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| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:00pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:NO! It's inherited sin that makes humans God's enemies but out of His infinite mercy He decided to help us because we are innocent regarding INHERITED SIN: "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23 Means we can't rightly be called God's children or friends it's undeserved kindness (grave) that we have as He stretches His hands to help us out. So whether fetus in the womb o or old man we are ALL SINNERS! Psalms 51:5 Emusan:NO nah! His human life never generated from Adamic reproduction process so he never inherited sin! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:03pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
achorladey:One thing about liar is that they must lie one lie to cover up for the previous lies, so the lies continue. Imagine what his own organisation says about INNOCENT. That description can never be close to God's enemy. Yet they must defend lies. Let him come and give another excuse, maybe this time God never promised Babies anything is what we'll hear ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:05pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:Ọmọ there's nothing like disgrace in scriptural discussions it's either you agree or disagree. I have my own global family of peace loving worshipers so if you say i'm wrong that's your own opinion at least my global family doesn't think like you! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:05pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:When he used his own hands to type that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell. Jesus came back in 1914 to buy lies from a man who was called the seventh and last messenger of the gospel era. The messages of the last messenger are all lies that even the organisation Jesus bought cannot print any longer ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:10pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Madness and insanities peddling never cease MaxInDHouse et al., 2023..... He decided to help us because we are innocent regarding INHERITED SINThe last of it is yet to come. Your lies and manipulations have been knackered and bartered to submission that indeed they were lies and manipulations. Cc: Emusan ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:14pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:It's EVIL done by mean. but out of His infinite mercy He decided to help us because we are innocent regarding INHERITED SIN:Adamic NATURE made us prone to SIN. Children/Babies are INNOCENT which means they are not EVIL. Means we can't rightly be called God's children or friends it's undeserved kindness (grave) that we have as He stretches His hands to help us out.But this doesn't apply to Babies because they are not EVIL. So whether fetus in the womb o or old man we are ALL SINNERS! Psalms 51:5Which is about the NATURE INHERITED from Adam not about DOING EVIL. People who do evil are ENEMIES OF GOD. TRUE OR FALSE? NO nah!Good so which means INHERITED here means NATURE PRONE/EXPOSE US to SIN not that we started committing EVIL from WOMB. Check again what your organisation says about BEING INNOCENT! Now that Bible says Babies are INNOCENT. Who will you follow, Bible or your gods?
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| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:16pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Scripturally, Babies are INNOCENT. And innocent according to your organisation is PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c Do you agree or disagree? I have my own global family of peace loving worshipers so if you say i'm wrong that's your own opinion at least my global family doesn't think like you!Of course you don't need to tell me that and we're discussing the same poisonous food dished to you from that family. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:18pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
achorladey:I saw that part and I was just shaking my head. You lie so tey that you begin to contradict yourself within page of discussion. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:My Bible said: "ALL HAVE SINNED" Romans 3:23 So all are God's enemies that's why God killed both old and babies in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:22pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:Make e go chop im goose as served and dished out. We don cook am already for am. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:24pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Oga go chop your goose we don cook am already. |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:28pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:We are talking about God's enemies here not innocent people who are blameless. David killed Uriah and took the man's wife yet he is God's favourite! Why? Because both David, Uriah and the wife are all born sinners making them all God's enemies. But out of God's enemies David has developed some habits that draws God to him and show him mercy. So if you're talking about innocent, blameless or pure that doesn't change the fact that all are sinners and thus were born as God's enemies! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:29pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:But you love to lash and flog people all over nairaland and equally torment them over scriptural discussion ![]() Your GODS will help you. So pe Amin! |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:30pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:The Bible says specifically that BABIES ARE INNOCENT. Jesus admonished His disciples to BE LIKE BABIES. Your organisation described INNOCENT as being PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c So all are God's enemiesAn INNOCENT PERSON can't be God's Enemy. Even in human court, INNOCENCE never consider Gov enemies. that's why God killed both old and babies in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!No! He knows taking cares of Babies demand ALOT. Even human knows this unless people like you. |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:32pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:That's why I said an innocent person can't be GOD'S ENEMY. Are you innocent NOW? David killed Uriah and took the man's wife yet he is God's favourite!Irrelevant! Stop telling stories. So if you're talking about innocent, blameless or pure that doesn't change the fact that all are sinners and thus were born as God's enemies!Bible says Babies are INNOCENT not me. So Babies are not God's enemies. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:36pm On Sep 13, 2023*. Modified: 4:00pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: ![]() Because both David, Uriah and the wife are all born sinners making them all God's enemies.We know these are babies military intelligence officer ![]() But out of God's enemies David has developed some habits that draws God to him and show him mercy.Uriah and the wife are God's enemies who in Uriah's case had developed bad habits going to war on behalf of Israel as commanded by God and that of Bathsheba for bathsebathing outside to seduce King David who had some habits that draws him close to God. These are the nonsense you sell we expose as fraud and refuse to buy or sell on your behalf paapaa. |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 3:41pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:He needs to peddle the stories to cover the lies but the stories sef na serious lies and manipulations ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:52pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
