dictionaries.

jaephoenix:
Lol. What is the difference between 'Total knowledge' and 'total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera'. Doesn't the word total knowledge cover everything?
At the bolded, this is simply risible. Lol. So 'total knowledge' doesnt include knowledge of our choices? Lol
Education is really a problem for some people.
Lets start from simple grammar. What do you understand by 'total?'
By the way, if you say Yahweh doesn't know our choices, what do you understand by the boldest words quoted from that your bible…

Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for[b] the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. [/b]If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

How does knowing the outcome of our choices the same with your bolded quoted verses 🤦🏾‍♂️
God doesn't know how many kids I'm gonna give birth to. I can decide to stay unmarried or castrate myself. Or adopt a kid. God doesn't decide that for me.

The problem today is caused by us not God.

No where did God claim he knows the outcome of our choices.

You can choose to interpret the Bible anyway you want it. It doesn't matter.

What matter is that there are people with the accurate interpretation of the scripture and they are zealously using their knowledge to make the world a better place.

jaephoenix:
You're not even cohabiting with me, never mind your neighbors. See how you dodged my questions and jumped into cohabitation. Did I tell you I'm homeless?

Cohabitation doesn't mean in the same building nah!

It simply means tolerance for whatever your neighbour believes as long as he or she won't harm you!

jaephoenix:
Lol. When you don't even understand what omniscient means, you wanna engage me. Kindergarten grammar is really a problem for you

So it's omni stuff that people who don't speak English were using to communicate shey?

jaephoenix:
Oh, so its theists that wrote the dictionary? Lol. MadMax you need to take your psychotic drugs. You have lost touch with reality

Ọmọ just as trinity never appeared anywhere in the Bible but misinformed churchgoers say it has to do with the Bible that's exactly the same thing with this your Omni stuff.
So don't bring it anywhere close to the Bible because it's not found written anywhere in it.

jaephoenix:
So the dictionary was written by Christians? Lol. Max you should undertake a career in comedy

Give it any meaning you want but don't bring it close to God's word because it doesn't appear anywhere in the scriptures!