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SIRTee15:
Which God tells u to obey him by bowing down to stone?
Definitely not God of the bible. He forbids us from bowing down to stones no matter how sacred it is.

This is what God Almighty says about worshipping stones.


‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
Lev 26.1

Any religion that tells u to bow down to a black stone is not from God.
A god that needs u to bow down to a black stone for whatever reason is not the God of the bible- YAHWEH.

This clearly proves one thing...Allah is not God Almighty of the bible.

What u guys do to kabba in Mecca is pure idolatry.

SIRTee15:
Which God tells u to obey him by bowing down to stone?
Definitely not God of the bible. He forbids us from bowing down to stones no matter how sacred it is.

This is what God Almighty says about worshipping stones.


‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
Lev 26.1

Any religion that tells u to bow down to a black stone is not from God.
A god that needs u to bow down to a black stone for whatever reason is not the God of the bible- YAHWEH.

This clearly proves one thing...Allah is not God Almighty of the bible.

What u guys do to kabba in Mecca is pure idolatry.

AntiChristian:
Which verse have you seen that says Muslims bow to stones in worship like the Catholics does to the graven images of Jesus and Mary?

No one worships stone in Islam!

TenQ:
But you drink the piss of Mohammed even though its not in the Qur'an : don't you!?

You all pray bowing down facing the Kaaba which contains the black stone: is Allah in the Kaaba?

If Allah is not in the Kaaba, then what are you bowing down to?
The Cube?
The Yemeni corner?
The black stone?

AntiChristian:
Which piss did the holy spirit grant you?

AntiChristian:
Did Jesus face heaven when he bowed down to his God?

He always like to visit the mountains to worship, was he bowing to the mountain stones?

AntiChristian:
We bow to Allah as He wants us to!

AntiChristian:
Which verse have you seen that says Muslims bow to stones in worship like the Catholics does to the graven images of Jesus and Mary?

No one worships stone in Islam!

TenQ:
You are always giving me inspirations: I will inform you on what your religion teach about this later!
LOL!!


Jesus bowed down facing heaven!?
Was he bowing down on his back?
I need some education please!

You tell me if Jesus was bowing down to the mountain : educate me please on how Jesus claimed a mountain to bow to the mountain!



Is Allah in the Kaaba?

AntiChristian:
1. How do Muslims serve the devil?
2. How does Islam and Satan agree on Same thing about Jesus?

MightySparrow:
Antichristian is a wrong scholar. The more he wants to show his knowledge of the Bible, he shows stupidity..
The Bible is not like the amoebic Quran. The Quran itself, he doesn't understand not being an Arab..

Just deal with him according to his stupidity of his Lielam.

TenQ:
He seems he had fled after he read my last posts to him. As usual, he has no answers to direct questions.

The book Authored by Allah himself should be clear, concise, free of errors or contradictions: unfortunately,, not the Qur'an. It has the signature of an uneducated 16th century Arabian man creating his own religion by amalgamating many existing religions

Ohyoudidnt:
And so We have made you ˹believers˺ an upright community so that you may be witnesses over humanity and that the Messenger may be a witness over you. We assigned your former direction of prayer only to distinguish those who would remain faithful to the Messenger from those who would lose faith. It was certainly a difficult test except for those ˹rightly˺ guided by Allah. And Allah would never discount your ˹previous acts of˺ faith. Surely Allah is Ever Gracious and Most Merciful to humanity.(Q2:143)

We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens; now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque; wherever ye are turn your faces in that direction. The people of the book know well that that is the truth from their Lord nor is Allah unmindful of what they do. (Q2:144)

All muslims facing the Ka'bah is a symbol of unity, and the Ka'bah and what is around it is blessed

Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.(Q2:177)

Ohyoudidnt:
Mark 12: 29 The most important one answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.

This is in answer to the statement Mark 12:28
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

Where did Jesus specifically say the one lord comprises of 3 equal parts or 3 parts?

SIRTee15:
So it was Allah that told u to bow before a stone. Did he also tell Muslims to kiss the stone?

SIRTee15:
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

SIRTee15:
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Ohyoudidnt:
You do not see that Righteousness is not turning to face because of your obsession with bowing. Allah is sufficient for muslims.