achorladey:And there was a caught ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:This is human thought not the way God thinks! Isaiah 55:8-9 Innocence according to the Bible means one who is guiltless regarding atrocities committed by humans but a sinner means someone who has inherited blemish from Adam. So it's two different things. All humans whether old or babies are sinners {Romans 3:23} so all of us must taste death which is upon all the enemies of God {Romans 5:12} friends of God supposed not to die that's why God keeps the names of some among dead humans in His memory book. People like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job and many others whose names were written in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-34 as those to be remembered for making themselves God's friends out of all the enemies of God. But as for the rest whether old or young or babies they are still God's enemies until they're able to prove themselves that's why God instructed the Israelites to give their children the opportunity to prove themselves by teaching them God's laws {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} when a child shows love for God's laws the child is building a relationship with God but when a child hasn't done that he or she remains God's enemies that's why such ones are killed in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and so on. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:07pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:This is where you missed it! I'm not INNOCENT just like Moses, David, Peter and many others aren't innocent but we are trying to build a relationship with God. So even though we fall into wrongdoing several times due to imperfection we are repentant and God will lift us up because we have surrendered to do His will. Proverbs 24:16 Emusan:There you go again! You asked questions but you don't want to get the explanation from the heart of the one you are asking you just want to push your opinion and expect us to agree. Ọmọ it's not done like that! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:05pm On Sep 13, 2023*. Modified: 6:30am On Sep 14, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: This is human thought not the way God thinks! Isaiah 55:8-9After over 40 pages on this thread he came back to Isaiah 55:8 9 ![]() For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Insanities and madness peddling can't end in the nearest future. Cornelboy come and see your brother in Jehovah ![]() Your lies and manipulations will be the criteria used to show how God thinks and God's way of doing things ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:07pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:When caught in their lies and folly, they seek to save face. Awon babies are enemies of God peddling peddler ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:06pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So what your organisation says is human thought. That's wonderful. Innocence according to the Bible means one who is guiltless regarding atrocities committed by humansSo you agree that Babies are INNOCENT, right? but a sinner means someone who has inherited blemish from Adam.Can you support the @bold with Bible verse? So it's two different things.So you agree that Babies are INNOCENT. All humans whether old or babies are sinners {Romans 3:23} so all of us must taste death which is upon all the enemies of God {Romans 5:12}I've explained this part. So don't take us back. friends of God supposed not to die that's why God keeps the names of some among dead humans in His memory book. People like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job and many others whose names were written in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-34 as those to be remembered for making themselves God's friends out of all the enemies of God. But as for the rest whether old or young or babies they are still God's enemies until they're able to prove themselves that's why God instructed the Israelites to give their children the opportunity to prove themselves by teaching them God's laws {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} when a child shows love for God's laws the child is building a relationship with God but when a child hasn't done that he or she remains God's enemies that's why such ones are killed in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and so on.Story story ![]() Babies are INNOCENT according to the Bible. True or false? |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:11pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So you're not INNOCENT yet you disagree with the scripture that DECLARED BABIES AS INNOCENT. There you go again!My question is simple Yes or No! You know if you're trying to peddle your lies and twisting by those long meaningless story. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 7:22pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:The moment anybody step into this world, he's a sinner and God's enemy. We automatically inherited that from Adam. You can keep crying all you want ![]() Babies can't think nor have the ability to choose between right and wrong. They don't have memory, they are probably blank. They don't have the ability to plan and carry out evil. That's why Paul taught that they should be innocent like babies who can't devise evil. If Jesus comes back today, the wicked along with their babies would be destroyed again. |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 7:34pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
cornelboy:You want to start another round of contradictions after babies are completely innocent. The goose don dey cooked already ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:41pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
cornelboy:Does this include Jesus? We automatically inherited that from Adam.No! We only INHERITED A NATURE that is PRONE to SIN. You can keep crying all you wantDon't take it personal, I know you people cry behind when you see people challenging your gods in Warwick. Babies can't think nor have the ability to choose between right and wrong. They don't have memory, they are probably blank. They don't have the ability to plan and carry out evil. That's why Paul taught that they should be innocent like babies who can't devise evil.Now you know this yet you go against scripture to agree that Babies are God's enemies. If Jesus comes back today, the wicked along with their babies would be destroyed again.I thought Jesus had come, which Jesus coming again? So JWs babies who are also God's enemies won't be destroyed, we all know where this twisting, peddling and manipulation of the scripture is heading to thou ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 7:43pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
achorladey:They have no shame! I don't know how someone will agree that Babies are COMPLETELY INNOCENT yet still claiming they are God's enemies. The most deluded among them even wanted to change the meaning of INNOCENT not until his lie was bursted with his own organisation definition. ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 8:00pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:He wants to start marketing God's ways and thought based on lies and manipulations ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 8:19pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent! Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date? |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:23pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:Not only babies but those who don't partake in doing what is evil but that's not what saves rather it's partaking in the doing of God's will. So innocence doesn't save anyone from death when God's wrath is coming o rather it's doing God's will that saves. That's why babies aren't God's friends because even though they don't partake in doing evil they have not chosen to do God's will either! ![]() |
| Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29pm On Sep 13, 2023 |
Emusan:Honest hearted and sincere individuals needs to know why God destroyed innocent babies in Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho, Amalek and Jerusalem in 607 BCE. So after telling you i'm not innocent then you need to know why God still love and save those who aren't innocent like David! ![]() |
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