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triplechoice:
The concept of spirit husband and wife, which has infiltrated Christianity in Africa and is being used by some Pentecostal pastors in Nigeria and other parts of Africa to scam their gullible followers , is from traditional African religion.


No where in the Bible is the idea mentioned or even hinted at, yet it's one of the major subject of discussion amongs Pentecostal Christians who are not even aware of where the notion of a spirit spouse has emanated from

By believing in such a thing, they have unknowingly accepted a belief that's antithetical to their religion . Spirit spouse is tied to reincarnation.

Within the circle of those who originally hold on to the idea, ATR, practitioners , it's believed that there's a corresponding inner world or spiritual world where people go to once they depart from this physical one through death .

According to them ,the other world contains everything that you find here .

There are houses ,markets ,farms ,animals ,humans ,male and female you can marry and have children with .

And after spending some time there , one may choose to return, reincarnate , back to this physical world.

If the returning person is already married over there , he or she must remain faithful by not getting married here .

Any attempt to get married ,will result in problems for both the person and the intending partner .The only way out is to appease the spirit spouse without which nothing happens .

This is the summary of the idea of a spirit spouse amongs ATR practitioners . If you want to know more, meet with them , and not pastors who have reworked the concept like an old tune and now singing it heartily in churches in order to fleece their members of their hard earned money.

I pity the ladies more . They are the ones falling easy victims in churches and elswhere because of the desperation to get married..

Spirit spouse is superstitious belief .Things don't change after any deliverance or rituals .

Well, I'm speaking from the many things I have seen both in the village and in the cities

I know of some persons who have gone through the necessary rituals or deliverance meant to free them from the so call spirit spouse but nothing has changed .

The only solution is to appease...

The spirit spouse can allow you to enjoy your human incarnation...

I used a ram and some other stuff women want...and I don't have sex with my wife on Sundays...That's how far I could go...

Sophia don relax.....she still helps me and guides me from other side...she is my good ally. I don't see her as an enemy...

triplechoice:
Balderdash!

You never make sense.

Ahan! You are twisted like this? I supported your stand and you say balderdash? O I have forgotten that you are a twisted person and no reasonable person should lay on your words for you are very unstable. Left today, right tomorrow, up next tomorrow. My mistake . I hope to always remember your character.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ahan! You are twisted like this? I supported your stand and you say balderdash? O I have forgotten that you are a twisted person and no reasonable person should lay on your words for you are very unstable. Left today, right tomorrow, up next tomorrow. My mistake . I hope to always remember your character.

Just rest. You are talking to yourself ,not me.

sonmvayina:
The only solution is to appease...

The spirit spouse can allow you to enjoy your human incarnation...

Ok. If that helps you .

triplechoice:
Ok. If that helps you .

That's the only logical way..

triplechoice:
Just rest. You are talking to yourself ,not me.

You are so full of lying and denying that you think that everyone is you. I bet you are the type who denies himself and his name.

onumadu:
Well, I think that the wrong way of looking at these things is to assume/expect every race or tribe of people to share the same cultural perspectives on them. CULTURE is a huge factor in how these things are dealt with.

For example, most whites who even believe in spiritual things simply categorize all such things as "demons" or "evil spirits".

What matters to them is that they have effective ways of getting rid of them when they are problematic.

I said I've read a lot of books written by whites on such things.

One of such books is Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson

In the book, the author simply called all of these forces "evil spirits". What intrigued me most about his claims in the book (the man had conducted HUNDREDS if not thousands 0f exorcism, some of them even on religious leaders and the most unbelieving) is that significant numbers of people he helped never believed in them until voices they couldn't control started speaking through them!

So, you are mistaken to say that only Africans or as you put it "Africans living in Africa" believe such things.
My "spirit wife" may be a white man's "evil spirit". Does it matter the nomenclature as long as the problem is solved?

You need to stop thinking of Africans are uncivilized or superstitious regarding such things.

Those things are real and have destroyed the greatest and most intelligent people.

