jceesquare:

Wetin you read?
If you daily your luxury car like the normal economy car, your repair bills go skyrocket na.

A Lexus Rx, Es, GS, IS, Acura MDX, RDX, TL, TLX, Mercedes C, E, ML/GLE series are luxury brands and they're durable and reliable. Pretty reliable and durable models from their respective marques. Heck, I know quite a number of Nigerians using these cars as a daily driven cars with none other as alternative. Guess what? They're doing pretty well and holding up just fine.

kingreign:

A Lexus Rx, Es, GS, IS, Acura MDX, RDX, TL, TLX, Mercedes C, E, ML/GLE series are luxury brands and they're durable and reliable. Pretty reliable and durable models from their respective marques. Heck, I know quite a number of Nigerians using these cars as a daily driven cars with none other as alternative. Guess what? They're doing pretty well and holding up just fine.

The repair bills won't be same as a regular commuter car because when those luxury features starts breaking down (which they sometimes do earlier than expected) you'll understand that you shouldn't put luxury and reliability in the same context.
For the record, a Corolla/Civic would be tagged more reliable than a Mercedes C class or BMW 3 series.
A Camry/Accord would outlive and be cheaper to maintain with fewer parts breaking down than a Mercedes E class.
Just the same way the Avalon would be on the road longer than an S class for example.
Those cars are somewhat categorized in similar or closer class range.
The fact that it starts and drive don't mean they're in tip top shape.
When you hookup an advanced scanner and run a full system scan on those luxury vehicle, you'll be shocked at the number of faults you'll pull out that the owners have turned a blind eyes to.

jceesquare:

The repair bills won't be same as a regular commuter car because when those luxury features starts breaking down (which they sometimes do earlier than expected) you'll understand that you shouldn't put luxury and reliability in the same context.
For the record, a Corolla/Civic would be tagged more reliable than a Mercedes C class or BMW 3 series.
A Camry/Accord would outlive and be cheaper to maintain with fewer parts breaking down than a Mercedes E class.
Just the same way the Avalon would be on the road longer than an S class for example.
Those cars are somewhat categorized in similar or closer class range.
The fact that it starts and drive don't mean they're in tip top shape.
When you hookup an advanced scanner and run a full system scan on those luxury vehicle, you'll be shocked at the number of faults you'll pull out that the owners have turned a blind eyes to.

I repair cars and manage fleets and from experience, I have seen corolla and civic as the most abused vehicles on our roads. I have quite a number of high end cars that have zero error on their computers.

kingreign:


I repair cars and manage fleets and from experience, I have seen corolla and civic as the most abused vehicles on our roads. I have quite a number of high end cars that have zero error on their computers.

I also repair cars too. Put those luxury brands to go through same abuse that a Corolla would go through and come out unfazed then give your findings.
I still maintain that when you run a full system scan on high-end luxury cars, 9 out of 10 of them will throw several codes.
Like I said, the fact that it starts and drive don't mean they're in perfect shape. Hope you know most body codes won't trigger a check light sa.

Got nothing to contribute, just to say I really appreciate both of you making your points without insults

jceesquare:

I also repair cars too. Put those luxury brands to go through same abuse that a Corolla would go through and come out unfazed then give your findings.
I still maintain that when you run a full system scan on high-end luxury cars, 9 out of 10 of them will throw several codes.
Like I said, the fact that it starts and drive don't mean they're in perfect shape. Hope you know most body codes won't trigger a check light sa.

Aakanbi:

Got nothing to contribute, just to say I really appreciate both of you making your points without insults

Kingreign is a respected figure in car talk.
Besides nobody knows it all especially in this industry where we learn everyday

henrymor:
Good afternoon guys,

Please, which SUV or sedan will you suggest for someone with a budget between 6-8m?

Note: please, I want reliable Toyota, Hyundai, or Lexus vehicles.

Thanks

Not on your list but MDX is not a bad choice for your budget

jceesquare:

The repair bills won't be same as a regular commuter car because when those luxury features starts breaking down (which they sometimes do earlier than expected) you'll understand that you shouldn't put luxury and reliability in the same context.
For the record, a Corolla/Civic would be tagged more reliable than a Mercedes C class or BMW 3 series.
A Camry/Accord would outlive and be cheaper to maintain with fewer parts breaking down than a Mercedes E class.
Just the same way the Avalon would be on the road longer than an S class for example.
Those cars are somewhat categorized in similar or closer class range.
The fact that it starts and drive don't mean they're in tip top shape.
When you hookup an advanced scanner and run a full system scan on those luxury vehicle, you'll be shocked at the number of faults you'll pull out that the owners have turned a blind eyes to.

