gidgiddy:
This is how Nigeria should have been structured, seperate countries but contributing to a central government

Nigeria was well structured at independence.

Blame Ibos for their greed and desperation in 1966

Yujin:
Meanwhile, here's Gowon's decree 14 and 15.
He is the one who abolished the regional system, appropriated exclusive power to himself and created more states in the north thereby giving them more seats in the House of Assembly. Gowon is the culprit here.
Cc. MT

You cannot excuse your kinsman - Aguiyi Ironsi - from the tragedy that he subjected the whole nation to.

Read this from the first line of the Unification Decree:

"Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.."

Before 24th May, 1966, Nigeria was a Federation with each region self-governing and controlling their own wealth and resources. Your man came and in one fell swoop, he cancelled it and replaced it with Republic. He even titled it - the UNIFICATION decree, thus cancelling out the regional governments.

A foundation for national tragedy was laid and Gowon built on it.

If your brother had not cancelled the Federation, there was high possibility Gowon would not have thought along that line.

Aguiyi Ironsi would forever be seen as laying the foundation for the mess we are in. Go and read from different political analysts, you would see how your brother was viewed, and the intentions as well as ambition that drove him to reach such crazy conclusion.

georgeakins:


Nigeria was well structured at independence.

Blame Ibos for their greed and desperation in 1966

And those who took over from Igbos, did they do any better with the structure or make it far worse?

Bovis:

Aguyi Ironsi in typical Igbo fashion introduced the unification decree due to his greed to have total control over other regions resources

And those who took over from Ironsi, did they do any better with the structure or make it far worse?

MT:


That was how it was till Aguiyi Ironsi changed everything - Western Region, Northern Region, Eastern Region.

He promulgated infamous Decree No. 34 of 1966 - the unification decree.

And those who took over from Ironsi, did they do any better with the structure or make it far worse?

JooEeL:


Why must we be together in d first place?

Theres no reason to be together at all, the union of Nigeria proved to be a complete failure

nobody gives a fvck
they are all British to me

Summary London is a capital of three countries: England, Great Britain and United Kingdom, That's how Enugu will be capital of many countries: Biafra, Southern Nigeria etc.

gidgiddy:



And those who took over from Ironsi, did they do any better with the structure or make it far worse?

Average Nigerians enjoy someone doing the dirty works for them while they build on it.

Most of them would never dare destroying the federation but since Aguiyi Ironsi had done it, he opened the gate of hell. And due to selfishness, the rest were building on that faulty foundation.

Akaegwu:
Republic of Ireland use Euro 💶. Northern Ireland = pound 💷

There is Irish, Scottish and the English pounds. All of them have the same values while in the UK. Aboki’s won’t give you same value for it though. They will exchange the Irish and Scottish pounds less of English pounds.

MT:


You cannot excuse your kinsman - Aguiyi Ironsi - from the tragedy that he subjected the whole nation to.

Read this from the first line of the Unification Decree:

"Subject to the provisions of this Decree, Nigeria shall on 24th May 1966 (in this decree referred to as ‘the appointed day’) cease to be a Federation and shall accordingly as from that day be a Republic, by the name of the Republic of Nigeria, consisting of the whole of the territory which immediately before that day was comprised in the Federation.."

Before 24th May, 1966, Nigeria was a Federation with each region self-governing and controlling their own wealth and resources. Your man came and in one fell swoop, he cancelled it and replaced it with Republic. He even titled it - the UNIFICATION decree, thus cancelling out the regional governments.

A foundation for national tragedy was laid and Gowon built on it.

If your brother had not cancelled the Federation, there was high possibility Gowon would not have thought along that line.

Aguiyi Ironsi would forever be seen as laying the foundation for the mess we are in. Go and read from different political analysts, you would see how your brother was viewed, and the intentions as well as ambition that drove him to reach such crazy conclusion.

Ok. So we can now agree that he did not abolish the regional system right? The regions existed until his death and nothing was traced to him to suggest he wanted to abolish them.
Gowon we all know was been controlled by powers that be. The northern people's coup of 1966 was not hatched by Gowon and as such, much of the decisions he implemented cannot be said to be exclusively his.