There are three parts of writing in your Bible as you have previously stated. The Quran is all revelation but you wouldn't understand. Muslims bow in reverence to Allah alone and there are some muslims that don't geniculate in greeting as this is viewed to be reserved for Allah alone.

Ohyoudidnt:
Does this then not contradict his saying the most important one?

Ohyoudidnt:
Pretty strange how the statements credited to Jesus don't seem to exactly agree.
Does John 5:30 not say: I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

SIRTee15:
So what is the will of the Father that Jesus has come to fulfill.

John 6
38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Now the question do u believe in the will of the Father Jesus has come to fulfill.

AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't meet Paul till he left the earth!

Paul met Satan and changed Christianity to Paulinity which is what you all practice today.

mbaise1000:
We Christians believe that our Jesus met Paul and told him what he is going to do and what he is going to go through because of that message, we are not worried because of what antichrist and his father satan thinks, what you and your prophet ays doesn't change the reality, I will not insult you because of what you said about my own prophet Jesus and his apostle Paul, Jesus is alive and will answer you if He WANTS, but will you also not insult and attack or want to murder because I will tell you here that whatever it is that your prophet claimed visited him was not from the TRUE God? That he was hallucinating Like his wife SAID? That he is a murderer? A war monger who waged wars and murdered people? Pillaged their properties, shared same between himself and his goons?
BTW, what I said here wouldn't change anything if they are lies, which is possible, can you allow him your prophet or his allah to fight me instead of you trying to fight for them?
Will you also agree that someone follow a person who clearly told him that he doesn't know where he is leading him to is not qualified to tell others that they are on the wrong path?

AntiChristian:
I no dey fight you!
Jesus appointed 12 disciples!
One betrayed him.

Paul later appointed himself with Satan disguised as bright light Jesus!

mbaise1000:
You are entitled to your islamic belief, but it doesn't change the reality, Paul is forever more credible than mohamad, can you give me any prove that whatever it is that visited mohamad as he claimed is from the TRUE God?
Paul had witnesses and corroborations about his story and the events, does mohamad has anything to prove any of his stories?
A muslim who is following mohamad blindly is not qualified to tell us who Paul is

AntiChristian:
1. Paul didn't meet Jesus.
2. Paul claimed he met a bright light which called itself Jesus.
3. Paul claimed in 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light"
4. Paul wrote almost half of the new testament even more than the 11 disciples combined!

If you want to learn about Islam and Muhammad, go to Islamic section.

AntiChristian:
1. Paul didn't meet Jesus.
2. Paul claimed he met a bright light which called itself Jesus.
3. Paul claimed in 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light"
4. Paul wrote almost half of the new testament even more than the 11 disciples combined!

If you want to learn about Islam and Muhammad, go to Islamic section.

SIRTee15:
I definitely don't have a problem with Muslims bowing down in front of a stone or kissing a stone during worship.
It only proves that the God of the bible is not Allah.

Yahweh clearly forbid bowing down to a stone under any guise whatsoever. He doesn't share his glory to no one not to talk of a stone.

Ohyoudidnt:
Muslims bow down and prostrate in their prayers to almighty Allah and not to the Ka’bah or to the Black Stone. Worship cannot be devoted to anyone else except to Allah Almighty.

Allah Says that the mosques or places of worship are for Allah, so do not invoke with Allah anyone. [Quran 72:18]

The meaning includes two matters:

- The first is that the mosques are the Houses of Allah Almighty, so do not worship anyone else besides Him.

- The second is that the members of the body upon which one prostrates, such as the feet, the knees, the hands, and the forehead, are also the property of Allah Almighty, so do not prostrate with them to anyone other than Allah.

Ohyoudidnt:
Muslims bow down and prostrate in their prayers to almighty Allah and not to the Ka’bah or to the Black Stone. Worship cannot be devoted to anyone else except to Allah Almighty.

Allah Says that the mosques or places of worship are for Allah, so do not invoke with Allah anyone. [Quran 72:18]

The meaning includes two matters:

- The first is that the mosques are the Houses of Allah Almighty, so do not worship anyone else besides Him.

- The second is that the members of the body upon which one prostrates, such as the feet, the knees, the hands, and the forehead, are also the property of Allah Almighty, so do not prostrate with them to anyone other than Allah.