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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 6:55pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
I understood already.
What I'm concerned about is that you're trying to attack me in anyway — just because I responded to this thread (especially with the name of my Church)
The people here on this thread are people that give no f.ck about religion.

They are all gathered here to criticise the JW organisation and condemn religion as a whole.
Please tread carefully.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
I understood already.
What I'm concerned about is that you're trying to attack me in anyway — just because I responded to this thread (especially with the name of my Church)
Please don't let what they're doing discourage you from arguing with Jehovah's Witnesses because i'm sure you will learn a lot later if not now.

They're all fighting really hard to silence the truth about what Jesus said:

You can IDENTIFY his group! Matthew 7:16-18

That's what they don't want to hear.

Jesus spoke about certain things his disciples supposed to achieve with the ministry he commissioned, that's what Jehovah's Witnesses here are trying to establish as the basis to help in IDENTIFYING Jesus' group.

So if your religion is not meeting up with that requirement then know that it's man-made and not Jesus' group.

That's what they're all trying to silence! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:02pm On Aug 26, 2023
Courz:
I have never seen people have so much disdain in public for their founder like the JWs. If Jesus is their founder, why are they not followers of Jesus? Why is Jesus insignificant in the Cult? I have said it times and times again that a Masonic Cult do not regard Jesus as anything. They only see him as someone who was a Prophet, a good man. Finish! They don't believe Jesus is their Mediator just as the Bible says. When you mention Jesus, they get irritated and begin to think Jesus is competing with God.

So, how can Jesus found a Cult that barely mentions his name, regard him as insignificant, completely disregard his words but upholds the words of Watchtower and deny his Blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of Sins every year in their Memorial? Is this really a Christian Religion? Have they forgotten that the word Christian means a follower of Christ? If they are truly founded by Jesus, why is Jesus not their central part of their doctrines? advocatejare, have you thought about this? sad sad
Sure!
The one I pity is MaxInDHouse who left the deception of Islam to enter another super deception of the satanic JW cult.

MaxInDHouse may the true salvation of Christ locate you. I won’t give up on you
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:04pm On Aug 26, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
grin Hey! Finally, max admits and confesses that their founder is a very horrible person, an evil and definitely an antichrist worthy of public condemnation.

Thread done close be dat! grin Max jw has settled it for us and has shown that indeed as accused, jw is founded on wickedness and evil and on Lies and deceits and dodgings just their founder did! grin
MaxInDHouse can’t publicly identify with Russell, what a horrible man Russel was so much that a character like MaxInDHouse can deny him
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:05pm On Aug 26, 2023
Emusan:
He did all these yet you still believe he's among the 144,000 saints ruling with Jesus in your heaven directing the same organisation who aren't doing all the above listed atrocities cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
MaxInDHouse please come and tell me that this is not true.

Thanks Emusan for this exposé
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:09pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
wink
The whole argument tire me sef... Ever since I was waiting, everyone is just jumping up and down
Sorry that you have to experience that, it’s MaxInDHouse that is not honorable enough to stand by his submission. He asked me to open a thread to answer my questions I did but he couldn’t answer me

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by descarado: 7:10pm On Aug 26, 2023
See Charles masonic grave.

So well encrypted.




I left when somebody we went to preach asked why there is no black african among the governing body members in the publication we gave him.
Meanwhile sub saharan African form not less than 40% of their members.

Till l left, no African has ever been part of the governing body. None.


I wonder what black people are doing there. Are they really that blind?

I couldn't count up to 3 black Americans within the span of many yrs.

Shame on black man.

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:14pm On Aug 26, 2023
descarado:
See Charles masonic grave.

So well encrypted.




I left when somebody we went to preach asked why there is no black african among the governing body members in the publication we gave him.
Meanwhile sub saharan African form not less than 40% of their members.

Till l left, no African has ever been part of the governing body. None.


I wonder what black people are doing there. Are they really that blind?

I couldn't count up to 3 black Americans within the span of many yrs.

Shame on black man.
This is a jaw-dropping revelation. Thanks for this:


MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, Janosky. What will you say to this?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:17pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse please come and tell me that this is not true. Thanks Emusan for this exposé
The post he quoted was for you but i'm not here to exchange words with him.

So read carefully.

Charles Taze Russell isn't the founder of the group that's why most of the things he knew in his days has been corrected by the founder himself: Jesus Christ.