You are conflating things . The topic is on spirit spouse and not whether demons exist or not ,or are responsible for it.

Bob Larson has not discussed demons as spirit spouse . You are the one doing so here .

ATR practitioners who hold on to the belief don't call them demons .They accept them as people on the other side, the spirit world , who can assert influence on people here .


I already said it's superstitious belief tied to reincarnation and its against your religion Christianity ,meaning you shouldnt be dwelling on it .

Why hanging on to something that you should be doing away with .

If you still believe in spirit spouse as a Christian, then it only means one thing ,you have very strong ties or connection with those indigenous religion that promote such beliefs.

It's either you go back to join them or completely breakaway .

Meat wey u nor wan chop nor use your teeth divide ham for oda pipo.

Just focus on your Christianity .

triplechoice:
You are conflating things . The topic is on spirit spouse and not whether demons exist or not ,or are responsible for it.

Bob Larson has not discussed demons as spirit spouse . You are the one doing so here .

ATR practitioners who hold on to the belief don't call them demons .They accept them as people on the other side, the spirit world , who can assert influence on people here .


I already said it's superstitious belief tied to reincarnation and its against your religion Christianity ,meaning you shouldnt be dwelling on it .

Why hanging on to something that you should be doing away with .

If you still believe in spirit spouse as a Christian, then it only means one thing ,you have very strong ties or connection with those indigenous religion that promote such beliefs.

It's either you go back to join them or completely breakaway .

Meat wey u nor wan chop nor use your teeth divide ham for oda pipo.

Just focus on your Christianity .

Apparently you didn't understand my point that white people call all those things "demons".

Secondly, they have secret societies where they tell themselves the truth.

That is exactly why they have those societies. They don't want to be arguing with everyone about those things.

In Africa, we deal with them as you said ATR way. Or latter day Christians deal with them through "deliverance".

I am a Christian. A very proud one. But I'm not ignorant. Christianity comes in different shades and colors.

You don't get to tell me how to be a Christian. Nobody gave you that authority. lol

I watched a movie many years ago (when white people don't want to defend or argue about something, they simple act it in movies) where a lady was constantly raped by a "demon". Some paranormal experts were brought in, and they used some scientific devices and tried to trap the "demon", but they failed. ETC...

Point is, these things DO exist, whether you believe it is immaterial.

I'm happy that someone above actually said something about how he deals with them.

I would rather attend to such people than those who peremptorily dismiss the whole thing as unreal.

Thank you.

onumadu:
Apparently you didn't understand my point that white people call all those things "demons".

Secondly, they have secret societies where they tell themselves the truth.

That is exactly why they have those societies. They don't want to be arguing with everyone about those things.

In Africa, we deal with them as you said ATR way. Or latter day Christians deal with them through "deliverance".

I am a Christian. A very proud one. But I'm not ignorant. Christianity comes in different shades and colors.

You don't get to tell me how to be a Christian. Nobody gave you that authority. lol

I watched a movie many years ago (when white people don't want to defend or argue about something, they simple act it in movies) where a lady was constantly raped by a "demon". Some paranormal experts were brought in, and they used some scientific devices and tried to trap the "demon", but they failed. ETC...

Point is, these things DO exist, whether you believe it is immaterial.

I'm happy that someone above actually said something about how he deals with them.

I would rather attend to such people than those who peremptorily dismiss the whole thing as unreal.

Thank you.

You are free to discuss with whomever you want to discuss with . I can not stop you .

But you have not shown how spirit spouse is real . You only keep repeating it's real . That's all .

One final thing ,it's not true the whites discuss spirit spouse in secret . If that's true ,how did you get to know what's secretly discussed in those secret groups ?

I have only contributed what I know to be true about the topic. If it doesn't agree with you ,please reject it.

Thank you

triplechoice:
You are free to discuss with whomever you want to discuss with . I can not stop you .

But you have not shown how spirit spouse is real . You only keep repeating it's real . That's all .

One final thing ,it's not true the whites discuss spirit spouse in secret . If that's true ,how did you get to know what's secretly discussed in those secret groups ?