The unification he pursued which you all are condemning him for today was caused by the prevailing direction of the time. No region was being suppressed at the time and everyone was on equal footing. Only the West was in an unfavourable situation because Awolowo was in jail while Akintola was no more. There was nothing Aguiyi did to suggest he wanted to exploit either the West or the North. It was pure Igbophobia that worked against him.
The north was chanting 'Araba' under him while the West being in an uncertain situation due to the leadership lacuna could have opted for pulling out too. I believe Ironsi felt securing the country first was paramount before power can be handed back to civilians. He only lasted 6 months before he was killed.
How the story now changed to him abolishing regionalism remains very surprising.
The north who was shouting 'Araba' suddenly changed stance and abolished the regions to create a system that will favour them till date with the rest of you just following without accusing them of what you had earlier accused Ironsi. Isn't that double standard?
Almost 60 years on and their creation has persisted. Today, a Yoruba man is the president and he has the power to undo what the Ironsi was accused of but we all know he won't do it. It must be kept while the Igbo man is pointed as the architect of it all while Nigeria deteriorates together with the future of millions of her young ones. Such is the wisdom of black people.

seunny4lif:

ROI is a an EU country and they use Euros while NI is part of UK and they have their own NI pounds which is different from England pounds.
While you can use English pounds anywhere, the opposite is that for Northern Ireland pounds.

All you can do to to either of them is to walk into any bank you’ve got an account and it will be changed to the English pounds.

Thanks, this is notable. Same kind of confusion exists about the Netherlands or Holland.

Good Luck to the UK.

Confused land grabbers
Much of what’s left of the empire

MT:


Average Nigerians enjoy someone doing the dirty works for them while they build on it.

Most of them would never dare destroying the federation but since Aguiyi Ironsi had done it, he opened the gate of hell. And due to selfishness, the rest were building on that faulty foundation.

If Aguiyi Ironsi opened the gates of hell in the 6 months he was in office, and you Nigerians never managed to close the gates in more than 50 years since he was killed, and even managed to make it worse, then Nigeria was destined to be hell anyway, which it is

MT:


I misjudged you to be reasonable.

Are you a baby? You want to be spoon fed? You asked for all the resources, I gave them to you. So I should be pointing you to exact place. I am struggling to believe you are mentally retarded or have comprehension problems.

You're doing too much Mr MT. Why waste your precious time trying to bring that emotional ignoramus out of his own mystery??

I mean who doesn't know about the infamous-power-drunk Aguiyi Irons' decree no. 34 of 1966??

A man so arrogant, hoping to be saved by the live crocodile on his chest while being tortured and strangled to death...

Racoon:
So educative! Thanks a lot OP. Mods please move to front page. Nigeria ought to be restructured this way too but the feudal power lords will rather die

On September 6
All eyes 👀 on the judiciary ⚓

OmoNla99:

All you can do to to either of them is to walk into any bank you’ve got an account and it will be changed to the English pounds.

Well, depending on the country, you visited or staying because no bank will take the Northern Ireland pounds from you and except Bank of Ireland and one other bank like that.

seunny4lif:

Well, depending on the country, you visited or staying because no bank will take the Northern Ireland pounds from you and except Bank of Ireland and one other bank like that.

LloydsTSB took it from me in Manchester. The Irish pounds itself.

thank you for this great information. before now, i thought great britain was a country on its own

Yujin:

Ok. So we can now agree that he did not abolish the regional system right? The regions existed until his death and nothing was traced to him to suggest he wanted to abolish them.
Gowon we all know was been controlled by powers that be. The northern people's coup of 1966 was not hatched by Gowon and as such, much of the decisions he implemented cannot be said to be exclusively his.