Charles and many others who were making thorough research about how to IDENTIFY true Christianity were working with Jesus who was invisibly directing them to all the amendments they were making but it was a gradual process {Proverbs 4:18} that's why many who started with the group couldn't remain when the real founder (Jesus Christ) was working to remove those who aren't fitting! Matthew 13:24-30 compared to Isaiah 35:8

So Jesus acknowledged him even though Russell as an imperfect human has limited knowledge of the truth but himself and most of his colleagues were willing to accept whatever correction the founder of Christianity is making! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by descarado: 7:18pm On Aug 26, 2023
If you are a lady and marry outside jw, they will disown and ostracise you. Your parents will disown you. They will rather die than allow you marry non witness.

They have destroyed countless families with their rigid doctrines.
Meanwhile, the boy can bring in women from outside the organisation.

They don't join their kinsmen in doing some family stuff but want their kinsmen to be there for them when push come to shove.

If I get una time eeh.

Inside the organisation, see incest very common.
Infact, it's not about putting on ties and carrying potmanto. Evil people
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by descarado: 7:20pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:
This is a jaw-dropping revelation. Thanks for this:


MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, Janosky. What will you say to this?
grin
Tell them to show you an African who is part of governing member. Maybe, they appointed one when I left.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz:
descarado:
See Charles masonic grave.

So well encrypted.




I left when somebody we went to preach asked why there is no black african among the governing body members in the publication we gave him.
Meanwhile sub saharan African form not less than 40% of their members.

Till l left, no African has ever been part of the governing body. None.


I wonder what black people are doing there. Are they really that blind?

I couldn't count up to 3 black Americans within the span of many yrs.

Shame on black man.
I was about to ask you why you left the Cult. Wow! For someone you were Preaching to, to have pointed this very important fact about the inherent racism in the Cult, is awesome. I have also wondered why Jehovah has a big problem with Africans or Black people that throughout their history, he couldn't select a good number of Blacks to head the organisation. It was when I woke up that I realised this. It is very strange that all their leaders, with the exception of One recent black, have been White and even predominantly Jewish and Europeans. That alone tells you it is nothing but a Man made Cult.

As for the pic below, an Ex Illuminati Member has pointed out that this pyramid is a sign to show that Charles Taze Russell wasn't just a Freemason but he was a high ranking Illuminati member which is a very big reason why people need to stay away from JW. The pyramid even has the inscription of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society on it telling you who they really are. The Pyramid is an occultic symbol and people who showcase it are showing other members of the coven their allegiance to the Cult. No jokes! This has been revealed by former Satanists who have been delivered to become Christians. That Pyramid is a Satanic symbol to the core and no Christian should be showing it. Only Satanists do this.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 7:24pm On Aug 26, 2023
descarado:
grin
Tell them to show you an African who is part of governing member. Maybe, they appointed one when I left.
They added only one in the 90s. They have only one there who is very old. This is after how many centuries.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:25pm On Aug 26, 2023
cornelboy:
The people here on this thread are people that give no f.ck about religion.

They are all gathered here to criticise the JW organisation and condemn religion as a whole.
Please tread carefully.
Someone said JWs are the most obedient... Here you are using cussword.

You think sounding intimidating is how to make a point in an argument?

They don't give a damn about religion? Or it's you the other way round?
They came calling your 'accaimed' founder an abuser and similar names...
You say they don't give a damn about religion.
See how you sound?

So if they truly came to abuse Russell, it means they came to condemn religion?
So Russell is a religion?
Russell is your religion?
You worship Russell?

Y'all are not making much sense, both parties.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:
This is a jaw-dropping revelation. Thanks for this: MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, Janosky. What will you say to this?
That's not the grave of Russell nah!

Ọmọ Google is your friend jọọ!cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 7:27pm On Aug 26, 2023
descarado:
If you are a lady and marry outside jw, they will disown and ostracise you. Your parents will disown you. They will rather die than allow you marry non witness.

They have destroyed countless families with their rigid doctrines.
Meanwhile, the boy can bring in women from outside the organisation.

They don't join their kinsmen in doing some family stuff but want their kinsmen to be there for them when push come to shove.

If I get una time eeh.

Inside the organisation, see incest very common.
Infact, it's not about putting on ties and carrying potmanto. Evil people
Hahahaha. Very correct. I pity their ladies. Many of them will never get married if they continue this way.