I have only contributed what I know to be true about the topic. If it doesn't agree with you ,please reject it.

Thank you

Unfortunately most of what happens in the spiritual world cannot be explained: Prove that they are real.
They just can't be done consistently.

I'd give an instance of spiritual things that are not easy to prove. I am a "prophet" in my own rights, and how I prophesy is through DREAMS.
My dreams are unbelievably powerful and their messages never fail.

Dreams are superior way of divination because God talks to you DIRECTLY (not through human mediums that can be corrupted sometimes).
I've had such dreams about Nigeria, and specifically about WHO OWNS it. I've never had the courage to share the information. lol
Had the dream many years ago, and everything about it has happened and continues to happen till date. Scientific? Nope! Real? YEP!
Anyway I digress again... lol

About secret societies, you don't need to have entered one to have some decent information about what goes on in there.
You just need to READ SOME GOOD BOOKS on them.
I've read a few which I cannot mention here. If you read those books, you'd come to understand that religion is really irrelevant in spiritual matters. What is, IS. EOD.

Lastly, about me "rejecting" YOUR OPINION that I don't agree with, I don't have the power or authority to "reject" them. They are YOURS.

onumadu:
Well, I think that the wrong way of looking at these things is to assume/expect every race or tribe of people to share the same cultural perspectives on them. CULTURE is a huge factor in how these things are dealt with.

For example, most whites who even believe in spiritual things simply categorize all such things as "demons" or "evil spirits".

What matters to them is that they have effective ways of getting rid of them when they are problematic.

I said I've read a lot of books written by whites on such things.

One of such books is Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson

In the book, the author simply called all of these forces "evil spirits". What intrigued me most about his claims in the book (the man had conducted HUNDREDS if not thousands 0f exorcism, some of them even on religious leaders and the most unbelieving) is that significant numbers of people he helped never believed in them until voices they couldn't control started speaking through them!

So, you are mistaken to say that only Africans or as you put it "Africans living in Africa" believe such things.
My "spirit wife" may be a white man's "evil spirit". Does it matter the nomenclature as long as the problem is solved?

You need to stop thinking of Africans are uncivilized or superstitious regarding such things.

Those things are real and have destroyed the greatest and most intelligent people.

Most of the responses so far are useless. Many ignorant people forming professors.

Spirit spouses are real. They come to people in dreams and have sex with them. Due to jealousy, they can make life hard for the earthly spouse. They can even kill him or her. They're the ones responsible for late marriages, unexplainable miscarriages, dysfunctional homes, and in some cases, sudden deaths, poverty, ill lucks and extreme hardships.

When you see yourself getting married, taking care of kids, having sex or relating with a spouse in dreams, you're actually a victim. They can make life really miserable for their victims. They want attention and are extremely jealous. This is the basis of the problems they create in people's lives.

In most cases, they're contracted through covenants or contracts with water spirits. Individuals who patronise marine spirits for help often get into this trouble and pass it down from generation to generatuon. So, a baby could be a victim through generational inheritance.

To get loosed from these spirits, you need to break the covenant you.have with marine spirits (most times those covenants are made by ancestors), break the evil soul ties you have with them, divorce them in the name of Jesus and burn any dowries or tokens representing the marriage in the spirit realm. There's also the need for you to destroy all the demonic children you have with your spirit spouse. The matter is a very serious matter. Only Jesus can deliver the victims.

The white people call them Incubus and Succubus. The Incubus is a spirit husband while the succubus is a spirit wife. It's not an African thing as one ignoramus was saying up there.

Apart from marine connection, a pact with witches or occultism can also bring these spirits into one's life and lineage.

Please if you have the book Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson, kindly share with me. Thank you in advance.

CC:
Dtruthspeaker
Triplechoice

onumadu:
Unfortunately most of what happens in the spiritual world cannot be explained: Prove that they are real.
They just can't be done consistently.

I'd give an instance of spiritual things that are not easy to prove. I am a "prophet" in my own rights, and how I prophesy is through DREAMS.
My dreams are unbelievably powerful and their messages never fail.