I drive a RDX daily, since over 2 years I have not done anything significant on it apart from oil change and of recent gear oil change. I probably will have done a couple of stuff in a Toyota equivalent. Funny enough, RDX parts ain't expensive as well. Performance is a priority for me and I didn't get that in my former RAV4 for instance which is equivalent of an RDX

ojeysky:


I drive a RDX daily, since over 2 years I have not done anything significant on it apart from oil change and of recent gear oil change. I probably will have done a couple of stuff in a Toyota equivalent. Funny enough, RDX parts ain't expensive as well. Performance is a priority for me and I didn't get that in my former RAV4 for instance which is equivalent of an RDX

Like I said, the fact that it runs and drive with no CEL does not mean it's in factory tip top shape.
Run a full system scan with an high-end scanner and see if there are codes on it or not.
9 out of 10 luxury cars in Nigeria have codes that are not drivetrain related and owners just simply turn blind eyes to.
Nobody is saying you can't daily a luxury brand. My argument is, if you choose to address every code on it and keep the car running as designed, you'll spend more in repair bills when compared with regular economic car.

jceesquare:

Like I said, the fact that it runs and drive with no CEL does not mean it's in factory tip top shape.
Run a full system scan with an high-end scanner and see if there are codes on it or not.
9 out of 10 luxury cars in Nigeria have codes that are not drivetrain related and owners just simply turn blind eyes to.
Nobody is saying you can't daily a luxury brand. My argument is, if you choose to address every code on it and keep the car running as designed, you'll spend more in repair bills when compared with regular economic car.

Bros that it's luxury does not mean it MUST have errors...mine has none and I do use bluedriver scanner which is relatively advanced.

That said, if the likes of the corollas have the similar sensors that exists in luxury equivalent, they may throw so much errors as well, because it's not showing errors does not mean the corolla is in a healthy state. There are more unhealthy corolla around than unhealthy luxury equivalent

ojeysky:


Bros that it's luxury does not mean it MUST have errors...mine has none and I do use bluedriver scanner which is relatively advanced.

That said, if the likes of the corollas have the similar sensors that exists in luxury equivalent, they may throw so much errors as well, because it's not showing errors does not mean the corolla is in a healthy state. There are more unhealthy corolla around than unhealthy luxury equivalent

Point out where I said all luxury cars must have errors. My argument is that most (Nigerian used cars and emphasis on 9 out of 10) have non drivetrain related codes that owners tend to overlook since it does not pose driveability concerns and does not trigger a CEL.
These argument started when I said it's not fair mixing luxury and reliability together.
It's common knowledge in the automotive world that luxury cars (from when accountants and not engineers started calling the shot) have higher maintenance bill with more visits to the shops than regular economy car.
As an Acura owner, you would agree with me that it will cost you more running your RDX when compared to a CRV that is from same brand. So it has nothing to do with brand. Those extra luxury features will cost you more in repair bills.

jceesquare:

Point out where I said all luxury cars must have errors. My argument is that most (Nigerian used cars and emphasis on 9 out of 10) have non drivetrain related codes that owners tend to overlook since it does not pose driveability concerns and does not trigger a CEL.
These argument started when I said it's not fair mixing luxury and reliability together.
It's common knowledge in the automotive world that luxury cars (from when accountants and not engineers started calling the shot) have higher maintenance bill with more visits to the shops than regular economy car.
As an Acura owner, you would agree with me that it will cost you more running your RDX when compared to a CRV that is from same brand. So it has nothing to do with brand. Those extra luxury features will cost you more in repair bills.

Show me where I used the word all luxury in my statement as well o. Extra luxury feature will cost more if/when it has issues yes but that's normal stuff. Comparing non luxury to luxury cars is unnecessary activity

ojeysky:


Show me where I used the word all luxury in my statement as well o. Extra luxury feature will cost more if/when it has issues yes but that's normal stuff. Comparing non luxury to luxury cars is unnecessary activity

Ok

Thank you for your suggestion. But how reliable is an Acura MDX?

ojeysky:


Not on your list but MDX is not a bad choice for your budget

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henrymor:
Thank you for your suggestion. But how reliable is an Acura MDX?

It's the cheaper alternative to Toyota highlander, reliability is good.

ojeysky:


It's the cheaper alternative to Toyota highlander, reliability is good.

I quite disagree on the bolded.

kingreign:


I quite disagree on the bolded.

Depends on how you see it. A 2010 to 2012 MDX will sell for 7.5 to 9m. While a highlander of same year will sell for from 10m above.
Maintenance cost is not so far apart, fuel consumption is slightly more with MDX than highlander but MDX performance is much higher than that of highlander.... It's all about choice sha.

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Good morning NL engineers in the house,
Please I what could be the problem with my Toyota Corolla Obama, it keeps misfiring and I just changed about two coils and fuel pump yet it still the same.

Good morning sir.pls what's the meaning of the code P1888 Honda city 2007. My gear is not selecting well.
Your advice and recommendations. Thanks

Chianya:
Good morning NL engineers in the house,
Please I what could be the problem with my Toyota Corolla Obama, it keeps misfiring and I just changed about two coils and fuel pump yet it still the same.

Did you scan the car?

jceesquare:

Kingreign is a respected figure in car talk.
Besides nobody knows it all especially in this industry where we learn everyday

I love you and I also love kingreign, both of you are super guru

Please what can cause a rx330 to over heating while fan is working and there is no shortage of water in the radiator

Please gurus in the house, which of this two cars will u recommend for daily drive to office and Uber on weekends. Camry 11 or Accord 13? Or any other brand. Thanks

IAMU:
Please what can cause a rx330 to over heating while fan is working and there is no shortage of water in the radiator

Faulty thermostat will get stocked closed causing overheating. Have the thermostat checked

How do I find engine number of 2008 Hinda Accord?

And what is the format of the engine number?

Thanks

Please has anyone information on the CMRIS (Central Motor Registry Information System) newly introduced by the Nigerian Police. Is it one off registration or renewable every year. I just learnt about it today when policemen at a check point asked me to produce it after going through my papers and all were intact. They declined explanation how it works or when it was introduced.