As for Incest, Chai! You need to read stories coming from Developed countries. The disgusting things that happen in their Congregations. This Cult is Filthy. sad
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
Someone said JWs are the most obedient...
What you're supposed to ask is:

Obedience to who? smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:30pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Please don't let what they're doing discourage you from arguing with Jehovah's Witnesses because i'm sure you will learn a lot later if not now.

They're all fighting really hard to silence the truth about what Jesus said:

You can IDENTIFY his group! Matthew 7:16-18

That's what they don't want to hear.

Jesus spoke about certain things his disciples supposed to achieve with the ministry he commissioned, that's what Jehovah's Witnesses here are trying to establish as the basis to help in IDENTIFYING Jesus' group.

So if your religion is not meeting up with that requirement then know that it's man-made and not Jesus' group.

That's what they're all trying to silence! smiley
Yh, you've seen I'm not contributing here.
I argue against the message, not the messenger.
These people are arguing against the messenger.

You've diverted from what I said — that you were attacking me for no reason.
You've also diverted from using the name of my Church to make any claim, apparently one of you had asked several times.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 7:31pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That's not the grave of Russell nah!

Ọmọ Google is your friend jọọ!cheesy
Your fellow International Bible Students Association members actually admitted to a CIA Agent that he was truly buried under the Pyramid according to his instructions. But Watchtower needed to divert people's attention away from the pyramid. Which was why they propagated the Lie that he wasn't buried in that pyramid. According to International Bible Students, they erected another tombstone with his name on it in order to divert people's attention from the Pyramid because they know the pyramid is Satanic. So, you see. Charles Taze Russell was actually buried under that Pyramid. The CIA Agent wrote a book revealing this. grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:36pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse please come and tell me that this is not true.

Thanks Emusan for this exposé
You expect him to come cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

In case you don't know, all those things he claimed Russell taught which are later wrong were the things Russell believed to have come from Jesus Himself.

Russell started using the phrase "Faithful and discreet slaves" but guess what this phrase actually mean.

Check the attached screenshot below.

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37pm On Aug 26, 2023
descarado:
I left when somebody we went to preach asked why there is no black african among the governing body members in the publication we gave him.
Funny apostate! cheesy

Jesus had countless disciples but chose twelve apostles (all males) and none of them is a Samaritan (Northern ten tribes of Israel) rather they were all Jews (Southern three tribes of Israel)
Perhaps you never had that the same Jesus is the real founder of the group.
Ọmọ his own government is not your Democracy o, he chooses capable hands to lead his group.
So if you were alive in the first century and you happen to come from the Samaria you will never follow Jesus, shey?

Well he's still the same person with the known character! Hebrews 13:8 wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42pm On Aug 26, 2023
Ọmọ don't allow their noice to confuse you.

Jesus commissioned Christianity for a purpose so if your religion is not meeting up then know that it's man-made not Jesus' group.

preciousee17:
Yh, you've seen I'm not contributing here.
I argue against the message, not the messenger.
These people are arguing against the messenger.

You've diverted from what I said — that you were attacking me for no reason.
You've also diverted from using the name of my Church to make any claim, apparently one of you had asked several times.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:44pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:
Sorry that you have to experience that, it’s MaxInDHouse that is not honorable enough to stand by his submission. He asked me to open a thread to answer my questions I did but he couldn’t answer me
I've seen both parts, and I understood why you created the thread.

But if I wanted to say something, this is what I will say:

1. You can't attack both messenger and message together.
Russell was Freemason and all those stuff and even some of their leaders now (not necessarily).
But the entirety of their teaching is not false on it's own, in fact, they've overemphasized a tenet that has been overlooked by others.

2. I acknowledge it's not a crime to attack a person, I think it's a crime to play dumb in order to defend someone.


The big problem, as I said, is Max's pump — his ego — Pride.
It wouldn't seem that bad, but when you speak an obviously wrong doctrine, and you do so with Pride, it gets irritating. You speak so many things to console yourself in your delusion but it should be the other way round. Especially when you deviate from direct answers.