Dreams are superior way of divination because God talks to you DIRECTLY (not through human mediums that can be corrupted sometimes).
I've had such dreams about Nigeria, and specifically about WHO OWNS it. I've never had the courage to share the information. lol
Had the dream many years ago, and everything about it has happened and continues to happen till date. Scientific? Nope! Real? YEP!
Anyway I digress again... lol

About secret societies, you don't need to have entered one to have some decent information about what goes on in there.
You just need to READ SOME GOOD BOOKS on them.
I've read a few which I cannot mention here. If you read those books, you'd come to understand that religion is really irrelevant in spiritual matters. What is, IS. EOD.

Lastly, about me "rejecting" YOUR OPINION that I don't agree with, I don't have the power or authority to "reject" them. They are YOURS.

If it cannot be explained ,how come you want contributions from people on something that cannot be explained or closer to be proven


They reason we are here now is because you misrepresented me when you accuse me of dismissing demons .

I have not talked about demons talkless of dismissing them.

We aren't discussing demons . Are we ?

African religion practitioners whose beliefs I have summarised for you at the begining ,don't accept that spirit spouses are demons . In fact, Some even regard them as deities that can provide spiritual protection, and hence the reason for the appeasement to seek their cooperation. Christians on the other hand , try to cast them out because they belief such a thing ,if it exist ,must be demons . This is the difference.

Incubus and sucubus is what the whites know of, discuss, and portray in movies.

It's not the same with the concept of spirit spouses in traditional African religion.

I just want to hear from you what christianity teaches about a spirit spouse.

So ,for a start what are the criteria for judging if one has a spirit husband or wife ?

FxMasterz:
Most of the responses so far are useless. Many ignorant people forming professors.

Spirit spouses are real. They come to people in dreams and have sex with them. Due to jealousy, they can make life hard for the earthly spouse. They can even kill him or her. They're the ones responsible for late marriages, unexplainable miscarriages, dysfunctional homes, and in some cases, sudden deaths, poverty, ill lucks and extreme hardships.

When you see yourself getting married, taking care of kids, having sex or relating with a spouse in dreams, you're actually a victim. They can make life really miserable for their victims. They want attention and are extremely jealous. This is the basis of the problems they create in people's lives.

In most cases, they're contracted through covenants or contracts with water spirits. Individuals who patronise marine spirits for help often get into this trouble and pass it down from generation to generatuon. So, a baby could be a victim through generational inheritance.

To get loosed from these spirits, you need to break the covenant you.have with marine spirits (most times those covenants are made by ancestors), break the evil soul ties you have with them, divorce them in the name of Jesus and burn any dowries or tokens representing the marriage in the spirit realm. There's also the need for you to destroy all the demonic children you have with your spirit spouse. The matter is a very serious matter. Only Jesus can deliver the victims.

The white people call them Incubus and Succubus. The Incubus is a spirit husband while the succubus is a spirit wife. It's not an African thing as one ignoramus was saying up there.

Apart from marine connection, a pact with witches or occultism can also bring these spirits into one's life and lineage.

Please if you have the book Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson, kindly share with me. Thank you in advance.

CC:
Dtruthspeaker
Triplechoice

You are the ignoramous because you just vomited all the nonsense you have been forced to swallow in your churches. .

Incubus and sucubus is not the same as spirit spouse in traditional African religion from where Pentecostal Christians in Africa have stolen it from .

Having sex in dreams is not evidence of spirit spouses . There are rational explanations why people can have sex in dreams .

Morever , dreams are mostly symbolic representation of something going on in the dreamers life . It should not be interpreted literally. Primitive people are the ones known to give literal interpretations to all their dreams

triplechoice:
You are the ignoramous becuase you just vomited all the nonsense you have been forced to swallow in your churches. .

Incubus and sucubus is not the same as spirit spouse in traditional African religion from where Pentecostal Christians in Africa have stolen it from .

Having sex in dreams is not evidence of spirit spouses . There are rational explanations why people can have sex in dreams .