The unification he pursued which you all are condemning him for today was caused by the prevailing direction of the time. No region was being suppressed at the time and everyone was on equal footing. Only the West was in an unfavourable situation because Awolowo was in jail while Akintola was no more. There was nothing Aguiyi did to suggest he wanted to exploit either the West or the North. It was pure Igbophobia that worked against him.
The north was chanting 'Araba' under him while the West being in an uncertain situation due to the leadership lacuna could have opted for pulling out too. I believe Ironsi felt securing the country first was paramount before power can be handed back to civilians. He only lasted 6 months before he was killed.
How the story now changed to him abolishing regionalism remains very surprising.
The north who was shouting 'Araba' suddenly changed stance and abolished the regions to create a system that will favour them till date with the rest of you just following without accusing them of what you had earlier accusing Ironsi. Isn't that doubke standard?
Almost 60 years on and their creation has persisted. Today, a Yoruba man is the president and he has the power to undo what the Ironsi was accused of but we all know he won't do it. It must be kept while the Igbo man is pointed as the architect of it all while Nigeria deteriorates together with the future of millions of her young ones. Suchi is the wisdom of black people.

Dude if you're Igbo, you need to please stop this hypocrisy. I'm an Igbo man too and when I found out the LIES and HYPOCRISY that our people have been bandying around about our history in Nigeria, I almost died from shock. Even my own parents and older relatives who fought the Biafra War seemed to have adopted a position of selective amnesia about the causes of the pre-war Crisis. We must always strive to tell the truth and if it's too dangerous to tell, just keep quiet until it's safe. Lies are destructive because they set wrong incentives for action.

Chukwuma Nzeogwu AND/OR Aguiyi Ironsi STARTED Nigeria on the path to the present Unitary Government. Simply by introducing military into government via illegal and biased violence, they GUARANTEED that Nigeria would become a Unitary State.

Long before that, the Great Zik, Nnamdi Azikiwe, ensured the continued existence of Nigeria as a United Entity. In the Lancaster Conference Negotiations, the UK did for Nigeria what it did for many other Crown Colonies....it gave THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE a chance to choose the structure of their country after independence. By that act alone, the British gave Nigerians the chance to rectify a lot of whatever wrong was done by colonialism.

At the Lancaster Conference

1) Obafemi Awolowo took a position that a SECESSION CLAUSE must be included in the Constitution.
2) The Sarduana took the position that Nigeria should be divided into separate countries.
3) Nnamdi Azikiwe specifically opposed Awolowo's proposal...and insisted that Nigeria must remain united "in perpetuity"

The rules of all the Lancaster Conferences for British Colonies was that EVERY major change in the status quo had to be unanimous. They Igbo insisted that things remain as they were. So it was Zik and his Igbo voters who LEGALLY locked up all the tribes and regions in Nigeria FOREVER. If Awolowo had his way, the Biafra War would never have been necessary, the Eastern Region would have had the LEGAL RIGHT to simply walk away. There's a lot more I could say about this issue...for instance, I could EXPLAIN WHY the Igbo were so opposed to dividing Nigeria or any talk of secession rights. The Cameroons Referendum of 1964 is also very important, I urge everyone to go read about it. That episode alone makes EVERYTHING clear about who and what are the real problems in Nigeria.

I hope anyone who cares about Nigerian history can go research these issues. I have good websites and history that I can link to, but I won't do it, if you care enough go find it yourself, but the truth is most Nigerians don't care about anything except MONEY, that's why their country is the Poverty Capital of the World.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

gidgiddy:


If Aguiyi Ironsi opened the gates of hell in the 6 months he was in office, and you Nigerians never managed to close the gates in more than 50 years since he was killed, and even managed to make it worse, then Nigeria was destined to be hell anyway, which it is

That's the problem.

The only time an individual from that part of the region was given the topmost power in the Nation, he ruined it and you guys are still bearing the consequence till date.

Sadly, you are the one always screaming to revert back to the way it used to be, blaming others except yourself, who was the architect.
Your kinsman - Aguiyi Ironsi - started the madness which pushed us to this level.

Lightning can never be allowed to strike twice. The earlier you realise it, the better for you.

jedisco:
How many times would this be posted on nairaland front page?

While no knowledge is waste, we are not Brits and the average Brit is not concerned about where we originated from. To most, Africa is a single country.