Then on the other hand, if we want to follow-up using this method, we should start attacking big men of 'God' more frequently, especially those with questionable characters (but you know why we don't do that? It's because none of them has come out with Pride to preach to us)
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:45pm On Aug 26, 2023
Just asking, did this thread make it to frontpage?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:46pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
What you're supposed to ask is:

Obedience to who? smiley
Your brother just used the f-word and you're asking me obedient to who... smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
The big problem, as I said, is Max's pump — his ego — Pride.
Jeremiah 9:23-24

Ọmọ we can boast that we have the knowledge of God! wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Nobody: 7:51pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ don't allow their noice to confuse you.
I'm not even following the thread, I was working, so I only look at my mentions.
What confused me is when you and your bro started trying to attack me.

Jesus commissioned Christianity for a purpose so if your religion is not meeting up then know that it's man-made not Jesus' group.
Yes. I accept.

Here is something I also accept:

The Apostles gave many teachings and was called Christians in the process.
Jesus gave basic teachings for Christianity, so if your religion is not teaching same then know that it's man-made not Jesus' group.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:55pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
Your brother just used the f-word and you're asking me obedient to who... smiley
Well if you will like to know we are obedient to those taking the lead among us! Hebrews 13:7, 17

That's what makes many people observed in us whereas all these people can't vouch for those taking the lead in their midst.

I really admired how you mentioned your church because that shows you're not ashamed of the officiating minister but you see these people they're disobedient to those leading their religions that's why they can't mention their religion. smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
I'm not even following the thread, I was working, so I only look at my mentions.
What confused me is when you and your bro started trying to attack me.

Yes. I accept.

Here is something I also accept:

The Apostles gave many teachings and was called Christians in the process.
Jesus gave basic teachings for Christianity, so if your religion is not teaching same then know that it's man-made not Jesus' group.
NO. You're mistaking!

All the religions in these world will quote God's word to back their doctrines that's why Jesus never say
"by their teachings"
Rather what he said is:
"by their FRUITS" Matthew 7:16-18

Note that the Judaists in Jesus' days said he's teaching heresy just as Jesus also said about them. That will make it really difficult for any neutral observer to know who is on God's side.

So instead of arguing on teachings the best way to solve the puzzle is by considering what they're able to achieve regarding God's will.

That's why Jesus said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will" Matthew 7:21

So what is God's will?
Which of all these religious groups is doing it today? smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:58pm On Aug 26, 2023
preciousee17:
I've seen both parts, and I understood why you created the thread.

But if I wanted to say something, this is what I will say:

1. You can't attack both messenger and message together.
Russell was Freemason and all those stuff and even some of their leaders now (not necessarily).
But the entirety of their teaching is not false on it's own, in fact, they've overemphasized a tenet that has been overlooked by others.

2. I acknowledge it's not a crime to attack a person, I think it's a crime to play dumb in order to defend someone.


The big problem, as I said, is Max's pump — his ego — Pride.
It wouldn't seem that bad, but when you speak an obviously wrong doctrine, and you do so with Pride, it gets irritating. You speak so many things to console yourself in your delusion but it should be the other way round. Especially when you deviate from direct answers.

Then on the other hand, if we want to follow-up using this method, we should start attacking big men of 'God' more frequently, especially those with questionable characters (but you know why we don't do that? It's because none of them has come out with Pride to preach to us)
Thank you for summarizing the whole thing and still capturing the vital points.

We all know that no human or organization is perfect but when a group of people always come here to boast that they are the best and the only true religious group in the world and rubbish others, then it won’t be out of place to really examine who they are starting from their leader/founder.

The Max guy can continue to swim in his delusions henceforth, I’ll just be ignoring him. He is not worth being given one’s attention at all
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Courz: 7:58pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The post he quoted was for you but i'm not here to exchange words with him.

So read carefully.

Charles Taze Russell isn't the founder of the group that's why most of the things he knew in his days has been corrected by the founder himself: Jesus Christ.
Liar! Stop lying. Which things have been changed? Charles Taze Russell invented the 1914 doctrine. Why are you still teaching it? Charles Taze Russell invented the Faithful and discreet Slave doctrine of which he was taught to be the First Faithful and Discreet Slave. Why do you still teach it? Why are your History books and videos still talking about Charles Taze Russell if he is not your founder? You have refused to answer these questions because we have exposed you! Why do your Governing body still believe that Charles Taze Russell is still running your Organisation to this day?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 8:00pm On Aug 26, 2023
descarado:
grin
Tell them to show you an African who is part of governing member. Maybe, they appointed one when I left.
MaxInDHouse over to you
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