Morever , dreams are mostly symbolic representation of something going on in the dreamers life . It should not be interpreted literally. Primitive people are the ones known to give literal interpretations to all their dreams

I'm a pastor. I know what I'm saying.

Recently, not more than 3 weeks ago, I delivered a woman from yeye osun's grip.

As a pastor, I have varied spiritual experiences, and can talk on a wide range of topics involving the demonic.

Have you checked online for incubus and succubus? Or you're just bent on expressing your personal egp through unfounded theories? If you want to talk on these things, come to the field and face practical life realities. Theories are only sweet in the mouth of the speaker. In real life, what you wrote up there is balderdash. Get out of your confort zone and see it live and direct in practical terms. It's easy to just talk for the sake of talking. Anybody can do that.

FxMasterz:
Most of the responses so far are useless. Many ignorant people forming professors.

Spirit spouses are real. They come to people in dreams and have sex with them. Due to jealousy, they can make life hard for the earthly spouse. They can even kill him or her. They're the ones responsible for late marriages, unexplainable miscarriages, dysfunctional homes, and in some cases, sudden deaths, poverty, ill lucks and extreme hardships.

When you see yourself getting married, taking care of kids, having sex or relating with a spouse in dreams, you're actually a victim. They can make life really miserable for their victims. They want attention and are extremely jealous. This is the basis of the problems they create in people's lives.

In most cases, they're contracted through covenants or contracts with water spirits. Individuals who patronise marine spirits for help often get into this trouble and pass it down from generation to generatuon. So, a baby could be a victim through generational inheritance.


To get loosed from these spirits, you need to break the covenant you.have with marine spirits (most times those covenants are made by ancestors), break the evil soul ties you have with them, divorce them in the name of Jesus and burn any dowries or tokens representing the marriage in the spirit realm. There's also the need for you to destroy all the demonic children you have with your spirit spouse. The matter is a very serious matter. Only Jesus can deliver the victims.

The white people call them Incubus and Succubus. The Incubus is a spirit husband while the succubus is a spirit wife. It's not an African thing as one ignoramus was saying up there.

Apart from marine connection, a pact with witches or occultism can also bring these spirits into one's life and lineage.

Please if you have the book Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson, kindly share with me. Thank you in advance.

CC:
Dtruthspeaker
Triplechoice

EXCELLENT submission sir.

THANK YOU.

FxMasterz:
I'm a pastor. I know what I'm saying.

Recently, not more than 3 weeks ago, I delivered a woman from yeye osun's grip.

As a pastor, I have varied spiritual experiences, and can talk on a wide range of topics involving the demonic.

Have you checked online for incubus and succubus? Or you're just bent on expressing your personal egp through unfounded theories? If you want to talk on these things, come to the field and face practical life realities. Theories are only sweet in the mouth of the speaker. In real life, what you wrote up there is balderdash. Get out of your confort zone and see it live and direct in practical terms. It's easy to just talk for the sake of talking. Anybody can do that.

Pastor it is exactly people like you (with LIFE experiences on this subject) that we need to learn from.
Please teach us more.

As a reward for your help, I have added the link to the book below.
Just copy THE WHOLE LINK and paste on the browser bar.

https://ia601501.us.archive.org/16/items/dealing-with-demons-an-introductory-guide-to-exorcism-and-discerning-evil-spirits/Dealing%20with%20Demons_%20An%20Introductory%20Guide%20to%20Exorcism%20and%20Discerning%20Evil%20Spirits.pdf

triplechoice:
If it cannot be explained ,how come you want contributions from people on something that cannot be explained or closer to be proven


They reason we are here now is because you misrepresented me when you accuse me of dismissing demons .

I have not talked about demons talkless of dismissing them.

We aren't discussing demons . Are we ?

African religion practitioners whose beliefs I have summarised for you at the begining ,don't accept that spirit spouses are demons . In fact, Some even regard them as deities that can provide spiritual protection, and hence the reason for the appeasement to seek their cooperation. Christians on the other hand , try to cast them out because they belief such a thing ,if it exist ,must be demons . This is the difference.

Incubus and sucubus is what the whites know of, discuss, and portray in movies.

It's not the same with the concept of spirit spouses in traditional African religion.

I just want to hear from you what christianity teaches about a spirit spouse.

So ,for a start what are the criteria for judging if one has a spirit husband or wife ?

You are making the case yourself.
Are there no white Christians?
Better yet, is an atheist a believer in spiritual things?
Of course NOT.
When I said "white people" I meant those among them that believe in spiritual things. Not the atheists.
And yes, they categorize all of such things as "evil spirits".
Incubus and sucubus are called DEMONS in their culture.
In any case, I think the pastor in the house is already doing a better job of explaining these things.
I really want this thread to be useful to people struggling with such things. I know they read these and are following us quietly.
"White people" have Gregorian calendar and other calendar that names the days of the week "Monday, Tuesdays..." etc.
Igbo people have their own traditional calendar that names days of the week "Eke, Orie, Afor ,.." etc.
Different peoples, different names for THE SAME THING: Days of the week.
You understand now?

onumadu:
Someone who really knows this topic on a deeper level should please teach it here.
Should they be ignored?

My main question is this: How many spirit husbands can a woman have, and how many spirit wives can a man have?


@Mods, If this makes front page, it would help a lot.
Thanks!

who is feeding you lies about the existence of the so called spirit husband or spirit wife myths or have you ever seen any such thing in the bible?

Please resist from lies and avoid such people who are feeding you with these lies for your own mental health.
If possible avoid the yeye church and look for a church that are more realistic in their teachings to attend.

onumadu:
There are many things not mentioned in the Bible, but they exist, or people believe in them still.
I guess I should add that this thread should be for people who believe in such things, or have experience with them.

certainly, you will always have people in this primitive Africa that we are living who believes in myths. But that doesn't mean that myths are real stories.
So anyone who tells you that he is gifted with descerning spirit. Such person will scam you your money, and you will be the cause

onumadu:
EXCELLENT submission sir.

THANK YOU.

You're welcome my brother. This world is deep. All those foolish atheists forming woke are in for a rude shock if they cross into eternity without Jesus.

onumadu:
Pastor it is exactly people like you (with LIFE experiences on this subject) that we need to learn from.
Please teach us more.

As a reward for your help, I have added the link to the book below.
Just copy THE WHOLE LINK and paste on the browser bar.

https://ia601501.us.archive.org/16/items/dealing-with-demons-an-introductory-guide-to-exorcism-and-discerning-evil-spirits/Dealing%20with%20Demons_%20An%20Introductory%20Guide%20to%20Exorcism%20and%20Discerning%20Evil%20Spirits.pdf

Thanks so much my brother. God bless you. I really appreciate the gift.

Spirit spouses are actually demons who help carry out the will of satan in the lives of their victims.

All demons are powerless the moment you involve Jesus in the matter. A cordial relationship is your stepping stone for victory over all demonic forces. I have had many occasions where demons literally beg me when the Lord Jesus begins to deal with them in their victims. Do not overrate them. They are useless powers like satan their master.

Okay @ Pastor FxMasterz I have two questions.

If you know the answer please share it with us. If you don't, it's okay not to answer it.
Thanks!

Question #1: How many spirit spouses can any one individual have? Is it monogamous "over there" or not?
E get why I dey ask this question. I will explain my reason later...

Question #2: What does it mean for a woman to dream about being pregnant for three days out of 7 days, and ending up giving birth in dream on the fourth day?
Does this have anything to do with spirit husband?
Again, I have follow up questions about this very woman's other experiences.

Thanks in advance!

onumadu:
Okay @ Pastor FxMasterz I have two questions.

If you know the answer please share it with us. If you don't, it's okay not to answer it.
Thanks!

Question #1: How many spirit spouses can any one individual have? Is it monogamous "over there" or not?
E get why I dey ask this question. I will explain my reason later...

Question #2: What does it mean for a woman to dream about being pregnant for three days out of 7 days, and ending up giving birth in dream on the fourth day?
Does this have anything to do with spirit husband?
Again, I have follow up questions about this very woman's other experiences.


Thanks in advance!

Question 1: In most cases, there's just one spouse taking different forms. The demon can appear in different forms to the woman. It's a very ugly thing taking different faces. One spirit spouse can be married to all members of a family. Polygamy rarely occurs. I have never met a polygamous case in my 25yrs of ministry.

Question 2: Yes, that's a spirit spouse at work. I many cases, while the woman is giving birth in the spirit realm, she might be made barren in real life. The spirit husband cannot afford to have his wife taking care of his earthly rival's children. The woman may be made barren or made to suffer unexplainable miscarriages. In few cases where the woman have children in life, there'll be many challenges for those children. They may sickly, never do wells or may even die untimely.

Spirit husbands don't have sex with their victims only in dreams. Some women experience physical sexual assault without seeing the personality that assaulted them. Mostly occurring at nights. Some would have the physical feelings of being penetrated after a sex dream. It happens to men as well but it is most common with women. Most women bottle it in. They are too shy and embarrassed to discuss it.

People who are actively or passively involved in the occult have a different case. Their spirit spouses would change as they climb higher in occult levels.

@ onimadu, these are my answers.

FxMasterz:
Question 1: In most cases, there's just one spouse taking different forms. The demon can appear in different forms to the woman. It's a very ugly thing taking different faces. One spirit spouse can be married to all members of a family. Polygamy rarely occurs. I have never met a polygamous case in my 25yrs of ministry.

Question 2: Yes, that's a spirit spouse at work. I many cases, while the woman is giving birth in the spirit realm, she might be made barren in real life. The spirit husband cannot afford to have his wife taking care of his earthly rival's children. The woman may be made barren or made to suffer unexplainable miscarriages. In few cases where the woman have children in life, there'll be many challenges for those children. They may sickly, never do wells or may even die untimely.

Spirit husbands don't have sex with their victims only in dreams. Some women experience physical sexual assault without seeing the personality that assaulted them. Mostly occurring at nights. Some would have the physical feelings of being penetrated after a sex dream. It happens to men as well but it is most common with women. Most women bottle it in. They are too shy and embarrassed to discuss it.

People who are actively or passively involved in the occult have a different case. Their spirit spouses would change as they climb higher in occult levels.

Chai

The woman in question struggled to have children for 8 years straight.

Doctors at first said it was PCOS and fibroid.

But when she later had kids, the PCOS somehow stopped, and the fibroid disappeared. Inexplicably.

She only had her first child after a serious deliverance session (with three days dry fasting).

She later had three kids, but she had 5 miscarriages straight before she had the last child.

The husband had dreams about her wedding some invisible man.

From your submission Pastor, this woman has a spirit husband, but what is confusing me about her case is that she was a member of a firebrand Christian ministry all those years. Deliverance was a constant phenomenon in that church.
How could she have something this serious for all those years?
Are these things ever kicked out?

Thanks for your next detailed answer Pastor.

FxMasterz:
I'm a pastor. I know what I'm saying.

Recently, not more than 3 weeks ago, I delivered a woman from yeye osun's grip.

As a pastor, I have varied spiritual experiences, and can talk on a wide range of topics involving the demonic.

Have you checked online for incubus and succubus? Or you're just bent on expressing your personal egp through unfounded theories? If you want to talk on these things, come to the field and face practical life realities. Theories are only sweet in the mouth of the speaker. In real life, what you wrote up there is balderdash. Get out of your confort zone and see it live and direct in practical terms. It's easy to just talk for the sake of talking. Anybody can do that.

You are pastor and so what?

Nothing you have said has made any sense . You 're just shiouting everywhere .

Please ignore me and face your business of deliverance to put food in your stomach.

onumadu:
You are making the case yourself.
Are there no white Christians?
Better yet, is an atheist a believer in spiritual things?
Of course NOT.
When I said "white people" I meant those among them that believe in spiritual things. Not the atheists.
And yes, they categorize all of such things as "evil spirits".
Incubus and sucubus are called DEMONS in their culture.
In any case, I think the pastor in the house is already doing a better job of explaining these things.
I really want this thread to be useful to people struggling with such things. I know they read these and are following us quietly.
"White people" have Gregorian calendar and other calendar that names the days of the week "Monday, Tuesdays..." etc.
Igbo people have their own traditional calendar that names days of the week "Eke, Orie, Afor ,.." etc.
Different peoples, different names for THE SAME THING: Days of the week.
You understand now?

Ok . Continue. I already see you only want to hear what you want to hear .

The People you think are struggling with it are those who have been deceived that the problems they face in life is due to spirit spouse.

I have not even mentioned half of what I know about the issue or the belief ,and how both traditional juju priest and some pastors and using it to scam people.

I will keep that to my self , and only share it with those who want to know the truth and be truly free.

All they do in your churches in the name of delivering people from it is just make believe. It doesn't eradicate any problem .

The only time anyone should worry is when they see physically, not in a dream , the face of the person coming to have sex with them. That one is not spirit spouse. It's something else.

triplechoice:
Ok . Continue. I already see you only want to hear what you want to hear .

The People you think are struggling with it are those who have been deceived that the problems they face in life is due to spirit spouse.

I have not even mentioned half of what I know about the issue or the belief ,and how both traditional juju priest and some pastors and using it to scam people.

I will keep that to my self , and only share it with those who want to know the truth and be truly free.


All they do in your churches in the name of delivering people from it is just make believe. It doesn't eradicate any problem .

The only time anyone should worry is when they see physically, not in a dream , the face of the person coming to have sex with them. That one is not spirit spouse. It's something else.

Oga, the thread is for KNOWLEDGE.

The only reason it was opened is because WE DON'T KNOW, and are inviting people to teach what they know.

That is exactly why I told you earlier that I don't have the power to "reject" your view or experience on the matter.

All you need to do is share what you know, and people (keep in mind that they are only interested in truth and solutions) would simply examine what you said, test it against their own life experiences, and determine for themselves whether your information is helpful to them. Simple.

We are all entitled to our opinions. There are no dictators here. lol

So, please share what you know. It may save someone's life.
Thank you.

triplechoice:
You are pastor and so what?

Nothing you have said has made any sense . You 're just shiouting everywhere .

Please ignore me and face your business of deliverance to put food in your stomach.

The moment I saw how you responded with insults to dtruthspeaker who wrote in your defence, I already knew you are not worth engaging. I should have completely ignored you from the beginning. We're talking about practical life scenarios and experiences, he's talking something else. Is such a person worth engaging? Only God can tell how you are in real life.

The Price You Must Pay For A New Dimension In Your Life.

Apostle Joshua Selman.

Listen And Remain Blessed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXlYKB9xp0E?si=tb-n61infyJ7Aq01

FxMasterz:
The moment I saw how you responded with insults to dtruthspeaker who wrote in your defence, I already knew you are not worth engaging. I should have completely ignored you from the beginning. We're talking about practical life scenarios and experiences, he's talking something else. Is such a person worth engaging? Only God can tell how you are in real life.

Something really must be wrong with you if you think dtruthspeaker was defending me with his ambivalence.

After the jaundiced comments you made about me, you now want to hide your craziness behind him to come out clean as a saint ?

You certainly need to be delivered of the demons pushing you .

Please face your fake deliverance business and forget about me .

I don't deceive people to feed myself and my family . I'm legitimately engaged

triplechoice:
Something really must be wrong with you if you think dtruthspeaker was defending me with his ambivalence.

After the jaundiced comments you made about me, you now want to hide your craziness behind him to come out clean as a saint ?

You certainly need to be delivered of the demons pushing you .

Please face your fake deliverance business and forget about me .

I don't deceive people to feed myself and my family . I'm legitimately engaged

Gud would have mercy on you and forgive you in Jesus name.