There are barely posts about how most of our states, empires e.t.c came about.

in as much as I agree with you, i got a slightly different opinion about u saying to "most" Africa is a single country, u see alot of African countries have made name some of which are known for countless reasons example, South Africa Nigeria, Ghana, Egypt, utopia.

concreteaffairs:
And Nigeria will be doing as if they cannot allow every region stay on its own and contribute to Nigeria

Nigeria is honestly too big. We should revert back to the regional system only this time we use the 6 geo-political zones. Let each be headed by some governor/minster of some sort then you have a President at the center.
Have 2 senators from each state and and 4 reps member, e go reduce cost of governance and every region will control it's resources to a considerable level, the should equally change the revenue sharing ratio, let the central government take 20% from each geo-political zone the the zones take 50 and the date and LG share the remaining 30.

Akaegwu:
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UK, GREAT BRITAIN, BRITAIN, ENGLAND

A lot of people in Nigeria and indeed all over the world, including well travelled, elite class people often confuse England, United Kingdom, Britain and Great Britain. Well, here's the way to differentiate them:

*England* is a country just as Nigeria, and its capital is *London* just like Abuja is the capital of Nigeria.

*Great Britain* is a collection of 3 countries which came together as one country and has its capital as *London.* Those 3 countries are:

1. *England,*
2. *Scotland* and
3. *Wales.*

When you include *Northern Ireland* to these 3 countries, they become *United Kingdom* (union of four nations) Viz:
1. England,
2. Scotland,
3. Wales, and
4. Northern Ireland.

That is why it is referred to as the *United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.*
Collectively, the four are taken as one country. And when this is the case, *London* is its capital.

Note however that these four individual nations all have their own respective capitals.

Accordingly, the capital of
Scotland is *Edinburgh*,
Wales is *Cardiff*;
Northern Ireland is *Belfast*;
England is *London*.

Ps: Northern Ireland is not to be mistaken for the *Republic of Ireland*. The latter is a separate country. Its capital is *Dublin*.

Credits: Nojeem Jimoh

Thanks.

Nice one

Justiceleague1:

What's the currency of the Republic of Ireland?

Euros

gidgiddy:
This is how Nigeria should have been structured, seperate countries but contributing to a central government

You nailed it and how can we actualise this ?

yankison:


You nailed it and how can we actualise this ?

The ONLY way that's going to happen is by WAR. Everyone know why that is the case. Unfortunately.

Since nobody wants another war, Nigeria will continue as is and along the same path of retrogression, anomie and poverty.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

MT:


Lightning can never be allowed to strike twice. The earlier you realise it, the better for you.

What does this mean?

Care to clarify so I don't impute any meaning that you didn't intend?

Thanks.

Abifarin16:


Nigeria is honestly too big. We should revert back to the regional system only this time we use the 6 geo-political zones. Let each be headed by some governor/minster of some sort then you have a President at the center.
Have 2 senators from each state and and 4 reps member, e go reduce cost of governance and every region will control it's resources to a considerable level, the should equally change the revenue sharing ratio, let the central government take 20% from each geo-political zone the the zones take 50 and the date and LG share the remaining 30.

Nigeria is not bigger than India, USA and Brazil in either land area and/or population. I think what you really mean is the Nigerian populace is too DIVERSE to have a powerful central authority such as the Federal Government of Nigeria.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Euros.They are in EU

Justiceleague1:

What's the currency of the Republic of Ireland?

Yujin:

Why are you so filled with lies? Can you provide proof that Aguiyi Ironsi spoilt it? Don't quote any decree for us. Post it here so everyone can read it for themselves.

Why are you lying,sir?
It is all over the net.



Of all the decrees enacted in Nigeria, none is more controversial than Decree No 34 of 1966. It was promulgated on May 24, 1966 by then Head of State, Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi (1924-1966) . It was called Unification Decree while some critics at that time labelled it the De-unification Decree.

It was the decree that started the death of regionalism – an issue which is still generating controversy till now. Although the next head of State General Yakubu Gowon repealed the Decree 34 on August 31, 1966 through Decree 9, a large portion of the Decree is still effective till today.

General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided for military governors for each state. With Decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried.